TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2019                                      1:22 P.M.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

                    OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY

                    THE 26TH, AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

                    ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, FOR -- AT

                    LEAST SINCE THE BEGINNING OF SESSION, WE'VE BEEN STARTING OUT WITH AN

                    OPPORTUNITY TO QUOTE SOME GREAT AMERICAN OR SOME GREAT PERSON IN OUR

                    WORLD.  TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT SPEAKER HEASTIE AND I ARE

                    PUTTING OUT A PRESS RELEASE AND IT'S GOING TO GO ONLINE, IT'S GOING TO GO

                    LIVE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED, "ASPIRE TO INSPIRE."  AND THE IDEA IS TO

                    HAVE NEW YORKERS, TO -- YOUNG PEOPLE OR OLD PEOPLE, STUDENTS OR

                    COLLEGE STUDENTS TO JOIN US IN SENDING IN QUOTES THAT WILL BE

                    INSPIRATIONAL, THAT WILL PROMOTE CIVILITY AND THAT WILL ENCOURAGE US IN

                    OUR WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.  THIS IS GOING TO GO

                    OUT TODAY, MR. SPEAKER.  AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT

                    GOES ON IN OUR COUNTRY CALLED KIDS FIRE, WHERE KIDS SAY REALLY NICE

                    THINGS THAT ARE VERY MEANINGFUL.  THEIR PARENTS COULD SEND THOSE IN TO

                    US, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE

                    BETTER SO THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THINGS LIVE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.

                    BUT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL NEW YORKERS TO ENGAGE US IN THIS

                    CAMPAIGN WHICH WE'RE CALLING "ASPIRE TO INSPIRE."

                                 AND WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO PROVIDE TODAY'S

                    QUOTE WHICH IS FROM A GREAT LEADER WHO WAS ASSASSINATED BACK IN THE

                    '60S WHEN MANY OF US, AGAIN, WERE NOT EVEN BORN, OR EVEN THOUGHT

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    ABOUT, SOME OF US WERE AND -- IN OUR FORMIDABLE AGES, BUT THIS QUOTE IS

                    FROM MALCOLM X, WHO WAS FROM THE GREAT CITY OR AREA OF HARLEM, IN

                    OUR COLLEAGUE'S INEZ DICKENS' DISTRICT.  AND HIS QUOTE THAT I THINK IS --

                    IS VERY FORMIDABLE FOR TODAY AND ANY TIME, IS THAT, "OF ALL OUR STUDIES,

                    HISTORY IS BEST QUALIFIED TO REWARD OUR RESEARCH.  AND WHEN YOU SEE

                    THAT YOU HAVE GOT PROBLEMS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS EXAMINE THE HISTORIC

                    METHOD USED ALL OVER THE WORLD BY OTHERS WHO HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM

                    SIMILAR TO YOURS.  AND ONCE YOU SEE HOW THEY GOT THEIRS STRAIGHT, THEN

                    YOU WILL KNOW HOW YOU CAN GET YOURS STRAIGHT."  SO, IN OTHER WORDS,

                    OUR BROTHER MALCOLM WAS SUGGESTING TO US THAT HISTORY BEST REWARDS

                    OUR RESEARCH, AND WE SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME LOOKING AT HISTORY SO THAT

                    WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING INTO THE FUTURE.

                                 WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT

                    MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR DESK A MAIN CALENDAR AND AFTER ANY

                    INTRODUCTIONS OR HOUSEKEEPING WE WILL CONTINUE OUR -- TO CONSENT NEW

                    BILLS ON THAT CALENDAR, ON CALENDAR NO. 58, WHICH IS ON PAGE 9.  AND

                    WE ALSO WILL HAVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS OFF THE

                    FLOOR -- I BELIEVE CODES IS STILL MEETING RIGHT NOW AND FOLLOWING THAT,

                    WE WILL DO WAYS AND MEANS AND RULES.  THESE COMMITTEES WILL

                    PRODUCE AN A-CALENDAR, WHICH WE WILL TAKE UP, FOUR BILLS.  AND FOR OUR

                    MAJORITY MEMBERS, THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED FOR A DEMOCRATIC

                    CONFERENCE AT THE SESSION OF TODAY AND, CERTAINLY, WE WILL CONSULT WITH

                    OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A -- A

                    SIMILAR REQUEST.

                                 AND SO, MR. SPEAKER, WITH THAT AS A GENERAL OUTLINE, IF

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    THERE ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE THE

                    APPROPRIATE TIME.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  BUT ONE

                    CORRECTION, MY COLLEAGUE, MALCOLM LIVED ON 97TH STREET, EAST

                    ELMHURST, MY BLOCK, IN EAST ELMHURST, QUEENS.  JUST SO THAT -- YOU

                    KNOW, WE -- WE SHARE HIM WITH THE WORLD, BUT --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THAT -- THAT'S A GREAT --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  -- WE WANT TO BE

                    HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THAT'S A GREAT CORRECTION.

                    THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE HE LIVED WHEN HE WAS ASSASSINATED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  OKAY.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  BUT HE GREW UP IN

                    HARLEM --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THAT'S RIGHT.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  -- WAS RAISED IN HARLEM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  PURPOSES OF A [SIC]

                    INTRODUCTION, MR. CUSICK.

                                 MR. CUSICK:  THANK -- THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    TODAY I RISE FOR A PURPOSE OF AN INTRODUCTION.  I -- TODAY I'M

                    INTRODUCING SOMEONE WHO IS NO STRANGER TO THIS CHAMBER.  HE SERVED

                    HERE FROM 2007 TO 2012, AND IT SEEMS LIKE HE NEVER LEFT HERE.  HIS SPIRIT

                    -- HIS SPIRIT LIVES ON IN THIS CHAMBER.  ANY FUNNY STORY ALWAYS INCLUDES

                    THE NAME LOU TOBACCO.  SO, MR. SPEAKER, ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES

                    FROM STATEN ISLAND, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE LOU TOBACCO, WHO'S NO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    LONGER THE ASSEMBLYMAN, BUT HE SERVED STATEN ISLAND SO WELL AS THE

                    ASSEMBLYMAN, HE CONTINUES HIS WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.  AND FOR

                    THAT, MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU COULD OFFER HIM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE

                    AND WELCOME HIM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM STATEN

                    ISLAND.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. CUSICK AND THE STATEN ISLAND DELEGATION AND ALL OF THE MEMBERS

                    AND THE SPEAKER, LOU, WELCOME BACK.  YOU ARE A FORMER MEMBER, YOU

                    NEED NO REAL INTRODUCTION HERE, AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE PRIVILEGES OF

                    THE FLOOR.  GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE, AND WE'RE ALWAYS PLEASED THAT YOU

                    COME BACK AND JOIN US.  THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. MALLIOTAKIS.

                                 MS. MALLIOTAKIS:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'M

                    VERY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN MY DISTRICT AND ONE OF

                    THE LARGEST NON-PROFITS ON STATEN ISLAND, AS WELL, AND THAT IS STATEN

                    ISLAND UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL AND NORTHWELL HEALTH.  TODAY WE ARE VERY

                    EXCITED TO HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BRAHIM ARDOLIC; FRANK BESIGNANO,

                    WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES; PHIL MANCUSO, WHO IS

                    THE CHAIRMAN OF FOUNDATION BOARD; JOHN DEMOLEAS, WHO IS THE

                    ASSOCIATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS; AND LAURA LONGO,

                    WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF ONCOLOGY; AND, OF COURSE, AS WAS MENTIONED,

                    LOU TOBACCO, THE ASSOCIATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND

                    GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.  AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER

                    AND NON-PROFIT ON STATEN ISLAND AND SO, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO ALSO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    ANNOUNCE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY -- AND I -- I HATE TO MAKE MY

                    COLLEAGUES JEALOUS HERE, ONLY ONE HOSPITAL IN ALL OF NEW YORK CITY THAT

                    EARNED THE HIGHEST RANKING OF THREE STARS FOR CARDIAC BYPASS SURGERY --

                    HEART SURGERY.  AND I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE THEM IN MY DISTRICT.  SO,

                    WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME THEM ON BEHALF OF THE STATEN ISLAND

                    DELEGATION.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. MALLIOTAKIS, THE STATEN ISLAND DELEGATION, WE WELCOME THESE

                    HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY,

                    EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND OUR THANKS AND GRATITUDE

                    FOR THE SERVICE YOU ARE PROVIDING STATEN ISLAND AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR

                    HEALTH NEEDS.  THANK YOU.  AND CONTINUE TO PROSPER AND GROW.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I

                    UNDERSTAND CODES HAS COMPLETED ITS WORK.  WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL

                    WAYS AND MEANS TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  COMMITTEE ON WAYS

                    AND MEANS, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY.  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. RA FOR AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. RA:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  ON BEHALF OF

                    MYSELF, ASSEMBLYMAN TONY D'URSO AND ASSEMBLYWOMAN MISSY

                    MILLER, I'M VERY PROUD TO RECOGNIZE AND WELCOME TO THE FLOOR STUDENTS

                    AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL IN ALBERTSON,

                    NEW YORK DOWN ON LONG ISLAND.  WE HAVE TWO STUDENTS WITH US

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    TODAY, BORUCK NOJOWITZ AND JAZMINE DURAN, THEY'RE BOTH SENIORS AT THE

                    HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL.  THEY ARE JOINED WITH A NUMBER OF

                    ADMINISTRATORS AND TEACHERS, INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE

                    VISCARDI CENTER AND THE HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL, JOHN KEMP.  THE

                    HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL IS A 4201 SCHOOL THAT SERVICES STUDENTS WITH --

                    WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.  AND I'VE BEEN THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES, THEY

                    DO ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS WORK.  THEIR STUDENTS HAVE ACHIEVED GREAT,

                    GREAT THINGS ACADEMICALLY, AND WE'RE -- WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THESE TWO

                    SENIORS VISITING US TODAY, AS WELL AS OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

                    SCHOOL.  IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THEM WITH A WELCOME AND THE CORDIALITIES

                    OF THE HOUSE, I'D APPRECIATE IT.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. RA, MR. D'URSO, MS. MELISSA MILLER, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE

                    MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, THE

                    PEOPLE'S HOUSE.  WE COMMEND YOU ON THE EDUCATIONAL WORK THAT

                    YOU'RE DOING.  WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE THAT WORK AND ALWAYS

                    KNOW THAT YOU ARE WELCOME HERE.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR.  PALUMBO.

                                 MR. PALUMBO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN

                    INTRODUCTION.  I'M DELIGHTED TO BE JOINED IN THE CHAMBER TODAY BY

                    KATHLEEN ZEFF (PHONETIC), WHO HAS NOT BEEN TO THE ALBANY AREA IN

                    ABOUT 30 YEARS, WHEN SHE WAS HERE VISITING A FRIEND IN COLLEGE, WAS HER

                    LAST TIME, AND SHE NEVER MADE IT TO THE CHAMBER.  BUT FORTUNATELY SHE'S

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                    HERE TODAY TO WATCH DEMOCRACY AT WORK.  AND SHE'S ALSO HERE HELPING

                    OUT AND ADVOCATING FOR THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO HER.  THREE

                    YEARS AGO SHE SADLY LOST HER HUSBAND IN A -- IN A CONSTRUCTION ACCIDENT.

                    BUT SHE'S CERTAINLY HERE TODAY TO JOIN US.  AND WOULD YOU PLEASE BE SO

                    KIND AS TO EXTEND THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE AND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE

                    FLOOR TO MS. ZEFF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. PALUMBO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    BACK TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY; LONG TIME BETWEEN TRIPS, BUT

                    THAT'S ALL RIGHT.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, HOPE THAT

                    YOUR DAY HERE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.  AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT

                    YOU'RE DOING TO HELP OTHERS.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. MELISSA MILLER.

                                 MS. MILLER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I WOULD

                    LIKE TO INTRODUCE HERE TODAY PEOPLE FROM THE CP OF NASSAU COUNTY.

                    THEY ARE NOT IN MY DISTRICT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN TAYLOR RAYNOR'S DISTRICT,

                    BUT I HAVE A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH CP NASSAU, SO I WANTED TO HAVE

                    THEM COME BE INTRODUCED ON THE FLOOR.  WE HAVE PATTY VASSILIADOU,

                    MAURA WACHSBERGER, BOB MCGUIRE AND BOB MASTERSON WITH US TODAY.

                    THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS JUST EXTRAORDINARY.  FROM BIRTH TO -- NO AGE

                    LIMIT, THEY JUST -- THEY PROVIDE SO MANY SERVICES IN SCHOOL, IN THE

                    COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR CLINICS, WITH THEIR SCHOOLS, THERE -- IT JUST --

                    THERE'S NO LIMIT.  AND THEY HAVE DONE PHENOMENAL THINGS, AND CONTINUE

                    TO.  THEY'RE JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL PROGRAM.  SO WOULD YOU PLEASE

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                    WELCOME THEM TO THE HOUSE AND OFFER ALL THE CORDIALITIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. MILLER, MS. RAYNOR, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE

                    WELCOME YOU DISTINGUISHED VISITORS TO THE FLOOR.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, HOPE THAT YOU WILL ENJOY YOUR DAY IN ALBANY

                    AND COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.

                    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  AND CONTINUE THAT GREAT WORK.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. BENEDETTO.

                                 MR. BENEDETTO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT,

                    SOME VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TODAY, AND I WAS FORTUNATE

                    ENOUGH TO HAVE SO MANY OF THESE FINE PEOPLE AT MY EDUCATION MEETING

                    THIS MORNING.  PICKING UP WHERE MR. RA LEFT OFF ABOUT THE FINE FOLKS

                    FROM THE HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL, WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS WHICH ARE

                    CLASSIFIED 4201 THAT HAVE COME FROM ALL AROUND THE STATE, BE IT BUFFALO

                    OR ROCHESTER OR THE BRONX BRINGING THEIR STUDENTS UP HERE TODAY.

                                 THEY ARE SCHOOLS, THE 4201 SCHOOLS, THAT TEACH SOME

                    OF THE CHILDREN THAT NEED HELP THE MOST; THOSE WHO ARE BLIND, THOSE

                    WHO ARE DEAF.  AND OUT OF THIS POPULATION, THEY ARE PRODUCING SCHOLARS

                    WITH AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TALENT.  WE WELCOME THE ADMINISTRATORS,

                    THE TEACHERS AND MOST OF ALL, THE STUDENTS THAT HAVE SPENT THE DAY HERE

                    UP IN ALBANY.  WE HOPE IT WAS -- BEEN BENEFICIAL TO YOU; IT CERTAINLY

                    WAS INFORMATIVE TO ALL OF US.  AND I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU WELCOME

                    ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 4201 SCHOOLS WHO ARE HERE TODAY.  THANK

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. BENEDETTO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME ALL OF

                    YOU WHO REPRESENT 40021 [SIC] SCHOOLS -- 4201 SCHOOLS HERE TO THE

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, TO THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.  WE EXTEND TO YOU

                    THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, HOPE THAT YOUR TIME HERE HAS BEEN

                    BENEFICIAL, HOPE THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME ANY TIME YOU

                    COME.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MRS. GALEF.

                                 MRS. GALEF:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THE

                    MAJORITY LEADER INDICATED THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE, GREAT

                    PEOPLE THAT INSPIRE US.  AND I HAVE AS A GUEST TODAY SOMEBODY WHO IS

                    SUCH AN INSPIRATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.  REVEREND JEANETTE PHILLIPS IS

                    HERE IN RECOGNITION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH.  AND REVEREND PHILLIPS

                    WAS ONE WHO STARTED -- WHO HAD A VISION ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO IN THE '70S

                    THAT WE NEEDED HEALTH CARE CLINICS, WE NEEDED HEALTH SERVICES IN

                    NORTHERN WESTCHESTER, AND FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO TRAVEL VERY, VERY

                    LONG DISTANCES TO GET HEALTH CARE WAS NOT RIGHT.  AND SO, SHE WORKED

                    WITH OTHER FRIENDS AND LED THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE PEEKSKILL

                    COMMUNITY THAT AN AMBULATORY HEALTH CARE CENTER OPENED IN 1975.

                    AND NOW THAT CENTER HAS GONE ON, AND SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE VICE

                    PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT CENTER HAS GONE ON TO

                    HAVE 43 HEALTH CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE HUDSON VALLEY, NEW YORK CITY

                    AND LONG ISLAND.  AND THAT, I WOULD SAY, IS SO INSPIRATIONAL.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                                 SHE ALSO SERVES AS A REVEREND AT THE -- SHE'S AN

                    ASSOCIATE MINISTER OF THE PARKS STREET AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL

                    ZION CHURCH.  AND IF I -- IF I CONNECTED WITH THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT

                    HAVE A MINISTER HERE TODAY, AND JEANETTE'S SITTING THERE, WE COULD'VE

                    DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT.  SO, I'M VERY, VERY SORRY.  SHE IS A GREAT ASSET

                    TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND THE

                    HEALTH CARE COMMUNITY.  AND IT IS OUR PRIVILEGE TO HAVE HER HERE TODAY.

                    AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL BE VOTING ON A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF

                    REVEREND PHILLIPS AND DURING THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH.  SO, I WOULD

                    ASK FOR YOU TO GIVE ALL YOUR CORDIALITIES TO REVEREND PHILLIPS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MRS. GALEF, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, REVEREND PHILLIPS,

                    WELCOME HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  WE HOPE THAT THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN TO REWARD

                    YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR LIFE.  CONGRATULATIONS.  AND

                    EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T COME AND OFFER US PRAYER, WE HOPE YOU WILL

                    KEEP US IN YOUR PRAYERS, BECAUSE WE NEED THAT ALL THE TIME.  THANK YOU

                    SO VERY MUCH, AND CONGRATULATIONS.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. FAHY.

                                 MS. FAHY:  THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    RISE FOR AN INTRODUCTION.  TODAY IS LIBRARY ADVOCACY DAY AND IT GIVES

                    ME GREAT PLEASURE TO -- TO WELCOME, ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND

                    ASSEMBLYMAN JOHN MCDONALD, IT GIVES ME GREAT PRIVILEGE TO WELCOME

                    THE ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL BOOK CLUB.  THEY RETURN TODAY TO THE CAPITOL

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                    TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR LIBRARIES, AND JOINING MANY, MANY ADVOCATES

                    TODAY.  THIS IS A VERY POPULAR AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM WHICH FEATURES

                    AUTHORS' VISITS, FIELD TRIPS, LIBRARY EVENTS, AND IT STRESSES THE VALUES OF

                    LIBRARIES IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR COMMUNITIES.  THESE STUDENTS

                    ANNUALLY CONDUCT FUNDRAISERS, HOLD -- HOST AUTHORS, THEY DO A LIBRARY

                    LOCK-IN, AND -- AND EVEN CELEBRATE A FREE COMIC BOOK DAY.

                                 I'M GOING TO NAME THE -- THE STUDENTS BRIEFLY:  IT'S

                    BREONA THOMAS, DANVASS GEKONGE, GEORGE POUNDS, ISAIAH BUDDEAU,

                    JADAN MOORE, JIHANA JITU, KARLA GERONIMO RODRIGUEZ, LULHEILY COLON,

                    MEHREEN KHAN, NUMAIR KHAN, SAIARA ALAM, SHAMYLA BHATTI, VAUGHN

                    ALBERT, CARRIE BIRCH (PHONETIC), AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW OF THEIR

                    INSTRUCTORS AND ADULTS WITH US, AND IT'S SUSAN D'ENTREMONT; JEN KANEL

                    (PHONETIC); KRISTEN MAJKUT, THE ALBANY HIGH LIBRARIAN, AND EMILY

                    VISCUSO, THE -- THE U-ALBANY SCHOOL LIBRARIAN, AND DANIEL MOORE.

                                 I AM MY -- THIS IS THE SCHOOL THAT BOTH OF MY CHILDREN

                    GRADUATED FROM, SO IT MAKES ME A LITTLE HOMESICK TO SEE THAT MY OWN

                    TWO AREN'T WITH THEM, THEY'RE BOTH RECENT GRADUATES.  AND IF YOU WOULD,

                    MR. -- MS. SPEAKER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GRANT THEM THE CORDIALITIES --

                    WELCOME THEM AND GRANT THEM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  CERTAINLY.  ON

                    BEHALF OF MS. FAHY, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME

                    THESE DISTINGUISHED GUESTS TO THE CHAMBER, EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE

                    FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS.  THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES FOR AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER.  I RISE TO -- ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND ALL THE WOMEN OF THE

                    LEGISLATURE, PARTICULARLY ASSEMBLYWOMAN NILY ROZIC, TO INTRODUCE

                    MEMBERS OF -- WOMEN WHO ARE HERE IN OUR CHAMBERS TODAY WHO ARE

                    FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP - ARE THEY

                    STILL HERE?  THERE THEY ARE.

                                 MADAM SPEAKER, THESE WOMEN WORK HARD AND TRAIN IN

                    PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO WORK ON THEIR LEADERSHIP SKILLS.  MOST OF

                    THESE ARE STUDENTS THAT ARE WITH THEM, HOWEVER, MICHELLE GONCALVES IS

                    THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS DEPUTY CHANCELLOR, IS WITH THEM HERE

                    TODAY.  SO, MADAM LEADER, AS YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED WOMEN PREPARED

                    FOR LEADERSHIP.  SO, IF YOU COULD EXTEND TO THESE WONDERFUL WOMEN THE

                    CORDIALITIES OF OUR FLOOR AND WELCOME THEM HERE, I WOULD BE GREATLY

                    APPRECIATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  THANK YOU, MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.  ON BEHALF OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES AND MS. ROZIC, THE

                    SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE DISTINGUISHED

                    STUDENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS TO THE CHAMBER.  I HAD

                    THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING AND SPEAKING WITH THEM EARLIER, THEY'RE

                    DELIGHTFUL AND VERY COMMITTED.  WE EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR

                    AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS.  THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

                    US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3, CLERK WILL READ.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                              FEBRUARY 27, 2019


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 119, MR.

                    JONES.  LEGISLATION RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR M. CUOMO TO

                    PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2019 AS PARENT RECOGNITION MONTH IN THE STATE OF

                    NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  ON THE

                    RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE

                    RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 120, MS.

                    JOYNER.  LEGISLATION RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW M.

                    CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MARCH 2ND, 2019 AS READ ACROSS AMERICA DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  ON THE

                    RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE

                    RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 PAGE 9, CALENDAR NO. 58, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A01945, CALENDAR NO.

                    58, ZEBROWSKI, GALEF, CAHILL, COLTON, ABBATE, GUNTHER, M. G. MILLER,

                    SEAWRIGHT, BICHOTTE, BRONSON, OTIS, WEPRIN, WALLACE, CRUZ.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A

                    TIME PERIOD IN WHICH AN ACTION TO RECOVER DAMAGES FOR INJURY ARISING

                    FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MUST BE BROUGHT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  THE BILL IS LAID

                    ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02331, CALENDAR NO.

                    59, DINOWITZ, DENDEKKER, M. G. MILLER, BRONSON, MOSLEY,

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                    CYMBROWITZ, BENEDETTO, SIMOTAS, CUSICK, GUNTHER, GOTTFRIED,

                    PICHARDO, BARRON, COOK, GALEF, COLTON, ARROYO, CRESPO, HUNTER, PERRY.

                    AN ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW AND THE EXECUTIVE LAW,

                    IN RELATION TO ENABLING VETERANS AND RESERVISTS TO RECEIVE BENEFIT

                    INFORMATION UPON APPLYING FOR OR RENEWING A DRIVER'S LICENSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 180TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTES.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MADAM SPEAKER, I

                    REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS THAT ARE IN WAYS AND MEANS, BUT

                    FOR THE MEMBERS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBERS OR ANYWHERE NEAR AND

                    AROUND, IF YOU COULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE, THIS IS OUR FIRST VOTE OF THE

                    DAY.  THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH, BUT WITH --

                    THE FASTER WE GET THROUGH, THE SOONER WE'LL BE DONE.  MADAM SPEAKER,

                    IF YOU COULD HAVE MEMBERS PLEASE COME IN AND VOTE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  FIRST VOTE OF THE

                    DAY.  MEMBERS, PLEASE VOTE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MADAM SPEAKER, WAYS

                    AND MEANS HAS COMPLETED ITS WORK.  WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULES

                    COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM, IMMEDIATELY.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  RULES

                    COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE, MICHAEL

                    MILLER, INTRODUCE SOME GUESTS HE HAS IN THE CHAMBERS.  THEY'RE FROM

                    THE NEW AMERICAN VOTERS NEPALI SOCIETY:  MOHAN GYAWALI CHHETRI,

                    DR. DILIP NATH, ROKAYA AKHTER AND GYANAL THAPA.  IF YOU WOULD

                    PLEASE WELCOME THESE GUESTS ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE, MR. MILLER,

                    MADAM SPEAKER, WE WOULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  ON BEHALF OF MR.

                    MICHAEL MILLER AND MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE

                    MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE DISTINGUISHED GUESTS TO THE CHAMBER,

                    EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS.

                    THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02374, CALENDAR NO.

                    60, DINOWITZ, BUCHWALD, GOTTFRIED, SIMON, SEAWRIGHT, SIMOTAS,

                    BARRON, THIELE, FAHY, WRIGHT, GUNTHER, SOLAGES, ORTIZ, BRAUNSTEIN,

                    WILLIAMS, OTIS, L. ROSENTHAL, SANTABARBARA, GALEF.  AN ACT TO AMEND

                    THE GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING A CONSUMER CREDIT

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                    REPORTING AGENCY TO OFFER IDENTITY THEFT PREVENTION AND MITIGATION

                    SERVICES IN THE CASE OF A BREACH OF THE SECURITY OF SUCH AGENCY'S

                    SYSTEM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IN 60 DAYS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02501, CALENDAR NO.

                    61, ENGLEBRIGHT, THIELE, COLTON, GALEF, L. ROSENTHAL, FAHY, ABINANTI,

                    OTIS, PICHARDO, GOTTFRIED, GLICK, D'URSO, FERNANDEZ, WEPRIN.  AN ACT

                    TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE

                    REDUCTION OF MERCURY IN MERCURY-ADDED LAMPS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU

                    WOULD ADVANCE THE A-CALENDAR, WHICH WE ALL NOW HAVE ON OUR DESKS,

                    AND WE WILL START ON PAGE 3 WITH RULES REPORT NO. 30, MR. DILAN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES' MOTION, THE A-CALENDAR IS ADVANCED.

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03425, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 30, DILAN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES TO INCLUDE

                    PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04204, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 31, WEPRIN, CAHILL, PAULIN, RAMOS, M. G. MILLER, QUART, AUBRY,

                    SEAWRIGHT, BARRON, VANEL, HEVESI.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION AGAINST RELIGIOUS ATTIRE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

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                    REQUESTED, MR. WEPRIN.

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  A4977

                    ADDS LANGUAGE TO PARAGRAPH (A) OF SUBDIVISION 10 OF SECTION 296 OF THE

                    EXECUTIVE LAW, ALSO KNOWN AS THE NEW YORK STATE HUMAN RIGHTS

                    LAW, TO CLARIFY THAT IT IS AN UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICE FOR AN

                    EMPLOYER TO REQUIRE A PERSON TO VIOLATE OR FOREGO THE WEARING OF

                    RELIGIOUS ATTIRE OR FACIAL HAIR IN ACCORDANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF HIS OR

                    HER RELIGION, UNLESS THE EMPLOYER DEMONSTRATES THAT IT IS UNABLE TO

                    REASONABLY ACCOMMODATE THE PERSON'S RELIGIOUS PRACTICE WITHOUT UNDUE

                    HARDSHIP ON THE CONDUCT OF THE EMPLOYER'S BUSINESS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. RA.

                                 BUT BEFORE MR. RA, MEMBERS, WE ARE ON DEBATE.

                    PLEASE, IF YOU'RE HAVING CONFERENCES IN THE AISLES, PLEASE TAKE THEM TO

                    THE BACK.

                                 PROCEED, MR. RA.

                                 MR. RA:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  ABSOLUTELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. WEPRIN YIELDS.

                                 MR. RA:  THANK YOU.  WE JUST A HAD A COUPLE OF

                    QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS.  MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS CAME ABOUT AS A

                    RESULT OF A SITUATION WITH -- WITH AN INDIVIDUAL IN A -- IN A UNIFORM.

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  YES.

                                 MR. RA:  CORRECT?  SO, IT'S DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE

                    TYPES OF SITUATIONS.  BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER -- IS THE EXCEPTION

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                    APPLICABLE, SAY, IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A SAFETY -- MAYBE IT'S, YOU

                    KNOW, A FACTORY FLOOR OR SOMETHING OF THAT -- OF THAT NATURE, WHERE THE

                    PIECE OF ATTIRE COULD -- COULD BECOME, YOU KNOW, ENTANGLED OR BE A

                    SAFETY PROBLEM?

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  ABSOLUTELY, THAT WOULD COME UNDER

                    THE EXCEPTION THAT THE EMPLOYER WOULD DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE'S A

                    DANGER TO PUBLIC SAFETY, TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR OTHERS, AND THAT WOULD

                    CERTAINLY COME UNDER THE RELIGIOUS -- THE EXCEPTION.

                                 MR. RA:  OKAY.  AND THEN, ALSO IN SOMEWHAT OF A

                    SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT -- BUT NOT DIRECTLY A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT -- OR

                    PERHAPS A SANITARY ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IN A -- IN A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT

                    SITUATION, WOULD THAT ALSO BE WITHIN THE EXCEPTION?

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  WELL, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE EMPLOYER

                    TO ESTABLISH THAT THERE -- THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.

                                 MR. RA:  OKAY.

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  BUT IF HE -- IF HE COULD SHOW THAT IT

                    WAS A PROBLEM FOR SAFETY OF A -- THE INDIVIDUAL OR OTHERS THROUGH THE

                    FOOD INDUSTRY, THAT COULD BE -- THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION.

                                 MR. RA:  OKAY.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. RA:  THANK YOU.  I -- I THANK MR. WEPRIN FOR --

                    FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.  THIS IS CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, RELIGIOUS

                    FREEDOM AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO DRESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH -- WITH

                    THEIR BELIEFS AND AS REQUIRED BY THEIR BELIEFS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT

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                    WE SHOULD PROTECT AND, YOU KNOW, IS A LAUDABLE GOAL.  I DO HOPE THAT AS

                    WE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD IF -- IF ANY OF THOSE

                    TYPES OF ISSUES COME UP, THAT WE MAKE SURE IT'S -- IT'S CLEAR THAT IN THOSE

                    CIRCUMSTANCES THAT -- THAT THE EMPLOYER, YOU KNOW, WHO WAS MAKING A

                    REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO -- TO ACCOMMODATE THE EMPLOYEE, BUT -- BUT HAS,

                    YOU KNOW, A SAFETY OR SANITARY CONCERN RELATED TO THE OPERATING OF THEIR

                    BUSINESS, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE -- THEY ARE PROTECTED AS WELL.

                    SO, I KNOW A NUMBER OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE VOTED AGAINST THIS IN THE

                    PAST FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH -- WITH REGARD TO THOSE CONCERNS, BUT -- BUT I

                    HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD WE CAN -- WE CAN CONTINUE IF WE

                    NEED TO FURTHER ADDRESS THE ISSUE.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION --

                                 MR. EICHENSTEIN.

                                 MR. EICHENSTEIN:  ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. EICHENSTEIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    RISE TODAY TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION PROHIBITING

                    DISCRIMINATION AGAINST RELIGIOUS ATTIRE.  BEING THAT FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS

                    EXPRESSION IS ONE OF THE MOST BASIC VALUES THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED

                    ON, I'M STUNNED THAT THIS ISSUE IS STILL UP FOR DEBATE IN 2019.  HIJABS,

                    TURBANS, YARMULKES, THESE ARE GARMENTS WORN BY RELIGIOUS INDIVIDUALS

                    AS A PRACTICE OF OUR FAITH.  NOBODY SHOULD EVER BE FORCED TO CHOOSE

                    BETWEEN THEIR EMPLOYMENT OR THEIR RELIGION AND TODAY, WE CAN MAKE A

                    STEP -- WE CAN TAKE A STEP FORWARD ON THE ROAD TOWARDS ERADICATING

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                    DISCRIMINATION AND INTOLERANCE.  AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR

                    FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD.

                                 AS THE MOST DIVERSE STATE IN THE NATION, WE NEED TO

                    LEAD BY EXAMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION, JUST AS

                    I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO STAND HERE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THIS BODY

                    AND I DON'T HAVE TO COMPROMISE MY DRESS, MY BELIEFS, MY VALUES, MY

                    WAY OF LIFE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE NATION

                    UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. WEPRIN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'D LIKE --

                    I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS BILL MAY FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME ACTUALLY PASS IN

                    THE STATE SENATE.  AND I'D LIKE TO DEDICATE THE BILL TO KEVIN HARRINGTON.

                    THE STORY OF KEVIN HARRINGTON IS WHAT PROMPTED ME TO INTRODUCE THIS

                    LEGISLATION.  KEVIN HARRINGTON WAS BORN AN IRISH CATHOLIC WHO

                    CONVERTED TO SIKHISM MANY YEARS AGO.  AND HE WAS A TRAIN OPERATOR AT

                    THE FRONT OF THE TRAIN FOR THE E-TRAIN, WHICH THOSE OF YOU FROM QUEENS

                    AND NEW YORK CITY KNOW GOES IN -- INTO AND OUT OF THE WORLD TRADE

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                    CENTER.  AND HE WAS A HERO DURING 9/11.  HE ACTUALLY DROVE THE E-TRAIN

                    BACK AND FORTH WHILE THE BUILDINGS WERE BURNING IN THE WORLD TRADE

                    CENTER AND ACTUALLY RESCUED HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUALS AND BROUGHT THEM

                    TO THEIR SAFETY WHILE HE WAS RISKING HIS LIFE.  BUT HOW DID -- WHAT DID

                    THE MTA DO TO REWARD HIM?  WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AFTER 9/11, THE

                    MTA GOT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC

                    COMPLAINING THAT THERE WAS A TERRORIST DRIVING THE E-TRAIN.  AND WHY

                    DID THEY SAY THAT?  BECAUSE HE HAD A LONG BEARD AND A TURBAN, AND

                    RESEMBLED OSAMA BIN LADEN.  SO, FOR THE KEVIN HARRINGTON'S OF THE

                    WORLD AND TO PUT AN END TO IGNORANCE AND DISCRIMINATION, I WITHDRAW

                    MY REQUEST AND PROUDLY VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. WEPRIN IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05975, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 32, REYES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF PREGNANCY-RELATED CONDITION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. REYES TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

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                                 MS. REYES:  GOOD AFTERNOON.  SO, I JUST WANT TO

                    SPEAK ON THE BILL TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  HUMAN MILK IS THE MOST NATURAL

                    AND MOST COMPLETE SOURCE OF NUTRITION FOR INFANTS.  THE VALUE OF

                    BREASTFEEDING FOR INFANT NUTRITION AND MATERNAL HEALTH OUTCOMES HAS

                    BEEN LONG RECOGNIZED.  FOR MOTHERS, BREASTFEEDING HAS BEEN FOUND TO

                    REDUCE THE RISK OF BREAST CANCER, OVARIAN CANCER, FOR INFANTS IT HELPS

                    BUILD IMMUNITY.  THIS -- THOUGH WE HAVE PASSED LEGISLATION THAT

                    PROTECTS PREGNANCY-RELATED CONDITIONS, THIS BILL AMENDS THE DEFINITION

                    OF PREGNANCY-RELATED CONDITIONS TO INCLUDE LACTATION.  I THINK IN THE

                    INTERESTS OF THE HEALTH OF OUR INFANTS AND THE HEALTH OF OUR MOTHERS AND

                    FAMILIES, WE SHOULD BE REQUIRING EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE REASONABLE

                    ACCOMMODATIONS FOR MOTHERS TO BREASTFEED.  THANK YOU.  I WILL BE

                    VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. REYES IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 CONGRATULATIONS, MS. REYES, YOUR FIRST, I BELIEVE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 GREAT BILL.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 IT ONLY HAPPENS ONCE, MS. REYES.

                                 (LAUGHTER)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05976, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 33, WRIGHT, PEOPLES-STOKES, BARRON, BICHOTTE, COOK, CRESPO, DE

                    LA ROSA, GALEF, O'DONNELL, ROZIC, SEAWRIGHT, SIMON, TAYLOR, L.

                    ROSENTHAL, HUNTER, GLICK, ARROYO, ORTIZ, NIOU, GOTTFRIED, SIMOTAS,

                    WALLACE, OTIS, BRONSON, WEPRIN, FALL.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE

                    FINANCE LAW, THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES THE PUBLIC OFFICERS

                    LAW, THE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS LAW, THE LABOR LAW AND THE EXECUTIVE

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO DISCRIMINATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MS. WRIGHT.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THIS BILL IS A MEASURE TO ASSIST OUR

                    SMALL -- ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES IN NEW YORK STATE IN HELPING THEM TO

                    CREATE SAFE AND NON-DISCRIMINATORY WORKPLACES.  DISCRIMINATION IS

                    TOXIC TO OUR WORK ENVIRONMENTS AND THIS LEGISLATION IS A

                    COMPREHENSIVE MEASURE TO ASSIST EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES IN

                    MAINTAINING A WORKPLACE FREE OF DISCRIMINATION.  IT PROVIDES

                    DISCRIMINATION PREVENTION POLICY, AS WELL AS TRAINING MATERIALS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  WOULD THE SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WILL YOU YIELD, MS.

                    WRIGHT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. WRIGHT.

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                    TO BE CLEAR, NONE OF US IN THIS ROOM SUPPORT DISCRIMINATION IN THE

                    WORKPLACE.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  DEFINITELY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO, THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS NOT

                    WHETHER OR NOT WE SUPPORT DISCRIMINATION, BUT WHETHER OR NOT WE

                    SUPPORT THE LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME,

                    RIGHT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  I CAN -- I CAN AGREE TO THAT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO, I WANTED TO START BY FIRST ASKING

                    YOU TO KIND OF DEFINE THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL.  IN PREVIOUS BILLS WHERE WE

                    REQUIRED EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE ANTI-DISCRIMINATION TRAINING AND A

                    PROGRAM AND WHATNOT AND WE JUST KICKED THAT OFF THIS YEAR, EMPLOYERS

                    ALL ACROSS THE STATE DID THAT, BUT WE LIMITED THAT MANDATE TO EMPLOYERS

                    WITH FOUR OR MORE EMPLOYEES.  THIS BILL ELIMINATES THE REQUIREMENT

                    THAT THERE BE AT LEAST FOUR EMPLOYEES, CORRECT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  IT DOES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND SO, THIS BILL WOULD NOW APPLY

                    TO ANY EMPLOYER, EVEN IF IT WAS ONE JUST EMPLOYEE.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND IT LIKEWISE IT WOULD APPLY

                    EVEN IF THAT ONE EMPLOYEE WAS PART-TIME?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OR SEASONAL?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OR PART-TIME AND SEASONAL?

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                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS

                    WORKING FOR, YOU SAY, FOUR HOURS A MONTH, CAME IN ONE DAY A WEEK,

                    YOU WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE A [SIC] ANTI-DISCRIMINATION TRAINING

                    PROGRAM THAT'S INTERACTIVE AS APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  AND PROVIDE -- IT WILL BE NOT ONLY

                    MANDATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, BUT DESIGNED AND OFFERED TO

                    YOU FREE OF CHARGE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, HOW LONG DOES THIS

                    INTERACTIVE DISCRIMINATION PROGRAM, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GO

                    THROUGH IT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  APPROXIMATELY -- I BELIEVE IT'S AN

                    HOUR OF TRAINING.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OKAY.  AND THIS WOULD APPLY IN THE

                    MORE IMMEDIATE CONTEXT DEALING WITH MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS, ANY TIME

                    YOU HAD AN EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS FOR

                    A PARENT-CHILD, SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GIVE DISCRIMINATION TRAINING IF

                    YOU WERE HIRING YOUR CHILD.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  RIGHT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OR BETWEEN A SPOUSE.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I, LIKE MANY MEN, GET REGULAR

                    TRAINING BY OUR SPOUSE ON A RAFT-LOAD OF ISSUES ALREADY, AND THE ANSWER,

                    BY THE WAY, IS YES, DEAR.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  (LAUGHTER) GOOD ANSWER.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  IT DIDN'T REALLY TAKE ME AN HOUR TO

                    FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT...

                                 BUT IT WOULD ALSO NOT APPLY TO CERTAIN DOMESTIC

                    WORKERS, CORRECT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  RIGHT, THAT IS CORRECT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  BUT THIS IS NOT TRIGGERED BY

                    WHETHER OR NOT THE EMPLOYER IS COMPLYING WITH OUR LABOR LAWS IN

                    TERMS OF FILING A W-2, RIGHT?  IT WOULD APPLY WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO A

                    W-2 OR A 1099?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS CLEAR

                    BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE 1099S DO NOT CONSIDER THOSE WORKERS AS

                    THEIR EMPLOYEES.  THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONTRACTING.  AND SO,

                    USUALLY, WHEN YOU'RE PROVIDING A 1099, THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE

                    CONTRACT WORKERS WHO ARE NOT YOUR EMPLOYEE, FOR WHOM YOU ALSO DON'T

                    CARRY DISABILITY OR WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE.  SO THEY'RE NOT -- THEY'RE

                    OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY CHARACTERIZE AS AN

                    EMPLOYEE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS

                    STATUTORY LANGUAGE OR IN THE SECTION 292 OF THE EXECUTIVE LAW THAT

                    MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THOSE WHO ARE WORKING PURSUANT TO A 1099 ARE NOT

                    INCLUDED WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF AN "EMPLOYEE"?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS BILL THAT SAYS

                    SPECIFICALLY "CONTRACT WORKERS ARE NOT YOUR EMPLOYEES"; HOWEVER, WE

                    ALSO HAVE CLEAR DEFINITIONS OF "CONTRACT WORKERS" BEING INDEPENDENT

                    CONTRACTORS, SO THEY ARE -- THEY DO NOT FALL IN, I DON'T THINK, THAT I'M

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                    AWARE OF, OF ANY DEFINITION AS "YOUR EMPLOYEE".

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OKAY.  SO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF

                    CONTRACTED WORKERS --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  MM-HMM.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- IT'S VERY BROAD.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- AND WOULD INCLUDE ANYONE,

                    REGARDLESS OF HOW LITTLE OR HOW INFREQUENTLY THEY WORK FOR THE

                    EMPLOYER.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  IS THERE A TIME REQUIREMENT THAT

                    WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, WEEKS OR MONTHS THE EMPLOYER MUST

                    PROVIDE THIS TRAINING?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THERE IS NOT ANYTHING STATED IN HERE;

                    HOWEVER, EACH -- I BELIEVE THAT THE GUIDANCE WILL BE COMING FROM THE

                    DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ON HOW FREQUENTLY AND REGULARLY YOU SHOULD BE

                    PROVIDING THIS TRAINING TO YOUR STAFF.  SO, IT DOES NOT PUT A TIME LIMIT ON

                    FROM THE DATE OF HIRE TO WHEN THEY MUST HAVE THE TRAINING, BUT IT WILL

                    BE GUIDANCE ON HOW FREQUENTLY WE SHOULD SEE IT, AND IT SHOULD BE

                    ANNUALLY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  ARE YOU AWARE OF THE NUMBER OF

                    EMPLOYERS IN NEW YORK STATE THAT EMPLOY AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYEE?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT NUMBER, BUT I

                    DO KNOW THAT EVERY EMPLOYER HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE A SAFE

                    WORK ENVIRONMENT AND TO MEET REGULATIONS DICTATED BY THE STATE.  AND

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                    IF WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO THEM TO BE -- TO OBLIGE, TO

                    BECOME IN COMPLIANCE WITH IT, THEN IT'S NOT TRULY A BURDEN FOR THEM TO

                    DEDICATE ONE HOUR, BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER TRAINING AND/OR

                    CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO WORK.  IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS

                    ANYBODY THAT HAS TO GET, SAY, FOOD HANDLERS' LICENSES TO SERVE COFFEE,

                    THEY NOW HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE CERTIFICATION THAT

                    PROVES THAT THEY HAVE UNDERGONE ANTI-DISCRIMINATION TRAINING.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  MOVING ON A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE --

                    YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING CONCEPT, THAT WE REQUIRE

                    YOUR SOLE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE TO UNDERGO COMPREHENSIVE

                    DISCRIMINATION AWARENESS POLICIES THAT WOULDN'T APPLY TO ANY OTHER

                    EMPLOYEE SINCE IT'S THE ONLY EMPLOYEE THAT YOU HAVE, WHEN WE ALREADY

                    BAR ANY DISCRIMINATION BY THE EMPLOYER ONE-ON-ONE.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  WELL --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  BUT -- BUT THERE'S OTHER PROVISIONS,

                    IF WE MAY MOVE ON.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  GO AHEAD.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THIS BANS MANDATORY ARBITRATION

                    CLAUSES --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- UNLESS IT'S PART OF A COLLECTIVE

                    BARGAINING AGREEMENT; IS THAT CORRECT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THIS DOES NOT UNDERMINE A COLLECTIVE

                    BARGAINING AGREEMENT.  WHAT THIS DOES IS ALLOWS FOR ANYONE WHO IS

                    FACING DISCRIMINATION TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT TO GO TO COURT.

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                    SO, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU MAY NOT AVAIL YOURSELF OF ARBITRATION, WE'RE

                    SAYING THAT IT MAY NOT BE FORCED UPON AN EMPLOYEE.  AND, THEREFORE, IF

                    THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN AN EXISTING AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THERE IS

                    MANDATORY ARBITRATION RELATED TO THE DISCRIMINATION, JUST LIKE MOST

                    OTHER CONTRACTS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEVER THAT CLAUSE FROM THE

                    CONTRACT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTENT, THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE

                    DOCUMENT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AS YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES THE

                    ARBITRATION PROVISIONS ARE PROVISIONS THAT ARE REQUESTED AND NEGOTIATED

                    BY THE EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATIVES, BY THE UNION.  IT'S A -- IT'S A RIGHT THAT

                    THE UNION WANTS TO HAVE IN ORDER TO FORCE ARBITRATION, WHICH IS OFTEN

                    FASTER AND LESS EXPENSIVE, AND UNIONS VIEW THAT AS A POSITIVE PROVISION

                    IN THE CONTRACT.  BUT DOESN'T THIS ELIMINATE OR UNDERCUT THAT CONCEPT?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  IF IT'S RELATED TO DISCRIMINATION, IT

                    MOST DEFINITELY DOES REMOVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ENFORCE

                    MANDATORY ARBITRATION.  IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY CANNOT STILL AVAIL

                    THEMSELVES OF IT, BECAUSE THEY -- THE PARTIES CAN AGREE TO ELECT TO GO TO

                    ARBITRATION.  WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT THEY MAY NOT MANDATE ARBITRATION ON

                    AN EMPLOYEE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, THERE'S ANOTHER PROVISION,

                    AND THIS DEALS WITH NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.  I CAN'T REMEMBER --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND IT PROVIDES THAT YOU CANNOT

                    HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT EITHER AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT OR AS

                    PART OF A JUDGMENT, AS I UNDER -- WELL, AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT, UNLESS IT'S

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                    THE COMPLAINANT'S PREFERENCE.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  WHAT -- WHAT'S MEANT BY

                    "PREFERENCE"?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THEIR CHOICE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OKAY.  SO, LET'S SAY THE EMPLOYER

                    SAYS, WE DON'T AGREE THAT THERE WAS ANY DISCRIMINATION WHATSOEVER, BUT

                    WE DON'T WANT TO INCUR THE COST OF LITIGATION, AND THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE

                    TO OUR REPUTATION, EVEN IF WE'RE PROVEN TO BE NON-DISCRIMINATORY, SO

                    WE'RE WILLING TO SETTLE THIS UPON A PAYMENT OF X DOLLARS, BUT ON THE

                    CONDITION THAT YOU DON'T DESTROY OUR REPUTATION ON A CLAIM --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  SO, THAT MEANS THAT THE --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  WELL, THAT MEANS THAT THE -- THAT

                    MEANS THE CLAIMANT WOULD HAVE THE CHOICE, AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY

                    HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE IT.  IT IS A CHOICE.  THE -- WE'RE JUST

                    SAYING IT CANNOT BE MANDATED THAT THEY CANNOT -- IT CANNOT BE FORCED

                    UPON THEM.  SO, I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE IS... WHERE IS IT...

                                 MR. GOODELL:  IT'S ON PAGE 3 STARTING ON LINE --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  -- EMPLOYER --

                                 MR.  GOODELL:  FOUR.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  RIGHT.  SO, IT'S THEIR -- UNLESS THE

                    CLAIMANT AGREES TO IT.  SO, IT'S SAYING THAT THE OFFICERS CANNOT

                    AUTOMATICALLY MANDATE -- THE OFFICERS -- THE COMPANY NOR ITS OFFICERS

                    ARE ABLE TO AUTOMATICALLY MANDATE THIS.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  ALL RIGHT.  THEN THE -- EVEN IF YOU

                    HAVE A SETTLEMENT AND THAT SETTLEMENT INCLUDES A NON-DISCLOSURE

                    PROVISION --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THE SETTLEMENT THAT IS AGREED TO BY

                    THE CLAIMANT --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  RIGHT.

                                 MS. WRIGHT: -- CAN HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE;

                    HOWEVER, THEN THERE ARE TERMS FOR A SEVEN-DAY WAIT PERIOD, AS WELL AS A

                    21-DAY -- I THINK THERE'S ALSO A 21-DAY TERM IN THERE FOR IT TO BE -- FOR

                    THEM TO HAVE TIME FOR IT TO BE REVIEWED.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  RIGHT.  21 DAYS TO HAVE IT

                    REVIEWED, AND THEN A SEVEN-DAY RECISION PROVISION.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  WHICH MEANS, IN ESSENCE, THAT A

                    SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT COULD NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE FOR FOUR WEEKS.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  ALL THE TERMS --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  IF IT CONTAINS --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  -- WITH EXCEPTION OF THE -- SO, YES.

                    I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  IF IT CONTAINS A NON-DISCLOSURE.

                    WHAT IF THE CLAIMANT WANTS TO BE PAID SOONER THAN FOUR WEEKS?  CAN

                    THE CLAIMANT WAIVE THOSE TIMEFRAMES?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  THIS DOES NOT PROHIBIT WAIVER.  BUT

                    IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC POLICY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SET HERE, AND

                    PROTECTION OF WORKERS' RIGHTS, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT THEM NOT TO

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                    WAIVE THE RIGHTS THAT WE ARE SPECIFICALLY DELINEATING IN THIS PIECE OF

                    LEGISLATION.  SO, WHILE WE ARE NOT FORBIDDING IT OUTRIGHT, IT IS SOMETHING

                    THAT IS AGAINST PUBLIC POLICY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OKAY.  NOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING

                    AT THE DEFINITION OF "EMPLOYER", WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITION

                    OF "EMPLOYEE".

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND I SEE THE DEFINITION OF

                    "EMPLOYEE" IS NOT BEING AMENDED THIS BILL, BUT I WANTED TO JUST TRACK

                    THAT DOWN.  NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE DEFINITION OF AN "EMPLOYEE" IS

                    CONTAINED IN SECTION 292, SUBPARAGRAPH 6 OF THE EXECUTIVE LAW.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  OKAY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND THAT COVERS EVERYONE EXCEPT

                    DOMESTIC PERSONS AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 296-B OF THE EXECUTIVE LAW.

                    AND SECTION 296-B DESCRIBES DOMESTIC WORKERS AS HAVING THE MEANING

                    AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 2 OF THE LABOR LAW.  AND SECTION 2 OF THE LABOR

                    LAW IN SUBPARAGRAPH 16 HAS A COMPLEX DEFINITION WHICH REFERS TO

                    SECTION 213 OF THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT OF 1938.  WOULD YOU LIKE

                    TO WALK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE CROSS-REFERENCES AND EXCEPTIONS SO WE

                    KNOW WHAT'S COVERED?  THAT -- YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO ANSWER THAT

                    QUESTION.  MY REAL QUESTION WAS THIS, BECAUSE I -- TO BE HONEST WITH

                    YOU, IT WOULD TAKE ME A HALF AN HOUR TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE

                    CROSS-REFERENCES, AND EVEN THEN, I'M NOT SURE EITHER OF US WOULD

                    UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHO IS COVERED, WITH NO DISRESPECT.

                                 SO, MY QUESTION IS, DON'T WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

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                    ARTICLE III, SECTION 16 OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION WHICH SAYS, "NO ACT

                    SHALL BE PASSED THAT SHALL PROVIDE THAT ANY EXISTING LAW OR PART THEREOF

                    SHALL BE MADE OR DEEMED PART OF THE ACT UNLESS IT'S INSERTED IN THE TEXT."

                    IN OTHER WORDS, THE CONSTITUTION REFERS, IT SEEMS TO ME, EXPRESSLY

                    PROHIBITS THESE MULTIPLE INCORPORATIONS BY REFERENCE.  WOULDN'T YOU

                    AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE NICE --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  SO THAT'S ONE INTERPRETATION.

                                 MR. GOODELL: -- IF WE HAD A DEFINITION THAT WE

                    COULD READ AND UNDERSTAND WITHOUT LOOKING UP SIX OTHER LAWS?

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS -- THAT IS ONE

                    INTERPRETATION, AND THAT GOOD DRAFTING MIGHT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT --

                    THOSE CONCERNS.  BUT, WE ALSO KNOW IN PRACTICE THAT WE DO MAKE

                    REFERENCE AND, THEREFORE, IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE TEXT BECAUSE THE

                    REFERENCE DIRECTLY TAKES US TO THE NEXT PAGE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

                    REFERENCING.  SO, WE DO THAT IN PRACTICE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE --

                    WE'RE MEETING THE LETTER OF THE LAW BY WRITING IT IN THE TEXT, BY GIVING

                    DIRECT REFERENCE, BUT, GOOD DRAFTING AND REPEATING DEFINITIONS AND/OR

                    ANY OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION IS HELPFUL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MS. WRIGHT.

                                 ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, MR.

                    GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  AS I STARTED OUT AT

                    THE BEGINNING, WE OBVIOUSLY ALL OPPOSE DISCRIMINATION IN THE

                    WORKPLACE.  THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY, HOWEVER, THAT EVERY SINGLE

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                    EMPLOYER IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REGARDLESS OF HOW FEW EMPLOYEES

                    THEY HAVE, OR HOW INFREQUENTLY THEY WORK, OR WHETHER THEY'RE SEASONAL,

                    SHOULD BE OBLIGATED TO GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE MANDATED EMPLOYMENT

                    DISCRIMINATION COURSE PUT ON OR SPONSORED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF

                    LABOR.  THINK ABOUT THIS.  YOU HAVE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, I HAVE ONE,

                    FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WORKS ONE DAY A WEEK.  SO, I'M SUPPOSED TO TAKE AN

                    HOUR AND HAVE HER GO THROUGH A SEXUAL HARASSMENT SENSITIVITY TRAINING

                    COURSE SO THAT SHE DOESN'T HARASS HERSELF?  I DON'T THINK SHE DOES

                    ANYWAY.  IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

                                 BUT, WHEN WE IMPOSE THESE REQUIREMENTS ON

                    EMPLOYERS, IT COSTS MONEY AND IT CREATES PROBLEMS.  AND THEN WE SAY,

                    YOU CAN'T HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE CLAUSE.  AS AN ATTORNEY, I WILL TELL YOU

                    THERE ARE MANY EMPLOYERS THAT WILL PAY A CLAIMANT REAL MONEY TO AVOID

                    THE COST OF PAYING THEIR ATTORNEY REAL MONEY.

                                 IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THEN I'D BE HAPPY --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  YES, AS A MATTER OF

                    FACT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SINCE I'M OUT OF TIME, I WILL COME

                    BACK LATER.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ABSOLUTELY.

                                 MR. RA.

                                 MS. WRIGHT.  ON --

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  ON THE BILL.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MS. WRIGHT:  IT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT THAT WE

                    STAND TOGETHER AT THIS TIME AND PASS DISCRIM -- FULL ANTI-DISCRIMINATION

                    LEGISLATION.  WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT -- WE'RE TRYING TO

                    CHANGE ENVIRONMENTS, AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN IT.

                                 MOST RECENTLY, IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT, CHIEF -- THE JUSTICE

                    JAMES HO REFUSED TO EXPAND THE UNDERSTANDING OF DISCRIMINATION OR

                    ANTI-DISCRIMINATION RIGHTS TO LGBTQ CONSTITUENTS.  HE SPECIFICALLY

                    STATED IN HIS OPINION AND IN HIS OCCUR -- HIS CONCURRENCE, THAT NO ONE

                    SERIOUSLY CONTENDS THAT AT THE TIME OF ENACTMENT, THE PUBLIC MEANING

                    AND UNDERSTANDING OF TITLE VII INCLUDED SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR

                    TRANSGENDER DISCRIMINATION.  HE SAID, TO THE CONTRARY, THERE IS A JUDICIAL

                    CONSENSUS THAT THE PUBLIC MEANING OF TITLE VII DID NOT INCLUDE SEXUAL

                    ORIENTATION OR TRANSGENDER DISCRIMINATION.

                                 WE, IN THIS MOMENT, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE

                    SURE THAT OUR LEGISLATION SPEAKS CLEARLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY TO ALL OF THE

                    GROUPS THAT WE WANT TO SEE PROTECTED UNDER OUR DISCRIMINATION LAWS.

                    THIS LINES -- THIS LAW WILL ALIGN OUR EXECUTIVE LAW WITH WHAT EXISTS

                    UNDER OUR HUMAN RIGHTS LAW.  WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT

                    LEAVING ANYONE OUT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING AN

                    ENVIRONMENT -- A WORK ENVIRONMENT IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HONORS ALL

                    PEOPLE.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. GOODELL FOR ROUND TWO.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  AND AGAIN, THANK

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                    YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR HER COMMENTS THAT WERE VERY HELPFUL.

                                 SO, AS I MENTIONED, THIS COVERS EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYER,

                    REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING IF YOU HAVE A PART-TIME

                    SEASONAL WORKER.  IT BANS NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS.  AND, AS AN

                    ATTORNEY, I -- I'VE HAD THAT SITUATION WHERE CLIENTS WERE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR

                    THAT THEY WERE INNOCENT OF ANY WRONGDOING, BUT THEIR LAWYER WAS

                    EQUALLY CLEAR IT WAS GOING TO COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY TO LITIGATE.  AND

                    IN THAT SITUATION, A SETTLEMENT IS OFTEN THE -- TO THE BEST INTERESTS OF BOTH

                    PARTIES.  IT'S THE BEST INTEREST OF THE EMPLOYER, EVEN THOUGH THEY THINK

                    THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT, BECAUSE IT COSTS THEM LESS TO SETTLE THAN IT

                    DOES TO LITIGATE.  AND IT IS MOST CERTAINLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CLAIMANT

                    BECAUSE THEY GET A SETTLEMENT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE RISK OF

                    GETTING NOTHING.  BUT THOSE SETTLEMENTS ONLY WORK IF THERE'S A

                    NON-DISCLOSURE, BECAUSE A MAJOR PART OF MOST SETTLEMENTS IS, DON'T

                    DESTROY MY REPUTATION WHEN I'M INNOCENT.  WELL, THIS BILL PROHIBITS A

                    NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT UNLESS IT'S THE CLAIMANT'S PREFERENCE.  THE

                    PROBLEM IS, YOU DON'T GET AN OFFER FROM THE EMPLOYER UNLESS THE OFFER

                    ITSELF CAN BE ASSURED OF CONFIDENTIALITY.

                                 SO, WHILE WE WANT TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEE, THE NET

                    EFFECT OF THIS IS WE ELIMINATE THE ABILITY OF EMPLOYERS, MANY

                    EMPLOYERS, TO MAKE AN OFFER OF SETTLEMENT TO THE CLAIMANT, WHICH IS

                    EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, RIGHT?  WE WANT THE

                    CLAIMANT TO HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF THEM.  AND WE BAN

                    MANDATORY ARBITRATION CLAUSES.  YOU KNOW WHO FIGHTS THE HARDEST FOR

                    MANDATORY ARBITRATION CLAUSES IN MOST EMPLOYMENT CONTEXT?  IT'S THE

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                    EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE IT'S FASTER AND LESS EXPENSIVE.  AS AN ATTORNEY, I

                    CAN TIE UP A CASE FOR MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS, IN OUR COURT SYSTEM; THAT'S

                    WHY WE HAVE ARBITRATION.

                                 SO, WHILE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT

                    THAT WE SHOULD MINIMIZE DISCRIMINATION, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT

                    WE DO NOT WANT TO INADVERTENTLY IMPOSE A HUGE UNFUNDED MANDATE ON

                    EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYER - AND, BY THE WAY, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

                    OF EMPLOYERS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, INCLUDING THE SMALLEST

                    EMPLOYERS THAT EMPLOY ONLY ONE PERSON PART-TIME - WHILE INADVERTENTLY

                    PULLING THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH ALL THE CLAIMANTS WHO MIGHT

                    BENEFIT FROM A SETTLEMENT OFFER THAT INCLUDES A NON-DISCLOSURE

                    PROVISION.

                                 FOR THOSE REASONS, I AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL

                    NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER,

                    AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. TAYLOR TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

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                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF WE COULD

                    GO BACK TO THE MAIN CALENDAR ON PAGE 5, CALENDAR NO. 4, MS.

                    ROSENTHAL, ON DEBATE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00290, CALENDAR NO.

                    4, L. ROSENTHAL, DE LA ROSA, SEAWRIGHT, WALKER, DICKENS, VANEL.  AN

                    ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING FEMININE

                    HYGIENE PRODUCTS IN CHARTER SCHOOLS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MS. ROSENTHAL.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  OKAY.  THIS BILL WILL -- WILL

                    REQUIRE CHARTER SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE FREE MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS FOR

                    KIDS IN GRADES 6-12.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. BYRNES.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  THANK YOU.  WILL -- WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. ROSENTHAL, WILL

                    YOU YIELD?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS,

                    MS. BYRNES.

                                 MS BYRNES:  THANK YOU, KIND SIR.  THE QUESTION I

                    HAVE IS DO WE, AS A LEGISLATURE, HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE A PRIVATE

                    INSTITUTION TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR FREE IN THIS NATURE?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE NOT

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                    CONSIDERED PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS.  CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE CONSIDERED -- THEY

                    GET FUNDING, THEY'RE CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  EXCUSE ME, JUST ONE SECOND.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AND YOU HAVE THE

                    PERFECT RIGHT TO EXPECT SOME SILENCE.

                                 SO THAT MEANS, SHH.  LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  MY APOLOGIES, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  NO PROBLEM, YOU

                    DON'T NEED TO APOLOGIZE, WE DO.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  I -- I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.  WOULD YOU

                    BE SO KIND AS TO REPEAT IT?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  SURE.  CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE

                    CONSIDERED PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  THEY ARE FUNDED THROUGH PUBLIC DOLLARS.

                    IT'S JUST THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ADMINISTRATIVE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT

                    THEY DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE -- THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW, AND COMPLYING

                    WITH THE LAW THAT GOVERNS THE 2.6 MILLION STUDENTS IN NEW YORK STATE

                    PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  SO, THIS JUST MAKES IT PARITY.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  WELL, THEN, DO THE

                    ADMINISTRATIVE RULES ALLOW AND REQUIRE THIS INSTITUTION, THE CHARTER

                    SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE THESE FREE PRODUCTS?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  SAY THAT AGAIN?  I COULDN'T HEAR

                    YOU.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  DO -- APPARENTLY, I'M TALLER THAN THE

                    MICROPHONE IS.

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                                 (LAUGHTER)

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  THIS SYSTEM, LIKE, SEEMS TO BE

                    LESS --

                                 MS. BYRNES:  SO, THE -- THEN, IF THEY'RE GOVERNED BY

                    THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES REQUIRE THAT THESE

                    PRODUCTS BE PROVIDED FOR FREE?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE PASSED

                    IN -- WE PASSED A LAW THAT SAID THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN NEW YORK STATE

                    HAVE TO PROVIDE FREE PRODUCTS.  IT WAS DISCUSSED DURING ENACTMENT OF

                    THAT WHETHER THAT COVERED CHARTER SCHOOLS, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT

                    DID NOT, WHICH IS WHY I'M DOING THIS BILL, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCESS

                    ACROSS THE STATE FOR KIDS IN SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  SO, CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE

                    DIFFERENT THAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS --

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  BUT AS I SAID --

                                 MS. BYRNES:  -- WHICH IS WHY THIS NEEDED TO BE

                    DONE.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YES.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  OKAY.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  AS I SAID, THEY ARE PUBLIC

                    SCHOOLS, THERE ARE JUST CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW.

                    APPARENTLY, THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  WELL, THEN, GOING BACK TO

                    MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES OR ANY RULES REQUIRE

                    THAT THIS TYPE OF A CHARTER SCHOOL INSTITUTION PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF

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                    PRODUCT FOR FREE?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WELL, NO, WHICH IS WHY I'M

                    DOING THIS BILL.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  SO THERE IS NO RULE

                    REQUIRING IT, AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED A STATUTE.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  EXACTLY.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  TO -- TO FORCE THEM TO REQUIRE THEM

                    TO.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WELL, "FORCE THEM" IS AN

                    INTERESTING CHOICE OF WORDS, BECAUSE THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT HALF THE

                    POPULATION NEEDS AT A -- ANY TIME OF THE MONTH, AND WE'RE JUST MAKING

                    IT AVAILABLE TO ALL KIDS WHO NEED TO DEAL WITH MENSTRUAL HYGIENE.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  COULD THE SCHOOL SEEK

                    REIMBURSEMENT FROM PARENTS OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  NOT ONCE IT'S THE LAW.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  OKAY.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  AND, IN ADDITION, WE'VE SPOKEN

                    TO SOME CHARTER SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, HERE AND THERE, AND SOME ALREADY

                    DO THIS.  SO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GREAT RESISTANCE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE

                    INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  OKAY.  AS I HAD MENTIONED DURING

                    THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS TOLD TO ME BY SOME

                    OF THE SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WAS THAT THEY'RE HAVING LOT OF

                    THEFT-RELATED ISSUES, AND IT'S BECOME QUITE AN EXPENSE, ALBEIT OUT OF

                    THEIR ALLOCATED FUNDS AND, AS A RESULT, IS THIS THE TYPE OF UNNECESSARY

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                    EXPENSE, IF THERE'S A LOT OF THEFT --

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WELL --

                                 MS. BYRNES:  -- THAT'S GOING ON THAT WE WANT TO

                    PUSH DOWN ONTO ANOTHER INSTITUTION?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WELL, I'VE HEARD THE THEFT

                    ARGUMENT, AND PEOPLE WHO TAKE EXTRA PRODUCTS NEED THOSE EXTRA

                    PRODUCTS.  IT'S NOT LIKE TAKING EXTRA BAGS OF CANDY BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO

                    EAT THEM AND THEY'RE FUN.  PEOPLE WHO TAKE MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS

                    TAKE THEM BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM, AND -- NUMBER ONE.  NUMBER TWO, I

                    DO NOT HEAR ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT TOILET PAPER, WHICH EVERYONE EXPECTS

                    TO BE STOCKED IN EVERY BATHROOM, THEY -- THEY GO TO.  IT'S THE SAME HERE

                    FOR THESE PRODUCTS, WHICH ARE NECESSARY.  AND WE CAN'T LET DOWN YOUNG

                    MENSTRUATORS BECAUSE THEY GO TO A CHARTER SCHOOL.  THEY NEED TO EXPECT

                    THE SAME THING AS THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOL COUNTERPARTS WHEN IT COMES TO

                    BIOLOGY AND DISRUPTING EDUCATION IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE NURSE, GO

                    ELSEWHERE TO OBTAIN WHAT THEY NEED.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  SO, MS. SPONSOR, YOU DON'T

                    HAVE ANY PROBLEM, THEN, IF THE PRODUCTS ARE STOLEN AND ARE ACTUALLY

                    USED ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO THERE BEING AN EMERGENCY

                    SITUATION AT THE SCHOOL AND IT'S NEEDED, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM

                    WITH THE PRODUCTS BEING STOLEN AND USED OUTSIDE SCHOOL?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  AS I SAID BEFORE, ANYBODY WHO

                    STEALS MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS, IT'S BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM.  THEY

                    MIGHT BE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR SOME STUDENTS AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT

                    EVERY -- EVERY YOUNG ADULT HAS ACCESS TO THESE PRODUCTS IF THEY NEED

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                    THEM.  PEOPLE ARE NOT STEALING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE PLAYING GAMES

                    WITH THEM.  THEY'RE -- AND I DON'T THINK IT'S STEALING, THEY'RE OFFERED FOR

                    USE.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  SO, OUR -- OUR SCHOOLS WOULD BE

                    OBLIGATED TO SUPPLY SOMETHING TO THE ENTIRE POPULATION ON A CONTINUOUS

                    BASIS, IRRESPECTIVE OF COST?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  UM, NO --

                                 MS. BYRNES:  YES OR NO?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  MAY -- MAY I REMIND YOU, WE'RE

                    TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR HALF THE POPULATION AT ANY

                    TIME DURING THE MONTH THAT WE HAVE GIVEN TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS.  I

                    DARE SAY MOST OF THE -- ALL OF THE FEMALE ASSEMBLYMEMBERS IN THIS

                    ROOM HAVE EXPERIENCED MENSTRUATION AND KNOWING THAT YOU NEED

                    PRODUCTS OR THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME BAD RESULTS.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  BUT THE ISSUE IS, DO WE NEED TO

                    SUPPLY THEM TO EVERY FEMALE STUDENT ON A CONSTANT BASIS, ALL THE TIME,

                    AT STATE EXPENSE?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WE --

                                 MS. BYRNES:  THEY NEVER HAVE TO GO TO A GROCERY

                    STORE, THEY JUST ALWAYS GET WHAT THEY WANT FOR FREE FROM OUR SCHOOLS AT

                    TAXPAYER EXPENSE?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  WE --

                                 MS. BYRNES:  OR SCHOOL EXPENSE?

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  AT SCHOOL EXPENSE, BECAUSE IT'S

                    A BIOLOGICAL NECESSITY.  I ALSO THINK THAT YOU'RE OVERSTATING THE THEFT

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                    ARGUMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE TAKE PRODUCTS IF THEY NEED TO USE THEM, BUT

                    THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO TAKE PRODUCTS IS TO USE THEM IN SCHOOL

                    WHILE THEY'RE ON SCHOOL GROUNDS.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  I CAN JUST TELL YOU, MA'AM,

                    THAT MORE THAN ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TOLD ME THAT EVERY TIME THEY PUT

                    PRODUCTS OUT, THEY ARE GONE --

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO USE

                    THEM.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  -- AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP REPLENISHING

                    THEM AND THAT IT'S A --

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T

                    THINK THERE'S A SECONDARY MARKET FOR THEM.  I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FIND

                    THEM, YOU KNOW, EBAY, WHATEVER.  I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM.

                    THEY NEED TO USE THEM.  IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FAIRNESS OF MENSTRUAL

                    EQUITY OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF KIDS IN SCHOOLS.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  IN OTHER WORDS, THOUGH, THE SCHOOLS

                    WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, NOT INDIVIDUALS, FOR THEIR OWN HYGIENE PRODUCTS.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO GET

                    INTO POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY HERE.  IT'S A VERY SIMPLE BILL.  KIDS WHO ARE IN

                    SCHOOL GRADES 6-12, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEY'RE ALREADY AVAILABLE AT A

                    NO-COST BASIS, WE'RE JUST MAKING IT EQUAL IN CHARTER SCHOOLS.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'LL BE

                    HEARD LATER, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THERE ARE NO OTHER

                    SPEAKERS ON THE ISSUE.

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                                 MS. BYRNES:  OKAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  IF YOU WANT TO

                    PROCEED, YOU MAY.

                                 MS. BYRNES:  ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU.  GEE, I DON'T

                    KNOW WHY THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS BILL...

                                 BUT, IN ANY EVENT, YOU KNOW, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IT HAS

                    BEEN RAISED TO ME BY A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT THIS

                    HAS BECOME A BURDEN ON THEM, AND THAT IT IS AN EXPENSE THAT THEY DON'T

                    FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD BE BEARING.  NOW, I SEE NO REASON IF IT'S ALREADY

                    BECOME AN ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD PERPETUATE IT BY GOING FARTHER AND

                    LEGALLY REQUIRING CHARTER SCHOOLS TO DO IT, AS WELL.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR

                    TIME.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1ST,

                    2019.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. CRUZ TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. CRUZ:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I HAD THE

                    PRIVILEGE OF WORKING FOR COUNCIL MEMBER JULISSA FERRERAS-COPELAND IN

                    THE CITY OF NEW YORK WHEN WE MADE THIS A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY

                    PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE CITY.  AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ARGUMENTS THAT

                    WE WOULD HEAR FROM SCHOOLS WERE ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN, GENERALLY

                    WOMEN OF COLOR, GENERALLY POOR STUDENTS, WHO WOULD END UP MISSING

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                    CLASS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MENSTRUAL EQUITY.  LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

                    THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS IN CHARTER SCHOOLS,

                    MANY OF THEM WHO HAPPEN TO ALSO BE POOR STUDENTS, YOUNG WOMEN OF

                    COLOR, CAN HAVE THE SAME ACCESS THAT THE REST OF THE STUDENTS ALREADY

                    HAVE.  I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. CRUZ IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, WILL YOU

                    CALL ON MR. OTIS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. OTIS FOR THE

                    PURPOSE OF A [SIC] ANNOUNCEMENT.

                                 MR. OTIS:  THERE WILL BE AN IMMEDIATE MEETING OF

                    THE DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE UPON THE

                    CONCLUSION OF SESSION.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  DEMOCRATIC

                    CONFERENCE UPON CONCLUSION OF SESSION.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ALWAYS FINE

                    RESOLUTIONS, WE'LL TAKE THEM UP IN ONE VOTE.  ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL

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                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTIONS ARE

                    ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 121-128

                    WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE

                    THAT THE ASSEMBLY ADJOURNED UNTIL 10:30 A.M., THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE

                    28TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 3:23 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD

                    ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH AT 10:30 A.M., THURSDAY

                    BEING A SESSION DAY.)

























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