MONDAY, JANUARY 28, 2019 3:00 P.M.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME
TO ORDER.
IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF
SILENCE.
(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)
VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE.
(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND
MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)
A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE
JOURNAL OF SUNDAY, JANUARY 27TH.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO
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DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF SUNDAY, JANUARY
27TH AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO
ORDERED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, AS WE HAVE
SINCE THE BEGINNING OF SESSION, I WANT TO START US OFF WITH A QUOTE. I
HOPE IT'S ENLIGHTENING AND MOTIVATING AND ENCOURAGING US. IT'S THE
WORDS OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA. IT SAYS, "I BELIEVE OUR
RIGHTEOUS ANGER CAN BE TRANSFORMED INTO MORE JUSTICE AND MORE PEACE."
AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S FROM PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.
MR. SPEAKER, WE HAVE OUR MAIN CALENDAR BEFORE US.
AFTER INTRODUCTIONS AND ANY HOUSEKEEPING, WE WILL BE TAKING JUST A
BRIEF RESOURCE SO THAT WE MAY HAVE A FEW MORE COMMITTEE MEETINGS
WHICH INCLUDE CODES, REAL PROPERTY TAXATION, WAYS AND MEANS AND
RULES. THE ELECTION LAW COMMITTEE IS ALREADY IN AND HOPEFULLY
THEY'LL BE DONE SOON AND WE'LL BE CALLING THE VERY NEXT COMMITTEE.
THESE COMMITTEES WILL PRODUCE AN A-CALENDAR, MR. SPEAKER. IT WILL
BE OUR PRINCIPAL FOR TODAY TO TAKE UP ALL THE BILLS ON THE A-CALENDAR,
INCLUDING RULES REPORT NO. 20, WHICH IS THE CHILD VICTIMS ACT BY
MEMBER LINDA ROSENTHAL. TODAY WE WILL ALSO CALL TO -- THE FOLLOWING
COMMITTEES TO MEET OFF THE FLOOR: CORRECTIONS AND JUDICIARY. FOR
MAJORITY MEMBERS -- FOR OUR MAJORITY MEMBERS, I SHOULD SAY, YOU
SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE AFTER THE
CONCLUSION OF SESSION TODAY. AND AS ALWAYS, MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL
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CONSULT WITH THE MINORITY TO SEE IF THEY HAVE CONFERENCE, AS WELL.
THAT'S THE GENERAL OUTLINE, MR. SPEAKER. IF THERE ARE
ANY HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, WE WILL HEAR THEM
NOW. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: NO HOUSEKEEPING,
BUT INTRODUCTIONS.
MS. ROZIC FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MS. ROZIC: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND MADAM
MAJORITY LEADER. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TODAY SOME YOUTH ADVOCATES
FROM THE CHINESE AMERICAN PLANNING COUNCIL. THEY'RE IN THE BACK, IF
THEY CAN STAND UP. CPC IS THE NATION'S LARGEST ASIAN-AMERICAN SOCIAL
SERVICE ORGANIZATION AND STRIVES TO BE THE PREMIERE SOCIAL SERVICE AND
LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION ACROSS THE CITY. IT SERVES
THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS EACH DAY THROUGH THEIR 50
PROGRAMS, 33 LOCATIONS ALL OVER NEW YORK CITY, AND THREE MASSIVE
COMMUNITY CENTERS, ONE OF WHICH IS IN FLUSHING, QUEENS. THEY DO
EVERYTHING FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION, SCHOOL-AGED CARE,
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. THEY WORK WITH THE DEVELOPMENTALLY
DISABLED AND THEY ALSO HAVE AMAZING SENIOR SERVICES.
TODAY IS CPC'S FIRST-EVER NEW YORK STATE ADVOCACY
DAY AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THEIR FEARLESS LEADER, WAYNE
HO, THEIR PRESIDENT AND CEO. AND SO, ON BEHALF OF - THERE ARE A LOT OF
US - MEMBERS ABBATE, BRAUNSTEIN, EPSTEIN, ORTIZ, KIM AND NIOU, I'D
REALLY LOVE IF YOU COULD EXTEND THE CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR TO THEIR
STAFF, COMMUNITY MEMBERS (INAUDIBLE) -- THE ISSUES. THANK YOU.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. ROZIC, MR. ABBATE, MR. BRAUNSTEIN, MR. EPSTEIN, MR. [SIC]
NIOU, MR. KIM, MR. ORTIZ, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE
WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY ON YOUR FIRST
LOBBY DAY. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, OUR SINCERE
THANKS ON THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO PROTECT AND TAKE CARE OF THE
COMMUNITIES THAT YOU REPRESENT. WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS
WELCOME HERE. PLEASE COME BACK AND WE WILL LOOK FOR YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME TO OUR CHAMBERS JUDGE MARKEY
AND HIS WIFE, OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, MARGE MARKEY. MR. SPEAKER, THEY
ARE A DELIGHTFUL COUPLE WHO HAVE SERVED THE PUBLIC FOR MANY, MANY
YEARS AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THEM.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, MARGE, YOU
GUYS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR COMING
HERE. AS A FORMER MEMBER AND FAMILY, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE PRIVILEGES
OF THE FLOOR. PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT SO LONG WHEN YOU COME BACK TO VISIT
US AGAIN. WE'RE SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU. WE HOPE YOU'RE ENJOYING
RETIREMENT AS BEST AS YOU CAN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. CUSICK.
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MR. CUSICK: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE FOR
THE PURPOSE OF AN INTRODUCTION. MR. SPEAKER, I KNOW WE HAVE MANY
SPORTS FANS HERE IN THE CHAMBER AND IN OUR RESPECTIVE CONFERENCES AND
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BASEBALL FANS, I'M SURE OVER THE SUMMER WATCHED
THE LITTLE LEAGUE WORLD SERIES. WELL TODAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE
ARE JOINED BY THE MID-ISLAND LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL LEAGUE FROM MY
DISTRICT WHO WERE THE DISTRICT CHAMPIONS, THE STATE CHAMPIONS AND
THE MID-ATLANTIC CHAMPIONS, AND REPRESENTED NEW YORK IN THE LITTLE
LEAGUE WORLD SERIES IN PENNSYLVANIA THIS SUMMER. THEY ARE A GREAT
TEAM, A GREAT BUNCH OF KIDS AND THEY REALLY REPRESENTED NEW YORK IN A
PROUD WAY. I WAS PROUD OF THEM, MANY OF THE COLLEAGUES HERE WOULD
CALL AND SAY HOW PROUD THEY WERE OF THE KIDS FROM STATEN ISLAND, HOW
THEY REPRESENTED THIS GREAT STATE.
DURING THE REGIONAL PLAY, THEY WENT UNDEFEATED. THEY
WERE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH DURING THE TOURNAMENT PROCESS AND IN
WILLIAMSPORT. AND, MR. SPEAKER, THEY WERE LED BY GREAT COACHES THAT
ARE PILLARS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND, TODAY, THEY ARE HERE WITH THE HEAD
COACH, JOE CALABRESE, WHO WAS A GREAT ROLE MODEL FOR THE KIDS,
PARTICULARLY DURING THE TOURNAMENT ON ESPN.
MR. SPEAKER, WE ARE JOINED BY, AS I SAID, COACH
CALABRESE. WE ARE JOINED BY THE PLAYERS: DEREK MENDEZ, THOMAS
PUGLISI, FRANK SCERRA, GREGORY BRUNO, CHRIS BEDFORD, ROBERT
CAVALIERI, JOE CALABRESE, LOGAN CASTELLANO, CHRIS CANCEL AND JAYSON
HANNAH. AND WE ARE JOINED BY SOME OF THE PARENTS WHO CAME AND
MADE THE TRIP TODAY AND THEY WERE THERE DURING THE TRIP TO
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WILLIAMSPORT.
MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU COULD WELCOME THESE
DISTINGUISHED GROUP OF LITTLE LEAGUE CHAMPIONS TO THE FLOOR ON BEHALF
OF MYSELF AND THE STATEN ISLAND DELEGATION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. CUSICK, THE STATEN ISLAND DELEGATION, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE
MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE EXTRAORDINARY ATHLETES HERE TO THE NEW
YORK CITY -- NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. WE WANT TO THANK COACHES AND PARENTS FOR THE
GUIDANCE THAT YOU PROVIDED THEM. WE HOPE YOU YOUNG MEN WILL GO ON
TO GREATER HEIGHTS IN BASEBALL AND IN LIFE. WE'RE SURE THIS HAS BEEN A
GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR YOU. PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME
HERE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. NOLAN FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MS. NOLAN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER AND MY
COLLEAGUES. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT WHEN FAMILY COME AND VISIT YOU HERE IN
THE CAPITOL, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL KNOW HOW SOMETIMES IT CAN BE A
LONELY AND EVEN ISOLATING PLACE; WE COME UP AND WE'RE SEPARATED. SO,
I'M SO HAPPY THAT MY COUSIN, BOB, IS HERE TODAY. MANY OF YOU KNOW
HIM FROM HIS LONG CAREER OF ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN BRONX COMMUNITY
LIFE, BUT HE ALSO SERVES ALL OF OUR CITY AS A MEMBER OF THE HEALTH AND
HOSPITAL ADVISORY BOARD WHICH I KNOW YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND OUR
WORK AT ELMHURST HOSPITAL, CARE A GREAT DEAL ABOUT. AND BOB HAS
GIVEN SO MUCH SERVICE TO THE CITY OF NEW YORK, BUT IN HIS RETIREMENT
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NOW ON THAT ADVISORY BOARD PUTS IN MANY, MANY HOURS. SO, HE'S HERE
TODAY WITH HIS FELLOW HIBERNIANS, I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE
INTRODUCED AS A GROUP LATER, BUT WE'RE PARTICULARLY THRILLED TO HAVE HIM
HERE. SO, IF YOU COULD EXTEND GREETINGS TO ROBERT NOLAN.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. NOLAN, THE SPEAKER, MR. ORTIZ, MR. BENEDETTO, MYSELF, WE
WELCOME YOU HERE, SIR, TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. WE EXTEND
TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND OUR THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT
YOU'VE DONE IN OUR CITY HELPING THOSE WHO ARE MEDICALLY IN NEED. WE
HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE THAT WORK AND, PLEASE, ALWAYS KNOW THAT YOU'RE
WELCOME HERE, AND WELCOME AS A HIBERNIAN, ALSO. THANK YOU SO VERY
MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. CUSICK FOR A SECOND.
MR. CUSICK: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AGAIN, MR.
SPEAKER. AGAIN, I RISE FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN INTRODUCTION. THERE IS A
RESOLUTION ON TODAY'S CALENDAR MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR CUOMO TO
PROCLAIM JANUARY 21ST, 2019 IRISH DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE DAY
WITHIN THE STATE OF NEW YORK. ON JANUARY 21ST, 1919, THE
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE IRISH PEOPLE ELECTED IN THE 32 COUNTIES OF THE
ELECTION OF 1918, ASSEMBLED IN DUBLIN AS A NATIONAL PARLIAMENT,
ADOPTED IRELAND'S DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND RATIFIED THE IRISH
REPUBLIC PROCLAIMED ON EASTER MONDAY OF 1916.
TODAY, WE ARE JOINED BY MEMBERS OF THE NEW YORK
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STATE ANCIENT ORDER OF HIBERNIANS WHO ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE
RATIFICATION OF IRELAND'S DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. WE ARE JOINED
BY AOH NEW YORK STATE PRESIDENT VICTOR VOGEL --
(APPLAUSE)
LADIES AOH NEW YORK STATE PRESIDENT JACQUELINE
CLUTE --
(APPLAUSE)
AOH NATIONAL FREEDOM FOR IRELAND CHAIRMAN MARTIN
GALVIN --
(APPLAUSE)
LADIES AOH NEW YORK STATE FREEDOM FOR ALL IRELAND
CHAIRWOMAN DOLORES DESCH --
(APPLAUSE)
IRISH-AMERICAN HERITAGE MUSEUM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
DR. ELIZABETH STACK.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. SPEAKER, ON BEHALF OF THE NEW YORK STATE
AMERICAN-IRISH LEGISLATORS AND MY COLLEAGUES IN THE CHAMBER, IF YOU
COULD WELCOME THE MEMBERS OF THE AOH AND AFFORD THEM THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. CUSICK, THE SPEAKER, ALL OF OUR LEGISLATORS, PARTICULARLY OUR
IRISH-AMERICAN LEGISLATORS, WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK
STATE ASSEMBLY. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. OUR
CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AUSPICIOUS OCCASION, HOPE THAT YOU KNOW YOU
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ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE. PLEASE REMEMBER TO COME BACK AND VISIT US
AGAIN. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. BYRNE.
MR. BYRNE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING
ME TO ARRANGE THIS INTRODUCTION OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE GREAT
COUNTY OF PUTNAM. THE DEPUTY COUNTY LEGISLATOR OF PUTNAM COUNTY,
TONI ADDONIZIO; LEGISLATOR NEAL SULLIVAN AND THE HEALTH -- ACTING
HEALTH COMMISSIONER OF PUTNAM COUNTY, DR. MICHAEL NESHEIWAT. I'VE
KNOWN THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR MANY YEARS. TONI ALSO WORKS AS AN
ASSOCIATE REAL ESTATE BROKER IN PUTNAM COUNTY. NEAL OWNS HIS OWN
INSURANCE AGENCY, THE SULLIVAN INSURANCE AGENCY, AND WAS THE PAST
CHAIR OF THE BIG I OF NEW YORK.
KNOWN THEM AS PUBLIC SERVANTS; QUITE FRANKLY, NEAL
SULLIVAN ACTUALLY USED TO REPRESENT ME WHEN I LIVED IN A DIFFERENT AREA
OF THE TOWN OF CARMEL. THEY BOTH REPRESENT CARMEL, PATTERSON AND
DR. NESHEIWAT, IN ADDITION TO BEING THE HEALTH COMMISSIONER OF
PUTNAM COUNTY, HE ALSO SERVES THE VERY IMPORTANT ROLE OF COUNTY
CORONER, ELECTED POSITION IN OUR COUNTY. HE'S A FORMER CAPTAIN, PAST
CAPTAIN OF THE CARMEL VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT. HE CONTINUES TO BE
A FIREFIGHTER AND SERVES AS A -- AND OFFERS MEDICAL SERVICES AND HEALTH
SERVICES TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ALL OVER PUTNAM COUNTY. I ASK YOU
PLEASE GIVE THEM -- OFFER THEM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE AND GIVE
THEM A GREAT BIG ALBANY WELCOME.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
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OF MR. BYRNE, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THIS
DISTINGUISHED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM PUTNAM COUNTY. WE THANK
YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN PUBLIC SERVICE, AS WELL AS YOUR
BUSINESS EFFORTS. HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE THAT WORK. HOPE THAT
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO HELP MR. BYRNE FIND HIS WAY. THANK YOU
SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
(PAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
COULD CALL THE CODES COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
AND RPT TO THE PARLOR. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: COMMITTEE ON
CODES, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM; REAL PROPERTY TAXATION IN THE
PARLOR. PLEASE PROCEED THERE IMMEDIATELY.
(PAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
COULD PLEASE CALL -- THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, CODES AND REAL
PROPERTY TAX, HAVING COMPLETED THEIR WORK, WE'RE NOW READY FOR WAYS
AND MEANS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WAYS AND MEANS
COMMITTEE, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM. PLEASE PROCEED
IMMEDIATELY.
(PAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, THE WAYS
AND MEANS COMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED THEIR WORK. WOULD YOU PLEASE
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CALL RULES IMMEDIATELY TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: RULES IN THE
SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.
(WHEREUPON, THE HOUSE STOOD AT EASE.)
* * * * *
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME
TO ORDER.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE COULD
TAKE UP THE RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3 OF THE MAIN CALENDAR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 53, MS.
LUPARDO. LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW M.
CUOMO TO PROCLAIM JANUARY 2019 AS POVERTY AWARENESS MONTH IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 54, MR.
CUSICK. LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW M.
CUOMO TO PROCLAIM JANUARY 21ST, 2019 AS IRISH DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED NO. THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. IF WE COULD ADVANCE THE A-CALENDAR AND TAKE UP RULES
REPORT NOS. 19, 20, 26, 27 AND 28.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON MRS.
PEOPLES-STOKES' MOTION, THE A-CALENDAR IS ADVANCED.
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02570, RULES REPORT
NO. 19, JONES, WOERNER. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELECTION LAW, IN
RELATION TO THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES FOR DESIGNATING PETITIONS IN THE
YEAR 2019.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. I REALIZE THAT IT'S A LITTLE LATE IN THE EVENING, BUT THIS IS OUR
FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY. MEMBERS, AND I WOULD THINK THAT THERE'S NOT A TON
ON HERE, AND THERE IS A CONFERENCE AFTERWARDS. IF WE COULD REMAIN IN
OR AROUND THE CHAMBER SO THAT THIS CAN MOVE QUICKLY, IT WOULD BE
GREATLY APPRECIATED. AGAIN, MEMBERS, THIS IS THE FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY.
THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY,
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MEMBERS. IN THE SOUND OF OUR VOICE, COME TO THE CHAMBER AND VOTE.
IF YOU ARE IN THE CHAMBER, VOTE NOW. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE ONE
QUICK INTRODUCTION AND THEN WE'LL -- WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CLETUS
EZENWA FROM LU ENGINEERS, AND JULIE HARRIS FROM LU ENGINEERS, AS
WELL. MR. CLETUS IS FROM THE BUFFALO AREA OFFICE OF THIS ENGINEERING
FIRM, AND WE'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO WELCOME HIM TO OUR CHAMBERS, MR.
SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE
WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. EXTEND TO YOU
THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. HOPE THAT YOU WILL ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS
AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU COME BACK AND VISIT US. THANK YOU SO VERY
MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
COULD PLEASE CALL A CORRECTIONS COMMITTEE INTO AN IMMEDIATE MEETING
IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CORRECTIONS
COMMITTEE, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY. MR. WEPRIN
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WILL MEET YOU THERE.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02683, RULES REPORT
NO. 20, L. ROSENTHAL, DINOWITZ, HEASTIE, PEOPLES-STOKES, ENGLEBRIGHT,
GUNTHER, OTIS, JAFFEE, STIRPE, SIMOTAS, GALEF, MOSLEY, LIFTON, BARRETT,
PAULIN, ARROYO, WALKER, WEPRIN, BICHOTTE, SIMON, BLAKE, CAHILL,
SEAWRIGHT, BARRON, BUCHWALD, BRONSON, HEVESI, HYNDMAN, ORTIZ,
NOLAN, JONES, CARROLL, RIVERA, GLICK, NIOU, DE LA ROSA, PRETLOW,
GOTTFRIED, D'URSO, VANEL, TITUS, JEAN-PIERRE, FERNANDEZ, BENEDETTO,
CRUZ, EPSTEIN, FRONTUS, GRIFFIN, JACOBSON, QUART, REYES, RICHARDSON,
ROMEO, RYAN, SAYEGH, BURKE, STECK, WOERNER. AN ACT TO AMEND THE
CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IN
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION OF A SEXUAL OFFENSE COMMITTED AGAINST A CHILD; TO
AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS FOR CIVIL ACTIONS RELATED TO A SEXUAL OFFENSE COMMITTED
AGAINST A CHILD, REVIVING SUCH ACTIONS OTHERWISE BARRED BY THE EXISTING
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS AND GRANTING TRIAL PREFERENCE TO SUCH ACTIONS; TO
AMEND THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING THAT THE
NOTICE OF CLAIM PROVISIONS SHALL NOT APPLY TO SUCH ACTIONS; TO AMEND
THE COURT OF CLAIMS ACT, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING THAT THE NOTICE OF
INTENTION TO FILE PROVISIONS SHALL NOT APPLY TO SUCH ACTIONS; TO AMEND
THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING THAT THE NOTICE OF CLAIM
PROVISIONS SHALL NOT APPLY TO SUCH ACTIONS; AND TO AMEND THE JUDICIARY
LAW, IN RELATION TO JUDICIAL TRAINING RELATING TO SEXUAL ABUSE OF MINORS
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AND RULES REVIVING CIVIL ACTIONS RELATING TO SEXUAL OFFENSES COMMITTED
AGAINST CHILDREN.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS
REQUESTED, MS. ROSENTHAL.
MS. ROSENTHAL: THIS BILL WOULD EXTEND THE
CURRENT CRIMINAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS BY FIVE YEARS. THE RESULT IS
MISDEMEANORS COULD BE PROSECUTED UNTIL THE VICTIM IS AGE 25, FELONIES
UNTIL THE VICTIM TURNS 28. IT EXTENDS THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS TO ALLOW
A LAWSUIT FOR CHILD SEX ABUSE TO BE FILED UNTIL THE VICTIM TURNS 55 YEARS
OF AGE, THAT'S ON THE CIVIL SIDE. THERE IS ALSO A RETROACTIVE REVIVAL
WINDOW ESTABLISHED THAT WOULD ALLOW A VICTIM TO BRING A LAWSUIT FOR A
PERIOD OF ONE YEAR, STARTING SIX MONTHS AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS
BILL ALSO CLARIFIES THAT FAILURE TO FILE A NOTICE OF CLAIM IS NOT A BAR TO
FILING A LAWSUIT DURING THE WINDOW WHEN THE ACTION IS AGAINST A PUBLIC
ENTITY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER, WOULD THE SPONSOR YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WILL YOU YIELD, MS.
ROSENTHAL?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR YIELDS.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MS. ROSENTHAL. UNDER
CURRENT LAW, IF YOU HAVE A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT WHO IS UNDER THE
AGE OF 18, THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS ALREADY TOLLED UNTIL THEY'RE AT
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LEAST 18; IS THAT CORRECT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: CAN YOU SPEAK LOUDER?
MR. GOODELL: SO UNDER CURRENT LAW, ANY CIVIL
ACTION INVOLVING SOMEONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IS AUTOMATICALLY TOLLED,
IT DOESN'T STARTED TO RUN UNTIL THEY BECOME 18 YEARS OLD, CORRECT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: AND THIS WOULD RUN THAT SO INSTEAD
OF 18 YEARS OLD, THEY COULD -- IT WOULD TOLL THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS
UNTIL JUST BEFORE THEY WERE AGE 55; IS THAT CORRECT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: OR AGE 55.
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE AGE 55,
WOULD THEY THEN HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OR THREE YEARS OR WHATEVER AFTER
THAT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, THIS BILL LIMITS IT TO AGE 55.
MR. GOODELL: OKAY. NOW ALSO IN ADDITION TO NOT
STARTING THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS UNTIL SOMEONE IS 18, IF THERE'S A
CRIMINAL CHARGE THAT'S FILED, AM I CORRECT THAT THE CIVIL ACTION IS
LIKEWISE EXTENDED AUTOMATICALLY FOR AT LEAST A YEAR AND UP TO SEVEN
YEARS PENDING THE CRIMINAL ACTION?
MS. ROSENTHAL: THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN
THE CIVIL AND THE CRIMINAL.
MR. GOODELL: WELL, I WOULD DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION
TO CPLR 215 SUBPARAGRAPH 8, THAT PROVIDES FOR AN EXTENSION OF THE
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CIVIL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IN THE EVENT THERE'S ALSO CRIMINAL CHARGES. IS
IT YOUR VIEW THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE CURRENT LAW?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WHAT SECTION AGAIN IS THAT?
MR. GOODELL: IT'S THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND
RULES SECTION 215, SUBPARAGRAPH 8.
MS. ROSENTHAL: I WOULD SAY GENERALLY THAT'S TRUE.
MR. GOODELL: SO IF THERE IS CRIMINAL CHARGES,
THEN, IT WOULD BE EXTENDED AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO SEVEN YEARS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: IT COULD BE.
MR. GOODELL: NOW UNDER -- IF WE ADOPT THIS BILL
AND YOU'RE ASSAULTED THE DAY BEFORE YOUR 18TH BIRTHDAY.
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: YOU WOULD HAVE UNTIL YOU'RE AGE
55 TO BRING THE CLAIM?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: AND IF YOU'RE ASSAULTED --
MS. ROSENTHAL: THIS IS -- THIS IS UNDER CIVIL
SUITS.
MR. GOODELL: CIVIL CLAIM, RIGHT.
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: AND IF YOU'RE ASSAULTED THE DAY
AFTER YOUR BIRTHDAY --
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: -- YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT
WITHIN THE CURRENT STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.
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MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT ONE DAY
MAKES 40 YEARS OF DIFFERENCE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YOU KNOW, WE -- WE'VE DECIDED
THAT WE, AS A BODY, AS A LAW-MAKING ENTITY, WE'VE SAID 18 IS THE AGE
BELOW WHICH THEY WERE CONSIDERED A CHILD, SO...
MR. GOODELL: AND, OF COURSE, THE CURRENT LAW
DOESN'T START THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS UNTIL YOU REACH 18 ANYWAY,
CORRECT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES, BUT IN THIS CASE, AS I SAID
LAST YEAR, ONE DAY YOU'RE NOT 18, YOU CAN'T VOTE. THE NEXT DAY YOU ARE
18, YOU CAN, SO, THAT'S WHERE THE LINE IS.
MR. GOODELL: OF COURSE, UNDER LEGISLATION WE
ADOPTED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, YOU COULD REGISTER TO VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
WHEN YOU'RE 16, RIGHT? YOU COULDN'T ACTUALLY VOTE, BUT THAT'S, I
SUPPOSE, A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES, BUT IT'S NOT THAT GERMANE TO
THIS.
MR. GOODELL: WHAT ARE THE CURRENT RECORD
RETENTION REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY TO SCHOOLS AND MUNICIPALITIES?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, UP UNTIL NOW, THEY --
VICTIMS WOULD HAVE A 90-DAY -- 90 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE INCIDENT
TO FILE A CLAIM, OR INTENTION TO FILE A CLAIM, AND THIS BILL DOES AWAY WITH
THAT PROVISION.
MR. GOODELL: WELL, AS YOU KNOW THE LAW ALSO
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CONTAINS A NUMBER OF MANDATORY RECORD RETENTION DATES WHERE
MUNICIPALITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP RECORDS FOR A
CERTAIN TIME PERIOD. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT TIME PERIOD IS FOR
MUNICIPALITIES OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YOU KNOW, THIS BILL DOESN'T DEAL
WITH THAT. IT DOESN'T TOUCH THAT PROVISION OF LAW.
MR. GOODELL: ARE YOU AWARE THAT NONE OF THEM
EXTEND 40 YEARS, 30 YEARS, 20 YEARS, 15 YEARS; THEY ALL END TYPICALLY
SEVEN TO TEN YEARS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YOU KNOW, MANY AGENCIES KEEP
RECORDS THAT LONG, SO SOME WILL HAVE THEM, SOME WILL NOT.
MR. GOODELL: BUT IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE CURRENT
RECORD RETENTION REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN LAW, MOST OF THESE RECORDS
WOULD BE ELIMINATED OR DESTROYED WAY BEFORE THE END OF THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS.
MS. ROSENTHAL: I DON'T -- I DON'T KNOW UPON
WHAT AUTHORITY YOU KNOW THAT.
MR. GOODELL: NOW, YOUR BILL PROVIDES THAT YOU
CAN RAISE AS AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE LATCHES, DELAY, MATERIAL
IMPAIRMENT, CORRECT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: THAT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE; THAT'S
ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
MR. GOODELL: BUT IN ORDER TO DO SO, YOU HAVE TO
FILE IT AS AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE WITH A CERTIFICATE OF MERIT.
MS. ROSENTHAL: NO, THAT -- I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT
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THAT UP. THE CERTIFICATE OF MERIT PIECE IS ALSO REMOVED FROM THIS BILL.
MR. GOODELL: OH, THAT'S GONE NOW?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MR. GOODELL: OKAY. I MUST HAVE AN EARLIER DRAFT.
DOES THIS BILL, YOUR BILL LANGUAGE CURRENTLY SAY THAT
YOU'RE NOT PREJUDICED BASED ON THE PASSAGE OF TIME?
MS. ROSENTHAL: IT ACTUALLY HAS A PHRASE IN THERE
THAT SAYS THE FACT THAT YOU WERE BARRED IN THE PAST IS NOT A BAR TO USING
THE WINDOW TO GO BACK TO COURT.
MR. GOODELL: NOW UNDER CURRENT LAW, THERE'S A
NUMBER OF SPECIAL PROVISIONS DESIGNED TO PROTECT OUR SCHOOLS AND
MUNICIPALITIES ON CLAIMS, IT'S ALL UNDER SECTION 50 OF THE GENERAL
MUNICIPAL LAW. NOTICE OF CLAIM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A HEARING, AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR A MUNICIPALITY TO INVESTIGATE AND SETTLE A CLAIM BEFORE
A LAWSUIT IS BROUGHT; AM I CORRECT THAT YOUR LEGISLATION ELIMINATES ALL
THOSE PROTECTIONS FOR MUNICIPALITIES?
MS. ROSENTHAL: I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO
ARE DIFFERENT CASES. THOSE CASES DO NOT CONCERN CHILDHOOD SEXUAL
ABUSE SO THOSE ARE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. IN THIS BILL WE'VE
ELIMINATED THE NOTICE OF CLAIM.
MR. GOODELL: AND, LIKEWISE, YOU'VE ELIMINATED
NOT ONLY THE NOTICE OF CLAIM, THE RIGHT TO A 50-H HEARING AND ANY OTHER
OF THOSE SPECIAL PROVISIONS THAT APPLY TO CLAIMS AGAINST SCHOOLS AND
MUNICIPALITIES?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
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MR. GOODELL: OKAY. DOES THIS BILL, BY THE WAY,
INCREASE MANDATORY BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING
WITH YOUNG PEOPLE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: NO, OTHER BILLS DEAL WITH THAT,
BUT NOT THIS ONE.
MR. GOODELL: DOES THIS BILL INCREASE REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS? FOR EXAMPLE, FOR CHURCH OFFICIALS --
MS. ROSENTHAL: NO, THIS BILL HAS NO REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS IN IT.
MR. GOODELL: DOES THIS BILL PROVIDE ANY FUNDING
FOR VICTIMS WHO MIGHT BE DAMAGED BY OR SUFFER A LOSS OR INJURY FROM
INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY, LIKE A COMPENSATION FUND OR
SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, THIS BILL PROVIDES THE PATH
TO JUSTICE. COLLECTING THE FUNDS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
MR. GOODELL: I'M SORRY, I MISSED THAT.
MS. ROSENTHAL: THIS BILL PROVIDES THE PATH TO
JUSTICE TO AIR YOUR COMPLAINT IN A COURT OF LAW. IT DOES NOT DEAL WITH
COLLECTING ON THE CLAIM.
MR. GOODELL: AND IT DOESN'T CREATE ANY SPECIAL
VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED IN
OTHER BILLS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: NO. THIS BILL WILL ACTUALLY LEAD
TO THE INSTITUTIONS, IF THEY ARE FOUND NEGLIGENT, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO
PAY.
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MR. GOODELL: I SEE. AND IS THERE ANY
CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE FACT THAT NO INSTITUTION CAN BUY INSURANCE
THAT COVERS CLAIMS WITH NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS; IS THERE ANY
CONSIDERATION WITH THAT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: NO. I MEAN, A LOT OF THE
INSTITUTIONS HAVE INSURANCE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THE INSURANCE
LOBBY HAS LOBBIED AGAINST THIS BILL, BUT...
MR. GOODELL: ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY INSURANCE
THAT COVERS CLAIMS THAT ARE 20, 30, 40 YEARS OLD?
MS. ROSENTHAL: THAT ARE WHAT? OH, NO, BUT
MANY ARE SELF-INSURED.
MR. GOODELL: SELF-INSURED, MEANING IT COMES OUT
OF THEIR OWN POCKET. I LOVE THAT PHRASE, "SELF-INSURED", WHICH REALLY
MEANS NO INSURANCE, RIGHT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, THEY CAN MAKE A CHOICE TO
SELF-INSURE OR TO BUY INSURANCE.
MR. GOODELL: AND ARE YOU AWARE -- IS THERE ANY
INSURANCE COMPANY IN THE WORLD THAT WILL WRITE INSURANCE THAT COVERS
CLAIMS WITH NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS GOING BACK WITHOUT LIMITATION?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YOU KNOW, I -- THERE ARE OTHER
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THERE ARE NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, SO YOU MIGHT
ASK ON THOSE CASES, AS WELL.
MR. GOODELL: OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THIS
ADDRESSES A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, IS THERE ANY PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL
THAT ARE DESIGNED TO REDUCE THE INSTANCE OF SEX ABUSE AMONGST YOUNG
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PEOPLE, LIKE INCREASED EDUCATION, ENCOURAGING EARLIER REPORTING,
ENHANCED STANDARDS FOR THOSE WHO ARE DEALING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE;
ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, OR IS IT JUST LIMITED TO THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, IT'S -- IT'S MORE THAN JUST
EXTENDING THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. IT'S PROVIDING A LOOKBACK WINDOW
WITH A SIX-MONTH LEAD TIME SO THAT PEOPLE WHO WERE ABUSED WHILE THEY
WERE CHILDREN AND THEY ARE NOW ADULTS WILL HAVE RECOURSE TO GO BACK
AND NAME THEIR ABUSER IN COURT AND THE INSTITUTION THAT MIGHT HAVE
HARBORED THAT ABUSER. I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS KIND OF STRONG LAW WOULD
BE A BIG ENOUGH DETERRENT SO THAT THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR DID NOT
CONTINUE, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT CHANGING BEHAVIOR.
MR. GOODELL: NOW, IS THERE ANY PROVISION IN THIS
LAW -- LAWSUIT, DURING THAT WIDE OPEN PERIOD, MUST BE COMMENCED
WHILE THE ALLEGED ABUSER IS ALIVE --
MS. ROSENTHAL: NO --
MR. GOODELL: -- OR CAN IT BE COMMENCED AGAINST
THEIR ESTATE, OR EVEN AGAINST THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR MUNICIPALITY LONG
AFTER THE PERSON IS DEAD?
MS. ROSENTHAL: THIS -- THIS DOES NOT -- THIS BILL
DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT AND, PRESUMABLY, WHEN IT GETS TO COURT, THE -- THE
JUDGE WILL DECIDE IF -- AND THE JURY WILL DECIDE IF THEY'VE PROVED THEIR
CASE.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS.
ROSENTHAL --
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MS. ROSENTHAL: THANK YOU.
MR. GOODELL: -- FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.
GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. A FEW
MONTHS AGO I WAS CHANNEL SURFING AND I CAME ACROSS THIS SHOW WHICH
CAUGHT MY ATTENTION FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES; FORTUNATELY IT WAS JUST A
FEW MINUTES BECAUSE IT WAS ENTIRELY FICTIONAL. AND THE PREMISE OF THE
STORY WAS THAT -- OF THE SHOW WAS THAT ALL THE CRIMINAL LAWS WERE
SUSPENDED FOR A 24-HOUR PERIOD AND YOU COULD RAPE, KILL, PILLAGE, DO
WHATEVER YOU WANTED FOR THAT 24-HOUR PERIOD. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE
NAME OF IT, IT'S PURGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT - YEAH - AND IT WAS -- IT
WAS FICTION.
BUT THIS BILL APPARENTLY IS NOT FICTION, BECAUSE IT'S JUST
LIKE THAT TV SHOW PURGE. FOR A YEAR, YOU CAN BRING A CIVIL LAWSUIT
AGAINST ANYBODY WITH NO RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER AS TO THE TIMING.
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE ALIVE ANYMORE, YOU CAN SUE THEIR ESTATE IF
THEY HAVE ONE, OR THEIR EMPLOYER. AND YOUR CLAIM COULD BE 50, 60, 70
YEARS OLD, LONG PAST THE TIME THAT ANY, ANY INDIVIDUAL OR EMPLOYER
WOULD HAVE ANY RECORDS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. AND IN A CIVIL CASE,
SOMETIMES IT COMES DOWN TO ONE PERSON'S WORD, HIS WORD AGAINST HER
WORD OR VICE VERSA. IT'S NOT LIKE A CRIMINAL CASE WHERE YOU HAVE TO
HAVE SUBSTANTIVE EVIDENCE, YOU KNOW LIKE A CSI OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. NO, IN A CIVIL CASE IT'S BASED ON TESTIMONY.
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AND SO HERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BILL THAT WOULD
ALLOW SOMEONE TO SUE SOMEONE ELSE OR THEIR ESTATE OR THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT OR THEIR MUNICIPALITY WITH NO ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT HAS ANY
KNOWLEDGE THAT CAN TESTIFY AGAINST THEM, WITH NO INSURANCE WHATSOEVER
TO COVER YOUR MUNICIPALITY OR YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN A JUDGMENT IS RENDERED AGAINST YOUR MUNICIPALITY AND SCHOOL
DISTRICT AND THERE'S NO INSURANCE? WELL, THE ANSWER IS IT COMES OUT OF
THE POCKET OF THE TAXPAYERS IN YOUR SCHOOL OR YOUR MUNICIPALITY, IF THEY
CAN EVEN RAISE THE TAXES OVER THE TAX CAP TO COVER IT. AND IF THEY DON'T,
WHERE DOES IT COMES FROM? THERE'S NO MAGIC MONEY TREE OUT THERE. IT
COMES OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH MEANS ALL THE CURRENT
STUDENTS WILL BE UNDERFUNDED, AND THE MUNICIPALITY WILL BE
UNDERFUNDED AND IT'LL CREATE FINANCIAL CHAOS.
PERSONALLY, I SUPPORT EXTENDING THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING
THAT WE SHOULD DO IS EXTEND THE CRIMINAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS WHERE
THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN THE CRIMINAL LAW TO PREVENT AGAINST FALSE CLAIMS
BECAUSE OF THE STANDARD OF PROOF IS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. SO, I
SUPPORT THAT ASPECT OF THE BILL AND I COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE FOR -- FOR
INCLUDING THAT. BUT AN UNLIMITED STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS NEITHER WISE NOR
APPROPRIATE AND WHEN YOU COUPLE THAT WITH THE FACT THAT THIS BILL
ACTUALLY DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING CLAIM, DOES IT?
DOESN'T INCREASE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, DOESN'T INCREASE BACKGROUND
CHECKS, DOESN'T PUT IN ANY EXTRA PROTECTIONS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. ALL
IT DOES IS ALLOW SOMEBODY, REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY DECADES HAVE
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PASSED, TO SUE YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT AND YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY
CLAIMING THEY WERE A VICTIM WHEN THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY RECORDS OR
ANYONE ALIVE TO DEFEND YOUR LOCALITY.
FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT. ALTHOUGH,
AS I MENTIONED, I WOULD SUPPORT PORTIONS OF IT AS IT RELATES TO EXTENDING
THE CRIMINAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER, AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. SCHMITT.
MR. SCHMITT: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD
THE SPONSOR YIELD FOR QUESTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WILL YOU YIELD, MS.
ROSENTHAL?
THE SPONSOR YIELDS.
MR. SCHMITT: ARE YOU AWARE OF THE SHIRK V. VISTA
UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT DECISION IN CALIFORNIA THAT FOUND WHILE THE
CALIFORNIA CHILD VICTIMS ACT MAY HAVE BEEN WRITTEN TO APPLY TO BOTH
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, THAT IT DID NOT ACTUALLY APPLY TO PUBLIC
OR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WE TOOK CARE OF THIS ISSUE WITH
ELIMINATING THE NOTICE OF CLAIM.
MR. SCHMITT: IT WAS FOUND THAT BY POTENTIALLY
INTENTIONAL DESIGN, A LEGISLATIVE DRAFTING ERROR SHIELDED PUBLIC SCHOOLS
AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES FROM THE ONE-YEAR REVIVAL OF LAPSED CLAIMS.
THIS WAS THE RESULT OF THAT DECISION. IS THERE ANY CONCERN IN YOUR MIND
OF ANY POSSIBILITY THAT WHAT OCCURRED IN CALIFORNIA WITH THE DRAFTING
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ERROR COULD OF OR HAS OCCURRED IN THIS BILL BEFORE US TODAY?
MS. ROSENTHAL: ABSOLUTELY NOT.
MR. SCHMITT: IN THE CASE OF FUTURE JUDICIAL
REVIEW, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT OF THIS BILL BEFORE US
TODAY IS TO BE EQUALLY IMPLIED IN ALL ASPECTS TO ALL INSTITUTIONS - PRIVATE
OR PUBLIC - EVEN IF FUTURE DISCREPANCIES ARE DISCOVERED?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, TO GIVE YOU A SIMPLE
ANSWER, IT SAYS "EVERY"; IT SAYS "EVERY CIVIL CLAIM." SO, THAT COVERS
EVERY INSTITUTION. WE BELIEVE LAST YEAR THAT IT -- IT DID COVER EVERY, BUT
PEOPLE WERE ALLEGING THAT IT DIDN'T SO WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC IN THIS BILL
TO SAY THAT IT COVERS BOTH, SO THERE SHOULD BE NO MISINTERPRETATION.
MR. SCHMITT: SO YOU'RE CONFIDENT. I'M IN
SUPPORT, SO --
MS. ROSENTHAL: I AM.
MR. SCHMITT: -- I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT
THAT'S ON THE --
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES, I AM AND THE TEAM OF LEGAL
EAGLES IN THE ASSEMBLY IS CONFIDENT, AS WELL.
MR. SCHMITT: GREAT. THANK YOU.
AND NEXT QUESTION: WOULD THERE BE ANY REMEDY FOR
VICTIMS OF ABUSE WHO ARE NOT VICTIMS OF INSTITUTIONAL ABUSE, SUCH AS
VICTIMS OF FAMILY MEMBERS, PRIVATE BABYSITTER, WHO ARE NOT
DEEP-POCKETED INSTITUTIONS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A -- THAT
IS AN ISSUE, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO TO COURT AND SUE THEM. SO,
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WHETHER THEY HAVE MONEY OR NOT, I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT THEY CAN ATTEMPT
TO GET DAMAGES.
MR. SCHMITT: OKAY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
QUESTIONS.
MS. ROSENTHAL: THANK YOU.
MR. SCHMITT: MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.
SCHMITT.
MR. SCHMITT: I'LL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THE CHILD
VICTIMS ACT TODAY. I BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS DESERVE TO SEEK JUSTICE AND
HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMEDY THE GRAVE WRONG THAT WAS DONE TO THEM.
THE FACT THAT THIS LEGISLATION WILL APPLY TO ALL INSTITUTIONS, PRIVATE OR
PUBLIC, AND THAT IT HAS BEEN CLEARLY OUTLINED BY THE SPONSOR TODAY IS OF
CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO ME. ALL VICTIMS DESERVE EQUAL ACCESS TO JUSTICE.
FOR A MAJORITY OF VICTIMS WHO SUFFERED ACTS
COMMITTED BY FAMILY, FRIENDS OR INDIVIDUALS UNCONNECTED WITH
DEEP-POCKETED INSTITUTIONS, THEY WILL NOT SEEK EQUAL JUSTICE AFTER THE
PASSAGE OF THIS BILL. ALSO, WHILE OTHER LEGISLATION WOULD ELIMINATE THE
CRIMINAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, THIS BILL WILL NOT. SO, WHILE WE'RE
CERTAINLY HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND I'M HAPPY TO VOTE YES, MY
HOPE IS THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS JUST THE BEGINNING, AND THAT THIS BODY
WILL WORK TO GO EVEN FURTHER TO GUARANTEE JUSTICE IS EQUALLY AVAILABLE TO
ALL VICTIMS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.
MR. FITZPATRICK.
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MR. FITZPATRICK: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. YOU
KNOW, WHEN THIS -- WHEN THIS LEGISLATION WAS ORIGINALLY INTRODUCED, IT
WAS TARGETED SOLELY TO PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS, AND WE KNOW THAT THE
PRIMARY TARGET WAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. AND NOW HERE WE ARE TODAY
AND LO AND BEHOLD, IT'S EVERYONE -- EVERYONE IS IN, PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS AS
WELL AS PRIVATE. BUT I REALLY, I HAVE -- WHEN -- AFTER THIS BILL IS PASSED
AND SIGNED, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT, ESPECIALLY ON THE PUBLIC
SIDE, WHICH EXPLAINS WHY THE ORIGINAL VERSION WAS SO STRENUOUSLY
OPPOSED BY NEW YORK STATE UNITED TEACHERS AND OTHERS THAT THERE'S
GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS EXPOSURE TO PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS, AS WELL AS
PERHAPS TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THE SCOUTS, BOY SCOUTS AND PERHAPS
OTHERS.
BUT I THINK -- I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE NEXT YEAR A
CHAPTER AMENDMENT TO THIS BILL BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A HUE AND
CRY FROM THOSE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD THIS, AND I THINK
WE'RE GOING TO END UP SEEING NEXT YEAR PROBABLY A CHAPTER
AMENDMENT TO BACK OUT THE PUBLICS AND LEAVE THE PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS
TOTALLY EXPOSED. BECAUSE I THINK THE BLUFF WAS CALLED ON THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH WHO SAID WE WOULD WITHDRAW OUR SUPPORT IF PUBLICS ARE
INCLUDED AND, YES THEY ARE, BUT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE GIVETH, THE
LEGISLATURE CAN TAKETH AWAY. AND I BELIEVE NEXT YEAR PROBABLY YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE A CHAPTER AMENDMENT BACKING OUT THE PUBLICS TO PROTECT
THEM. AND IF THAT OCCURS, IT WOULD BE WRONG.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY, I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR
LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING TO BANKRUPT MY DIOCESE OR ANY OTHER DIOCESE
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AND THREATEN CATHOLIC HEALTH CARE, CATHOLIC CHARITIES OR CATHOLIC
EDUCATION. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS DONE MORE THAN ANY OTHER
INSTITUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. IF YOU SIGN UP
TO TEACH SUNDAY SCHOOL OR YOU SIGN UP TO COACH CYO BASKETBALL, JUST
WATCH HOW MANY HOOPS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO
MINISTER TO CHILDREN TODAY IN THE CHURCH. THEY'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING
JOB AND THEY HAVE CREATED A COMPENSATION FUND TO MEET THOSE NEEDS.
THE LOOKBACK PERIOD, IF YOU TALK TO A LOT OF ATTORNEYS, THEY'LL SAY IT IS
NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SCRATCH THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS HERE, BECAUSE IF
YOU DO IT FOR THIS, YOU CAN DO IT FOR OTHER ISSUES, AS WELL.
SO, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING
TO BANKRUPT NOT JUST PERHAPS CATHOLIC DIOCESES OR THE BOY SCOUTS OF
AMERICA OR A UNIVERSITY OR A HOSPITAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS THE
WRONG THING TO DO. ESTABLISH A COMPENSATION FUND AS THE CHURCH HAS
DONE AND THE NEEDS OF THESE PEOPLE CAN BE MET. BUT FOR THAT REASON,
MR. SPEAKER, I OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION AND WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR IT.
THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES
FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
COULD PLEASE CALL THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE
ROOM IMMEDIATELY FOR A COMMITTEE MEETING.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: JUDICIARY COMMITTEE,
SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU.
MS. LINDA ROSENTHAL.
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MS. ROSENTHAL: THANK YOU.
ON THE BILL.
WE'VE HEARD OVER MANY YEARS ABOUT VICTIMS AND
SURVIVORS OF CHILDHOOD SEX ABUSE, AND I JUST WANT TO READ A LIST OF
NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO GAVE THEIR HEARTS AND SOULS TO THIS EFFORT TO HELP
SPARE ANY FUTURE GENERATIONS OF THIS KIND OF HORRIFIC ABUSE. SO:
AMANDA C, ANA WAGNER, ASHER LOVY, BETH ANNE GOLDBERG, BRIAN
TOALE, BRIDIE FARRELL, BRITTANY KILCHER, CHAIM LEVIN, CHAYA K, CHRIS
GAVAGAN, CONNIE ALTAMIRANO, DEONDRA BROWN, DESIRAE BROWN-LUCH,
DOROTHY FARRELL, FRED MARIGLIANO, GABRIEL SLOYER, GARY GREENBERG,
GERARD BARLOW, HAROLD SEIRING, JASON GOUGH, JAY GOLDBERG, JEANNA
LIMMER, DANA MARCUS, ROBIN SOSIN, DINA RIBAUDO, DR. STUART
COPPERMAN, JEANNE MARRON, JENNIFER BARLOW, JENNIFER S, JESSICA S,
KAT SULLIVAN, KEVIN BRANEY, LAIBY STERN, MAMELA KELLER, MARK
ANTHONY TAYLOR, MARTHA KAMBER, MARY ELLEN BARLOW-O'LOUGHLIN,
MELANIE BLOW, MICHELLE LIANE CARR, PETER BANM, REBECCA HOLLEY,
RICHARD C, ROBERT COSGROVE, ROBERT HOATSON, RONALD SAVAGE, SARA
KABAKOV, SARA SMAHL, NANCY SMAHL, DR. JANE BEDELL, LISA YOUNG,
BOBBY DAVIS, MAXINE DE SETA, MARK WAGNER, PAUL WAGNER, JOHN
WAGNER, CAROLINE WAGNER, SHAUN DOUGHTY, SIVAN PHILO, SOFIA
BOUKHOBZA, SRULY HELLER, TANIA COLLAZO, TOM ANDRIOLA, WENDY
HOOKER.
THE FOLLOWING 63 INDIVIDUALS ARE BRINGING SUIT AGAINST
DR. ARCHIBALD AND ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY: HOWARD GORMAN, DONNA
LEVINSOHN, HAROLD MARMON, CHARLES GROSSMAN, GARY SUPEAU,
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VINCENT DOMINICK GUZZONE, IRA RATNER, MATT HARRIS, KENNETH SWARTH,
CYNTHIA FEARN (CUTLER) DE VICQ DE CUMPTICH, GARY GREENE, RICHARD
MANFRE, JON GROSSMAN, ADRIENNE EPSTEIN KORN, MICHAEL MANFRE,
GARY JAMES MANFRE, ROBERT EPSTEIN, GEORGE AVILA, CHIS HAMMETT,
MEL GREENBLATT, SCOTT TURNER, MICHAEL DAVIS, DAVID GOLDSMITH,
CHARLES MARAVOLO, SUSAN LEVY, FRED GRUNSEID, ROLAND MONTANA,
MICHAEL GUIDA, HELENE HAMILTON, JACK PEARSON, HARRIET COHEN
PLOTKIN, SCOTT HOWARD FRIEDMAN, JAMES FLEMING, MICHAEL R. MURRAY,
JAMES MADIO, STEVE LEON, MARTIN COHEN, CHARLES G, MICHAEL A, JULIA
B, MARK P, FRANK G, KENNETH R, HENRY D, BRIAN B, MARK S, JEFFREY E,
NEIL S, RICHARD W, DAVID R, MARTIN P, STEVEN F, MATTHEW R, MARC M,
DAVID M, MANNY G, PETER S, MITCHELL R, FRANCISCO L, STEPHEN G,
MITCHELL F, MICHAEL D, STUART R, STEVEN E, DANIEL D. MABB, PATRICIA
MACIULEWICZ RABINOVICH, DIANE REAVES, ERICA OATMAN, YONA KOHN,
DAN BAUER, PAUL DUNN, TRISH CAHILL, PAMELA DEACON O'GRADY AND
LEAH REINER.
HOW -- HOW MUCH TIME WAS THAT?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: EXCUSE ME? YOU
ASKED WHAT, HOW MUCH --
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES, HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE LEFT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: OH, YOU HAVE 11
MINUTES.
MS. ROSENTHAL: I HAVE WHAT?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ELEVEN MINUTES.
MS. ROSENTHAL: LEFT? DONE? WHICH ONE?
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ELEVEN MINUTES LEFT,
MS. ROSENTHAL.
MS. ROSENTHAL: OKAY. I WILL GET TO MY REMARKS
REALLY QUICKLY.
TODAY IS A DAY 13 YEARS IN THE MAKING, BUT WE ARE
FINALLY HERE. FROM THE BEGINNING, THE ODDS AGAINST THIS CHILD VICTIMS
ACT WERE SO LONG. FOR YEARS, POWERFUL INSTITUTIONS WITH SO MUCH TO
HIDE BANDED TOGETHER WITH THE HELP OF THEIR FRIENDS IN THE LEGISLATURE
TO LOCK THE DOORS OF JUSTICE TO SURVIVORS OF CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ASSAULT.
FOR TOO LONG, NEW YORK LAW DEMANDED THE IMPOSSIBLE FROM YOUNG
CHILDREN WHO AT THE TIME OF THEIR ABUSE DID NOT EVEN HAVE THE ABILITY OR
WORDS TO ARTICULATE WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM. AND WE KNOW THAT MANY
OF THE CHILDREN WHO WERE ABUSED WERE PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL OR
MENTAL DISABILITIES.
TO BE THE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ABUSE AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE
CAN SHATTER A PERSON. COUPLED WITH THE MONTHS OR YEARS OF
PSYCHOLOGICAL GROOMING THAT OFTEN PROCEED THE FIRST INSTANCES, ABUSERS
SEEK TOTAL PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL CONTROL OVER THEIR VICTIMS. AFTER THE
SEXUAL ABUSE, INTIMIDATION, COERCION, CONSTANT SHAME IS OFTEN JUST THE
BEGINNING. AS A RESULT, SURVIVORS INTERNALIZE DEEP FEELINGS OF SHAME,
EMBARRASSMENT AND DESPERATION. IT SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE THAT THE
AVERAGE SURVIVOR OF CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE DOES NOT COME FORWARD TO
TELL THEIR STORY FOR YEARS.
FOR TOO LONG, NEW YORK LAW SENT THE MESSAGE THAT THE
SUFFERING OF SURVIVORS WAS SECOND TO THAT OF THE POWERFUL INDIVIDUALS
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AND INSTITUTIONS THAT IT WAS PROTECTING. THAT CHANGES TODAY. TODAY, WE
IN THE ASSEMBLY, A BODY THAT HAS SINCE THE BEGINNING STOOD FIRMLY,
CONSISTENTLY AND RESOLUTELY WITH THE SURVIVORS IN OUR STATE, WILL VOTE
FOR THE LAST TIME TO PASS CVA INTO LAW AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE WILL BE
JOINED BY OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE. TODAY, WE HEED THE WORDS OF
THE CHURCH MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY, WHOSE MISSION STATED IS TO,
QUOTE, "PROTECT THE GREATER GOOD." WE WILL HEED THE WORDS OF THE NOW
FILING FOR BANKRUPTCY BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA TO BE, QUOTE, "PHYSICALLY
STRONG, MENTALLY AWAKE AND MORALLY STRAIGHT." WE WILL HEED THE WORDS
OF THE BOOK OF MATTHEW, WHATEVER YOU DID NOT DO FOR ONE OF THE LEAST
OF THESE, YOU DID NOT DO FOR ME. AND WE WILL HEED THE WORDS OF POPE
FRANCIS WHO, IN 2016, SAID, WE MUST NOT TOLERATE THE ABUSE OF MINORS.
WE MUST DEFEND MINORS AND WE MUST SEVERELY PUNISH THE ABUSERS.
WE HAVE SEEN MANY CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE ROCK BOTH
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS. THIS BILL COVERS BOTH. THIRTEEN YEARS
AGO WHEN OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, MARGE MARKEY, WHO IS HERE TODAY --
(APPLAUSE)
-- INTRODUCED THE BILL, SHE DID SO TO A HAILSTORM OF
OPPOSITION FROM RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO BENEFITTED
THEN AS THEY DO NOW FROM THE STATUS QUO. SHE COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN
THAT IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER 13 YEARS OF FIGHTING, A GLOBAL RECKONING OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HARASSMENT, A JAW-DROPPING 884-PAGE GRAND JURY
REPORT OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA DETAILING THE ABUSE OF MORE THAN 1,000
CHILDREN BY MORE THAN 300 PRIESTS, AN INTERNATIONAL CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE
AMONG PEOPLE OF FAITH AND A BLUE WAVE THAT WASHED AWAY THE
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OPPONENTS AND DELIVERED US TRUE AND COMMITTED PARTNERS. MARGE TOOK
THIS ISSUE ON BECAUSE SHE KNEW THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. MARGE
SPENT MANY YEARS FIGHTING TO SEE THE CVA BECOME LAW AND TODAY
WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT HER COURAGE AND BRAVERY AND I THANK
HER.
IN THE WORDS OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, WHICH EVERY
PERSON IN ELECTED OFFICE SHOULD USE DAILY AS A GUIDE, COWARDICE ASKS
THE QUESTION IS IT SAFE? EXPEDIENCY ASKS THE QUESTION, IS IT POLITIC?
VANITY ASKS THE QUESTION IS IT POPULAR, BUT CONSCIENCE ASKS THE
QUESTION IS IT RIGHT? AND THERE COMES A TIME WHEN ONE MUST TAKE A
POSITION THAT IS NEITHER SAFE NOR POLITIC NOR POPULAR, BUT ONE MUST TAKE
IT BECAUSE ONE'S CONSCIENCE TELLS US THAT IT IS RIGHT.
I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK SPEAKER HEASTIE FOR HIS
COURAGEOUS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE, ENSURING THAT IS ALWAYS AT THE TOP
OF OUR PRIORITY LIST. EACH YEAR, THE ASSEMBLY HAS TAKEN THIS UP,
SENDING A MESSAGE TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT THE ASSEMBLY IS THE
BODY OF THE PEOPLE AND THAT OUR DUTY IS TO PROMOTE AND PROVIDE
JUSTICE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE TEAM OF LAWYERS WHO HAVE BEEN
WORKING ON THIS FOR THE ASSEMBLY FOR YEARS: KATHLEEN O'KEEFE, DAN
SALVIN, MARTY ROSENBAUM, RICH ANCOWITZ AND THE CODES CHAIR, JOE
LENTOL. MY STAFF: LAUREN SCHUSTER, GUS IPSEN AND NICK GUILE, AND
MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE HELPED US ALONG THE WAY.
THERE'S A SENTENCE OUT OF PIRKEI AVOT, WHICH IS A
COMPILATION OF THE TEACHINGS OF THE ETHICS OF THE FATHERS. AND I QUOTE
RABBI TARFON: HE SAID, "IT IS NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FINISH THE WORK
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OF PERFECTING THE WORLD, BUT YOU ARE NOT FREE TO DESIST FROM IT EITHER."
AND MY COLLEAGUES, IN VOTING FOR THIS BILL WE ARE DOING OUR PART IN
PERFECTING THE WORLD. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. BICHOTTE.
MS. BICHOTTE: ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MADAM.
MS. BICHOTTE: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR
OF THIS BILL. THIS BILL CONCERNS THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IN CRIMINAL AND
CIVIL ACTIONS ALLEGING A SEX CRIME. THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IN
CRIMINAL CASES ALLEGING A SEX CRIME AGAINST A CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF 18
WOULD START RUNNING WHEN THE VICTIM TURNS 23, AS OPPOSED TO THE
CURRENT AGE OF 18 YEARS. THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR CIVIL ACTIONS
ALLEGING THAT AN ADULT WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED WHEN THEY WERE A CHILD
WOULD CHANGE TO ALLOW THEM TO COMMENCE PROCEEDINGS ON OR BEFORE
THEY TURN 55 YEARS OF AGE.
I AM HAPPY THAT THIS BILL WOULD ALSO HOLD INSTITUTIONS,
BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC, ACCOUNTABLE FOR CONCEALING EVIDENCE
PERTAINING TO SEX ABUSE OF A CHILD. THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS THE ONLY
VEHICLE OF WHICH THERE IS FAIR AND JUST AVENUES WHEN A VICTIM -- SO THAT
VICTIMS CAN BE VINDICATED WITHOUT THE FEAR OF RETALIATION OR BIASNESS.
IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE THAT YOUNG CHILD THAT WAS
VIOLATED AND ABUSED. YOU ARE HARMED IN WAYS YOU CANNOT YET
ARTICULATE, NOT EVEN AWARE OF HOW YOU CAN EVEN DEFEND YOURSELF AND
UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF WHAT SEXUAL ABUSE IS UNTIL YOU GET A LITTLE
BIT OLDER IN LIFE. NOW, WHEN YOU DO FINALLY LEARN, YOU BURY IT DEEP.
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YOU'RE ASHAMED. YOU ARE EMBARRASSED. YOU'RE RESENTFUL. YOU FEEL
ALONE. YOU HOPE IT GOES AWAY, BUT IT NEVER DOES. IT NEVER DOES. I
KNOW THAT BECAUSE I, MYSELF, WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED AS A CHILD, A VICTIM.
I WAS AFRAID FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO COME FORWARD FOR THE RISK OF BEING
BLAMED FOR MY OWN PAIN. AT TEN YEARS OLD, A PASTOR TOUCHED ME. THE
ONE WHO PRAYED ON ME, FOR ME WHILE I WAS RECOVERING FROM A MAJOR
ACCIDENT THAT ALMOST TOOK MY LIFE, A CAR HITTING ME AND I WAS
BEDRIDDEN. I WAS VULNERABLE. I FELT UGLY AND I WAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE AS
A RESULT. I WAS TAUGHT TO BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD AND AS A HAITIAN LITTLE
GIRL, I WAS TOLD THAT ADULTS SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS
RIGHT. MY BIGGEST FEAR, THOUGH, WAS THAT NOTHING WOULD BE DONE ABOUT
IT, SO I REMAINED SILENT FOR YEARS.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, I WAS CERTAINLY
NOT ALONE IN MY SUFFERINGS. ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR
VICTIMS OF CRIME, ONE-IN-FIVE GIRLS AND ONE-IN-20 BOYS UNDER THE AGE
OF 18 EXPERIENCE SEXUAL ABUSE. ABOUT 60,000 CASES ARE REPORTED EACH
YEAR AND ACCORDING TO A 2003 NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE REPORT,
THREE-OUT-OF-FOUR ADOLESCENTS WHO HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED WERE
VICTIMIZED BY SOMEONE THEY KNEW WELL. EVERY 11 MINUTES CHILD
PROTECTIVE SERVICES SUBSTANTIATES A CRIME -- A CLAIM OF CHILD ABUSE.
MR. SPEAKER, THIS BILL IS A MUST BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO
ALL THE VICTIMS WHO HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED AS A CHILD. THE PASSING
OF THIS BILL MEANS A VICTORY FOR THEM, IT MEANS A VICTORY FOR ME. WE
ARE TELLING EVERYONE THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE. IT ALSO TELLS US WHENEVER
WE'RE READY, THAT NOW THERE'LL BE LAW THAT WILL BRING US JUSTICE FOR OUR
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PAIN. I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO THANK MARGE MARKEY FOR FIGHTING THIS ISSUE
IN THE ASSEMBLY FOR MANY YEARS, 13 YEARS, AND NOW MY COLLEAGUE,
LINDA ROSENTHAL. I WANT TO THANK THEM. I DO WANT TO THANK MY GOOD
FRIEND, MARK MEYER APPEL, WHO IS HERE WHO HAS BEEN FIGHTING THIS
ISSUE, AS WELL, AND HAS BEEN A STAUNCH LEADER ON THIS ISSUE. I WANT TO
THANK ALL THE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ABUSE WHO HAVE COME FORWARD. I WANT
TO THANK AND CONTINUE TO PRAY ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SILENT AND BE
THANKFUL FOR ALL THE ADVOCATES WHO STAND WITH THEM.
SO TODAY, MR. SPEAKER, I STAND WITH STRONG CONVICTION
AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL, THE CHILD VICTIMS ACT, TO BECOME
LAW. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MS. NIOU.
MS. NIOU: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING
ME TO HAVE A FEW MOMENTS TO SPEAK ON THE BILL. I DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS
A LOT, AND I THINK THAT THE LIST OF NAMES THAT LINDA HAD READ OFF ARE A
FEW OF THE BRAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE WILLING TO STEP UP AND TO SPEAK
ABOUT THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES. UNFORTUNATELY, I HEARD MY COLLEAGUE, AS
WELL, IS AN ADDITION TO THAT LIST AND I WANTED TO TELL MY FRIENDS HERE THAT
I'M ALSO AN ADDITION TO THAT LIST. I WAS 13-YEARS-OLD, AND IT WAS A
TEACHER. AND I CAN STILL SMELL HIM, I CAN STILL SMELL WHAT HE SMELLS
LIKE. AND I TOLD PEOPLE IN MY CONFERENCE LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE
ABOUT TO SPEAK ON THE BILL ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I LIKE TO BRING UP BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S
SO SHAMEFUL AND SO HORRIBLE AND SO TRAUMATIC OF AN EXPERIENCE TO ME,
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TO MANY OF THE OTHER VICTIMS THAT IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD TO BRING UP. IT'S
REALLY HARD TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR MANY, MANY REASONS.
I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A
ATTACK ON ANY INSTITUTION, THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON ANYBODY ELSE. THIS IS
TO PROTECT VICTIMS. IT'S TO PROTECT CHILDREN AND IT'S ALSO TO HELP TO MAKE
SOMEBODY FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE WHOLE AGAIN BECAUSE, IN REALITY, THE
ONLY REASON WHY I EVEN SPOKE UP AGAIN ABOUT THIS FOR ME IS BECAUSE I
FOUND OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO PREYED ON ME TOOK ADVANTAGE OF ANOTHER
GIRL. AND THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN SPEAK UP.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT IT MATTERS. THAT IT
MATTERS TO PEOPLE, YOUR STORY, IT MATTERS TO PEOPLE THAT THERE'S A LIST OF
NAMES, THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE. THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE LAW
DOESN'T CARE ABOUT, THAT OUR GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT, THAT OUR
FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES HERE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT. AND THE REASON WHY I
CHOSE TO SPEAK ON THE BILL IS BECAUSE INSTEAD OF JUST EXPLAINING MY
VOTE, I HOPE TO TURN A FEW OF YOUR VOTES. I HOPE THAT I CONVINCE SOME
OF YOU THAT MAYBE, MAYBE THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, TO MAKE SURE
THAT MORE AND MORE -- WE HAVE AWARENESS, THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR
CHILDREN AND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LISTENING, WE'RE
LISTENING TO ALL OF THE NAMES. WE'RE LISTENING TO ALL OF THE VOICES THAT
ARE CRYING OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTED.
THERE'S NOT A SINGLE DAY THAT THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ME.
THERE'S NOT A SINGLE TIME WHEN I'VE DATED SOMEBODY AND IT'S BEEN
NORMAL. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE TIME WHERE MY RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE
ARE NOT AFFECTED. I NEVER SPEAK ON THIS BILL FOR THIS REASON, BECAUSE I
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LITERALLY CAN'T STOP SHAKING. AND SO, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW
THAT YOUR VOTE IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME AND SO IMPORTANT TO THOSE VICTIMS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY THE
SENATE -- ON A MOTION BY MS. ROSENTHAL, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE
HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED. READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MS. SIMON TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.
MS. SIMON: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I, TOO, WANT
TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR FOR PUSHING THIS BILL FORWARD AND ALSO TO
EXPRESS MY VERY DEEP GRATITUDE TO THE ORIGINAL SPONSOR OF THIS
LEGISLATION, ASSEMBLYMEMBER MARGE MARKEY, FOR HER VISION, HER
PERSISTENCE AND HER GUTS IN LEADING THIS CHARGE WHEN THERE WAS NOBODY
FOLLOWING. I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY EVERLASTING THANKS TO THE MANY
SURVIVORS WHO HAVE ADVOCATED WITH SUCH HEART AND SOUL FOR THE PAST
DECADE OR MORE. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT YOUR COURAGE,
AND TODAY'S VICTORY IS YOURS.
THE CHILD VICTIMS ACT SAYS LOUDLY AND CLEARLY THAT
NEW YORK KNOWS RIGHT FROM WRONG. NEW YORK KNOWS THAT CHILD
SEXUAL ABUSE AND ASSAULT IS WRONG AND THAT THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR
COVERING IT UP OR KICKING THE CAN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE EVERY
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KICK THAT THAT CAN -- TO THAT CAN HAS BEEN TWO KICKS IN THE GUT OF EVERY
SURVIVOR WHO HAS PRAYED FOR THE RELIEF THAT THIS LAW WILL PROVIDE. LET
US BE CLEAR, THIS LEGISLATION IS A VERY REASONABLE RESPONSE TO AN
UNREASONABLE SITUATION THAT HAS PLAGUED OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY FOR
YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE COVERED THIS UP FOR
DECADES AND HAVE HIRED AND HARBORED PERPETRATORS WHO HAVE OFTEN
SOUGHT OUT THE VERY ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO
CHILDREN THAT THEY CAN ABUSE AND INTIMIDATE INTO NOT TELLING. THESE
INSTITUTIONS HAVE FED THE METASTASIZING OF THIS CANCER ON OUR SOCIETY,
AND TODAY WE SAY NO MORE. PERPETRATORS AND THE INSTITUTIONS WHICH
EMPLOY THEM ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ESCAPE BECAUSE THEY MANAGED TO AID
AND ABUSE FOR SO LONG.
IN STATES WHERE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR THESE
CRIMES AND THESE CIVIL PENALTIES HAVE BEEN GREATLY RELAXED, WHICH IS
MOST STATES, THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN OPENING OF THE FLOODGATES.
INSTITUTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN BANKRUPTED PAYING DAMAGE AWARDS. SO MY
COLLEAGUES WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE HISTORY. WE HAVE A
RECORD IN THESE OTHER STATES GRAPPLING WITH THIS ISSUE AND FLOODGATES
HAVE NOT OPENED.
FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WHILE MUCH OF
THE DEBATE HAS CENTERED AROUND ACTORS WHO OPERATE WITHIN INSTITUTIONS,
WHETHER IT'S A CHURCH OR A SCHOOL OR A YESHIVA, THE GREATEST NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO SEXUALLY VIOLATE CHILDREN ARE MEMBERS OF FAMILIES, OR
NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE CHILDREN. THESE ARE PEOPLE
THAT ARE IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. IT IS ALL AROUND US AND IT NEEDS TO BE
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ROOTED OUT.
SO, IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING
BY VICTIMS AND THAT WE HOLD ABUSERS ACCOUNTABLE. AND I WOULD JUST
SAY THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE, AS YOU'VE HEARD, AND MEMBERS HERE
THAT YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IN THEIR
CHILDHOOD. AND, TODAY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE, ONCE AGAIN, IN
THE AFFIRMATIVE AND FOR THE LAST TIME. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. CRUZ.
MS. CRUZ: MR. SPEAKER, ON THE -- BEAR WITH ME.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I'VE
ALWAYS SAID THAT AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT IS MY DUTY TO HONOR AND GIVE
VOICE TO THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT ONE. IT'S TAKEN ME YEARS AND
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I PUBLICLY SPEAK ABOUT MY STORY. BECAUSE THERE
MAY BE NO GREATER ACT BEFORE US THIS SESSION AS ELECTEDS THEN TO SPEAK
ABOUT OUR OWN TRUTH WHEN OUR COMMUNITIES CAN'T.
I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY NOT ONLY FOR ME, BUT FOR
COUNTLESS OF SURVIVORS LIKE ME WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS BILL. I
MYSELF WAS A SURVIVOR OF CHILDHOOD SEXUAL ABUSE BY A FAMILY MEMBER
AND ON BEHALF OF SURVIVORS, I WANT TO THANK THE ORIGINAL SPONSORS, AS
WELL AS THE CURRENT SPONSOR, FOR NEVER GIVING UP ON GETTING US JUSTICE. I
ALSO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR COURAGE IN TELLING THEIR
STORIES. THERE ARE MANY OF US, AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM FOLKS
LIKE US THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE. I KNOW ALL TOO WELL THE EVERYDAY PAIN,
THE TRAUMA AND THE DESPAIR OF SURVIVORS. WE ENDURE PHYSICAL AND
EMOTIONAL SCARS, AND SUBSEQUENT MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AND AN
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INCREASED RISK OF SELF-HARMING BEHAVIORS, INCLUDING SUICIDE AND
SUBSTANCE ABUSE. FOR MANY SURVIVORS, IT IS A DAILY STRUGGLE TO LEAD
NORMAL LIVES. IT TAKES MANY OF US YEARS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WHAT WE'VE
ENDURED, YEARS OF THERAPY AND EVEN NOW WHEN WE CHOOSE TO SEEK
JUSTICE, OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WOULD LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO DO SO. AND
TODAY'S BILL CAN BEGIN TO RIGHT THE WRONGS OF THE PAST FOR SO MANY.
IT IS AN EXPERIENCE THAT CAN NEVER BE FORGIVEN OR
FORGOTTEN. THIS BILL WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE ABILITY OF
SURVIVORS TO PURSUE BOTH CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND CIVIL REMEDIES. BY
BROADENING THE TIMEFRAMES TO DO SO, JUSTICE CAN FINALLY BE REALIZED AT
EVERY LEVEL FOR US. THIS IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF LITTLE GIRLS AND LITTLE BOYS
EVERYWHERE. OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THEM, NOT TO PROTECT AN INSTITUTION OR
ANY INSTITUTION THAT HAS FRANKLY DONE TOO LITTLE TOO LATE. ACCORDINGLY,
MR. SPEAKER, ON BEHALF OF SURVIVORS EVERYWHERE, I CAST MY VOTE IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. CRUZ IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MS. WALKER.
MS. WALKER: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR
ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST REITERATE A FEW WORDS OF OPRAH
WINFREY: "YOUR TIME IS UP." AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL REPRESENTS
TODAY. FOR TOO LONG, SO MANY INDIVIDUALS HAVE HAD TO REMAIN IN THE
SHADOWS OF THE ABUSES THAT THEY'VE UNDERGONE AS CHILDREN BASED ON
TIME LIMITS AND TIME CONSTRAINTS WITHIN THE LAW. I'M PROUD TODAY TO BE
ABLE TO COMMEND MY SUPPORT NOT ONLY FOR THE SPONSOR, BUT FOR THE
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PREVIOUS SPONSORS AND ALSO TO THE SPEAKER FOR COURAGEOUSLY BRINGING
THIS BILL TO A VOTE.
THERE WAS A RECENT INCIDENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN MY
COMMUNITY WHERE IT WAS A -- IT WAS REPORTED THAT A BROOKLYN PASTOR
HAD BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSING HIS OWN DAUGHTER IN A CHURCH FROM THE AGE
OF NINE THROUGH THE AGE OF 14. AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CRYING OUT JUST
RECENTLY, "JUSTICE FOR IMANI." SO, ON BEHALF OF YOUNG IMANI AND ALL OF
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HAVING THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY, IT'S A PROUD
MOMENT.
AND AS I WAS READING THROUGH SOME OF THE
INFORMATION ABOUT VICTIMS OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE, IT SAYS THAT THESE
CHILDREN ARE FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP SYMPTOMS OF DRUG
ABUSE, MORE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE PTSD AS ADULTS, MORE LIKELY TO
EXPERIENCE A MASSIVE DEPRESSIVE EPISODE, MORE LIKELY TO EXHIBIT THIS
BEHAVIOR TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE, MORE LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN PERPETRATED
UPON BY A PARENT OR A RELATIVE, MORE LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED.
BUT TODAY, I BELIEVE THAT THE STORIES WE'VE HEARD OF SO MANY
COURAGEOUS WOMEN HERE ON THIS FLOOR ALLOWS ME TO SAY TO YOUNG IMANI
THAT YOUR FUTURE IS BRIGHT AND THAT THERE IS A COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT
THROUGHOUT THIS STATE WHO KNOWS YOUR PAIN, KNOWS YOUR STORY AND WILL
BE BIG SISTERS AND AUNTS TO YOU AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR PROCESS. THANK
YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. WALKER IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MR. TAYLOR.
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MR. TAYLOR: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR GIVING
ME AN OPPORTUNITY. I'VE LISTENED. I'VE HEARD A LOT, STATISTICS, AND ONE OF
MOST RESOUNDING THINGS AS I LOOK AROUND AND I SEE MY COLLEAGUES STAND
UP ONE BY ONE OR MAKE REFERENCE, IT -- IT REMINDS THAT WE'VE NOT YET
ARRIVED IN THIS BILL WHEN PASSED WILL GIVE VOICE TO SO MANY THAT FELT AND
BELIEVED THAT THEIR VOICE DIDN'T MATTER. AND LIKE SO MANY OF MY
COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE STOOD AND SAID, AS A CHILD I WAS ABUSED, AND I
EXPERIENCED WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE INCARCERATED, WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO
LOOK TO DRUGS AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO FIND
MY IDENTITY AND IT WASN'T UNTIL FINISHING UP MY MASTER'S THAT I WAS ABLE
TO STAND AND TALK ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY BECAUSE IT WAS A FAMILY MEMBER,
BUT IT LEAVES YOU WITH SUCH A STATE OF SHOCK IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT IS
YOUR FAULT AND OR THAT YOU DON'T MATTER, OR YOU'RE NOT WHO YOU THINK
YOU ARE OR WHAT OTHERS THINK YOU ARE, BUT THE TOTAL IS YOU ARE WHOLE AND
I THINK THIS ALLOWS YOU TO WALK IN THAT WHOLENESS WHEN YOU SAY NEW
YORK STATE CARES NOT ONLY ABOUT THOSE THAT CAN HAVE A VOICE AND WALK
IN AND LOBBY, BUT FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN THE SHADOWS. AND I WOULD
SUSPECT SOMEWHERE IN SOME OTHER ADMINISTRATION AND LEGISLATIVE HALL,
THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE MY STORY OR SIMILARITIES, BECAUSE AS
YOU CAN SEE, IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT YOUR ECONOMICAL STATUS OR YOUR SEX
OR YOUR ETHNICITY. WHEN IT COMES TO BEING ABUSED, EVERYONE IS
POSSIBLY A CANDIDATE.
SO, I STAND AND I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES FOR
INTRODUCING, I'M THANKING THEM FOR NOT GIVING UP ON THIS AND I HAD NO
IDEA THAT I WOULD STAND AND TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH
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I'VE SAID IT PUBLICLY, I WASN'T SURE I WANTED TO SAY IT IN THIS ROOM.
BECAUSE THERE'S STILL THIS EDGE OF WELL, YOU KNOW... AND I LISTENED TO
DARRYL THIS AFTERNOON FROM RUN DMC AND HE TALKED ABOUT -- THIS
MORNING, ABOUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO NOT HAVE HIS PARENTS AND PEOPLE
SAID, OH, HE'S ADOPTED, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL THIS STIGMA THAT PEOPLE WILL
SAY AND USE EVEN WHEN YOU'RE BEING TOTALLY TRANSPARENT.
BUT I THINK TODAY WE SEND A MESSAGE THAT SAYS I DON'T
CARE WHO YOU ARE IN THIS STATE. WE NOT ONLY CARE ABOUT YOU, WE LOVE
YOU AND WE'RE GOING TO STEP INTO SOME TERRITORY THAT HAS BEEN LONG
OVERDUE. SO, I STAND TO SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES AND I'M IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. TAYLOR IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MR. ORTIZ.
MR. ORTIZ: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING
ME TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN TO THANK ALL THE
ADVOCATES THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WILL COME TO ALBANY TO -- TO SEE
THIS DAY TO COME THROUGH AND TO BE A REALITY. AND IT'S THE DAY HAS
COME. FINALLY, WE ARE HERE. FINALLY, WE ARE MAKING THE DIFFERENCE.
FINALLY, FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GREAT BILLS COMING
TO THE FLOOR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN PROBABLY MY WHOLE 20 YEARS BEEN IN
OFFICE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A SENATE THAT FINALLY GET IT. WE DO HAVE
PEOPLE THAT REALLY ARE MORE COMMITTED THAN OTHERS THAT FINALLY, WE'RE
GETTING TO THE FINISH LINE TO GET THE PROTECTIONS THAT OUR CHILDREN REALLY
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NEED.
AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE -- OUR RESPONSIBILITY
SOMETIMES IS TO MAKE THE IMPOSSIBLE TO BE POSSIBLE AND TO MAKE TOUGH
DECISIONS IN ISSUE THAT SOMETIMES MIGHT HAVE SOME REPERCUSSION WHEN
WE GO BACK HOME TO OUR DISTRICTS. BUT THE GREAT THING TODAY IS THAT WE
ARE PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. OUR CHILDREN SHOULD FEEL SAFE AND
PROTECTED WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO SCHOOL, WHEN THEY GO TO CHURCH, WHEN
THEY GO TO PLAY IN THE SOCCER LEAGUE, IN THE BASEBALL LEAGUES, PLAY
BASKETBALL, GO TO THE CAMP. THEY NEED TO BE PROTECTED AND THEY NEED
TO FEEL THAT FINALLY, THEY WILL HAVE THE PROTECTION THAT THEY NEED,
ESPECIALLY ANYWHERE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS AGO IT WAS STATED THAT THE
POPE MAKE THIS BIG ANNOUNCEMENT AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS THE TIME
FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CHILDREN THAT HAS BEEN VIOLATED, THEIR RIGHTS,
THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE NOW THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TO COME OUT NOT
ONLY TO EXPLAIN AND TO REALLY KEEP UP THEIR STORY, BUT TO SERVE AS A VOICE
TO OTHERS THAT THIS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTABLE. THEREFORE, MR. SPEAKER, I
AM VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. ORTIZ IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MRS. ARROYO.
MRS. ARROYO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR
GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. FIRST OF ALL, I THANK AND
CONGRATULATE OUR SPEAKER. GOD BLESS YOU. I THINK THAT TODAY, TODAY
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WE'RE SENDING A MESSAGE THAT SHOULD BE PUBLIC. I THINK THAT THIS BILL
SHOULD BE ANNOUNCED ALL OVER THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND OUT OF THE
BOUNDARIES OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
ABUSING CHILDREN AT THIS VERY MOMENT SHOULD KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE
DOING IS A CRIME. AND ALSO, CHILDREN SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CRIME
HAVE TO BE PUNISHED. AND WE -- AS A MEMBER OF THIS ASSEMBLY, WITH
THE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE IN MY LIFE AND THE YEARS THAT I WORK IN MY
COMMUNITY, I WILL NEED THE WHOLE NIGHT TO TELL YOU THE EXPERIENCE THAT
I HAVE ON THIS -- IN THIS SUBJECT.
BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT NOW GOD IS GIVING US
OPPORTUNITY AS LEGISLATORS TO PASS THE LAW THAT WILL PROTECT OUR PEOPLE,
OUR CHILDREN, AND THE LAW THAT CAN BE PASSED BECAUSE WE HAVE A SENATE
THAT IS WITH US AND WE HAVE TO THANKS GOD FOR THAT. MR. SPEAKER, GOD
BLESS YOU, BECAUSE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS YOU HAVE MADE US REAL, REAL
ELECTED OFFICIALS. NOW WE ARE DOING OUR JOB AND, TOGETHER, WE ARE
SENDING A MESSAGE ALL OVER THE STATE OF NEW YORK. THANK YOU. MY
VOTE IS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. ARROYO IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MR. MOSLEY.
MR. MOSLEY: TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE, MR. SPEAKER.
FOR TEN-PLUS YEARS, 15 YEARS TO BE EXACT, MY COLLEAGUE, THE BILL SPONSOR
AND OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, FORMER MEMBER, MARGE MARKEY, HAVE TOILED
IN THE VINEYARDS. AND THROUGHOUT THIS DEBATE, WE'VE HEARD SUCH WORDS
AS "EXPOSURE" AND "BANKRUPTCY" TO THE INSTITUTIONS. BUT THE ONE THING
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WE CAN'T FORGET ARE THE VICTIMS, ARE THE VICTIMS, ARE THE VICTIMS. WE DO
IT FOR THE LITTLE BOYS AND LITTLE GIRLS WHO HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED. WE DO
IT FOR THE YOUNG MEN AND THE YOUNG WOMEN. WE DO IT FOR THOSE WHO
HAVE MATRICULATED THROUGH THEIR LIVES HAVING TO CARRY THIS BURDEN, THIS
SCARLET LETTER THAT NONE OF US CAN SEE, BUT THEY CAN FEEL EACH AND EVERY
DAY.
I THANK THE SPEAKER FOR ALLOWING THIS TO BE A PART OF
THE BEGINNING OF THIS SESSION. AND AS IT HAS BEEN THE THEME THUS FAR,
WE ARE TURNING TO A MORE PERFECT UNION EACH AND EVERY DAY. NOT BY
WHAT WE SAY OR WHAT WE LABEL OURSELVES, BUT BY THE SOCIAL PROGRESS
WE'RE MAKING THROUGH THE PUBLIC POLICIES WE'RE PASSING HERE IN THIS
HOUSE AND DOWN THE HALL. SO, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE ADVOCATES.
I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, BUT MORE
IMPORTANTLY, I WANT US TO REMEMBER THE VICTIMS, FOR THIS IS THE BILL THAT
SPEAKS TO THEM. THE VICTIMS, THE VICTIMS, THE VICTIMS AND I'M PROUDLY
SUPPORTING THIS BILL AND VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. MOSLEY IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MR. PHILLIP STECK.
MR. STECK: I'LL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND
JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT I, OF COURSE, AGREE WITH ALL THE
PROVISIONS, SAVE ONE. I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING IS A [SIC] OUTSTANDING
JOB OF SUPPORTING THOSE WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THEIR
STORY AND TO GET JUSTICE ON THIS ISSUE; HOWEVER, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IT
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WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WITH ALL THE PUBLICITY SURROUNDING THIS AND ALL
THE SUPPORT GROUPS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO COME
TO TERMS WITH IT AND ADDRESS IT, TO ALLOW SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE
25-YEARS-OLD TODAY TO BRING A LAWSUIT LATER WHEN THEY'RE 55 FOR
COMPLEX REASONS THAT MIGHT BE VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, IT JUST
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
I DON'T ACCEPT THE PROPOSITION THAT THE COURTS SOLVE ALL
PROBLEMS. EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN IN THE COURTS KNOWS THAT'S NOT TRUE.
SO, I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING HERE, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
HYSTERIA OVER CHILD ABUSE. WE HAD ALL THE MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL CASES
AND ALL THAT WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE HOAXES. WE HAVE OVERZEALOUS
PROSECUTORS WHO OFTENTIMES USE THINGS AS A VEHICLE TO SUPPORT THEIR
POLITICAL AMBITIONS.
SO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I SUPPORT EXTENDING THE
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS AND, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL COME TO THE POINT AS A
SOCIETY WHERE WE WON'T NEED TO OPEN IT UP TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO WAIT 30
YEARS BEFORE THEY MAKE THEIR CLAIM. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. STECK IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MS. LINDA ROSENTHAL TO CLOSE.
MS. ROSENTHAL: THANK YOU, TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
IF YOU COUNT THE PAST 13 YEARS, ROUGHLY HALF-A-MILLION CHILDREN IN OUR
STATE HAVE BEEN ABUSED. IF THAT NUMBER SOUNDS UNTHINKABLE, CONSIDER
MORE SIMPLY THAT ONE-IN-FOUR GIRLS AND ONE-IN-SEVEN BOYS ARE ABUSED
IN OUR STATE EVERY YEAR. WE HOPE THAT THOSE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE
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DRAMATICALLY WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL INTO LAW.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE JUST A COUPLE MORE
PEOPLE AND GROUPS THAT I DIDN'T GET TO: THE STOP ABUSE CAMPAIGN,
NYSCASA, NEW YORK LOVES KIDS, NYSCADV, FOUNDATION FOR
SURVIVORS OF ABUSE, SYDNEY ZACA (PHONETIC), VOICE OF THE FAITHFUL,
CALL TO ACTION, KULVAOS (PHONETIC), NEW YORKERS AGAINST HIDDEN
PREDATORS, NASW, NEW YORK CHILDREN'S ALLIANCE, CITIZENS COMMITTEE
FOR CHILDREN, NEW YORK SOCIETY FOR THE PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO
CHILDREN, SAFE HORIZON AND MICHAEL POLENBERG. AND THE PERSON WHO
LED OUR GROUP, THE PERSON WHO HERSELF IS A SURVIVOR AND PUT ASIDE A LOT
OF HER PAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL SURVIVORS GET JUSTICE THROUGH THE CHILD
VICTIMS ACT, JESSICA SCHAFROTH. AND WITH THAT, I VOTE -- I VOTE IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
ARE THERE -- ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE
RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
(APPLAUSE)
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02693, RULES REPORT
NO. 26, DINOWITZ. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO
SIGNATURES FOR CERTAIN PARTY POSITIONS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF
SUCH PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ACTING SPEAKER JONES: ARE THERE ANY OTHER
VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02851, RULES REPORT
NO. 27, LAVINE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN
RELATION TO ALLOWING CERTAIN SPECIAL ASSESSING UNITS OTHER THAN CITIES TO
ADJUST THEIR CURRENT BASE PROPORTIONS, ADJUSTED BASE PROPORTIONS FOR
ASSESSMENT ROLLS, AND THE BASE PROPORTION IN APPROVED ASSESSING UNITS
IN NASSAU COUNTY.
ACTING SPEAKER JONES: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER JONES: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ACTING SPEAKER DILAN: ARE THERE ANY OTHER
VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. THIS WILL BE OUR LAST VOTE OF THE DAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
SO IF WE CAN HAVE YOUR FULL UNDIVIDED ATTENTION. WE'RE GOING TO BE ON
RULES CALENDER NO. 28 BY ZEBROWSKI, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS
AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE A HOSTILE AMENDMENT, MR. SPEAKER, SO IF MEMBERS
COULD PLEASE REMAIN IN THE CHAMBER SO WE CAN GET THIS DONE, I'D
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02852, RULES REPORT
NO. 28, ZEBROWSKI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN
RELATION TO THE EXTENSION FOR PAYMENT OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES BY
FURLOUGHED OR DESIGNATED NON-PAY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.
ZEBROWSKI, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS
ADVANCED.
THERE IS AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. MR. RA TO BRIEFLY
EXPLAIN THE AMENDMENT WHILE THE CHAIR EXAMINES IT.
MR. RA.
MR. RA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I OFFER THE
FOLLOWING AMENDMENT, WAIVE ITS READING, MOVE ITS IMMEDIATE ADOPTION
AND REQUEST THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEFLY EXPLAIN IT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: PLEASE EXPLAIN.
MR. RA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS AMENDMENT
REPEALS THE EXPIRATION DATE OF AND MAKES THE REAL PROPERTY TAX CAP
PERMANENT. PRIOR TO THE REAL PROPERTY TAX CAP, REAL PROPERTY TAXES IN
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NEW YORK STATE GREW ON AVERAGE BY OVER 5 PERCENT PER YEAR FROM
2001 TO 2011. IN 2011, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A TEMPORARY REAL
PROPERTY TAX CAP THAT LIMITS THE PROPERTY TAX GROWTH TO 2 PERCENT OR THE
RATE OF INFLATION, WHICHEVER IS LESS. IN HIS ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, GOVERNOR
CUOMO'S INTENT WAS TO MAKE THE PROPERTY TAX CAP PERMANENT; HOWEVER,
THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS, THE CAP WAS LINKED TO RENT REGULATIONS WITH
MATCHING EXPIRATION DATES. OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS, THE REAL PROPERTY
TAX CAP HAS SAVED NEW YORKERS OVER $20 BILLION.
NOW, I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT RATHER
THAN A HOSTILE AMENDMENT AS OUR FRIENDS DOWN THE HALL IN THE SENATE
ADOPTED THIS VERY LANGUAGE JUST THIS PAST WEEK, AND I WOULD URGE THIS
HOUSE TO ADOPT THIS BILL, AS WELL. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CHAIR HAS
EXAMINED YOUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND FOUND IT NOT GERMANE TO THE
BILL BEFORE THE HOUSE.
MR. RA: I WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL THE RULING OF THE
CHAIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. RA APPEALS THE
DECISION OF THE CHAIR. THE QUESTION BEFORE THE HOUSE IS SHALL THE
DECISION OF THE CHAIR STAND AS THE JUDGMENT OF THE HOUSE? THOSE
VOTING YES VOTE TO SUSTAIN THE RULING OF THE CHAIR; THOSE VOTING NO VOTE
TO OVERRIDE THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR.
THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.
MR. RA.
MR. RA: YES, MAY I JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY I
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BELIEVE THIS TO BE GERMANE, MR. SPEAKER?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: PROCEED.
MR. RA: PURSUANT TO SECTION VI OF PART 3 OF THE
ASSEMBLY RULES, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS GERMANE AS THE
BILL-IN-CHIEF AND THE AMENDMENT DEAL WITH THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER, THE
IMPACT OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES ON RESIDENTS OF THE STATE. THE
AMENDMENT DOES NOT UNDULY EXPAND THE SUBJECT OF THE BILL-IN-CHIEF AND
IS RELEVANT, APPROPRIATE AND A NATURAL AND LOGICAL SEQUENCE OF THE
SUBJECT MATTER PROPOSED IN THE BILL-IN-CHIEF. FURTHERMORE, THIS
AMENDMENT WOULD NOT CHANGE A PRIVATE BILL INTO A GENERAL BILL. THANK
YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: YOU'RE WELCOME.
THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF I MAY. I
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO ACTIONS
THAT OUR FRIENDS OVER IN THE SENATE TOOK ON SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS, BUT
THEIRS ACTUALLY WAS NOT ATTACHED TO ANOTHER BILL. SO, IF WE COULD PLEASE
JUST MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD, OUR MEMBERS SHOULD HONOR YOUR THOUGHTS
THAT THE BILL -- THE AMENDMENT IS NOT GERMANE TO THE BILL IN FRONT OF US.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MEMBERS ARE
REMINDED THAT THE QUESTION BEFORE THE HOUSE IS SHALL THE DECISION OF
THE CHAIR STAND AS THE JUDGMENT OF THE HOUSE. THOSE VOTING YES VOTE
TO SUSTAIN THE RULING OF THE CHAIR; THOSE VOTING NO VOTE TO OVERRIDE THE
DECISION OF THE CHAIR. THANK YOU.
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ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE RULING OF THE CHAIR IS SUSTAINED.
ON THE BILL.
READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. ZEBROWSKI TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. ZEBROWSKI: THANKS, MR. SPEAKER. BRIEFLY,
THIS IS A CHAPTER AMENDMENT TO THE BILL WE HAD PASSED LAST WEEK
HELPING OUT OUR FEDERAL WORKERS WHO WERE FURLOUGHED. IT MAKES SOME
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS THAT MYSELF AND THE STATE ASSEMBLY AND THE
STATE SENATE, IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, ENSURES THAT
THERE'S A STREAMLINED PROCESS FOR WHEN PROPERTY TAXES ARE SENT FROM A
MUNICIPALITY TO A COLLECTING AUTHORITY LIKE A COUNTY, AND IT ALSO CLARIFIES
THAT A PERSON HAS 30 DAYS TO SUBMIT DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE THAT THEY
WERE A FURLOUGHED FEDERAL WORKER.
FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE WONDERING, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S
HAPPENED DOWN IN WASHINGTON WHERE THEY'VE REOPENED THE
GOVERNMENT, MANY OF OUR WORKERS CONTINUE TO HAVE NOT GOTTEN PAID, SO
THIS WILL PROVIDE A PERIOD OF TIME THEREAFTER IF OUR MUNICIPALITIES PASS
THIS TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE AMOUNT OF TIME NECESSARY IN ORDER TO
GET THEIR PROPERTY TAXES DUE AND, OF COURSE, IT'S NOT LOST ON ANYBODY THAT
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THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS OPERATING UNDER A SHORT CONTINUING
RESOLUTION, AND THIS WOULD ALSO PROVIDE SOME SENSE OF PROTECTION TO
THOSE WORKERS SHOULD WE BE IN THE SAME SITUATION WHEN VILLAGE TAXES
BECOME DUE LATER IN THE YEAR, SCHOOL TAXES BECOME DUE LATER IN THE YEAR
AND, OF COURSE, WHEN WE GO BACK THROUGH THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT
YEAR AND IN THE BUDGET.
SO, I WOULD APPRECIATE ALL MY COLLEAGUES' SUPPORT AND
I THINK THAT ALL OUR MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE STATE SHOULD PASS
RESOLUTIONS TO ENSURE THAT ALL THOSE FEDERAL WORKERS CAN BREATHE A LITTLE
BIT EASIER AS THEY TRY TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. BUCHWALD TO
EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. BUCHWALD: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, I'LL BE
VERY BRIEF. JUST TO, FIRST OF ALL, COMMEND THE SPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION
AND, SECOND, TO SAY HOW PLEASED I AM THIS BILL WAS NOT AMENDED EARLIER
TODAY. HAD WE AMENDED IT, IT WOULD HAVE DELAYED RELIEF FOR THOSE
FEDERAL WORKERS WHO WERE FURLOUGHED AND TEMPORARILY UNABLE TO PAY
THEIR BILLS AND PROPERTY TAXES, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE DELAYED
ENACTMENT OF THIS AND THE UNDERLYING LEGISLATION. THESE FEDERAL
WORKERS ARE NOT BEING PAID UNDER THE BEST SITUATION UNTIL LATER THIS
WEEK, AND IT IS CRUCIAL THAT WE AUTHORIZE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS QUICKLY
AS POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE THIS RELIEF TO THEIR LOCAL RESIDENTS.
AND SO I URGE THE EXECUTIVE TO SIGN THIS BILL INTO LAW
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. FRANKLY, THE UNDERLYING LAW SHOULD HAVE BEEN
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SIGNED DAYS AND DAYS AGO. BUT, FINALLY, WE SHOULD BE SENDING IT ON FOR
FULL RELIEF, TEMPORARY AS IT IS, UNDER THE DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES THE
FEDERAL WORKERS OF THIS FINE STATE FACED OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ARE THERE ANY OTHER
VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU
CALL ON MR. OTIS FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. OAKS [SIC] FOR AN
ANNOUNCEMENT. MR --
MR. OTIS: FOLLOWING THE CONCLUSION OF SESSION,
THERE WILL BE A DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE
ROOM.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: DEMOCRATIC
CONFERENCE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING SESSION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO WE
HAVE ANY FURTHER RESOLUTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE CERTAINLY HAVE
NUMEROUS FINE RESOLUTIONS. WE'LL TAKE THEM UP WITH ONE VOTE. ON THE
RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE
RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.
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(WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTIONS NOS. 55-60 WERE
UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: I NOW MOVE THAT THE
ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 10:30, TUESDAY, JANUARY THE 29TH,
TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS
ADJOURNED.
(WHEREUPON, AT 6:02 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD
ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, JANUARY 29TH AT 10:30 A.M., TUESDAY BEING A
SESSION DAY.)
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