WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2020 11:47 A.M.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME
TO ORDER.
IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF
SILENCE.
(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)
VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE.
(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND
MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)
A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE
JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11TH.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO
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DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY
11TH AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WITHOUT OBJECTION,
SO ORDERED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. IF I CAN HAVE COLLEAGUES AND GUESTS IN THE CHAMBER'S
ATTENTION JUST FOR ONE SECOND. I WANT TO SHARE A QUOTE WHO IS FROM
NONE OTHER THAN MATILDA [SIC] HILDA THATCHER, WHO WAS A BRITISH
STATESWOMAN AND SERVED AS PRIME MINISTER OF THE UNITED KINGDOM
FROM 1979 TO 1990. MR. SPEAKER, MRS. THATCHER WAS BORN IN 1925, THE
EXACT SAME YEAR AS MY MOM, AND SHE LEFT US IN 2013. THESE ARE HER
WORDS: "WHERE THERE IS DISCORD, MAY WE BRING HARMONY. WHERE THERE
IS ERROR, MAY WE BRING TRUTH. WHERE THERE IS DOUBT, MAY WE BRING FAITH.
AND WHERE THERE IS DESPAIR, MAY WE BRING HOPE."
WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD ADVISE MEMBERS THAT
THEY HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A MAIN CALENDAR AND A DEBATE LIST. AND AFTER
THERE ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR HOUSEKEEPING, WE WILL CONTINUE OUR
CONSENT WHERE WE LEFT OFF ON YESTERDAY WITH CALENDAR NO. 289 WHICH
IS ON PAGE 47. AND WE WILL ALSO WORK FOR -- FROM THE DEBATE LIST.
THERE IS A NEED FOR A MAJORITY CONFERENCE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
CONCLUSION OF SESSION, AND AS ALWAYS, MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL CHECK WITH
OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO DETERMINE THEIR NEEDS.
THAT'S A GENERAL OUTLINE, MR. SPEAKER. IF THERE ARE ANY
INTRODUCTIONS OR HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: A FEW PIECES OF
HOUSEKEEPING.
ON A MOTION BY MS. ROZIC, PAGE 38, CALENDAR NO.
218, BILL NO. A.5661, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.
ON A MOTION BY MS. WOERNER, PAGE 50, CALENDAR NO.
308, BILL NO. A.8078-B, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION, MR. TAGUE.
MR. TAGUE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. PRESERVING
THE PAST GIVES US A WINDOW INTO A WORLD WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE, AND WE
ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE IT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. THIS MONUMENTAL
DISCOVERY OF A 385 MILLION-YEAR-OLD PREHISTORIC FOREST IS A TREASURE
TROVE OF BOTH VALUABLE SCIENTIFIC DATA AND A GREAT TOURIST DRAW TO OUR
AREA. THE CATSKILL DELTA FOREST IS A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME FIND. THESE FINE
FOLKS THAT ARE HERE WITH ME TODAY ARE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT WE
PRESERVE IT FOR STUDY AND FOR THE AWE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS.
LATER TODAY, I HOPE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU
WILL JOIN ME IN PASSING A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THIS 385-YEAR-OLD [SIC]
PREHISTORIC FOREST. MR. SPEAKER, I ASK YOU AND MY COLLEAGUES TO PLEASE
JOIN ME IN WELCOMING MR. JOHN COYNE, SUPERVISOR OF THE TOWN OF
CAIRO IN GREENE COUNTY, AND MR. PAT LINGER, GREENE COUNTY
LEGISLATIVE CHAIR.
MR. SPEAKER, PLEASE EXTEND ALL THE PRIVILEGES AND
CORDIALITIES OF THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE TO OUR FINE GUESTS. THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. TAGUE, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU HERE
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TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE
FLOOR, COMMEND YOU ON THE PUBLIC SERVICE THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING TO
YOUR COMMUNITIES, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO
PRESERVE THIS HISTORIC --
(PAUSE)
-- RIGHT. THANK YOU, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THANK YOU.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. SCHMITT.
MR. SCHMITT: MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS TO MAKE AN INTRODUCTION
FROM THE WONDERFUL 99TH ASSEMBLY DISTRICT. I'M PROUD TO HAVE RETIRED
EMT CAPTAIN MARTY BYRNES AND HER FAMILY HERE. YOU GUYS WANT TO
STAND UP? A WONDERFUL FAMILY FROM THE TOWN OF HIGHLANDS IN ORANGE
COUNTY. CAPTAIN RETIRED THIS YEAR AFTER 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. SHE'S
JOINED BY HUSBAND, CHRIS; HER CHILDREN, AARON FALK, WHO IS ALSO A
MEMBER OF THE AMBULANCE CORPS, AS WELL AS HIS WIFE, STACY; RYAN,
WHO IS THE ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR FORT MONTGOMERY FIRE DEPARTMENT; AND
WE ALSO HAVE NANCY AND SEVERAL GRANDCHILDREN, MARTY'S GRANDCHILDREN
ARE HERE. MARTY RETIRED JANUARY 10TH OF THIS YEAR AFTER 20 YEARS AS A
VOLUNTEER MEMBER. SHE IS A LIFE MEMBER. SHE'S RESPONDED WITH GREAT
PASSION, SKILL, COMMITMENT TO OVER 2,600 CALLS IN HER NEARLY -- IN HER
OVER TWO-DECADE TENURE AS AN EMT. A TRUE PUBLIC SERVANT AND HERO.
SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER TWO DECADES FOR ORGANIZING THE TOWN OF
HIGHLANDS FALL FOLIAGE FESTIVAL, WHICH IS THE MAIN FUNDRAISER AND
TOURIST ACTIVITY IN THE TOWN DURING THE FALL. SHE HAS NUMEROUS AWARDS
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AND ACCOLADES OVER HER TWO DECADES OF SERVICE, INCLUDING BEING THE
2009 ORANGE COUNTY EMT OF THE YEAR, THE 2009 REGIONAL EMERGENCY
MEDICAL SERVICES COUNCIL BLS PROVIDER OF THE YEAR, WHICH COVERS
EIGHT COUNTIES, AND THE 2009 NEW YORK STATE VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE
AND RESCUE ASSOCIATION MERITORIOUS SERVICE AWARD. MARTY TRULY IS
THE ICON IN THE COMMUNITY. SHE HAS SAVED LIVES. SHE HAS MADE IT
EASIER FOR FAMILIES TO DEAL WITH TRAGEDY. AND ANYONE WHO KNOWS HER,
ANYONE KNOWS OF HER WORK, THINKS OF HER SERVICE AND HER FAMILY'S
SERVICE WITH PRIDE. AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE SAD TO SEE HER GO, BUT HER
LEGACY WILL LIVE ON FOR GENERATIONS NOT ONLY IN THE EMERGENCY SERVICES
COMMUNITY IN MY DISTRICT, BUT FOR ALL THE LIVES THAT SHE'S TOUCHED.
I ASK THAT YOU WELCOME HER AND HER FAMILY TO THE FLOOR
AND GIVE HER ALL THE CORDIALITIES OF THIS HOUSE FOR HER DEDICATION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. SCHMITT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THIS
EXTRAORDINARY LADY HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. WE ALSO
WELCOME THE FAMILY THAT SUPPORTS YOU, AND CLEARLY, THAT MUST BE
IMPORTANT. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. WE HOPE THAT
YOUR WORK WILL CONTINUE ON INTO THE FUTURE, BUT THAT YOU WILL ENJOY A
WELL-DESERVED REST. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. SEAWRIGHT FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.
MS. SEAWRIGHT: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR
ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN
INTRODUCTION. TODAY WE HAVE THE WOMEN [SIC] BUILDERS COUNCIL WITH
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US IN ALBANY. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THIS ORGANIZATION. IT WORKS TO
PROMOTE WOMEN BUSINESS IN A MALE-DOMINATED FIELD. THE WOMEN
[SIC] BUILDERS COUNCIL IS THE LEADING ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING WOMEN
IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY ON SEVERAL IMPORTANT FRONTS: LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCACY, NEW BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT
WITH A SPECIAL FOCUS ON LEADERSHIP. WITH US TODAY WE HAVE MY DEAR
FRIEND, SANDRA WILKIN, THE CO-FOUNDER OF THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS [SIC]
COUNCIL AND THE PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF BRADFORD CONSTRUCTION;
RENEE SACKS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WOMEN'S BUSINESS [SIC]
COUNCIL; KRISTA GOBINS-WILSON, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL;
AND THE WOMEN [SIC] BUILDERS COUNCIL MEMBERS, PENDA AIKEN,
PRESIDENT OF PENDA AIKEN, INC.; CHRISTINE BOCCIA, EXECUTIVE MANAGER
OF JD TRADITIONAL; STEPHANIE BURNS, VICE PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY AND
CITIZENSHIP OF TURNER CONSTRUCTION COMPANY; LORRAINE D'ANGELO,
PRESIDENT OF LDA COMPLIANCE CONSULTING; EILEEN DELLA VOLLE, VICE
PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AT KS ENGINEERS; FELICE FARBER,
SENIOR DIRECTOR, POLICY AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS AT THE GENERAL
CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION OF NEW YORK; GLORIA KEMPER, PRESIDENT OF
RECON CONSTRUCTION; MALA POPLI, VICE PRESIDENT OF POPLI DESIGN
GROUP; LORYN RIGGIOLA, A PARTNER AT ZETLIN AND DE CHIARA, LLP; AND
ELIZABETH WEISS, PRESIDENT OF AJ MCNULTY AND COMPANY, INC.
MR. SPEAKER, I ASK THAT YOU EXTEND TO THEM THE
CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. SEAWRIGHT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE
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EXTRAORDINARY BUSINESSWOMEN HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.
WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. WE THANK YOU FOR THE
WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO CREATE A NEW SOCIETY, AND NOT ONLY TO BUILD
ONE FOR WOMEN OF ALL KINDS IN THIS STATE, BUT ALSO TO BREAK DOWN THE
BARRIERS THAT WE KNOW YOU HAVE FACED. CONTINUE THAT GREAT WORK. WE
WISH YOU SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER, FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERRUPT OUR PROCEEDINGS TO INTRODUCE
TO SOME AND PRESENT TO OTHERS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THE COUNTY OF
ERIE. SO ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, MEMBER MCMAHON, MEMBER
SCHIMMINGER, MEMBER RYAN, MEMBER WALLACE AND MEMBER BURKE, IF
YOU COULD PLEASE WELCOME MARK POLONCARZ TO OUR CHAMBERS AND GIVE
HIM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER PEOPLES, THE ENTIRE ERIE DELEGATION, SIR, WE
WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. CERTAINLY, OUR CONGRATULATIONS ON THE WORK THAT
YOU'RE DOING IN ERIE COUNTY. WE WISH YOU MUCH SUCCESS IN THAT, AND
ALWAYS KNOW THAT YOU ARE WELCOME HERE IN THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE. THANK
YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. CAHILL FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.
MR. CAHILL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT IS MY
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GREAT HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TODAY TO INTRODUCE, ONCE AGAIN, TO THE
MEMBERS OF THIS BODY A FORMER MEMBER OF THIS BODY. SOMEONE WHO
OVER TWO MILLION NEW YORKERS THOUGHT SHOULD LEAD THE STATE.
SOMEONE WHO GOT THE MAJORITY VOTE IN OVER 40 COUNTIES IN NEW YORK
STATE TO LEAD THIS STATE, AND WHO IS MANY PEOPLE'S SECOND-FAVORITE
ASSEMBLYMAN FROM THE DISTRICT WE HAVE BOTH REPRESENTED. I DO KNOW
THAT HE CAME IN SECOND A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN IT
COMES TO THIS HOUSE, HE GETS 100 PERCENT OF THE VOTE AND HE COMES IN
FIRST. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO WELCOME FORMER MEMBER MARCUS
MOLINARO, COUNTY EXECUTIVE OF DUTCHESS COUNTY.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. CAHILL, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, MARCUS, WELCOME
BACK. YOU ARE A FORMER MEMBER, YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE,
ALWAYS HAVE THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE
YOU NO MATTER WHAT MR. CAHILL SAYS.
(LAUGHTER)
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 761, MR.
FALL. LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW M.
CUOMO TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY, 2020, AS AFRICAN DIASPORA MONTH IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE CAN
START ON PAGE 47 WITH CALENDAR NO. 289 BY MR. ZEBROWSKI.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07796, CALENDAR NO.
289, ZEBROWSKI, WEPRIN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE BANKING LAW, IN
RELATION TO THE DEFINITION OF "SERVICING" BY STUDENT LOAN SERVICERS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT OCTOBER 9,
2020.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, THIS IS OUR
FIRST VOTE OF THE THIRD DAY OF THE SIXTH WEEK OF THE 243RD LEGISLATIVE
SESSION. MEMBERS IN AND AROUND THE CHAMBERS, PLEASE VOTE. FIRST
VOTE OF THE DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY,
MEMBERS. PLEASE COME TO THE CHAMBER AND VOTE. IF YOU'RE IN YOUR
SEATS, PLEASE VOTE NOW.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
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(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
(PAUSE)
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07815-B, CALENDAR
NO. 290, HEVESI, JAFFEE, EPSTEIN, AUBRY, LIFTON, REYES, ROZIC, ORTIZ,
WILLIAMS, CRESPO, SIMON, DE LA ROSA, PRETLOW, MOSLEY, ARROYO,
COLTON, GOTTFRIED, SIMOTAS, FRONTUS, DICKENS, BARRON, BLAKE,
JEAN-PIERRE, FAHY, SAYEGH, L. ROSENTHAL, FERNANDEZ, GLICK, PICHARDO,
PAULIN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW, THE EXECUTIVE LAW
AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING FOR SUPPORTS AND
SERVICES FOR UNACCOMPANIED MINORS WITH NO LAWFUL IMMIGRATION STATUS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07821, CALENDAR NO.
291, ZEBROWSKI, JAFFEE. AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE COMMISSIONER OF
GENERAL SERVICES TO TRANSFER AND CONVEY CERTAIN UNAPPROPRIATED STATE
LAND TO ROCKLAND RECOVERY HOMES, INC.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07901, CALENDAR NO.
292, CAHILL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO USING
DRIVING HISTORY AS A RATING OR UNDERWRITING FACTOR FOR PRIVATE PASSENGER
MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07915-A, CALENDAR
NO. 293, MAGNARELLI, D'URSO, PALMESANO. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC
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HEALTH LAW AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO
ALLOWING DONATE LIFE REGISTRATION WHEN APPLYING FOR OR RENEWING A
HUNTING, FISHING OR TRAPPING LICENSE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IN ONE YEAR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07919, CALENDAR NO.
294, LIPETRI. AN ACT IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE GOOD SAMARITAN
HOSPITAL MEDICAL CENTER TO FILE AN APPLICATION FOR A REAL PROPERTY TAX
EXEMPTION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07933, CALENDAR NO.
296, O'DONNELL, ABINANTI, ENGLEBRIGHT, OTIS, LIFTON, GALEF, GLICK,
WEPRIN, EPSTEIN, STECK, GOTTFRIED, REYES, ORTIZ, D'URSO, GRIFFIN,
JACOBSON, COLTON, CARROLL, SEAWRIGHT, BRAUNSTEIN. AN ACT TO AMEND
THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING THE USE
OF DRILLING FLUIDS, BRINE, AND FLOWBACK WATER FROM WELLS, POOLS OR FIELDS
ON ANY HIGHWAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07936-A, CALENDAR
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NO. 297, ARROYO, BLAKE, REYES, M.G. MILLER, D'URSO, GOTTFRIED,
RIVERA, CRUZ, GLICK. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, IN
RELATION TO PROHIBITING STATE CONTRACTS WITH VENDORS THAT FORBID
EMPLOYEES FROM LITIGATING DISCRIMINATION OF HARASSMENT CLAIMS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. 298 -- I'M SORRY,
ASSEMBLY NO. A07937, CALENDAR NO. 298, WALKER, BLAKE. AN ACT TO
AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE DEFINITION OF "DIRECT
RELATIONSHIP" FOR THE PURPOSES OF ARTICLE 23-A OF THE CORRECTION LAW
REGARDING THE LICENSURE AND EMPLOYMENT OF PERSONS PREVIOUSLY
CONVICTED OF ONE OR MORE CRIMINAL OFFENSES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07959-A, CALENDAR
NO. 299, DARLING. AN ACT TO AMEND THE FAMILY COURT ACT, IN RELATION
TO EXECUTION OF WARRANTS IN JUVENILE DELINQUENCY CASES WHEN FAMILY
COURTS ARE CLOSED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
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THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07970, CALENDAR NO.
300, FRONTUS, BUCHWALD. AN ACT TO AMEND THE FAMILY COURT ACT, IN
RELATION TO VIDEO RECORDING OF INTERROGATIONS OF JUVENILES IN JUVENILE
DELINQUENCY PROCEEDINGS IN FAMILY COURT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07981-A, CALENDAR
NO. 301, WALKER. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN
RELATION TO ISSUANCE OF APPEARANCE TICKETS TO ADOLESCENT OFFENDERS
PENDING APPEARANCES BEFORE YOUTH PARTS OF SUPERIOR COURTS OF CRIMINAL
JURISDICTION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07982, CALENDAR NO.
302, TAYLOR. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN RELATION
TO NOTIFICATION TO, AND ENGAGEMENT OF, PARENTS IN PROCEEDINGS INVOLVING
16- AND 17-YEAR-OLD DEFENDANTS IN YOUTH PARTS IN SUPERIOR COURTS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08021, CALENDAR NO.
303, JAFFEE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE FAMILY COURT ACT, IN RELATION TO
SEALING AND EXPUNGEMENT OF RECORDS IN PERSONS IN NEED OF SUPERVISION
CASES IN THE FAMILY COURT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08023, CALENDAR NO.
304, WILLIAMS. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE-RELATED ACTIVITY OF THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE FOR
THE PREVENTION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ADDING A MEMBER TO THE
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ADVISORY COUNCIL; AND TO REPEAL CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF SUCH LAW RELATING
THERETO.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08025, CALENDAR NO.
305, BUTTENSCHON. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL
LAW, IN RELATION TO TEMPORARY MANUFACTURING PERMITS; AND TO REPEAL
CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF SUCH LAW RELATING THERETO.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08061, CALENDAR NO.
306, WILLIAMS. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO
REQUIRING STATE CONTRACTORS SUBMIT A STATEMENT ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
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(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08070-B, CALENDAR
NO. 307, REYES, ORTIZ, BLAKE, RIVERA, DE LA ROSA, COLTON, FERNANDEZ,
GOTTFRIED, MCDONOUGH, GLICK, RICHARDSON, ROZIC, D'URSO, FALL,
GRIFFIN, CRUZ, HEVESI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION
TO ENACTING THE "HATE CRIMES ANALYSIS AND REVIEW ACT."
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. IF WE COULD CONTINUE OUR WORK NOW ON PAGE 41, CALENDAR
NO. 232 BY MR. MOSLEY, AND IT IS ON DEBATE. SO, MEMBERS CAN PREPARE
THEMSELVES TO HAVE A SEAT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. PLEASE
SETTLE DOWN. MEMBERS, STAFF.
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A06163, CALENDAR NO.
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232, MOSLEY, GALEF, GRIFFIN, REYES, BUCHWALD, DINOWITZ, ZEBROWSKI,
COOK, GOTTFRIED, JAFFEE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW,
IN RELATION TO MANDATORY SEAT BELT USE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS
REQUESTED, MR. MOSLEY.
MR. MOSLEY: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS BILL
WOULD AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAWS THAT REQUIRE THE USE OF SEAT
BELTS BY ALL PASSENGERS 16 YEARS OR OLDER RIDING IN ANY SEATING POSITION
IN A MOTOR VEHICLE. CURRENTLY, OUR LAWS ONLY APPLY TO THOSE WHO ARE 16
-- WELL, LESS THAN 16 YEARS OF AGE, BUT THIS WOULD NOW REQUIRE THAT ALL
PASSENGERS 16 YEARS AND OLDER AND UNDER TO BE IN A SEAT BELT -- IN A
SEATED POSITION WHETHER IN THE FRONT SEAT OR BACK SEAT, TO BE IN A SEAT
BELT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD
THE SPONSOR YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. MOSLEY, WILL YOU
YIELD?
MR. MOSLEY: YES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. MOSLEY YIELDS.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. MOSLEY. I THINK
YOU MENTIONED THIS. CURRENTLY, IF YOU'RE 16 YEARS OR OVER AND YOU'RE IN
THE FRONT OF A CAR, YOU HAVE TO WEAR A SEAT BELT, CORRECT?
MR. MOSLEY: CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: ACTUALLY, IF YOU'RE AGE 8 OR OVER
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YOU HAVE TO WEAR A SEAT BELT REGARDLESS WHERE YOU ARE, CORRECT?
MR. MOSLEY: CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE ARE SOME
VEHICLES THAT ARE COMPLETELY EXEMPT FROM EVEN A REQUIREMENT FOR A
SEAT, SUCH AS A FARM VEHICLE.
MR. MOSLEY: CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: DOES THIS EXEMPT FARM VEHICLES
FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SEAT BELT?
MR. MOSLEY: YES, IT DOES.
MR. GOODELL: AND HOW -- WHERE IN THE LANGUAGE
DOES IT EXEMPT FARM VEHICLES FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR A SEAT BELT?
MR. MOSLEY: WELL, I THINK THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE
REQUIRED TO HAVE A SEAT BELT IS WHEN THERE IS A SEAT WITH A BELT.
MR. GOODELL: BUT THIS SAYS NO PERSON SHALL BE A
PASSENGER, CORRECT?
MR. MOSLEY: CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: IS THERE ANY REFERENCE TO SECTION
1222 THAT RELATES TO AGRICULTURAL VEHICLES?
MR. MOSLEY: NO, BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
RESEARCH IS THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PRIMARILY ON PRIVATE
PROPERTIES WHICH ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, THIS -- THIS VEHICLE
AND TRAFFIC LAW WOULD NOT APPLY TO THEM.
MR. GOODELL: ONE OTHER QUESTION. WHO GETS A
TICKET? IT'S THE PASSENGER THAT GETS A TICKET?
MR. MOSLEY: WELL, IF YOU'RE UNDER 16 AND YOU
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CANNOT LAWFULLY DRIVE, YOU -- YOU WILL NOT BE -- THE DRIVER WILL GET THE
TICKET. IF YOU'RE 16 AND OLDER AND TECHNICALLY YOU'RE LAWFULLY IN A
POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE IN NEW YORK -- IN NEW YORK STATE, YOU
WILL GET THE -- THAT 16-YEAR-OLD WILL GET THE TICKET OR CITATION.
MR. GOODELL: AND THAT WOULD THEN BE CREATED
UNDER THE RAISE THE AGE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO?
MR. MOSLEY: NO.
MR. GOODELL: SO, WHERE WOULD --
MR. MOSLEY: IT'S JUST A CITATION.
MR. GOODELL: I SEE. THANK YOU, MR. MOSLEY.
ON THE BILL, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.
GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: WHILE IT MAY NOT BE COMMON IN
NEW YORK CITY, IN UPSTATE AGRICULTURAL AREAS IT IS FAIRLY COMMON
PRACTICE FOR THOSE WORKING ON A FARM WHERE THEY GO BETWEEN FIELDS, TO
RIDE IN THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK. AND IF YOU ARE REPAIRING FENCE
LINES, FOR EXAMPLE, OR DOING OTHER WORK, YOU PUT YOUR TOOLS IN THE BACK
OF THE PICKUP TRUCK, EVERYONE PILES IN. THAT IS EXPRESSLY RECOGNIZED
AND ACKNOWLEDGED UNDER THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW AS LONG AS THE
DISTANCE IS FIVE MILES OR LESS. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS BILL DOES NOT BY ITS
TERMS EXCLUDE THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 1222. AND SO -- WELL, I MEAN
IT WOULD CREATE A REAL INCONVENIENCE FOR ALL OF OUR FARMERS WHO
HISTORICALLY AND TRADITIONALLY HAVE, FOR VERY PRACTICAL REASONS, RIDDEN IN
THE BACK OF A PICKUP TRUCK FOR SHORT DISTANCES IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH
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AGRICULTURAL WORK. THE SOLUTION IS VERY SIMPLE, AND THE SOLUTION IS TO
SIMPLY ADD AN EXCLUSION UNDER THIS LANGUAGE. THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE,
AND FOR THAT REASON I AND ALL OTHERS WHO WANT TO HELP OUR FARMERS
CONTINUE TO OPERATE EFFICIENTLY WILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THIS
AMENDMENT. I DO COMMEND THE SPONSOR FOR HIS CONCERN OVER SAFETY,
AND -- AND I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN IN THE FUTURE
ACCOMMODATE BOTH DESIRES.
THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT NOVEMBER
1ST.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. MOSLEY TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
(PAUSE)
WE WILL RESCIND THE ROLL CALL. MR. MANKTELOW ON --
HAS QUESTIONS ON THE BILL.
MR. MANKTELOW: YES, MR. SPEAKER. WILL THE
SPONSOR YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WILL YOU YIELD, MR.
MOSLEY?
MR. MOSLEY: YES, I WILL.
MR. MANKTELOW: THANK YOU. JUST -- JUST A
COUPLE QUESTIONS BACK TO THE FARM PART OF IT.
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MR. MOSLEY: RIGHT.
MR. MANKTELOW: SO, FARM MACHINERY
NOWADAYS, IN A LOT OF THE MACHINERY THEY HAVE BUDDY SEATS NEXT TO THE
SEAT IN THE TRACTOR OR IN THE SPARE OR IN THE COMBINE. SO IN THAT
SITUATION, WHEN WE'RE GOING DOWN THE ROAD, HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT PART
OF IT?
MR. MOSLEY: IF -- IF IN THE MANUFACTURING OF THE
VEHICLE, IF THERE IS A REQUIRED SEAT BELT UPON PURCHASE, THEN IT IS TO BE --
IT -- IT HAS TO BE USED. NOW, IF THERE ISN'T AND IF THERE'S A BUDDY SEAT,
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S ANOTHER SITUATION IN TERMS OF JUST THE MERE PRACTICALITY
OF WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BE ON THE ROAD WITHOUT A SEAT BELT, IN A
BUDDY SEAT. BUT IF IT'S MANUFACTURED WITH A SEAT BELT, IT'S GOING TO BE
REQUIRED TO BE USED. IF THERE IS NONE, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE EXEMPT
FROM HAVING TO USE THE SEAT BELT BECAUSE THERE'S NO SEAT BELT TO BE USED.
MR. MANKTELOW: ALL RIGHT. SO, IS IT POSSIBLE TO
ADD AN EXEMPTION IN THERE, AS ASSEMBLYMAN GOODELL SAID, FOR -- FOR
AG?
MR. MOSLEY: WELL, IT'S ALREADY LAW. IT'S UNDER THE
VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC -- TRANSPORTATION LAW, I THINK SECTION 336. 383,
WHERE THAT IS SO NOTED.
MR. MANKTELOW: IT'S ALREADY IN THERE?
MR. MOSLEY: YES.
MR. MANKTELOW: AND ONE -- ONE LAST QUESTION,
THEN, BACK TO THE FARM INDUSTRY PART OF IT. JUST GOING OUT ONTO THE ROAD,
SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE TWO OR THREE OF YOUR CHILDREN WITH YOU, AS
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FARMERS WORK LONG HOURS. SOME OF THE OLDER MACHINERY DO NOT HAVE
SEAT BELTS. IS THAT GOING TO BE A RETROACTIVE THING?
MR. MOSLEY: ARE YOU TALKING -- IS -- IS IT A CAR, IS
IT A -- IS IT A TRACTOR, IS IT --
MR. MANKTELOW: SO -- SO TODAY, IN TODAY'S
AGRICULTURAL WORLD, YOU HAVE SPRAYERS, YOU HAVE COMBINES, YOU HAVE
TRACTORS THAT CAN GO 30, 32 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE ROAD NOW. AND IN
SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS, IN SOME OF THOSE EQUIPMENT, THERE ARE SEAT
BELTS IN SOME OF THOSE. SOME OF THOSE THERE ARE NOT. SO I GUESS THE
QUESTION IS, IF I HAD MY GRANDDAUGHTER WITH ME, I'M IN THE TRACTOR GOING
DOWN THE ROAD 30 MILES AN HOUR AND THERE'S NO SEAT BELTS IN THERE, ARE
WE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PUT A SEAT BELT IN THERE DOWN THE ROAD, OR --
OR IS THAT GOING TO BE EXEMPT FROM THIS?
MR. MOSLEY: IF IT'S IN A VEHICLE THAT IS TO BE MADE
TO BE USED ON FARMLAND AND YOU'RE ON THE HIGHWAY AND YOU'RE ON THE
ROAD GOING 30 MILES AN HOUR, ONE OF THE -- THE PRACTICALITY OF IT ALL,
CONTEXTUALLY SPEAKING, I WOULD HOPE TO THINK THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE
STRAPPED UP. BUT IF THIS IS A VEHICLE THAT HAS NO -- HAS NO SAFE -- HAS NO
SAFETY HARNESS OR SEAT BELT, IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO -- TO HAVE ONE UNDER THIS
LAW.
MR. MANKTELOW: SO -- SO WHAT I'M HEARING,
THEN, IS IN A TRACTOR THAT'S -- WAS MANUFACTURED SOME YEARS AGO THAT
DOES NOT HAVE A SEAT BELT IN IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE OKAY TO TAKE THAT
TRACTOR DOWN THE ROAD WITH A -- WITH MY GRANDDAUGHTER IN IT AND WE
WOULD BE FINE AND NOT BE ILLEGAL, CORRECT?
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MR. MOSLEY: IF IT WAS NEVER REQUIRED TO AT
MANUFACTURING TO HAVE ONE. SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE
MANUFACTURER GET IT RETROFITTED FOR A NEW SEAT BELT UNDER THIS LAW.
MR. MANKTELOW: OKAY. THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME -- FOR THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
MR. MOSLEY: YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.
MR. MANKTELOW: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. MOSLEY NOW ON
THE BILL.
MR. MOSLEY: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ON THE
BILL. EVER SINCE 1985, WE HAVE LOST A COMBINED NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
TO VEHICLE DEATHS AND FATALITIES WELL OVER 15,000 SINCE 1985. ON
AVERAGE, NEW YORK STATE LOSES BETWEEN 28 TO 29 INDIVIDUALS TO VEHICLE
FATALITIES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT USED SEAT BELTS IN THE BACK SEAT,
WHETHER THEY ARE ABOVE AGE 16 OR BELOW 16. WHETHER THEY KILLED
THEMSELVES, THEY KILL OTHERS, THEIR PASSENGER, THE DRIVER OR EVEN
PEDESTRIANS AS THEY MIGHT BE USED AS -- AS THEY MIGHT BECOME A
PROJECTILE IN SOME OF THESE ACCIDENTS. YOU'RE EIGHT TIMES MORE LIKELY
TO BE -- TO SUFFER SERIOUS BODILY INJURY IF YOU DO NOT BUCKLE UP,
REGARDLESS OF YOUR AGE. THIS IS COMMONSENSE LEGISLATION. I UNDERSTAND
THE ISSUE OF FARM VEHICLES. I SEE THEM AS I DRIVE THROUGHOUT CENTRAL
NEW YORK. PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE UNFORTUNATELY LOST THEIR LICENSES
AND USE THESE VEHICLES TO TRANSPORT THEMSELVES FROM POINT A TO POINT
B, BUT ULTIMATELY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, I BELIEVE
AND I KNOW, WILL SAVE HUNDREDS OF LIVES, AND OVER THE YEARS, THOUSANDS
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OF LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS. AS A FATHER OF TWO CHILDREN, THE FIRST THING I DO
IS TELL MY CHILDREN, MAKE SURE YOU BUCKLE UP, UNDERSTANDING THAT I
DON'T WANT THEM TO BECOME A FATALITY IF WE'RE IN AN ACCIDENT, REGARDLESS
OF HOW FAR WE'RE TRAVELING.
SO I WANT TO AGAIN THANK THE ADVOCATES. I WANT TO
THANK AAA, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE IN THE SENATE, SENATOR
CARLUCCI, FOR CHAMPIONING THIS BILL IN THE -- IN THE UPPER HOUSE, AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THIS BILL, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT GETTING
PASSED IN THE SENATE AND GOING BEFORE THE GOVERNOR AND SIGNED INTO
LAW. I BELIEVE THAT THIS LAW INDIRECTLY -- WILL DIRECTLY SAVE LIVES THAT
WOULD'VE BEEN LOST IN ABSENCE OF THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT NOVEMBER
1ST.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. BYRNE TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. BYRNE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TO
COMMEND THE SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION. AS SOMEONE THAT WORKED AND
VOLUNTEERED AS A FIREFIGHTER AND EMT FOR MANY YEARS IN MY DISTRICT,
I'VE HAD THE MISFORTUNE OF GOING TO A LOT OF CALLS THAT ENDED IN FATALITIES
ON THE TACONIC STATE PARKWAY, ON ROUTE 301 IN -- IN PUTNAM COUNTY.
SEAT BELTS SAVE LIVES, AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP IN
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DIRECTION, AND I'M PROUD TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. BYRNE IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MRS. GALEF TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.
MRS. GALEF: TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I WAS JUST
THINKING THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR WE ADOPTED SEAT BELTS. PROBABLY
IN THE 1960S, 1970S, AND I CAN IMAGINE THE ASSEMBLYMEMBERS SITTING
HERE AT THAT POINT PROBABLY BEING VERY STRESSED BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST
TIME THAT SEAT BELTS WERE GOING TO BE INTRODUCED. AND I REMEMBER HOW
PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICTS -- NOT MY DISTRICT THEN, BUT PEOPLE COMPLAINED
ABOUT HAVING TO WEAR SEAT BELTS. AND NOW I DON'T GET THOSE COMPLAINTS
ANYMORE. PEOPLE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WEARING SEAT BELTS BECAUSE
THEY KNOW IT SAVES LIVES. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE IN THE BACK SEAT
OF THE CAR WITH SEAT BELTS, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO FLING THEMSELVES,
POTENTIALLY, IN AN ACCIDENT INTO THE PEOPLE IN THE FRONT SEAT. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, IT'S HURTING EVERYBODY WHEN PEOPLE DON'T BUCKLE UP. AND,
YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE IT OVER A COURSE OF TIME. WEAR SEAT BELTS IN THE
FRONT SEAT, THEN WE DID YOUNG CHILDREN, THEN WE DID REAR
PASSENGER-FACING SEATS FOR UNDER TWO YEARS OLD. SO WE'RE JUST MAKING
PROGRESS. NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE JUST -- WHEN YOU'RE IN A CAR
YOU HAVE TO WEAR A SEAT BELT. AND AS ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID, THIS IS
JUST FOR SAFETY OF ALL OF US, WHETHER YOU'RE IN THAT CAR OR YOU'RE
SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND I APPLAUD THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL. HE DID AN
EXCELLENT JOB. THANK YOU.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. GALEF IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
MR. TAGUE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. FIRST, I DO
WANT TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR. I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S DOING HERE, BUT
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF LEGISLATION OF "ONE GLOVE FITS ALL." AND IT --
THIS DOESN'T WORK EVERYWHERE. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THE
DISPARITY OF OUR UPSTATE RURAL FARMERS. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I CANNOT
VOTE FOR THIS BILL TODAY. IF THERE WERE AN AMENDMENT MADE TO THIS BILL
THAT TOOK CARE OF OUR FARMERS AND WHAT -- AND -- AND THE WAY OF LIFE IN
RURAL UPSTATE NEW YORK THEN I WOULD FULLY SPONSOR IT. BUT FOR THOSE
REASONS, I VOTE NO.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. TAGUE IN THE
NEGATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE CAN
CONTINUE OUR WORK TO -- ON PAGE 54 [SIC], CALENDAR NO. 325. IT'S BY
MR. RYAN, IT IS ON DEBATE AS WELL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08349, CALENDAR NO.
325, RYAN, ENGLEBRIGHT, REYES, ZEBROWSKI, ORTIZ, GOTTFRIED, ABINANTI,
L. ROSENTHAL, HEVESI, THIELE, PAULIN, GLICK, RODRIGUEZ, STERN,
WOERNER, MAGNARELLI, CUSICK, ROZIC, SIMOTAS, EPSTEIN, BURKE,
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MCMAHON, O'DONNELL, QUART, SAYEGH, WALLACE, WEPRIN, CARROLL,
GRIFFIN, KIM, SANTABARBARA, FAHY, FRONTUS, M.G. MILLER, MCDONALD,
MOSLEY, OTIS, SOLAGES, COOK, JACOBSON, VANEL, DINOWITZ,
D. ROSENTHAL, HUNTER, JAFFEE, SIMON, BARRETT, D'URSO, NOLAN, STECK,
RA, DENDEKKER, SEAWRIGHT, GALEF, BARNWELL, NIOU, SCHMITT, ASHBY,
GUNTHER, FERNANDEZ, RIVERA, COLTON, DICKENS, LIFTON, BARRON,
HYNDMAN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IN
RELATION TO THE PROTECTION OF CERTAIN STREAMS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS
REQUESTED, MR. RYAN.
MR. RYAN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS BILL
WOULD CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW AND WILL
RECLASSIFY CLASS C WATERWAYS FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROTECTION. CLASS C
WATERWAYS ARE REGULARLY USED BY PEOPLE FOR BOATING, FISHING AND OTHER
ACTIVITIES, BUT ARE NOT -- ARE NOT CURRENTLY AFFORDED THE PROTECTION THAT IS
PROVIDED TO OTHERWISE -- OTHER WATERWAYS CLASSIFIED AS STREAMS.
BECAUSE OF THIS, THESE STREAMS ARE SUBJECTED TO ECOLOGICAL DAMAGE AND
WE'RE HOPING TO INCREASE THE PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE STREAMS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. PALMESANO.
MR. PALMESANO: YES, MR. SPEAKER. WILL THE
SPONSOR YIELD FOR SOME QUESTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WILL YOU YIELD, MR.
RYAN?
MR. RYAN: I CERTAINLY WILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR YIELDS.
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MR. PALMESANO: THANK YOU, SEAN. I KNOW WE
TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS BILL A LITTLE
BIT BEFORE AND --
MR. RYAN: SURE.
MR. PALMESANO: -- I -- I HAVE TO ASK YOU. IN --
IN DEVELOPING THIS BILL, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH OUR
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS FROM TOWNS AND COUNTIES ABOUT THE IMPACT
THAT THIS LEGISLATION WILL HAVE ON THEM AND THEIR OPERATIONS FROM A --
FROM A -- FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE?
MR. RYAN: YEAH. I TALKED TO FOLKS FROM MY COUNTY
ABOUT -- ABOUT THIS BILL. THE BDPW, SOIL AND WATER, AND WE SPOKE OF
THIS AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS BACK.
MR. PALMESANO: ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'VE SPOKEN TO
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS, SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS. HOW
ABOUT OUR FARMERS?
MR. RYAN: I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANY FARMERS.
MR. PALMESANO: HOW ABOUT OUR -- OUR UTILITIES
THAT HAVE TO DO UTILITY WORK, ROUTINE UTILITY WORK AND INFRASTRUCTURE
WORK?
MR. RYAN: I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
UTILITY INDUSTRY ON THIS BILL.
MR. PALMESANO: OKAY. AND HOW ABOUT LIKE ON
FOREST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND TIMBER PRACTICES? ANYONE THERE?
MR. RYAN: NO. NO ONE FROM THE TIMBER FIELD.
MR. PALMESANO: WELL, WE -- WE'VE RECEIVED A
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NUMBER OF MEMOS THAT HAVE BROUGHT UP CONCERNS, MEMOS OF OPERATION
[SIC]. THE COUNTY HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS ASSOCIATION, FOR ONE --
MR. RYAN: SURE.
MR. PALMESANO: AND LET ME JUST -- LET ME JUST
SPECIFICALLY MENTION ONE THING THAT THEY MENTIONED IN THEIR -- IN THEIR
MEMO. WHEN YOU HAVE THESE TYPES OF POSSIBLE DELAYS, BY HAVING THESE
PERMITS THAT IT CAN TAKE LONGER. I MEAN ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE DELAYS BECAUSE THE -- THE LONGER THE TIME IT'S GOING
TO TAKE TO -- TO MAKE THESE PERMITS, THE COST IMPACT, DELAYING THAT. LIKE
FOR EXAMPLE, THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS CITED VERY EASILY, THE
DELAYS IN THIS PROJECT AND COSTS THAT CAN COME ALONG WITH IT CAN TURN --
CAN TAKE A SIMPLE $90,000 CULVERT OPERATION REPLACEMENT AND TURN IT
INTO A $1 MILLION BRIDGE PROJECT VERY EASILY BECAUSE OF THE OPERATIONS
AND THE COSTS.
MR. RYAN: SO YOUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS
SHOULD BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT UNDER CHAPTER 150501 OF THE CURRENT
LAWS, THEY'RE OFFERED A BIG PROTECTION, AND THAT IF C COMES INTO THE
CLASSIFICATION, THOSE PROTECTIONS WOULD TRAVEL WITH THIS. SO RIGHT NOW
MOST COUNTIES, HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS, THEY ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT
WITH DEC ON THESE STREAMS. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE -- THERE'S BROAD
EXEMPTIONS FOR HIGHWAYS, FOR PUBLIC CORPORATIONS. FOR EMERGENCIES,
THERE'S -- THERE'S EXEMPTIONS. I REMEMBER BACK WHEN IRENE HAPPENED.
WE REBUILT BRIDGES ALL OVER THE ADIRONDACK PARK SYSTEM, BUT WE DID IT
THROUGH THE EMERGENCY PROVISIONS, WHICH DIDN'T SLOW ANYTHING --
ANYTHING DOWN.
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MR. PALMESANO: WELL, I THINK -- I THINK THE
CONCERN OUT THERE IS OPERATION, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY -- THESE GROUPS
HAVE WORKED WITH DEC IN THE PAST BUT NOW THEY ASKED -- NOW THEY
ASKED FOR THIS ADDITIONAL PERMIT WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE EVEN MORE
REQUIREMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT MORE WORKLOAD ON DEC. WE KNOW
THAT DEC DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY GET THOSE PERMITS DONE IN A TIMELY
MATTER BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES THEY HAVE. SO IF YOU DO THAT ON BRIDGE
PROJECTS, A CULVERT PROJECT COULD TURN THOSE IN. THAT COULD DELAY. OUR
SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, I HEARD FROM OUR SOIL AND WATER
CONSERVATION DISTRICTS IN MY AREA THAT DO GREAT WORK IN STREAM-BASED
STABILIZATION. THEY'RE -- THEY'RE CONCERNED THIS IS GOING TO PUT THEM OUT
OF BUSINESS, WHICH WILL HURT THE OPERATIONS IN THOSE COUNTIES. OUR
FARMERS BEING ABLE TO -- TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, CLEARING WATERWAYS
AND BEING ABLE TO PROTECT THEIR CROPS DURING A SEASONAL OPERATION. IF
THEY HAVE TO WAIT SIX TO NINE MONTHS FOR A PERMIT TO COME THROUGH, THAT
MIGHT BE TOO LATE FOR THEM.
MR. RYAN: IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE AN EXAMPLE
WHERE THE AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTION THAT'S CURRENTLY AFFORDED THAT WILL
TRAVEL DOWN TO THE C PERMITS WOULD IMPACT FARMERS. SO RIGHT NOW
UNDER THE CURRENT LAW, FARMERS ARE ALLOWED TO DRIVE MECHANIZED
VEHICLES ACROSS STREAMBEDS, FARMERS ARE ALLOWED TO DRIVE LIVESTOCK
ACROSS STREAMBEDS. FARMERS ARE ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW WATER FOR
IRRIGATION PURPOSES FROM -- FROM STREAMS WITH -- WITH NO PERMITS. AND
THAT EXEMPTION WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. SO FOR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS,
NOTHING SHOULD BE DIFFERENT. BUT THEY WILL BE GRANTED SOME ELEMENT OF
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PROTECTIONS FROM PEOPLE UPSTREAM FROM THEM. SO UNDER THE CURRENT
LAW, IF A FARMER IS DEPENDENT ON A CLASS C STREAM FOR THEIR IRRIGATION, IF
THE NEIGHBOR ONE MILE UP THE STREAM DECIDES TO ALTER THE COURSE OF THAT
STREAM AND DIVERT IT AWAY FROM THAT FARMER, THAT FARMER WOULD HAVE NO
PROTECTION. WE'VE SEEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN. RECENTLY IN WESTERN
NEW YORK THERE WAS A STREAM THAT WENT THROUGH A -- A GOLF COURSE, AND
THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO HAVE A WATER HAZARD. SO THEY MOVED THE
STREAM AROUND AND PUT A POND IN. NO PERMITS NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S A
CLASS C. A FEW YEARS LATER THEY DECIDED THEY WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER
WATER HAZARD, SO THEY MOVED THE STREAM AROUND AGAIN TO CREATE THE
SECOND POND. BUT ONCE THEY WERE DONE WITH THAT SECOND POND, GUESS
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STREAM AT THE OUTFLOW? NO MORE WATER CAME OUT
OF THAT STREAM. SO ANYONE WHO IS DOWNSTREAM AND WAS USING THAT
WATER EITHER FOR PUBLIC DRINKING WATER, FOR AGRICULTURAL IRRIGATION, THAT
STREAM WAS CUT OFF FOR THEM, AND NO PERMIT WAS NECESSARY TO DO THAT.
SO THESE PROTECTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE IN THIS BILL, WILL, IN
MANY CIRCUMSTANCES, PROTECT FARMERS AND THEIR RIGHT TO ACCESS STREAMS,
ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE DEPENDENT ON THOSE STREAMS FOR IRRIGATION
PURPOSES.
MR. PALMESANO: MR. SPEAKER, WILL THE SPONSOR
CONTINUE TO YIELD?
MR. RYAN: YES.
MR. PALMESANO: THANK YOU, SEAN. THE OTHER
AREA I KNOW WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME
CONVERSATIONS WITH UTILITIES AND THE OPERATIONS THEY HAVE TO DO. ISN'T
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THERE ANY CONCERN BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ROUTINE -- I'M NOT JUST
TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY WORK WHEN THERE'S A STORM, BUT ROUTINE WORK
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO DO ON INFRASTRUCTURE PURPOSES, IF WE GOT -- WE HAVE
TO GO THROUGH THIS PERMIT PROCESS, WHICH WE KNOW TAKES TIME, DELAYS,
THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, SOME PROJECTIONS ARE SAYING SIX TO NINE MONTHS TO
A YEAR TO GET A PERMIT. ISN'T THAT THE WORK THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE
-- SURE THE RELIABILITY OF THE GRID AND THEIR -- THEIR SERVICES SO THE
ELECTRICITY AND UTILITIES ARE DELIVERED AND RELIABLE FOR THE RATEPAYERS?
AND IF THERE'S MORE DELAYS, THAT'S GOING TO ADD MORE COST, AND THAT COST
WOULD BE BORNE BY THE RATEPAYER, WHICH WE KNOW ALREADY HAVE SOME
OF THE HIGHEST UTILITY COSTS IN THE COUNTRY. SO, AREN'T THERE ANY -- AREN'T
THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH THIS AND NOT LOOKING FOR CARVE-OUTS? I KNOW
YOU SAID THERE WERE EXEMPTIONS FOR -- SUPPOSEDLY FOR SOIL AND WATER,
FOR HIGHWAYS, FOR --
MR. RYAN: WELL, THE EXEMPTIONS ARE ALREADY THERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT -- AT CHAPTER 15, THOSE EXEMPTIONS ARE THERE FOR SOIL AND
WATER, WHICH IS A PUBLIC CORPORATION. THEY'RE THERE FOR ANY HIGHWAY
SUPERINTENDENT WHO, OF COURSE, OPERATES UNDER A MUNICIPALITY. AND AS
FOR -- FOR THE LARGE UTILITIES, THOSE UTILITIES ALREADY GO THROUGH THE
PERMITTING PROCESS EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY -- THEY DO WORK. SO, YOU
KNOW, IN MY AREA OF THE STATE, IF A UTILITY PROVIDER IS DOING ANY SORT OF
STREAM CLEARANCE, ANYTHING TO DO WITH DRIVING LINES THROUGH, THEY
ALREADY HAVE THESE PERMITS. THEY HAVE AN OPEN CONTRACT WITH DEC.
SO IT WOULD -- IT WOULD JUST ADD ON TO THAT OPEN CONTRACT. ONE
CONTRACT, MIND YOU. NOT ONE FOR EACH AND EVERY STREAM. THEY WOULD
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JUST ADD THESE -- THESE STREAMS ON. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE, IN
FACT, PROHIBITED, A CORPORATION, FROM COMING IN AND BULLDOZING A BANK.
RIGHT NOW THEY COULD COME IN AND BULLDOZER A BANK IN A STREAM,
MUDDY THAT WATER, MAKE A DOWNSTREAM FLOOD PROBLEM WITH -- WITH NO
PERMITS. SO THIS WOULD JUST ADD ONE MORE LAYER OF PROTECTION THAT'S
ALREADY AFFORDED TO THE A AND THE B STREAMS. YOU KNOW, REMEMBER,
THE C STREAMS, THEY'RE RECREATIONAL STREAMS. THEY CAN -- YOU CAN FISH
OUT OF THOSE STREAMS. THEY JUST RECOMMEND NO CONTACT WITH IT, SO IT'S
NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO GO SWIMMING IN. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THESE STREAMS STAY HEALTHY, SO WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GRANT
AN EXEMPTION TO A UTILITY COMPANY WHO IS GOING TO IN-FILL A STREAM THAT
THE COMMUNITY FISHES ON. SO WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYONE THAT SORT OF
AUTHORITY IN -- IN NEW YORK STATE. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THE
CLASS C STREAMS HAVE BEEN GETTING CLEANER AND CLEANER THROUGHOUT THE
YEARS AS WE'VE STOPPED DOING A LOT OF POLLUTANT DISCHARGES IN NEW
YORK STATE. SO THESE STREAMS THAT AT ONE POINT COULD ONLY SUPPORT FISH
IF FISH WERE STOCKED INTO IT, THEY'RE -- THEY'RE STARTING TO SUPPORT FISH
THEMSELVES. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ONE MORE THING ON THIS.
OVER 11 MILLION NEW YORKERS GET THEIR DRINKING WATERS FROM PUBLIC
SYSTEMS AND RESERVOIRS SUPPLIED BY CLASS C STREAMS. SO RIGHT NOW, IF
YOUR TOWN'S RESERVOIR SYSTEM IS CONNECTED TO CLASS C STREAMS, THERE ARE
NO PROTECTIONS. SO ANY LANDOWNER COULD COME IN AND FILL UP A STREAM
THAT IS THE DRINKING WATER THAT GOES TO A RESERVOIR. THEY COULD FILL THAT
IN WITH -- WITH NO PERMITS. SO WE'RE OFFERING SOME SIMPLE PROTECTIONS
WITH A GOOD CARVE-OUT FOR MUNICIPALITIES, CORPORATIONS LIKE SOIL AND
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WATER, AND AGRICULTURAL. AND I'LL ADD ON, TOO; THIS DOESN'T AFFECT IF YOU
HAVE A SPDES PERMIT TO DISCHARGE. SPDES PERMIT, IT DOESN'T --
DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A, B OR C, YOU JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME
PERMIT. THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH A PERMIT BEFORE, THEY'LL
HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PERMIT NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, BY AND LARGE, THE
BENEFICIARIES OF THIS ARE GOING TO BE NEW YORKERS WHO ENJOY CLEAN
WATER.
MR. PALMESANO: WELL, SEAN, IF I MAY, I KNOW
WHEN WE WERE TALKING BECAUSE THIS CAME UP REALLY KIND OF QUICK, AND I
KNOW YOU SAID -- YOU OFFERED GRACIOUSLY THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO SIT
DOWN AND TALK --
MR. RYAN: SURE.
MR. PALMESANO: -- TO THESE GROUPS WHO'VE
EXPRESSED CONCERNS. SO, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN -- BECAUSE
SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT'S A
LITTLE CONFLICTING. SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH OUR
SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SIT
DOWN WITH OUR FARMERS AND FARM BUREAU? WOULD YOU EVEN BE WILLING
TO SIT DOWN WITH THE UTILITIES JUST TO MAKE SURE --
MR. RYAN: YES.
MR. PALMESANO: -- WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE
QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A
CONCERN. AND LET ME BE CLEAR: NO ONE'S NOT LOOKING FOR CARTE BLANCHE
AND NOT PROTECTING OUR STREAMS AND WATER.
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MR. RYAN: RIGHT.
MR. PALMESANO: WE WANT TO DO THAT. I JUST
THINK THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN PLACE THAT ARE -- THAT THESE GROUPS WORK
WITHIN, TO -- TO FOLLOW AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO TIGHTEN UP. BUT I JUST
HOPE YOU CAN ASSURE, AGAIN, THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AGAIN
WITH OUR HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS, OUR -- OUR SOIL AND WATER
CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, OUR FARMERS, OUR FARM BUREAU AND OUR UTILITIES,
BECAUSE THE WORK IS -- THEY'RE ALL ABOUT PROVIDING SERVICE TO THE -- TO
THE RATEPAYER, TO THE -- TO THE FARMER. SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, I
WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
MR. RYAN: I'M 100 PERCENT WILLING TO DO THAT.
MR. PALMESANO: THANK YOU.
MR. RYAN: I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS
ON THAT.
MR. PALMESANO: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.
MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, SIR.
MR. PALMESANO: YES, MR. SPEAKER. I APPRECIATE
THE INTENTIONS OF MY -- MY FRIEND AND MY -- AND THE SPONSOR. I BELIEVE
HE'S WELL-INTENDED WITH THIS BILL. YOU KNOW, THIS CAME UP KIND OF
QUICK, BUT I HEARD FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS; COUNTY
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS, A MEMORANDUM IN OPPOSITION, FARM BUREAU
MEMORANDUM IN OPPOSITION. EMPIRE STATE FOREST PRODUCT ASSOCIATION
MEMORANDUM IN OPPOSITION. OUR UTILITIES ARE CONCERNED ON THE ABILITY
TO DO THE WORK THEY HAVE TO DO TO PROTECT THE RATEPAYER, TO ENSURE THE
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DELIVERY OF QUALITY, RELIABLE ENERGY GRID. AND I THINK ONE -- ONE AREA IN
PARTICULAR I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, AT LEAST, WE DO A LOT OF WORK IN THIS HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO
LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE -- WE HAVE A FIGHT EVERY YEAR ABOUT PROTECTING
THE CHIPS PROGRAM. I KNOW WE DO IT -- WE DO IT -- BOTH SIDES OF THE
AISLE TO TRY TO PUSH THAT TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE KNOW
THE MONEY THEY GET RIGHT NOW IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH. BELIEVE ME,
THERE'S CONCERN BEING RAISED BY OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES WHICH SAY
EXEMPTIONS ARE GREAT, BUT THEY DON'T -- AT LEAST WHAT I'M HEARING, THEY'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THEM.
WE'RE, AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT -- ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THEY GAVE WAS
TALKING ABOUT A 90,000 BRIDGE -- CULVERT PROJECT COULD TURN INTO A
$1 MILLION COSTLY PROGRAM, A BRIDGE, WITH DELAYS. AND THAT -- THAT
WOULD CERTAINLY EAT INTO THAT CHIPS FUNDING. THAT WOULD CERTAINLY EAT
INTO THAT WINTER RECOVERY FUNDING, BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET THAT THE
GOVERNOR DIDN'T PUT IN THERE. THAT'S GOING TO EAT INTO THAT PAVE-NY
OR BRIDGE NY FUNDING. THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S GOING TO BE A -- A STRAIN
ON OUR PROPERTY TAXPAYERS. SO I JUST HOPE THE SPONSOR -- I BELIEVE HIS
INTENTIONS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. I -- I HOPE HE'S WILLING TO SIT DOWN, AS
HE SAID HERE, TO MAKE SURE, WHETHER IT'S CHANGES OR TWEAKS, WHATEVER
YOU HAVE DO TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE IN THERE FOR OUR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, FOR OUR FARMERS. OUR AGRICULTURE IS OUR NUMBER ONE
INDUSTRY IN THE STATE. OUR FARMERS HAVE BEEN TAKING IT ON THE CHIN WITH
FARM LABOR COSTS AND LOSING FAMILY FARMS. IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE
ABILITY TO DO THEIR WORK THEY NEED TO DO, THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVASTATING
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TO OUR FAMILY FARMS. NINETY-EIGHT PERCENT OF THE FARMS IN NEW YORK
STATE ARE FAMILY-OWNED FARMS. WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM, NOT PUT MORE
BURDENS AND MORE CHALLENGES AND COSTS ON THEM. THAT'S A CONCERN
THAT'S BEEN RAISED. AND CERTAINLY, OUR SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION
DISTRICTS CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK. THEY ARE -- THEY PRESERVE THE
ENVIRONMENT. THEY -- THEY HELP OUR ENVIRONMENT WITH THE WORK THEY
DO ON STREAM-BASE STABILIZATION AND OTHER STORM WATER PROTECTION.
THEY DO GREAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WHEN MY SOIL AND
CONSERVATION DISTRICT DIRECTORS CALL ME AND SAYS, THIS WILL PUT US OUT OF
BUSINESS, THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN I HAVE TO BRING TO THIS BODY.
THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN I HAVE TO BRING TO THE SPONSOR OF THIS
LEGISLATION. SO I'M ENCOURAGED THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT TALKING TO THESE
GROUPS. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE PASS LEGISLATION AND WE DON'T WANT -- -
NO ONE WANTS TO TALK TO ANYONE ANYMORE. SO I'M ENCOURAGED -- THANK
YOU, MR. RYAN, FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SIT DOWN WITH THESE GROUPS. I
WOULD LOVE TO HELP FACILITATE THAT AND TALK TO YOU FURTHER. I THINK THAT --
THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOUR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN. AND HOPEFULLY NOT JUST
LISTEN, BUT TAKE THE ACTION THAT'S NECESSARY TO FIX THIS, WHERE THE
PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO BE IDENTIFIED, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS
THAT WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
SO, MR. SPEAKER AND MY COLLEAGUES, FOR THESE REASONS
-- NO ONE IS SAYING WE SHOULDN'T PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS. BUT I THINK THE
CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND WHEN
YOU GET THOSE TYPES OF CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH BY, LIKE I SAID, OUR LOCAL
HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS, OUR FARMERS, OUR SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION
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DISTRICTS. EVEN OUR UTILITIES. I KNOW SOMETIMES "THE UTILITIES" IS THE BIG
BAD WORD IN THIS HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROTECTING THE GRID
AND MAKING SURE THERE'S RELIABLE UTILITY SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN
RURAL AREAS, IN THE CITIES. ESPECIALLY WHERE THE STREAMS GO THROUGH. WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE A PART OF THIS. THEY NEED TO BE A PARTNER AND
PART OF THIS DIALOGUE. THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE. HOPEFULLY, WE
TAKE THE TIME, AND I -- AND I TRUST THE SPONSOR AND HIS WORD THAT HE'S
GOING TO DO THIS. I'VE KNOWN HIM, SO I BELIEVE HIM. BUT HOPEFULLY, WE
CAN HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, AND IF WE CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THERE'S
PROBLEMS, FIX THEM BEFORE IT BECOMES DEVASTATING AND COSTLY. BECAUSE
THAT'S THE LAST THING WE NEED ON OUR -- OUR TAXPAYERS, ON OUR
MUNICIPALITIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR MUNICIPALITIES ARE ALREADY AT
ASSAULT BY THE ADMINISTRATION WITH THINGS LIKE THE MEDICAID PROGRAM.
NOT FUNDING OUR LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE LEVEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE
FUNDED. CUTTING OUT WINTER RECOVERY. CUTTING INTO THOSE BUDGETS I
THINK IS A DANGEROUS THING. AND I JUST HOPE WE CAN HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION. SO, REALLY, MY -- MR. SPEAKER AND MY COLLEAGUES, I KNOW
THE INTENTIONS ARE WELL-INTENDED. I JUST -- I'M JUST VERY FEARFUL OF THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS. THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THIS LEGISLATION
COULD BE FAR-REACHING. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO
ADDRESS THOSE FIXES, I'M CONCERNED.
SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEGATIVE ON
THIS BILL TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
GOING FURTHER AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. IF
YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR LOCAL HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENTS, YOUR LOCAL
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MUNICIPALITIES, IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR FARMERS, IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE
WORK OUR SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR --
OUR -- OUR CUSTOMER -- OUR PEOPLE HAVE RELIABLE UTILITY SERVICES, THEN I
WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE NO AGAINST THIS BILL. LET'S START OVER. LET'S GO
BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND TWEAK. I'D
RATHER DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. BUT I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR'S
INTENTION. I APPRECIATE HIS TIME AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK
YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEGATIVE AND I ENCOURAGE MY
COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. DANIEL STEC.
MR. STEC: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, SIR.
MR. STEC: VERY BRIEFLY, I WANT TO COMMEND MY
COLLEAGUE FOR HIS REMARKS THAT HE JUST MADE. AND I -- I SHARE HIS
CONCERNS. I ALSO SHARE HIS COMPLIMENTS TO THE SPONSOR. I THINK THE
SPONSOR IS WELL-INTENDED HERE; HOWEVER, LIKE THE FORMER COLLEAGUE THAT
JUST DEBATED THIS BILL, I, TOO, HAVE HEARD FROM A LOT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT
IN MY DISTRICT, SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, NATIONAL GRID.
FARMERS ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE ADDED LAYER OF THE DIFFICULTY THAT
THIS WILL CREATE ON WHAT WERE PREVIOUSLY ALREADY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS OR
-- OR PROCESSES LIKE TRANSMISSION LINE WORK THAT COULD ADD DOZENS OF
PERMITS BECAUSE OF NEWLY-CLASSIFIED WATERWAYS. SO I AM ENCOURAGED
BY WHAT I HEARD ON DEBATE THAT THE SPONSOR IS WILLING TO WORK WITH
THESE GROUPS AND TAKE FURTHER INPUT. BUT AS MY COLLEAGUE BEFORE ME
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SAID, I, TOO, WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEGATIVE AND ENCOURAGE OUR
COLLEAGUES TO DO LIKEWISE UNTIL WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM ALL
THE STAKEHOLDERS, THEIR WISDOM AND THEIR EXPERIENCE SO THAT WE -- WE
GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
SO I'LL BE IN THE NEGATIVE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. RYAN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. RYAN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TO
EXPLAIN MY VOTE. WE ALL KNOW THAT NEW YORK STATE'S A -- WE'RE A STATE
FULL OF STREAMS, RIVERS, OCEANS, BAYS, THE GREAT LAKES. WE ARE BLESSED
WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF FRESH WATER RESOURCES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AND
THIS BILL WILL OFFER FURTHER PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR --
OUR FRESH WATER STREAMS AND ALSO TO PROTECT OUR DRINKING WATER. THE
BILL -- THE BILL WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO LIMIT THE BURDENS ON ANY
MUNICIPALITIES. IT OFFERS BROAD EXEMPTIONS. AND I THANK THE
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION CHAIR, STEVE ENGLEBRIGHT, FOR HIS SUPPORT
ON THIS AND FOR HIS STAFF AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS COMPLICATED
EXERCISE.
WITH THAT, I WITHDRAW MY REQUEST TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE
AND I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. RYAN IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO WE
HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE DO HAVE
RESOLUTIONS. THERE IS A PRIVILEGED RESOLUTION BY MR. SANTABARBARA
WHICH WE WILL TAKE UP ONCE IT'S UP ON THE BOARD.
THE CLERK WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 762, MR.
SANTABARBARA. LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION CELEBRATING THE LIFE AND
ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF KIRK DOUGLAS, HOLLYWOOD ICON, NOTED
PHILANTHROPIST AND DEVOTED FAMILY MAN.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. SANTABARBARA ON
THE RESOLUTION.
MR. SANTABARBARA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I'M HONORED TO SPONSOR THIS RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE LIFE AND
ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF ONE OF AMSTERDAM'S FINEST, KIRK DOUGLAS. I WAS
VERY SADDENED TO HEAR OF HIS LOSS AT THE AGE OF 103. KIRK DOUGLAS,
PERHAPS THE CITY OF AMSTERDAM'S MOST FAMOUS NATIVE SON AND A
BRILLIANT ACTOR. IT IS A GREAT LOSS NOT ONLY FOR THE STATE OF NEW YORK,
BUT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. THE CITY OF AMSTERDAM IS IN MONTGOMERY -- IN
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THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY PORTION OF MY DISTRICT WHERE KIRK DOUGLAS
WAS BORN TO JEWISH IMMIGRANTS AND ROSE FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS TO
BECOME ONE OF HOLLYWOOD'S MOST BELOVED ICONS. HE WAS RAISED IN
WHAT IS KNOWN AS AMSTERDAM'S EAST END. THROUGHOUT HIS CHILDHOOD
AND TEENAGE YEARS HE WORKED MORE THAN 40 JOBS TO SUPPLEMENT HIS
FATHER'S INCOME. HIS FAMILY'S HOME ON EAGLE STREET STILL STANDS THERE
TODAY, WHERE HE -- WHERE WE RECENTLY INSTALLED AN HISTORICAL MARKER
WHERE HE GREW UP. IT READS "KIRK DOUGLAS, FILM LEGEND. BORN
DECEMBER 9, 1916 TO IMMIGRANT PARENTS, LIVING AT 46 EAGLE STREET.
ROSE FROM POVERTY TO APPEAR IN MORE THAN 90 FILMS IN HOLLYWOOD." IT
REMINDS OF HIS HUMBLE BEGINNINGS WHERE HE ROSE FROM POVERTY TO
BECOME AN AWARD-WINNING ACTOR STARRING IN MORE THAN 90 FILMS, AS I
JUST SAID. CLASSICS -- CLASSICS SUCH AS SPARTACUS, YOUNG MAN WITH A
HORN AND CHAMPION. FILMS THAT BRING THE AMSTERDAM COMMUNITY A
SPECIAL SENSE OF PRIDE, KNOWING THAT HE STARTED HIS GREAT CAREER ON THE
STAGE AT AMSTERDAM'S -- AMSTERDAM HIGH SCHOOL. AFTER GRADUATING
COLLEGE HE WAS AWARDED A SCHOLARSHIP AT THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF
DRAMATIC ARTS IN NEW YORK CITY, MAKING HIS FIRST BROADWAY
APPEARANCE IN THE 1941 MUSICAL SPRING AGAIN. DURING WORLD WAR II
HE ALSO SERVED AS A COMMUNICATION OFFICER ON AN ANTI-SUBMARINE CRAFT
IN THE PACIFIC THEATER UNTIL HE WAS DISCHARGED AFTER BEING INJURED IN AN
EXPLOSION. HE BEGAN HIS STORIED FILM CAREER IN 1946 AND EARNED HIS
FIRST OSCAR NOMINATION THREE YEARS LATER FOR HIS ROLE AS A BOXER, MIDGE
KELLY, IN CHAMPION. HE RECEIVED A GOLDEN -- GOLDEN GLOBE AWARD
FOR BEST ACTOR IN A DRAMA IN 1957 FOR HIS PERFORMANCE IN LUST OF LIFE.
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AND HE WAS PRESENTED WITH AN HONORARY ACADEMY AWARD IN 1996 FOR
50 YEARS OF CREATIVE AND MORAL -- AND MORAL FORCE IN THE MOTION PICTURE
COMMUNITY. IN 1981 HE RECEIVED THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM,
THE HIGHEST CIVILIAN AWARD IN THE UNITED STATES.
KIRK DOUGLAS AND HIS BELOVED WIFE, ANNE, FOUNDED
THE DOUGLAS FOUNDATION AND WERE AN -- WERE AN INCREDIBLY GENEROUS
COUPLE, DONATING TO EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, MEDICAL FACILITIES AND A
NUMBER OF NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
THERE ARE NO BETTER WORDS TO DESCRIBE THE IMPACT KIRK
DOUGLAS LEFT ON THE WORLD BETTER THAN HIS SON, MICHAEL DOUGLAS, WHO
WROTE, HIS FATHER'S LIFE WAS WELL-LIVED, AND HE LEAVES A LEGACY OF FILM
THAT WILL ENDURE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, AND A HISTORY AS A RENOWNED
PHILANTHROPIST WHO WORKED TO AID THE PUBLIC AND BRING PEACE TO THE
PLANET.
SO TODAY I'M HONORED TO SPONSOR THIS RESOLUTION
RECOGNIZING HIS LIFE AND HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, HIS IMMEASURABLE
CONTRIBUTIONS TO HOLLYWOOD'S GOLDEN AGE, AND HIS AMSTERDAM ROOTS
WILL ALWAYS BE REMEMBERED. MAY HE REST IN PEACE. THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.
ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.
WE HAVE NUMEROUS OTHER FINE RESOLUTIONS. WE WILL
TAKE THEM UP ON -- WITH ONE VOTE.
ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
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AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.
(WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 763 AND 764
WERE UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU
PLEASE CALL ON MR. OTIS FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. OTIS FOR THE
PURPOSES OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
MR. OTIS: I HOPE MEMBERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC
CONFERENCE WILL JOIN US FOR A CONFERENCE IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE
ROOM IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CONCLUSION OF SESSION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: DEMOCRATIC
CONFERENCE, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING
SESSION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE
THAT THE ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 10:00 A.M., THURSDAY,
FEBRUARY THE 13TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS
ADJOURNED.
(WHEREUPON, AT 1:54 P.M., THE HOUSE STOOD ADJOURNED
UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH AT 10:00 A.M., THAT BEING A SESSION DAY.)
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