TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2019 1:22 P.M.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME
TO ORDER.
IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF
SILENCE.
(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)
VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE.
(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND
MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)
A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE
JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 26TH.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO
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DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL FOR TUESDAY, FEBRUARY
THE 26TH, AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO
ORDERED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, FOR -- AT
LEAST SINCE THE BEGINNING OF SESSION, WE'VE BEEN STARTING OUT WITH AN
OPPORTUNITY TO QUOTE SOME GREAT AMERICAN OR SOME GREAT PERSON IN OUR
WORLD. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT SPEAKER HEASTIE AND I ARE
PUTTING OUT A PRESS RELEASE AND IT'S GOING TO GO ONLINE, IT'S GOING TO GO
LIVE, AND IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED, "ASPIRE TO INSPIRE." AND THE IDEA IS TO
HAVE NEW YORKERS, TO -- YOUNG PEOPLE OR OLD PEOPLE, STUDENTS OR
COLLEGE STUDENTS TO JOIN US IN SENDING IN QUOTES THAT WILL BE
INSPIRATIONAL, THAT WILL PROMOTE CIVILITY AND THAT WILL ENCOURAGE US IN
OUR WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THIS IS GOING TO GO
OUT TODAY, MR. SPEAKER. AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT
GOES ON IN OUR COUNTRY CALLED KIDS FIRE, WHERE KIDS SAY REALLY NICE
THINGS THAT ARE VERY MEANINGFUL. THEIR PARENTS COULD SEND THOSE IN TO
US, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE
BETTER SO THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THINGS LIVE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.
BUT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL NEW YORKERS TO ENGAGE US IN THIS
CAMPAIGN WHICH WE'RE CALLING "ASPIRE TO INSPIRE."
AND WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WANT TO PROVIDE TODAY'S
QUOTE WHICH IS FROM A GREAT LEADER WHO WAS ASSASSINATED BACK IN THE
'60S WHEN MANY OF US, AGAIN, WERE NOT EVEN BORN, OR EVEN THOUGHT
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ABOUT, SOME OF US WERE AND -- IN OUR FORMIDABLE AGES, BUT THIS QUOTE IS
FROM MALCOLM X, WHO WAS FROM THE GREAT CITY OR AREA OF HARLEM, IN
OUR COLLEAGUE'S INEZ DICKENS' DISTRICT. AND HIS QUOTE THAT I THINK IS --
IS VERY FORMIDABLE FOR TODAY AND ANY TIME, IS THAT, "OF ALL OUR STUDIES,
HISTORY IS BEST QUALIFIED TO REWARD OUR RESEARCH. AND WHEN YOU SEE
THAT YOU HAVE GOT PROBLEMS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS EXAMINE THE HISTORIC
METHOD USED ALL OVER THE WORLD BY OTHERS WHO HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM
SIMILAR TO YOURS. AND ONCE YOU SEE HOW THEY GOT THEIRS STRAIGHT, THEN
YOU WILL KNOW HOW YOU CAN GET YOURS STRAIGHT." SO, IN OTHER WORDS,
OUR BROTHER MALCOLM WAS SUGGESTING TO US THAT HISTORY BEST REWARDS
OUR RESEARCH, AND WE SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME LOOKING AT HISTORY SO THAT
WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING INTO THE FUTURE.
WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT
MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR DESK A MAIN CALENDAR AND AFTER ANY
INTRODUCTIONS OR HOUSEKEEPING WE WILL CONTINUE OUR -- TO CONSENT NEW
BILLS ON THAT CALENDAR, ON CALENDAR NO. 58, WHICH IS ON PAGE 9. AND
WE ALSO WILL HAVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS OFF THE
FLOOR -- I BELIEVE CODES IS STILL MEETING RIGHT NOW AND FOLLOWING THAT,
WE WILL DO WAYS AND MEANS AND RULES. THESE COMMITTEES WILL
PRODUCE AN A-CALENDAR, WHICH WE WILL TAKE UP, FOUR BILLS. AND FOR OUR
MAJORITY MEMBERS, THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED FOR A DEMOCRATIC
CONFERENCE AT THE SESSION OF TODAY AND, CERTAINLY, WE WILL CONSULT WITH
OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A -- A
SIMILAR REQUEST.
AND SO, MR. SPEAKER, WITH THAT AS A GENERAL OUTLINE, IF
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THERE ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE THE
APPROPRIATE TIME.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. BUT ONE
CORRECTION, MY COLLEAGUE, MALCOLM LIVED ON 97TH STREET, EAST
ELMHURST, MY BLOCK, IN EAST ELMHURST, QUEENS. JUST SO THAT -- YOU
KNOW, WE -- WE SHARE HIM WITH THE WORLD, BUT --
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THAT -- THAT'S A GREAT --
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: -- WE WANT TO BE
HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THAT'S A GREAT CORRECTION.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE HE LIVED WHEN HE WAS ASSASSINATED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: OKAY.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: BUT HE GREW UP IN
HARLEM --
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THAT'S RIGHT.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: -- WAS RAISED IN HARLEM.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: PURPOSES OF A [SIC]
INTRODUCTION, MR. CUSICK.
MR. CUSICK: THANK -- THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
TODAY I RISE FOR A PURPOSE OF AN INTRODUCTION. I -- TODAY I'M
INTRODUCING SOMEONE WHO IS NO STRANGER TO THIS CHAMBER. HE SERVED
HERE FROM 2007 TO 2012, AND IT SEEMS LIKE HE NEVER LEFT HERE. HIS SPIRIT
-- HIS SPIRIT LIVES ON IN THIS CHAMBER. ANY FUNNY STORY ALWAYS INCLUDES
THE NAME LOU TOBACCO. SO, MR. SPEAKER, ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES
FROM STATEN ISLAND, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE LOU TOBACCO, WHO'S NO
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LONGER THE ASSEMBLYMAN, BUT HE SERVED STATEN ISLAND SO WELL AS THE
ASSEMBLYMAN, HE CONTINUES HIS WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND FOR
THAT, MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU COULD OFFER HIM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE
AND WELCOME HIM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES FROM STATEN
ISLAND.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. CUSICK AND THE STATEN ISLAND DELEGATION AND ALL OF THE MEMBERS
AND THE SPEAKER, LOU, WELCOME BACK. YOU ARE A FORMER MEMBER, YOU
NEED NO REAL INTRODUCTION HERE, AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE PRIVILEGES OF
THE FLOOR. GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE, AND WE'RE ALWAYS PLEASED THAT YOU
COME BACK AND JOIN US. THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. MALLIOTAKIS.
MS. MALLIOTAKIS: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'M
VERY HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER IN MY DISTRICT AND ONE OF
THE LARGEST NON-PROFITS ON STATEN ISLAND, AS WELL, AND THAT IS STATEN
ISLAND UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL AND NORTHWELL HEALTH. TODAY WE ARE VERY
EXCITED TO HAVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BRAHIM ARDOLIC; FRANK BESIGNANO,
WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES; PHIL MANCUSO, WHO IS
THE CHAIRMAN OF FOUNDATION BOARD; JOHN DEMOLEAS, WHO IS THE
ASSOCIATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS; AND LAURA LONGO,
WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF ONCOLOGY; AND, OF COURSE, AS WAS MENTIONED,
LOU TOBACCO, THE ASSOCIATE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE THE LARGEST EMPLOYER
AND NON-PROFIT ON STATEN ISLAND AND SO, WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO ALSO
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ANNOUNCE THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY -- AND I -- I HATE TO MAKE MY
COLLEAGUES JEALOUS HERE, ONLY ONE HOSPITAL IN ALL OF NEW YORK CITY THAT
EARNED THE HIGHEST RANKING OF THREE STARS FOR CARDIAC BYPASS SURGERY --
HEART SURGERY. AND I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE THEM IN MY DISTRICT. SO,
WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME THEM ON BEHALF OF THE STATEN ISLAND
DELEGATION. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. MALLIOTAKIS, THE STATEN ISLAND DELEGATION, WE WELCOME THESE
HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY,
EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND OUR THANKS AND GRATITUDE
FOR THE SERVICE YOU ARE PROVIDING STATEN ISLAND AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR
HEALTH NEEDS. THANK YOU. AND CONTINUE TO PROSPER AND GROW. THANK
YOU.
(APPLAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I
UNDERSTAND CODES HAS COMPLETED ITS WORK. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL
WAYS AND MEANS TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: COMMITTEE ON WAYS
AND MEANS, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU.
MR. RA FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MR. RA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ON BEHALF OF
MYSELF, ASSEMBLYMAN TONY D'URSO AND ASSEMBLYWOMAN MISSY
MILLER, I'M VERY PROUD TO RECOGNIZE AND WELCOME TO THE FLOOR STUDENTS
AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL IN ALBERTSON,
NEW YORK DOWN ON LONG ISLAND. WE HAVE TWO STUDENTS WITH US
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TODAY, BORUCK NOJOWITZ AND JAZMINE DURAN, THEY'RE BOTH SENIORS AT THE
HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL. THEY ARE JOINED WITH A NUMBER OF
ADMINISTRATORS AND TEACHERS, INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE
VISCARDI CENTER AND THE HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL, JOHN KEMP. THE
HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL IS A 4201 SCHOOL THAT SERVICES STUDENTS WITH --
WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES. AND I'VE BEEN THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES, THEY
DO ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS WORK. THEIR STUDENTS HAVE ACHIEVED GREAT,
GREAT THINGS ACADEMICALLY, AND WE'RE -- WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THESE TWO
SENIORS VISITING US TODAY, AS WELL AS OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
SCHOOL. IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THEM WITH A WELCOME AND THE CORDIALITIES
OF THE HOUSE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. RA, MR. D'URSO, MS. MELISSA MILLER, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE
MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, THE
PEOPLE'S HOUSE. WE COMMEND YOU ON THE EDUCATIONAL WORK THAT
YOU'RE DOING. WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE THAT WORK AND ALWAYS
KNOW THAT YOU ARE WELCOME HERE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. PALUMBO.
MR. PALUMBO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR
ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN
INTRODUCTION. I'M DELIGHTED TO BE JOINED IN THE CHAMBER TODAY BY
KATHLEEN ZEFF (PHONETIC), WHO HAS NOT BEEN TO THE ALBANY AREA IN
ABOUT 30 YEARS, WHEN SHE WAS HERE VISITING A FRIEND IN COLLEGE, WAS HER
LAST TIME, AND SHE NEVER MADE IT TO THE CHAMBER. BUT FORTUNATELY SHE'S
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HERE TODAY TO WATCH DEMOCRACY AT WORK. AND SHE'S ALSO HERE HELPING
OUT AND ADVOCATING FOR THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO HER. THREE
YEARS AGO SHE SADLY LOST HER HUSBAND IN A -- IN A CONSTRUCTION ACCIDENT.
BUT SHE'S CERTAINLY HERE TODAY TO JOIN US. AND WOULD YOU PLEASE BE SO
KIND AS TO EXTEND THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE AND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE
FLOOR TO MS. ZEFF.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. PALUMBO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU
BACK TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY; LONG TIME BETWEEN TRIPS, BUT
THAT'S ALL RIGHT. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, HOPE THAT
YOUR DAY HERE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT
YOU'RE DOING TO HELP OTHERS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. MELISSA MILLER.
MS. MILLER: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WOULD
LIKE TO INTRODUCE HERE TODAY PEOPLE FROM THE CP OF NASSAU COUNTY.
THEY ARE NOT IN MY DISTRICT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN TAYLOR RAYNOR'S DISTRICT,
BUT I HAVE A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH CP NASSAU, SO I WANTED TO HAVE
THEM COME BE INTRODUCED ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE PATTY VASSILIADOU,
MAURA WACHSBERGER, BOB MCGUIRE AND BOB MASTERSON WITH US TODAY.
THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS JUST EXTRAORDINARY. FROM BIRTH TO -- NO AGE
LIMIT, THEY JUST -- THEY PROVIDE SO MANY SERVICES IN SCHOOL, IN THE
COMMUNITIES WITH THEIR CLINICS, WITH THEIR SCHOOLS, THERE -- IT JUST --
THERE'S NO LIMIT. AND THEY HAVE DONE PHENOMENAL THINGS, AND CONTINUE
TO. THEY'RE JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE
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WELCOME THEM TO THE HOUSE AND OFFER ALL THE CORDIALITIES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. MILLER, MS. RAYNOR, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE
WELCOME YOU DISTINGUISHED VISITORS TO THE FLOOR. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, HOPE THAT YOU WILL ENJOY YOUR DAY IN ALBANY
AND COMMEND YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND CONTINUE THAT GREAT WORK.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. BENEDETTO.
MR. BENEDETTO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR
ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT,
SOME VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TODAY, AND I WAS FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO HAVE SO MANY OF THESE FINE PEOPLE AT MY EDUCATION MEETING
THIS MORNING. PICKING UP WHERE MR. RA LEFT OFF ABOUT THE FINE FOLKS
FROM THE HENRY VISCARDI SCHOOL, WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS WHICH ARE
CLASSIFIED 4201 THAT HAVE COME FROM ALL AROUND THE STATE, BE IT BUFFALO
OR ROCHESTER OR THE BRONX BRINGING THEIR STUDENTS UP HERE TODAY.
THEY ARE SCHOOLS, THE 4201 SCHOOLS, THAT TEACH SOME
OF THE CHILDREN THAT NEED HELP THE MOST; THOSE WHO ARE BLIND, THOSE
WHO ARE DEAF. AND OUT OF THIS POPULATION, THEY ARE PRODUCING SCHOLARS
WITH AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TALENT. WE WELCOME THE ADMINISTRATORS,
THE TEACHERS AND MOST OF ALL, THE STUDENTS THAT HAVE SPENT THE DAY HERE
UP IN ALBANY. WE HOPE IT WAS -- BEEN BENEFICIAL TO YOU; IT CERTAINLY
WAS INFORMATIVE TO ALL OF US. AND I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU WELCOME
ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 4201 SCHOOLS WHO ARE HERE TODAY. THANK
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YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. BENEDETTO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME ALL OF
YOU WHO REPRESENT 40021 [SIC] SCHOOLS -- 4201 SCHOOLS HERE TO THE
NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, TO THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE. WE EXTEND TO YOU
THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, HOPE THAT YOUR TIME HERE HAS BEEN
BENEFICIAL, HOPE THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME ANY TIME YOU
COME. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.
(APPLAUSE)
MRS. GALEF.
MRS. GALEF: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE
MAJORITY LEADER INDICATED THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE, GREAT
PEOPLE THAT INSPIRE US. AND I HAVE AS A GUEST TODAY SOMEBODY WHO IS
SUCH AN INSPIRATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. REVEREND JEANETTE PHILLIPS IS
HERE IN RECOGNITION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. AND REVEREND PHILLIPS
WAS ONE WHO STARTED -- WHO HAD A VISION ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO IN THE '70S
THAT WE NEEDED HEALTH CARE CLINICS, WE NEEDED HEALTH SERVICES IN
NORTHERN WESTCHESTER, AND FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO TRAVEL VERY, VERY
LONG DISTANCES TO GET HEALTH CARE WAS NOT RIGHT. AND SO, SHE WORKED
WITH OTHER FRIENDS AND LED THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE PEEKSKILL
COMMUNITY THAT AN AMBULATORY HEALTH CARE CENTER OPENED IN 1975.
AND NOW THAT CENTER HAS GONE ON, AND SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE VICE
PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BUT THAT CENTER HAS GONE ON TO
HAVE 43 HEALTH CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE HUDSON VALLEY, NEW YORK CITY
AND LONG ISLAND. AND THAT, I WOULD SAY, IS SO INSPIRATIONAL.
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SHE ALSO SERVES AS A REVEREND AT THE -- SHE'S AN
ASSOCIATE MINISTER OF THE PARKS STREET AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL
ZION CHURCH. AND IF I -- IF I CONNECTED WITH THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT
HAVE A MINISTER HERE TODAY, AND JEANETTE'S SITTING THERE, WE COULD'VE
DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. SO, I'M VERY, VERY SORRY. SHE IS A GREAT ASSET
TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND THE
HEALTH CARE COMMUNITY. AND IT IS OUR PRIVILEGE TO HAVE HER HERE TODAY.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL BE VOTING ON A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF
REVEREND PHILLIPS AND DURING THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH. SO, I WOULD
ASK FOR YOU TO GIVE ALL YOUR CORDIALITIES TO REVEREND PHILLIPS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MRS. GALEF, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, REVEREND PHILLIPS,
WELCOME HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. WE HOPE THAT THIS IS A SMALL TOKEN TO REWARD
YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR LIFE. CONGRATULATIONS. AND
EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T COME AND OFFER US PRAYER, WE HOPE YOU WILL
KEEP US IN YOUR PRAYERS, BECAUSE WE NEED THAT ALL THE TIME. THANK YOU
SO VERY MUCH, AND CONGRATULATIONS.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. FAHY.
MS. FAHY: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
RISE FOR AN INTRODUCTION. TODAY IS LIBRARY ADVOCACY DAY AND IT GIVES
ME GREAT PLEASURE TO -- TO WELCOME, ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND
ASSEMBLYMAN JOHN MCDONALD, IT GIVES ME GREAT PRIVILEGE TO WELCOME
THE ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL BOOK CLUB. THEY RETURN TODAY TO THE CAPITOL
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TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR LIBRARIES, AND JOINING MANY, MANY ADVOCATES
TODAY. THIS IS A VERY POPULAR AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAM WHICH FEATURES
AUTHORS' VISITS, FIELD TRIPS, LIBRARY EVENTS, AND IT STRESSES THE VALUES OF
LIBRARIES IN OUR SCHOOLS AND IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THESE STUDENTS
ANNUALLY CONDUCT FUNDRAISERS, HOLD -- HOST AUTHORS, THEY DO A LIBRARY
LOCK-IN, AND -- AND EVEN CELEBRATE A FREE COMIC BOOK DAY.
I'M GOING TO NAME THE -- THE STUDENTS BRIEFLY: IT'S
BREONA THOMAS, DANVASS GEKONGE, GEORGE POUNDS, ISAIAH BUDDEAU,
JADAN MOORE, JIHANA JITU, KARLA GERONIMO RODRIGUEZ, LULHEILY COLON,
MEHREEN KHAN, NUMAIR KHAN, SAIARA ALAM, SHAMYLA BHATTI, VAUGHN
ALBERT, CARRIE BIRCH (PHONETIC), AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW OF THEIR
INSTRUCTORS AND ADULTS WITH US, AND IT'S SUSAN D'ENTREMONT; JEN KANEL
(PHONETIC); KRISTEN MAJKUT, THE ALBANY HIGH LIBRARIAN, AND EMILY
VISCUSO, THE -- THE U-ALBANY SCHOOL LIBRARIAN, AND DANIEL MOORE.
I AM MY -- THIS IS THE SCHOOL THAT BOTH OF MY CHILDREN
GRADUATED FROM, SO IT MAKES ME A LITTLE HOMESICK TO SEE THAT MY OWN
TWO AREN'T WITH THEM, THEY'RE BOTH RECENT GRADUATES. AND IF YOU WOULD,
MR. -- MS. SPEAKER, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GRANT THEM THE CORDIALITIES --
WELCOME THEM AND GRANT THEM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE. THANK
YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: CERTAINLY. ON
BEHALF OF MS. FAHY, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME
THESE DISTINGUISHED GUESTS TO THE CHAMBER, EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE
FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
(APPLAUSE)
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MADAM
SPEAKER. I RISE TO -- ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND ALL THE WOMEN OF THE
LEGISLATURE, PARTICULARLY ASSEMBLYWOMAN NILY ROZIC, TO INTRODUCE
MEMBERS OF -- WOMEN WHO ARE HERE IN OUR CHAMBERS TODAY WHO ARE
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP - ARE THEY
STILL HERE? THERE THEY ARE.
MADAM SPEAKER, THESE WOMEN WORK HARD AND TRAIN IN
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO WORK ON THEIR LEADERSHIP SKILLS. MOST OF
THESE ARE STUDENTS THAT ARE WITH THEM, HOWEVER, MICHELLE GONCALVES IS
THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS DEPUTY CHANCELLOR, IS WITH THEM HERE
TODAY. SO, MADAM LEADER, AS YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED WOMEN PREPARED
FOR LEADERSHIP. SO, IF YOU COULD EXTEND TO THESE WONDERFUL WOMEN THE
CORDIALITIES OF OUR FLOOR AND WELCOME THEM HERE, I WOULD BE GREATLY
APPRECIATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: THANK YOU, MRS.
PEOPLES-STOKES. ON BEHALF OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES AND MS. ROZIC, THE
SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE DISTINGUISHED
STUDENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS TO THE CHAMBER. I HAD
THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING AND SPEAKING WITH THEM EARLIER, THEY'RE
DELIGHTFUL AND VERY COMMITTED. WE EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR
AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
(APPLAUSE)
RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3, CLERK WILL READ.
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THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 119, MR.
JONES. LEGISLATION RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR M. CUOMO TO
PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2019 AS PARENT RECOGNITION MONTH IN THE STATE OF
NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: ON THE
RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE
RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 120, MS.
JOYNER. LEGISLATION RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW M.
CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MARCH 2ND, 2019 AS READ ACROSS AMERICA DAY IN
THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: ON THE
RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE
RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.
PAGE 9, CALENDAR NO. 58, THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A01945, CALENDAR NO.
58, ZEBROWSKI, GALEF, CAHILL, COLTON, ABBATE, GUNTHER, M. G. MILLER,
SEAWRIGHT, BICHOTTE, BRONSON, OTIS, WEPRIN, WALLACE, CRUZ. AN ACT TO
AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A
TIME PERIOD IN WHICH AN ACTION TO RECOVER DAMAGES FOR INJURY ARISING
FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MUST BE BROUGHT.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: THE BILL IS LAID
ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02331, CALENDAR NO.
59, DINOWITZ, DENDEKKER, M. G. MILLER, BRONSON, MOSLEY,
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CYMBROWITZ, BENEDETTO, SIMOTAS, CUSICK, GUNTHER, GOTTFRIED,
PICHARDO, BARRON, COOK, GALEF, COLTON, ARROYO, CRESPO, HUNTER, PERRY.
AN ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW AND THE EXECUTIVE LAW,
IN RELATION TO ENABLING VETERANS AND RESERVISTS TO RECEIVE BENEFIT
INFORMATION UPON APPLYING FOR OR RENEWING A DRIVER'S LICENSE.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: READ THE LAST
SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 180TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTES.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MADAM SPEAKER, I
REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS THAT ARE IN WAYS AND MEANS, BUT
FOR THE MEMBERS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBERS OR ANYWHERE NEAR AND
AROUND, IF YOU COULD PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE, THIS IS OUR FIRST VOTE OF THE
DAY. THERE ARE A FEW OTHERS THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH, BUT WITH --
THE FASTER WE GET THROUGH, THE SOONER WE'LL BE DONE. MADAM SPEAKER,
IF YOU COULD HAVE MEMBERS PLEASE COME IN AND VOTE.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: FIRST VOTE OF THE
DAY. MEMBERS, PLEASE VOTE.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MADAM SPEAKER, WAYS
AND MEANS HAS COMPLETED ITS WORK. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE RULES
COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM, IMMEDIATELY.
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ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: RULES
COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MADAM
SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE, MICHAEL
MILLER, INTRODUCE SOME GUESTS HE HAS IN THE CHAMBERS. THEY'RE FROM
THE NEW AMERICAN VOTERS NEPALI SOCIETY: MOHAN GYAWALI CHHETRI,
DR. DILIP NATH, ROKAYA AKHTER AND GYANAL THAPA. IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE WELCOME THESE GUESTS ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE, MR. MILLER,
MADAM SPEAKER, WE WOULD DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: ON BEHALF OF MR.
MICHAEL MILLER AND MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE
MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE DISTINGUISHED GUESTS TO THE CHAMBER,
EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
(APPLAUSE)
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02374, CALENDAR NO.
60, DINOWITZ, BUCHWALD, GOTTFRIED, SIMON, SEAWRIGHT, SIMOTAS,
BARRON, THIELE, FAHY, WRIGHT, GUNTHER, SOLAGES, ORTIZ, BRAUNSTEIN,
WILLIAMS, OTIS, L. ROSENTHAL, SANTABARBARA, GALEF. AN ACT TO AMEND
THE GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING A CONSUMER CREDIT
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REPORTING AGENCY TO OFFER IDENTITY THEFT PREVENTION AND MITIGATION
SERVICES IN THE CASE OF A BREACH OF THE SECURITY OF SUCH AGENCY'S
SYSTEM.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: READ THE LAST
SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IN 60 DAYS.
ACTING SPEAKER MCMAHON: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ARE THERE ANY OTHER
VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A02501, CALENDAR NO.
61, ENGLEBRIGHT, THIELE, COLTON, GALEF, L. ROSENTHAL, FAHY, ABINANTI,
OTIS, PICHARDO, GOTTFRIED, GLICK, D'URSO, FERNANDEZ, WEPRIN. AN ACT
TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE
REDUCTION OF MERCURY IN MERCURY-ADDED LAMPS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
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THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
WOULD ADVANCE THE A-CALENDAR, WHICH WE ALL NOW HAVE ON OUR DESKS,
AND WE WILL START ON PAGE 3 WITH RULES REPORT NO. 30, MR. DILAN.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON MRS.
PEOPLES-STOKES' MOTION, THE A-CALENDAR IS ADVANCED.
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A03425, RULES REPORT
NO. 30, DILAN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO
EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES TO INCLUDE
PUBLIC EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04204, RULES REPORT
NO. 31, WEPRIN, CAHILL, PAULIN, RAMOS, M. G. MILLER, QUART, AUBRY,
SEAWRIGHT, BARRON, VANEL, HEVESI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE
LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION AGAINST RELIGIOUS ATTIRE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS
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REQUESTED, MR. WEPRIN.
MR. WEPRIN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. A4977
ADDS LANGUAGE TO PARAGRAPH (A) OF SUBDIVISION 10 OF SECTION 296 OF THE
EXECUTIVE LAW, ALSO KNOWN AS THE NEW YORK STATE HUMAN RIGHTS
LAW, TO CLARIFY THAT IT IS AN UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICE FOR AN
EMPLOYER TO REQUIRE A PERSON TO VIOLATE OR FOREGO THE WEARING OF
RELIGIOUS ATTIRE OR FACIAL HAIR IN ACCORDANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF HIS OR
HER RELIGION, UNLESS THE EMPLOYER DEMONSTRATES THAT IT IS UNABLE TO
REASONABLY ACCOMMODATE THE PERSON'S RELIGIOUS PRACTICE WITHOUT UNDUE
HARDSHIP ON THE CONDUCT OF THE EMPLOYER'S BUSINESS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. RA.
BUT BEFORE MR. RA, MEMBERS, WE ARE ON DEBATE.
PLEASE, IF YOU'RE HAVING CONFERENCES IN THE AISLES, PLEASE TAKE THEM TO
THE BACK.
PROCEED, MR. RA.
MR. RA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WILL THE SPONSOR
YIELD?
MR. WEPRIN: ABSOLUTELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. WEPRIN YIELDS.
MR. RA: THANK YOU. WE JUST A HAD A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS. MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS CAME ABOUT AS A
RESULT OF A SITUATION WITH -- WITH AN INDIVIDUAL IN A -- IN A UNIFORM.
MR. WEPRIN: YES.
MR. RA: CORRECT? SO, IT'S DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE
TYPES OF SITUATIONS. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER -- IS THE EXCEPTION
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APPLICABLE, SAY, IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A SAFETY -- MAYBE IT'S, YOU
KNOW, A FACTORY FLOOR OR SOMETHING OF THAT -- OF THAT NATURE, WHERE THE
PIECE OF ATTIRE COULD -- COULD BECOME, YOU KNOW, ENTANGLED OR BE A
SAFETY PROBLEM?
MR. WEPRIN: ABSOLUTELY, THAT WOULD COME UNDER
THE EXCEPTION THAT THE EMPLOYER WOULD DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE'S A
DANGER TO PUBLIC SAFETY, TO THE INDIVIDUAL OR OTHERS, AND THAT WOULD
CERTAINLY COME UNDER THE RELIGIOUS -- THE EXCEPTION.
MR. RA: OKAY. AND THEN, ALSO IN SOMEWHAT OF A
SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT -- BUT NOT DIRECTLY A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT -- OR
PERHAPS A SANITARY ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IN A -- IN A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT
SITUATION, WOULD THAT ALSO BE WITHIN THE EXCEPTION?
MR. WEPRIN: WELL, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE EMPLOYER
TO ESTABLISH THAT THERE -- THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
MR. RA: OKAY.
MR. WEPRIN: BUT IF HE -- IF HE COULD SHOW THAT IT
WAS A PROBLEM FOR SAFETY OF A -- THE INDIVIDUAL OR OTHERS THROUGH THE
FOOD INDUSTRY, THAT COULD BE -- THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION.
MR. RA: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, SIR.
MR. RA: THANK YOU. I -- I THANK MR. WEPRIN FOR --
FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. THIS IS CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO DRESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH -- WITH
THEIR BELIEFS AND AS REQUIRED BY THEIR BELIEFS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT
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WE SHOULD PROTECT AND, YOU KNOW, IS A LAUDABLE GOAL. I DO HOPE THAT AS
WE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD IF -- IF ANY OF THOSE
TYPES OF ISSUES COME UP, THAT WE MAKE SURE IT'S -- IT'S CLEAR THAT IN THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT -- THAT THE EMPLOYER, YOU KNOW, WHO WAS MAKING A
REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO -- TO ACCOMMODATE THE EMPLOYEE, BUT -- BUT HAS,
YOU KNOW, A SAFETY OR SANITARY CONCERN RELATED TO THE OPERATING OF THEIR
BUSINESS, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE -- THEY ARE PROTECTED AS WELL.
SO, I KNOW A NUMBER OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE VOTED AGAINST THIS IN THE
PAST FOR, YOU KNOW, WITH -- WITH REGARD TO THOSE CONCERNS, BUT -- BUT I
HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD WE CAN -- WE CAN CONTINUE IF WE
NEED TO FURTHER ADDRESS THE ISSUE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.
READ THE LAST SECTION --
MR. EICHENSTEIN.
MR. EICHENSTEIN: ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, SIR.
MR. EICHENSTEIN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I
RISE TODAY TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION PROHIBITING
DISCRIMINATION AGAINST RELIGIOUS ATTIRE. BEING THAT FREEDOM OF RELIGIOUS
EXPRESSION IS ONE OF THE MOST BASIC VALUES THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED
ON, I'M STUNNED THAT THIS ISSUE IS STILL UP FOR DEBATE IN 2019. HIJABS,
TURBANS, YARMULKES, THESE ARE GARMENTS WORN BY RELIGIOUS INDIVIDUALS
AS A PRACTICE OF OUR FAITH. NOBODY SHOULD EVER BE FORCED TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN THEIR EMPLOYMENT OR THEIR RELIGION AND TODAY, WE CAN MAKE A
STEP -- WE CAN TAKE A STEP FORWARD ON THE ROAD TOWARDS ERADICATING
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DISCRIMINATION AND INTOLERANCE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR
FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE FORWARD.
AS THE MOST DIVERSE STATE IN THE NATION, WE NEED TO
LEAD BY EXAMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION, JUST AS
I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO STAND HERE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THIS BODY
AND I DON'T HAVE TO COMPROMISE MY DRESS, MY BELIEFS, MY VALUES, MY
WAY OF LIFE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE NATION
UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.
READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. WEPRIN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. WEPRIN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'D LIKE --
I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS BILL MAY FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME ACTUALLY PASS IN
THE STATE SENATE. AND I'D LIKE TO DEDICATE THE BILL TO KEVIN HARRINGTON.
THE STORY OF KEVIN HARRINGTON IS WHAT PROMPTED ME TO INTRODUCE THIS
LEGISLATION. KEVIN HARRINGTON WAS BORN AN IRISH CATHOLIC WHO
CONVERTED TO SIKHISM MANY YEARS AGO. AND HE WAS A TRAIN OPERATOR AT
THE FRONT OF THE TRAIN FOR THE E-TRAIN, WHICH THOSE OF YOU FROM QUEENS
AND NEW YORK CITY KNOW GOES IN -- INTO AND OUT OF THE WORLD TRADE
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CENTER. AND HE WAS A HERO DURING 9/11. HE ACTUALLY DROVE THE E-TRAIN
BACK AND FORTH WHILE THE BUILDINGS WERE BURNING IN THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER AND ACTUALLY RESCUED HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUALS AND BROUGHT THEM
TO THEIR SAFETY WHILE HE WAS RISKING HIS LIFE. BUT HOW DID -- WHAT DID
THE MTA DO TO REWARD HIM? WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AFTER 9/11, THE
MTA GOT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC
COMPLAINING THAT THERE WAS A TERRORIST DRIVING THE E-TRAIN. AND WHY
DID THEY SAY THAT? BECAUSE HE HAD A LONG BEARD AND A TURBAN, AND
RESEMBLED OSAMA BIN LADEN. SO, FOR THE KEVIN HARRINGTON'S OF THE
WORLD AND TO PUT AN END TO IGNORANCE AND DISCRIMINATION, I WITHDRAW
MY REQUEST AND PROUDLY VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. WEPRIN IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05975, RULES REPORT
NO. 32, REYES. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO
AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF PREGNANCY-RELATED CONDITION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MS. REYES TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.
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MS. REYES: GOOD AFTERNOON. SO, I JUST WANT TO
SPEAK ON THE BILL TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. HUMAN MILK IS THE MOST NATURAL
AND MOST COMPLETE SOURCE OF NUTRITION FOR INFANTS. THE VALUE OF
BREASTFEEDING FOR INFANT NUTRITION AND MATERNAL HEALTH OUTCOMES HAS
BEEN LONG RECOGNIZED. FOR MOTHERS, BREASTFEEDING HAS BEEN FOUND TO
REDUCE THE RISK OF BREAST CANCER, OVARIAN CANCER, FOR INFANTS IT HELPS
BUILD IMMUNITY. THIS -- THOUGH WE HAVE PASSED LEGISLATION THAT
PROTECTS PREGNANCY-RELATED CONDITIONS, THIS BILL AMENDS THE DEFINITION
OF PREGNANCY-RELATED CONDITIONS TO INCLUDE LACTATION. I THINK IN THE
INTERESTS OF THE HEALTH OF OUR INFANTS AND THE HEALTH OF OUR MOTHERS AND
FAMILIES, WE SHOULD BE REQUIRING EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE REASONABLE
ACCOMMODATIONS FOR MOTHERS TO BREASTFEED. THANK YOU. I WILL BE
VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. REYES IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
CONGRATULATIONS, MS. REYES, YOUR FIRST, I BELIEVE.
(APPLAUSE)
GREAT BILL.
(APPLAUSE)
IT ONLY HAPPENS ONCE, MS. REYES.
(LAUGHTER)
THE CLERK WILL READ.
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THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05976, RULES REPORT
NO. 33, WRIGHT, PEOPLES-STOKES, BARRON, BICHOTTE, COOK, CRESPO, DE
LA ROSA, GALEF, O'DONNELL, ROZIC, SEAWRIGHT, SIMON, TAYLOR, L.
ROSENTHAL, HUNTER, GLICK, ARROYO, ORTIZ, NIOU, GOTTFRIED, SIMOTAS,
WALLACE, OTIS, BRONSON, WEPRIN, FALL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE
FINANCE LAW, THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES THE PUBLIC OFFICERS
LAW, THE GENERAL OBLIGATIONS LAW, THE LABOR LAW AND THE EXECUTIVE
LAW, IN RELATION TO DISCRIMINATION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS
REQUESTED, MS. WRIGHT.
MS. WRIGHT: THIS BILL IS A MEASURE TO ASSIST OUR
SMALL -- ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES IN NEW YORK STATE IN HELPING THEM TO
CREATE SAFE AND NON-DISCRIMINATORY WORKPLACES. DISCRIMINATION IS
TOXIC TO OUR WORK ENVIRONMENTS AND THIS LEGISLATION IS A
COMPREHENSIVE MEASURE TO ASSIST EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES IN
MAINTAINING A WORKPLACE FREE OF DISCRIMINATION. IT PROVIDES
DISCRIMINATION PREVENTION POLICY, AS WELL AS TRAINING MATERIALS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER. WOULD THE SPONSOR YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WILL YOU YIELD, MS.
WRIGHT?
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR YIELDS.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. WRIGHT.
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TO BE CLEAR, NONE OF US IN THIS ROOM SUPPORT DISCRIMINATION IN THE
WORKPLACE.
MS. WRIGHT: DEFINITELY.
MR. GOODELL: SO, THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS NOT
WHETHER OR NOT WE SUPPORT DISCRIMINATION, BUT WHETHER OR NOT WE
SUPPORT THE LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME,
RIGHT?
MS. WRIGHT: I CAN -- I CAN AGREE TO THAT.
MR. GOODELL: SO, I WANTED TO START BY FIRST ASKING
YOU TO KIND OF DEFINE THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL. IN PREVIOUS BILLS WHERE WE
REQUIRED EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE ANTI-DISCRIMINATION TRAINING AND A
PROGRAM AND WHATNOT AND WE JUST KICKED THAT OFF THIS YEAR, EMPLOYERS
ALL ACROSS THE STATE DID THAT, BUT WE LIMITED THAT MANDATE TO EMPLOYERS
WITH FOUR OR MORE EMPLOYEES. THIS BILL ELIMINATES THE REQUIREMENT
THAT THERE BE AT LEAST FOUR EMPLOYEES, CORRECT?
MS. WRIGHT: IT DOES.
MR. GOODELL: AND SO, THIS BILL WOULD NOW APPLY
TO ANY EMPLOYER, EVEN IF IT WAS ONE JUST EMPLOYEE.
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: AND IT LIKEWISE IT WOULD APPLY
EVEN IF THAT ONE EMPLOYEE WAS PART-TIME?
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: OR SEASONAL?
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: OR PART-TIME AND SEASONAL?
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MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: SO, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT WAS
WORKING FOR, YOU SAY, FOUR HOURS A MONTH, CAME IN ONE DAY A WEEK,
YOU WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE A [SIC] ANTI-DISCRIMINATION TRAINING
PROGRAM THAT'S INTERACTIVE AS APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR?
MS. WRIGHT: AND PROVIDE -- IT WILL BE NOT ONLY
MANDATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, BUT DESIGNED AND OFFERED TO
YOU FREE OF CHARGE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.
MR. GOODELL: NOW, HOW LONG DOES THIS
INTERACTIVE DISCRIMINATION PROGRAM, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GO
THROUGH IT?
MS. WRIGHT: APPROXIMATELY -- I BELIEVE IT'S AN
HOUR OF TRAINING.
MR. GOODELL: OKAY. AND THIS WOULD APPLY IN THE
MORE IMMEDIATE CONTEXT DEALING WITH MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS, ANY TIME
YOU HAD AN EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS FOR
A PARENT-CHILD, SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GIVE DISCRIMINATION TRAINING IF
YOU WERE HIRING YOUR CHILD.
MS. WRIGHT: RIGHT.
MR. GOODELL: OR BETWEEN A SPOUSE.
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: I, LIKE MANY MEN, GET REGULAR
TRAINING BY OUR SPOUSE ON A RAFT-LOAD OF ISSUES ALREADY, AND THE ANSWER,
BY THE WAY, IS YES, DEAR.
MS. WRIGHT: (LAUGHTER) GOOD ANSWER.
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MR. GOODELL: IT DIDN'T REALLY TAKE ME AN HOUR TO
FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT...
BUT IT WOULD ALSO NOT APPLY TO CERTAIN DOMESTIC
WORKERS, CORRECT?
MS. WRIGHT: RIGHT, THAT IS CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: BUT THIS IS NOT TRIGGERED BY
WHETHER OR NOT THE EMPLOYER IS COMPLYING WITH OUR LABOR LAWS IN
TERMS OF FILING A W-2, RIGHT? IT WOULD APPLY WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO A
W-2 OR A 1099?
MS. WRIGHT: NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS CLEAR
BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE 1099S DO NOT CONSIDER THOSE WORKERS AS
THEIR EMPLOYEES. THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONTRACTING. AND SO,
USUALLY, WHEN YOU'RE PROVIDING A 1099, THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE
CONTRACT WORKERS WHO ARE NOT YOUR EMPLOYEE, FOR WHOM YOU ALSO DON'T
CARRY DISABILITY OR WORKERS' COMP INSURANCE. SO THEY'RE NOT -- THEY'RE
OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY CHARACTERIZE AS AN
EMPLOYEE.
MR. GOODELL: AND IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS
STATUTORY LANGUAGE OR IN THE SECTION 292 OF THE EXECUTIVE LAW THAT
MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THOSE WHO ARE WORKING PURSUANT TO A 1099 ARE NOT
INCLUDED WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF AN "EMPLOYEE"?
MS. WRIGHT: THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS BILL THAT SAYS
SPECIFICALLY "CONTRACT WORKERS ARE NOT YOUR EMPLOYEES"; HOWEVER, WE
ALSO HAVE CLEAR DEFINITIONS OF "CONTRACT WORKERS" BEING INDEPENDENT
CONTRACTORS, SO THEY ARE -- THEY DO NOT FALL IN, I DON'T THINK, THAT I'M
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AWARE OF, OF ANY DEFINITION AS "YOUR EMPLOYEE".
MR. GOODELL: OKAY. SO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
CONTRACTED WORKERS --
MS. WRIGHT: MM-HMM.
MR. GOODELL: -- IT'S VERY BROAD.
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: -- AND WOULD INCLUDE ANYONE,
REGARDLESS OF HOW LITTLE OR HOW INFREQUENTLY THEY WORK FOR THE
EMPLOYER.
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: IS THERE A TIME REQUIREMENT THAT
WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, WEEKS OR MONTHS THE EMPLOYER MUST
PROVIDE THIS TRAINING?
MS. WRIGHT: THERE IS NOT ANYTHING STATED IN HERE;
HOWEVER, EACH -- I BELIEVE THAT THE GUIDANCE WILL BE COMING FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF LABOR ON HOW FREQUENTLY AND REGULARLY YOU SHOULD BE
PROVIDING THIS TRAINING TO YOUR STAFF. SO, IT DOES NOT PUT A TIME LIMIT ON
FROM THE DATE OF HIRE TO WHEN THEY MUST HAVE THE TRAINING, BUT IT WILL
BE GUIDANCE ON HOW FREQUENTLY WE SHOULD SEE IT, AND IT SHOULD BE
ANNUALLY.
MR. GOODELL: ARE YOU AWARE OF THE NUMBER OF
EMPLOYERS IN NEW YORK STATE THAT EMPLOY AT LEAST ONE EMPLOYEE?
MS. WRIGHT: I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT NUMBER, BUT I
DO KNOW THAT EVERY EMPLOYER HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE A SAFE
WORK ENVIRONMENT AND TO MEET REGULATIONS DICTATED BY THE STATE. AND
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IF WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL COST TO THEM TO BE -- TO OBLIGE, TO
BECOME IN COMPLIANCE WITH IT, THEN IT'S NOT TRULY A BURDEN FOR THEM TO
DEDICATE ONE HOUR, BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER TRAINING AND/OR
CERTIFICATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED TO WORK. IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS
ANYBODY THAT HAS TO GET, SAY, FOOD HANDLERS' LICENSES TO SERVE COFFEE,
THEY NOW HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE CERTIFICATION THAT
PROVES THAT THEY HAVE UNDERGONE ANTI-DISCRIMINATION TRAINING.
MR. GOODELL: MOVING ON A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE --
YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING CONCEPT, THAT WE REQUIRE
YOUR SOLE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE TO UNDERGO COMPREHENSIVE
DISCRIMINATION AWARENESS POLICIES THAT WOULDN'T APPLY TO ANY OTHER
EMPLOYEE SINCE IT'S THE ONLY EMPLOYEE THAT YOU HAVE, WHEN WE ALREADY
BAR ANY DISCRIMINATION BY THE EMPLOYER ONE-ON-ONE.
MS. WRIGHT: WELL --
MR. GOODELL: BUT -- BUT THERE'S OTHER PROVISIONS,
IF WE MAY MOVE ON.
MS. WRIGHT: GO AHEAD.
MR. GOODELL: THIS BANS MANDATORY ARBITRATION
CLAUSES --
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: -- UNLESS IT'S PART OF A COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENT; IS THAT CORRECT?
MS. WRIGHT: THIS DOES NOT UNDERMINE A COLLECTIVE
BARGAINING AGREEMENT. WHAT THIS DOES IS ALLOWS FOR ANYONE WHO IS
FACING DISCRIMINATION TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT TO GO TO COURT.
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SO, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU MAY NOT AVAIL YOURSELF OF ARBITRATION, WE'RE
SAYING THAT IT MAY NOT BE FORCED UPON AN EMPLOYEE. AND, THEREFORE, IF
THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN AN EXISTING AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THERE IS
MANDATORY ARBITRATION RELATED TO THE DISCRIMINATION, JUST LIKE MOST
OTHER CONTRACTS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEVER THAT CLAUSE FROM THE
CONTRACT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTENT, THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE
DOCUMENT.
MR. GOODELL: AS YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES THE
ARBITRATION PROVISIONS ARE PROVISIONS THAT ARE REQUESTED AND NEGOTIATED
BY THE EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATIVES, BY THE UNION. IT'S A -- IT'S A RIGHT THAT
THE UNION WANTS TO HAVE IN ORDER TO FORCE ARBITRATION, WHICH IS OFTEN
FASTER AND LESS EXPENSIVE, AND UNIONS VIEW THAT AS A POSITIVE PROVISION
IN THE CONTRACT. BUT DOESN'T THIS ELIMINATE OR UNDERCUT THAT CONCEPT?
MS. WRIGHT: IF IT'S RELATED TO DISCRIMINATION, IT
MOST DEFINITELY DOES REMOVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ENFORCE
MANDATORY ARBITRATION. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY CANNOT STILL AVAIL
THEMSELVES OF IT, BECAUSE THEY -- THE PARTIES CAN AGREE TO ELECT TO GO TO
ARBITRATION. WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT THEY MAY NOT MANDATE ARBITRATION ON
AN EMPLOYEE.
MR. GOODELL: NOW, THERE'S ANOTHER PROVISION,
AND THIS DEALS WITH NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS.
MS. WRIGHT: YES. I CAN'T REMEMBER --
MR. GOODELL: AND IT PROVIDES THAT YOU CANNOT
HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT EITHER AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT OR AS
PART OF A JUDGMENT, AS I UNDER -- WELL, AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT, UNLESS IT'S
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THE COMPLAINANT'S PREFERENCE.
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: WHAT -- WHAT'S MEANT BY
"PREFERENCE"?
MS. WRIGHT: THEIR CHOICE.
MR. GOODELL: OKAY. SO, LET'S SAY THE EMPLOYER
SAYS, WE DON'T AGREE THAT THERE WAS ANY DISCRIMINATION WHATSOEVER, BUT
WE DON'T WANT TO INCUR THE COST OF LITIGATION, AND THE POTENTIAL DAMAGE
TO OUR REPUTATION, EVEN IF WE'RE PROVEN TO BE NON-DISCRIMINATORY, SO
WE'RE WILLING TO SETTLE THIS UPON A PAYMENT OF X DOLLARS, BUT ON THE
CONDITION THAT YOU DON'T DESTROY OUR REPUTATION ON A CLAIM --
MS. WRIGHT: SO, THAT MEANS THAT THE --
MR. GOODELL: -- THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH.
MS. WRIGHT: WELL, THAT MEANS THAT THE -- THAT
MEANS THE CLAIMANT WOULD HAVE THE CHOICE, AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE IT. IT IS A CHOICE. THE -- WE'RE JUST
SAYING IT CANNOT BE MANDATED THAT THEY CANNOT -- IT CANNOT BE FORCED
UPON THEM. SO, I BELIEVE THE LANGUAGE IS... WHERE IS IT...
MR. GOODELL: IT'S ON PAGE 3 STARTING ON LINE --
MS. WRIGHT: -- EMPLOYER --
MR. GOODELL: FOUR.
MS. WRIGHT: RIGHT. SO, IT'S THEIR -- UNLESS THE
CLAIMANT AGREES TO IT. SO, IT'S SAYING THAT THE OFFICERS CANNOT
AUTOMATICALLY MANDATE -- THE OFFICERS -- THE COMPANY NOR ITS OFFICERS
ARE ABLE TO AUTOMATICALLY MANDATE THIS.
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MR. GOODELL: ALL RIGHT. THEN THE -- EVEN IF YOU
HAVE A SETTLEMENT AND THAT SETTLEMENT INCLUDES A NON-DISCLOSURE
PROVISION --
MS. WRIGHT: THE SETTLEMENT THAT IS AGREED TO BY
THE CLAIMANT --
MR. GOODELL: RIGHT.
MS. WRIGHT: -- CAN HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE;
HOWEVER, THEN THERE ARE TERMS FOR A SEVEN-DAY WAIT PERIOD, AS WELL AS A
21-DAY -- I THINK THERE'S ALSO A 21-DAY TERM IN THERE FOR IT TO BE -- FOR
THEM TO HAVE TIME FOR IT TO BE REVIEWED.
MR. GOODELL: RIGHT. 21 DAYS TO HAVE IT
REVIEWED, AND THEN A SEVEN-DAY RECISION PROVISION.
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: WHICH MEANS, IN ESSENCE, THAT A
SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT COULD NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE FOR FOUR WEEKS.
MS. WRIGHT: ALL THE TERMS --
MR. GOODELL: IF IT CONTAINS --
MS. WRIGHT: -- WITH EXCEPTION OF THE -- SO, YES.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT.
MR. GOODELL: IF IT CONTAINS A NON-DISCLOSURE.
WHAT IF THE CLAIMANT WANTS TO BE PAID SOONER THAN FOUR WEEKS? CAN
THE CLAIMANT WAIVE THOSE TIMEFRAMES?
MS. WRIGHT: THIS DOES NOT PROHIBIT WAIVER. BUT
IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC POLICY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SET HERE, AND
PROTECTION OF WORKERS' RIGHTS, WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT THEM NOT TO
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WAIVE THE RIGHTS THAT WE ARE SPECIFICALLY DELINEATING IN THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. SO, WHILE WE ARE NOT FORBIDDING IT OUTRIGHT, IT IS SOMETHING
THAT IS AGAINST PUBLIC POLICY.
MR. GOODELL: OKAY. NOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING
AT THE DEFINITION OF "EMPLOYER", WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEFINITION
OF "EMPLOYEE".
MS. WRIGHT: YES.
MR. GOODELL: AND I SEE THE DEFINITION OF
"EMPLOYEE" IS NOT BEING AMENDED THIS BILL, BUT I WANTED TO JUST TRACK
THAT DOWN. NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE DEFINITION OF AN "EMPLOYEE" IS
CONTAINED IN SECTION 292, SUBPARAGRAPH 6 OF THE EXECUTIVE LAW.
MS. WRIGHT: OKAY.
MR. GOODELL: AND THAT COVERS EVERYONE EXCEPT
DOMESTIC PERSONS AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 296-B OF THE EXECUTIVE LAW.
AND SECTION 296-B DESCRIBES DOMESTIC WORKERS AS HAVING THE MEANING
AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 2 OF THE LABOR LAW. AND SECTION 2 OF THE LABOR
LAW IN SUBPARAGRAPH 16 HAS A COMPLEX DEFINITION WHICH REFERS TO
SECTION 213 OF THE FAIR LABOR STANDARDS ACT OF 1938. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO WALK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE CROSS-REFERENCES AND EXCEPTIONS SO WE
KNOW WHAT'S COVERED? THAT -- YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION. MY REAL QUESTION WAS THIS, BECAUSE I -- TO BE HONEST WITH
YOU, IT WOULD TAKE ME A HALF AN HOUR TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE
CROSS-REFERENCES, AND EVEN THEN, I'M NOT SURE EITHER OF US WOULD
UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHO IS COVERED, WITH NO DISRESPECT.
SO, MY QUESTION IS, DON'T WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
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ARTICLE III, SECTION 16 OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION WHICH SAYS, "NO ACT
SHALL BE PASSED THAT SHALL PROVIDE THAT ANY EXISTING LAW OR PART THEREOF
SHALL BE MADE OR DEEMED PART OF THE ACT UNLESS IT'S INSERTED IN THE TEXT."
IN OTHER WORDS, THE CONSTITUTION REFERS, IT SEEMS TO ME, EXPRESSLY
PROHIBITS THESE MULTIPLE INCORPORATIONS BY REFERENCE. WOULDN'T YOU
AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE NICE --
MS. WRIGHT: SO THAT'S ONE INTERPRETATION.
MR. GOODELL: -- IF WE HAD A DEFINITION THAT WE
COULD READ AND UNDERSTAND WITHOUT LOOKING UP SIX OTHER LAWS?
MS. WRIGHT: I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS -- THAT IS ONE
INTERPRETATION, AND THAT GOOD DRAFTING MIGHT ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT --
THOSE CONCERNS. BUT, WE ALSO KNOW IN PRACTICE THAT WE DO MAKE
REFERENCE AND, THEREFORE, IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE TEXT BECAUSE THE
REFERENCE DIRECTLY TAKES US TO THE NEXT PAGE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE
REFERENCING. SO, WE DO THAT IN PRACTICE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE --
WE'RE MEETING THE LETTER OF THE LAW BY WRITING IT IN THE TEXT, BY GIVING
DIRECT REFERENCE, BUT, GOOD DRAFTING AND REPEATING DEFINITIONS AND/OR
ANY OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION IS HELPFUL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MS. WRIGHT.
ON THE BILL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.
GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR. AS I STARTED OUT AT
THE BEGINNING, WE OBVIOUSLY ALL OPPOSE DISCRIMINATION IN THE
WORKPLACE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY, HOWEVER, THAT EVERY SINGLE
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EMPLOYER IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REGARDLESS OF HOW FEW EMPLOYEES
THEY HAVE, OR HOW INFREQUENTLY THEY WORK, OR WHETHER THEY'RE SEASONAL,
SHOULD BE OBLIGATED TO GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE MANDATED EMPLOYMENT
DISCRIMINATION COURSE PUT ON OR SPONSORED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
LABOR. THINK ABOUT THIS. YOU HAVE A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, I HAVE ONE,
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WORKS ONE DAY A WEEK. SO, I'M SUPPOSED TO TAKE AN
HOUR AND HAVE HER GO THROUGH A SEXUAL HARASSMENT SENSITIVITY TRAINING
COURSE SO THAT SHE DOESN'T HARASS HERSELF? I DON'T THINK SHE DOES
ANYWAY. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
BUT, WHEN WE IMPOSE THESE REQUIREMENTS ON
EMPLOYERS, IT COSTS MONEY AND IT CREATES PROBLEMS. AND THEN WE SAY,
YOU CAN'T HAVE A NON-DISCLOSURE CLAUSE. AS AN ATTORNEY, I WILL TELL YOU
THERE ARE MANY EMPLOYERS THAT WILL PAY A CLAIMANT REAL MONEY TO AVOID
THE COST OF PAYING THEIR ATTORNEY REAL MONEY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: YES.
MR. GOODELL: THEN I'D BE HAPPY --
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: YES, AS A MATTER OF
FACT.
MR. GOODELL: SINCE I'M OUT OF TIME, I WILL COME
BACK LATER. THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ABSOLUTELY.
MR. RA.
MS. WRIGHT. ON --
MS. WRIGHT: ON THE BILL.
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ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL.
MS. WRIGHT: IT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
STAND TOGETHER AT THIS TIME AND PASS DISCRIM -- FULL ANTI-DISCRIMINATION
LEGISLATION. WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT -- WE'RE TRYING TO
CHANGE ENVIRONMENTS, AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN IT.
MOST RECENTLY, IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT, CHIEF -- THE JUSTICE
JAMES HO REFUSED TO EXPAND THE UNDERSTANDING OF DISCRIMINATION OR
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION RIGHTS TO LGBTQ CONSTITUENTS. HE SPECIFICALLY
STATED IN HIS OPINION AND IN HIS OCCUR -- HIS CONCURRENCE, THAT NO ONE
SERIOUSLY CONTENDS THAT AT THE TIME OF ENACTMENT, THE PUBLIC MEANING
AND UNDERSTANDING OF TITLE VII INCLUDED SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR
TRANSGENDER DISCRIMINATION. HE SAID, TO THE CONTRARY, THERE IS A JUDICIAL
CONSENSUS THAT THE PUBLIC MEANING OF TITLE VII DID NOT INCLUDE SEXUAL
ORIENTATION OR TRANSGENDER DISCRIMINATION.
WE, IN THIS MOMENT, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
SURE THAT OUR LEGISLATION SPEAKS CLEARLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY TO ALL OF THE
GROUPS THAT WE WANT TO SEE PROTECTED UNDER OUR DISCRIMINATION LAWS.
THIS LINES -- THIS LAW WILL ALIGN OUR EXECUTIVE LAW WITH WHAT EXISTS
UNDER OUR HUMAN RIGHTS LAW. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT
LEAVING ANYONE OUT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING AN
ENVIRONMENT -- A WORK ENVIRONMENT IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HONORS ALL
PEOPLE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MR. GOODELL FOR ROUND TWO.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR. AND AGAIN, THANK
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YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR HER COMMENTS THAT WERE VERY HELPFUL.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, THIS COVERS EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYER,
REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING IF YOU HAVE A PART-TIME
SEASONAL WORKER. IT BANS NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS. AND, AS AN
ATTORNEY, I -- I'VE HAD THAT SITUATION WHERE CLIENTS WERE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
THAT THEY WERE INNOCENT OF ANY WRONGDOING, BUT THEIR LAWYER WAS
EQUALLY CLEAR IT WAS GOING TO COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY TO LITIGATE. AND
IN THAT SITUATION, A SETTLEMENT IS OFTEN THE -- TO THE BEST INTERESTS OF BOTH
PARTIES. IT'S THE BEST INTEREST OF THE EMPLOYER, EVEN THOUGH THEY THINK
THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT, BECAUSE IT COSTS THEM LESS TO SETTLE THAN IT
DOES TO LITIGATE. AND IT IS MOST CERTAINLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CLAIMANT
BECAUSE THEY GET A SETTLEMENT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE RISK OF
GETTING NOTHING. BUT THOSE SETTLEMENTS ONLY WORK IF THERE'S A
NON-DISCLOSURE, BECAUSE A MAJOR PART OF MOST SETTLEMENTS IS, DON'T
DESTROY MY REPUTATION WHEN I'M INNOCENT. WELL, THIS BILL PROHIBITS A
NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT UNLESS IT'S THE CLAIMANT'S PREFERENCE. THE
PROBLEM IS, YOU DON'T GET AN OFFER FROM THE EMPLOYER UNLESS THE OFFER
ITSELF CAN BE ASSURED OF CONFIDENTIALITY.
SO, WHILE WE WANT TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEE, THE NET
EFFECT OF THIS IS WE ELIMINATE THE ABILITY OF EMPLOYERS, MANY
EMPLOYERS, TO MAKE AN OFFER OF SETTLEMENT TO THE CLAIMANT, WHICH IS
EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, RIGHT? WE WANT THE
CLAIMANT TO HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF THEM. AND WE BAN
MANDATORY ARBITRATION CLAUSES. YOU KNOW WHO FIGHTS THE HARDEST FOR
MANDATORY ARBITRATION CLAUSES IN MOST EMPLOYMENT CONTEXT? IT'S THE
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EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE IT'S FASTER AND LESS EXPENSIVE. AS AN ATTORNEY, I
CAN TIE UP A CASE FOR MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS, IN OUR COURT SYSTEM; THAT'S
WHY WE HAVE ARBITRATION.
SO, WHILE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT
THAT WE SHOULD MINIMIZE DISCRIMINATION, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT
WE DO NOT WANT TO INADVERTENTLY IMPOSE A HUGE UNFUNDED MANDATE ON
EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYER - AND, BY THE WAY, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF EMPLOYERS IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, INCLUDING THE SMALLEST
EMPLOYERS THAT EMPLOY ONLY ONE PERSON PART-TIME - WHILE INADVERTENTLY
PULLING THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH ALL THE CLAIMANTS WHO MIGHT
BENEFIT FROM A SETTLEMENT OFFER THAT INCLUDES A NON-DISCLOSURE
PROVISION.
FOR THOSE REASONS, I AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL
NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER,
AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. TAYLOR TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE COULD
GO BACK TO THE MAIN CALENDAR ON PAGE 5, CALENDAR NO. 4, MS.
ROSENTHAL, ON DEBATE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00290, CALENDAR NO.
4, L. ROSENTHAL, DE LA ROSA, SEAWRIGHT, WALKER, DICKENS, VANEL. AN
ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING FEMININE
HYGIENE PRODUCTS IN CHARTER SCHOOLS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS
REQUESTED, MS. ROSENTHAL.
MS. ROSENTHAL: OKAY. THIS BILL WILL -- WILL
REQUIRE CHARTER SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE FREE MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS FOR
KIDS IN GRADES 6-12.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. BYRNES.
MS. BYRNES: THANK YOU. WILL -- WILL THE SPONSOR
YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. ROSENTHAL, WILL
YOU YIELD?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR YIELDS,
MS. BYRNES.
MS BYRNES: THANK YOU, KIND SIR. THE QUESTION I
HAVE IS DO WE, AS A LEGISLATURE, HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE A PRIVATE
INSTITUTION TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR FREE IN THIS NATURE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE NOT
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CONSIDERED PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS. CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE CONSIDERED -- THEY
GET FUNDING, THEY'RE CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
MS. BYRNES: EXCUSE ME, JUST ONE SECOND.
MR. SPEAKER, I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AND YOU HAVE THE
PERFECT RIGHT TO EXPECT SOME SILENCE.
SO THAT MEANS, SHH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MS. BYRNES: MY APOLOGIES, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: NO PROBLEM, YOU
DON'T NEED TO APOLOGIZE, WE DO.
MS. BYRNES: I -- I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. WOULD YOU
BE SO KIND AS TO REPEAT IT?
MS. ROSENTHAL: SURE. CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE
CONSIDERED PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THEY ARE FUNDED THROUGH PUBLIC DOLLARS.
IT'S JUST THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ADMINISTRATIVE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT
THEY DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE -- THEY DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW, AND COMPLYING
WITH THE LAW THAT GOVERNS THE 2.6 MILLION STUDENTS IN NEW YORK STATE
PUBLIC SCHOOLS. SO, THIS JUST MAKES IT PARITY.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN, DO THE
ADMINISTRATIVE RULES ALLOW AND REQUIRE THIS INSTITUTION, THE CHARTER
SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE THESE FREE PRODUCTS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: SAY THAT AGAIN? I COULDN'T HEAR
YOU.
MS. BYRNES: DO -- APPARENTLY, I'M TALLER THAN THE
MICROPHONE IS.
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(LAUGHTER)
MS. ROSENTHAL: THIS SYSTEM, LIKE, SEEMS TO BE
LESS --
MS. BYRNES: SO, THE -- THEN, IF THEY'RE GOVERNED BY
THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES REQUIRE THAT THESE
PRODUCTS BE PROVIDED FOR FREE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE PASSED
IN -- WE PASSED A LAW THAT SAID THAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN NEW YORK STATE
HAVE TO PROVIDE FREE PRODUCTS. IT WAS DISCUSSED DURING ENACTMENT OF
THAT WHETHER THAT COVERED CHARTER SCHOOLS, AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT
DID NOT, WHICH IS WHY I'M DOING THIS BILL, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCESS
ACROSS THE STATE FOR KIDS IN SECONDARY AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. SO, CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE
DIFFERENT THAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS --
MS. ROSENTHAL: BUT AS I SAID --
MS. BYRNES: -- WHICH IS WHY THIS NEEDED TO BE
DONE.
MS. ROSENTHAL: YES.
MS. BYRNES: OKAY.
MS. ROSENTHAL: AS I SAID, THEY ARE PUBLIC
SCHOOLS, THERE ARE JUST CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW.
APPARENTLY, THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN, GOING BACK TO
MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES OR ANY RULES REQUIRE
THAT THIS TYPE OF A CHARTER SCHOOL INSTITUTION PROVIDE THIS TYPE OF
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PRODUCT FOR FREE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, NO, WHICH IS WHY I'M
DOING THIS BILL.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS NO RULE
REQUIRING IT, AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED A STATUTE.
MS. ROSENTHAL: EXACTLY.
MS. BYRNES: TO -- TO FORCE THEM TO REQUIRE THEM
TO.
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, "FORCE THEM" IS AN
INTERESTING CHOICE OF WORDS, BECAUSE THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT HALF THE
POPULATION NEEDS AT A -- ANY TIME OF THE MONTH, AND WE'RE JUST MAKING
IT AVAILABLE TO ALL KIDS WHO NEED TO DEAL WITH MENSTRUAL HYGIENE.
MS. BYRNES: COULD THE SCHOOL SEEK
REIMBURSEMENT FROM PARENTS OR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS?
MS. ROSENTHAL: NOT ONCE IT'S THE LAW.
MS. BYRNES: OKAY.
MS. ROSENTHAL: AND, IN ADDITION, WE'VE SPOKEN
TO SOME CHARTER SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, HERE AND THERE, AND SOME ALREADY
DO THIS. SO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GREAT RESISTANCE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE
INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW.
MS. BYRNES: OKAY. AS I HAD MENTIONED DURING
THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS TOLD TO ME BY SOME
OF THE SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WAS THAT THEY'RE HAVING LOT OF
THEFT-RELATED ISSUES, AND IT'S BECOME QUITE AN EXPENSE, ALBEIT OUT OF
THEIR ALLOCATED FUNDS AND, AS A RESULT, IS THIS THE TYPE OF UNNECESSARY
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EXPENSE, IF THERE'S A LOT OF THEFT --
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL --
MS. BYRNES: -- THAT'S GOING ON THAT WE WANT TO
PUSH DOWN ONTO ANOTHER INSTITUTION?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WELL, I'VE HEARD THE THEFT
ARGUMENT, AND PEOPLE WHO TAKE EXTRA PRODUCTS NEED THOSE EXTRA
PRODUCTS. IT'S NOT LIKE TAKING EXTRA BAGS OF CANDY BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO
EAT THEM AND THEY'RE FUN. PEOPLE WHO TAKE MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS
TAKE THEM BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM, AND -- NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I
DO NOT HEAR ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT TOILET PAPER, WHICH EVERYONE EXPECTS
TO BE STOCKED IN EVERY BATHROOM, THEY -- THEY GO TO. IT'S THE SAME HERE
FOR THESE PRODUCTS, WHICH ARE NECESSARY. AND WE CAN'T LET DOWN YOUNG
MENSTRUATORS BECAUSE THEY GO TO A CHARTER SCHOOL. THEY NEED TO EXPECT
THE SAME THING AS THEIR PUBLIC SCHOOL COUNTERPARTS WHEN IT COMES TO
BIOLOGY AND DISRUPTING EDUCATION IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE NURSE, GO
ELSEWHERE TO OBTAIN WHAT THEY NEED.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. SO, MS. SPONSOR, YOU DON'T
HAVE ANY PROBLEM, THEN, IF THE PRODUCTS ARE STOLEN AND ARE ACTUALLY
USED ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO THERE BEING AN EMERGENCY
SITUATION AT THE SCHOOL AND IT'S NEEDED, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM
WITH THE PRODUCTS BEING STOLEN AND USED OUTSIDE SCHOOL?
MS. ROSENTHAL: AS I SAID BEFORE, ANYBODY WHO
STEALS MENSTRUAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS, IT'S BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM. THEY
MIGHT BE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR SOME STUDENTS AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT
EVERY -- EVERY YOUNG ADULT HAS ACCESS TO THESE PRODUCTS IF THEY NEED
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THEM. PEOPLE ARE NOT STEALING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE PLAYING GAMES
WITH THEM. THEY'RE -- AND I DON'T THINK IT'S STEALING, THEY'RE OFFERED FOR
USE.
MS. BYRNES: SO, OUR -- OUR SCHOOLS WOULD BE
OBLIGATED TO SUPPLY SOMETHING TO THE ENTIRE POPULATION ON A CONTINUOUS
BASIS, IRRESPECTIVE OF COST?
MS. ROSENTHAL: UM, NO --
MS. BYRNES: YES OR NO?
MS. ROSENTHAL: MAY -- MAY I REMIND YOU, WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR HALF THE POPULATION AT ANY
TIME DURING THE MONTH THAT WE HAVE GIVEN TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS. I
DARE SAY MOST OF THE -- ALL OF THE FEMALE ASSEMBLYMEMBERS IN THIS
ROOM HAVE EXPERIENCED MENSTRUATION AND KNOWING THAT YOU NEED
PRODUCTS OR THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME BAD RESULTS.
MS. BYRNES: BUT THE ISSUE IS, DO WE NEED TO
SUPPLY THEM TO EVERY FEMALE STUDENT ON A CONSTANT BASIS, ALL THE TIME,
AT STATE EXPENSE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WE --
MS. BYRNES: THEY NEVER HAVE TO GO TO A GROCERY
STORE, THEY JUST ALWAYS GET WHAT THEY WANT FOR FREE FROM OUR SCHOOLS AT
TAXPAYER EXPENSE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: WE --
MS. BYRNES: OR SCHOOL EXPENSE?
MS. ROSENTHAL: AT SCHOOL EXPENSE, BECAUSE IT'S
A BIOLOGICAL NECESSITY. I ALSO THINK THAT YOU'RE OVERSTATING THE THEFT
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ARGUMENT BECAUSE PEOPLE TAKE PRODUCTS IF THEY NEED TO USE THEM, BUT
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO TAKE PRODUCTS IS TO USE THEM IN SCHOOL
WHILE THEY'RE ON SCHOOL GROUNDS.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. I CAN JUST TELL YOU, MA'AM,
THAT MORE THAN ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TOLD ME THAT EVERY TIME THEY PUT
PRODUCTS OUT, THEY ARE GONE --
MS. ROSENTHAL: BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO USE
THEM.
MS. BYRNES: -- AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP REPLENISHING
THEM AND THAT IT'S A --
MS. ROSENTHAL: BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T
THINK THERE'S A SECONDARY MARKET FOR THEM. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FIND
THEM, YOU KNOW, EBAY, WHATEVER. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY NEED THEM.
THEY NEED TO USE THEM. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FAIRNESS OF MENSTRUAL
EQUITY OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF KIDS IN SCHOOLS.
MS. BYRNES: IN OTHER WORDS, THOUGH, THE SCHOOLS
WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, NOT INDIVIDUALS, FOR THEIR OWN HYGIENE PRODUCTS.
MS. ROSENTHAL: YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO GET
INTO POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY HERE. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE BILL. KIDS WHO ARE IN
SCHOOL GRADES 6-12, PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THEY'RE ALREADY AVAILABLE AT A
NO-COST BASIS, WE'RE JUST MAKING IT EQUAL IN CHARTER SCHOOLS.
MS. BYRNES: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'LL BE
HEARD LATER, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THERE ARE NO OTHER
SPEAKERS ON THE ISSUE.
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MS. BYRNES: OKAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: IF YOU WANT TO
PROCEED, YOU MAY.
MS. BYRNES: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GEE, I DON'T
KNOW WHY THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS BILL...
BUT, IN ANY EVENT, YOU KNOW, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IT HAS
BEEN RAISED TO ME BY A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT THIS
HAS BECOME A BURDEN ON THEM, AND THAT IT IS AN EXPENSE THAT THEY DON'T
FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD BE BEARING. NOW, I SEE NO REASON IF IT'S ALREADY
BECOME AN ISSUE THAT WE SHOULD PERPETUATE IT BY GOING FARTHER AND
LEGALLY REQUIRING CHARTER SCHOOLS TO DO IT, AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1ST,
2019.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MS. CRUZ TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.
MS. CRUZ: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I HAD THE
PRIVILEGE OF WORKING FOR COUNCIL MEMBER JULISSA FERRERAS-COPELAND IN
THE CITY OF NEW YORK WHEN WE MADE THIS A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY
PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE CITY. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ARGUMENTS THAT
WE WOULD HEAR FROM SCHOOLS WERE ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN, GENERALLY
WOMEN OF COLOR, GENERALLY POOR STUDENTS, WHO WOULD END UP MISSING
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CLASS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MENSTRUAL EQUITY. LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS IN CHARTER SCHOOLS,
MANY OF THEM WHO HAPPEN TO ALSO BE POOR STUDENTS, YOUNG WOMEN OF
COLOR, CAN HAVE THE SAME ACCESS THAT THE REST OF THE STUDENTS ALREADY
HAVE. I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. CRUZ IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, WILL YOU
CALL ON MR. OTIS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. OTIS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF A [SIC] ANNOUNCEMENT.
MR. OTIS: THERE WILL BE AN IMMEDIATE MEETING OF
THE DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE UPON THE
CONCLUSION OF SESSION. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: DEMOCRATIC
CONFERENCE UPON CONCLUSION OF SESSION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU
HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ALWAYS FINE
RESOLUTIONS, WE'LL TAKE THEM UP IN ONE VOTE. ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL
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THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTIONS ARE
ADOPTED.
(WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 121-128
WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE
THAT THE ASSEMBLY ADJOURNED UNTIL 10:30 A.M., THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE
28TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS
ADJOURNED.
(WHEREUPON, AT 3:23 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD
ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH AT 10:30 A.M., THURSDAY
BEING A SESSION DAY.)
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