TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2020 3:29 P.M.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: THE HOUSE WILL COME
TO ORDER.
IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF
SILENCE.
(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)
VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE.
(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER RYAN LED MEMBERS AND
VISITORS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)
A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE
JOURNAL OF MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE
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THAT WE DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF MONDAY,
FEBRUARY THE 3RD AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: WITH OBJECTION, SO
ORDERED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU. I WANT TO
PROVIDE FOR OUR QUOTE OF THE DAY FOR OUR COLLEAGUES AND GUESTS THAT ARE
IN THE CHAMBERS. IT IS FROM NONE OTHER THAN ROSA PARKS, WHOSE
BIRTHDAY IT IS TODAY. MS. PARKS, AS YOU KNOW, IS AN AMERICAN ACTIVIST
IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, AND SHE'S BEST KNOWN FOR HER PIVOTAL
ROLE IN THE MONTGOMERY BUS BOYCOTT. THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS HAS
CALLED HER "THE FIRST LADY OF CIVIL RIGHTS" AND "THE MOTHER OF THE
FREEDOM MOVEMENT." WE ARE -- THE QUOTE FROM MS. PARKS TODAY, MR.
SPEAKER, COMES IN THREE PARTS. ONE OF THEM IS, "EACH PERSON MUST LIVE
THEIR LIFE AS A MODEL FOR OTHERS." THE SECOND ONE IS, "YOU MUST NEVER
BE FEARFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IF IT'S RIGHT." AND THE THIRD ONE, "I
WOULD LIKE TO BE REMEMBERED AS A PERSON WHO WANTED TO BE FREE... SO
OTHER PEOPLE COULD BE [SIC] FREE."
WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, MEMBERS SHOULD BE AWARE
THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A MAIN CALENDAR, THAT THERE WILL BE A
NEED FOR A WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE MEETING, AND WE SHOULD BE
CALLING THAT AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE IN A FEW MINUTES HERE. THERE WILL
ALSO BE A NEED FOR A RULES COMMITTEE. THESE COMMITTEES WILL
PRODUCE A [SIC] A-CALENDAR, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP TODAY.
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AND AFTER THERE ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR HOUSEKEEPING, WE WILL
CONSENT FROM THE MAIN CALENDAR WHERE WE LEFT OFF YESTERDAY. MR.
SPEAKER, WE LEFT OFF ON CALENDAR NO. 380 ON PAGE 59; WE WILL BE
STARTING THERE TODAY. AND WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE OUR CONSENT FROM THE
MAIN CALENDAR, BEGINNING WITH CALENDAR NO. 240, WHICH IS ON PAGE
42. THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR A MINORITY [SIC] CONFERENCE AT THE
CONCLUSION OF OUR WORK TODAY AND, AS ALWAYS, WE WILL CONSULT WITH OUR
COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
THAT IS A GENERAL OUTLINE, MR. SPEAKER. IF THERE ARE
ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: THANK YOU MADAM
MAJORITY LEADER. WE HAVE NO HOUSEKEEPINGS [SIC], BUT WE DO HAVE
INTRODUCTIONS. ON BEHALF OF MS. WEINSTEIN -- I'M SORRY, CALL ON MS.
WEINSTEIN.
MS. WEINSTEIN: YES, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'M
EXTRAORDINARILY PLEASED TO INTRODUCE -- TO INTRODUCE ANTONY PHILLIPSON,
HER MAJESTY'S TRADE COMMISSIONER FOR NORTH AMERICA AND THE U.K.'S
CONSUL GENERAL IN NEW YORK. ANTONY IS IN ALBANY FOR TWO DAYS OF
MEETINGS WITH CAPITAL REGION BUSINESSES THAT HAVE OR WISH TO HAVE A
TRADING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U.K., BRITISH COMPANIES WITH A PRESENCE
IN THE CAPITAL REGION, AND BUSINESSES INTERESTED IN FREE TRADE
AGREEMENTS. HE HAS ALSO BEEN MEETING WITH NEW YORK STATE
GOVERNMENT LEADERS. ACCOMPANYING MR. PHILLIPSON TODAY ARE PAUL
SCHIPUL, VICE CONSUL FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS, AND BEN BRIERLEY, CONSUL
SENIOR TRADE POLICY ADVISORS FOR NEW YORK AND BOSTON. WE ARE
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EXTREMELY PLEASED TO HAVE THESE GENTLEMEN JOINING US IN SESSION
TODAY. WE ADOPTED A RESOLUTION AT THE CLOSE OF YESTERDAY'S SESSION
RECOGNIZING THEIR VISIT TO THE CAPITAL REGION, WHICH I WILL BE
PRESENTING TO THEM LATER TODAY. MR. SPEAKER, PLEASE GIVE THEM THE
COURTESY AND CORDIALITY OF THE HOUSE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: ON BEHALF OF MS.
WEINSTEIN, THE SPEAKER AND ALL OTHER MEMBERS, WE WELCOME OUR
DISTINGUISHED GUESTS FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM TO THE CHAMBER, EXTEND
THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK
YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. JONES FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MR. JONES: MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MEMBERS OF THE OLDER ADULTS TECHNOLOGY
SERVICES PROGRAM. THOSE HERE TODAY IN THE ASSEMBLY CHAMBER
REPRESENT THE 550 MEMBERS OF THE OLDER ADULTS TECHNOLOGY SERVICES
SENIOR PLANET EXPLORATION CENTER IN PLATTSBURGH. SINCE ITS OPENING IN
NOVEMBER 2015, OATS HAS HOSTED FIVE- AND TEN-WEEK DIGITAL
TECHNOLOGY COURSES, AND ALL OF SENIOR PLANETS COURSES AND EVENTS ARE
FREE. SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN NEW YORK CITY IN 2004, OATS HAS TAUGHT
COMPUTER CLASSES TO THOUSANDS OF NEW YORK CITY SENIORS, AND IN 2013
OPENED THE SENIOR PLANET EXPLORATION CENTER IN THE CHELSEA
NEIGHBORHOOD IN ASSEMBLYMAN GOTTFRIED'S DISTRICT, WHICH BECAME THE
FIRST SENIOR CENTER IN THE COUNTRY DEDICATED TO TECHNOLOGY. MY
CONSTITUENTS ARE HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT THE WORK OATS IS DOING IN THE
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115TH ASSEMBLY DISTRICT TO CONNECT SENIORS LIVING IN RURAL AREAS TO
OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE WORLD THROUGH THE USE OF
TECHNOLOGY.
MR. SPEAKER, I ASK THAT YOU EXTEND ALL THE CORDIALITIES
OF THE CHAMBER TO THE OLDER ADULTS TECHNOLOGY SERVICES MEMBERSHIP,
AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEM.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: ON BEHALF OF MR.
JONES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME OUR
DISTINGUISHED GUESTS FROM THE PLATTSBURGH AREA TO THE CHAMBERS TODAY,
AND WE EXTEND TO THEM THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND HOPE THAT YOU
ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. MORINELLO FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MR. MORINELLO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'M
PLEASED TO INTRODUCE MICHAEL LEE, MARCO SANTIAGO, DAVID KOK, JR.,
JOHN MARCYAN, JR., SHAUN BIELEC, MICHAEL CORCORAN, SCOTT BAX AND
DAVID KOK, SR. THESE ARE MEMBERS OF THE NIAGARA FALLS, NEW YORK
POLICE DEPARTMENT. BEING A BORDER CITY, THEIR JOB IS COMPLICATED BY
MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHEN THEY ARE
PROTECTING THE CITIZENS OF NIAGARA FALLS AND THE VISITORS THERE, TOO.
THEY JOIN WITH THE STATE POLICE IN THE PARKS IN PROTECTING THE STATE
PARKS, WHICH ARE OWNED BY THE STATE. I AM PROUD TO BRING THEM TO
ALBANY AND HAVE THEM INTRODUCED ON THE FLOOR. MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
WOULD HONOR THEM WITH THE COURTESY AND CORDIALITY OF THE CHAMBER.
ACTING SPEAKER RYAN: ON BEHALF OF MR.
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MORINELLO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME MEMBERS OF
THE NIAGARA FALLS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE CHAMBERS. WE EXTEND THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, AND WE HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK
YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. LUPARDO FOR AN INTRODUCTION.
MS. LUPARDO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER. COLLEAGUES, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THE FUTURE FARMERS
OF AMERICA WERE HERE TODAY. THEY WERE DOWN ON THE CONCOURSE WITH
MANY OF THEIR DISPLAYS. WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THEY ARE HERE. WE ARE
JOINED IN THE CHAMBER BY THREE FAA MEMBERS, THEY'RE STANDING IN THE
BACK. WE HAVE TAYLOR ROLLINS FROM MADISON; PEYTON FONTAINE,
PIONEER, AND BRANDON PHELPS FROM LOWVILLE. THE FUTURE FARMERS
CLUBS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY STARTED BACK IN THE 1920'S WITH A HANDFUL
OF MEMBERS, AND NOW HAS GROWN TO MORE THAN 610,000 MEMBERS IN
MORE THAN 6,600 CHAPTERS -- 7,600 CHAPTERS IN ALL 50 STATES, AS WELL AS
PUERTO RICO AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, AND WE HOPE TO SEE MORE CHAPTERS
DOWN IN NEW YORK CITY THIS YEAR. SO IF YOU WOULD WISH THEM A
WELCOME, I'M VERY GRATEFUL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. LUPARDO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU
HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF
THE FLOOR, OUR THANKS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE FILLED THE
-- THE CAPITOL TODAY. WE ARE ALL HAPPY THAT YOU'VE COME. WE WISH
YOU SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE, AND WE ARE MINDFUL THAT AGRICULTURE IS ONE OF
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THE LARGEST INDUSTRIES HERE IN THIS STATE AND ESSENTIAL BECAUSE WE FEED
THE WORLD. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. CONTINUE YOUR GREAT WORK.
(APPLAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE TO
THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM? CHAIRWOMAN WEINSTEIN HAS ALREADY
MADE HER WAY THERE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WAYS AND MEANS,
SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM. MEMBERS, PLEASE GO IMMEDIATELY. IF
YOU ARE WITHIN THE SOUND OF OUR VOICE, PLEASE COME TO THE SPEAKER'S
CONFERENCE ROOM AND TO CHAMBER. THANK YOU.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE CAN
CONTINUE OUR WORK NOW ON PAGE 3 WITH RESOLUTIONS, AND THEN WE'RE
GOING TO GO ON TO PAGE 59 AND START WITH CALENDAR NO. 380.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 740, MS.
LUPARDO. LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR ANDREW M.
CUOMO TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 22-29, 2020, AS FFA WEEK IN THE STATE
OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
(PAUSE)
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ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: MR. FRIEND FOR AN
INTRODUCTION.
MR. FRIEND: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING
ME TO INTERRUPT OUR PROCEEDINGS. ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMAN
PALMESANO, ASSEMBLYMAN GIGLIO, ASSEMBLYWOMAN BYRNES AND
MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME TO THE CHAMBER MEMBERS OF REALITY
CHECK: AMBER UPDIKE, ARIANNA HASKINS, SHANE LEHMAN, WALLY
LONGWELL, SAMANTHA WHITE AND MICHELLE LARIMORE, WHO ARE BOTH THE
COORDINATORS FOR THE GROUP. THEY'VE BEEN UP HERE TODAY AND YESTERDAY
ADVOCATING FOR DECREASING YOUTH ACCESS TO CIGARETTES AND TOBACCO
PRODUCTS, AND THE DECEPTIVE PRACTICES THAT ARE PROMOTED WITHIN THE
STORES, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ASPECTS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN OUR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS WHEN KIDS ARE TRYING TO SUBVERT THE POLICIES IN THE SCHOOL
SYSTEM IN ORDER TO CONTINUE VAPING OR SMOKING. IT'S BEEN A REAL
LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND I JUST WANT TO WELCOME THEM TO THE
CHAMBER AND THANK THEM FOR TRAVELING TO ALBANY.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: ABSOLUTELY. ON
BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER FRIEND, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS,
WE WELCOME YOU TO THE CHAMBER AND EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR
AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
JOINING US.
(APPLAUSE)
CONSENT BEGINNING WITH CALENDAR NO. 380, THE CLERK
WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09060, CALENDAR NO.
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380, WRIGHT, BLAKE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION
TO SIGNIFICANT PROGRAMMATIC ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR LIMITED CREDIT TIME
ALLOWANCES FOR CERTAIN INMATES.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. COLLEAGUES THAT ARE IN AND AROUND THE CHAMBERS, IF YOU CAN
COME IN AND CAST YOUR FIRST VOTE OF TODAY. IT'S THE FIRST VOTE ON THE
SECOND DAY OF THE FIFTH WEEK OF THE 243RD LEGISLATIVE SESSION OF THE
NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY,
MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
A PIECE OF HOUSEKEEPING.
ON A MOTION BY MS. WALKER, PAGE 56, CALENDAR NO.
322, BILL NO. A08280-B IS RESTORED TO ITS PREVIOUS PRINT.
(PAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU
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PLEASE CALL A RULES COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM?
RULES COMMITTEE.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: THE RULES
COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.
AND THE CLERK WILL CONTINUE WITH CALENDAR NO. 381.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09061, CALENDAR NO.
381, WEPRIN, BLAKE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION
TO THE DETENTION OF INDIVIDUALS IN A COUNTY JAIL PENDING A FIRST COURT
APPEARANCE IN AN OFF-HOURS ARRAIGNMENT PART.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09062, CALENDAR NO.
382, WEPRIN, BLAKE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION
TO REQUIRING A REPORT ON THE DEATH AND CIRCUMSTANCES OF AN INMATE TO BE
SENT TO CERTAIN RECIPIENTS.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: ON A -- LAID ASIDE.
OH, I GOTTA SAY IT FIRST.
ON A MOTION BY MR. WEPRIN, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE
THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED. LAID ASIDE -- AND THE BILL IS
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LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09127, CALENDAR NO.
383, CRESPO. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HOUSING LAW, IN RELATION TO
REQUIRING A CONSPICUOUS MEMORANDUM REGARDING THE DISRUPTION OF VITAL
SERVICES.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: ON A MOTION BY MR.
CRESPO, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS
ADVANCED. READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER BURKE: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ARE THERE -- SHH,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MR. GOODELL FOR THE PURPOSES OF A [SIC] INTRODUCTION.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. ON
BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMAN BYRNE AND ASSEMBLYMAN BRABENEC, IT IS MY
PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE TWO DISTINGUISHED GUESTS, ALEX CARUSO AND
GASPARE COSTANZO. THEY ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DAIRY AND CHEESE
INDUSTRY AND BRAND AMBASSADORS FOR THE ITALIAN-AMERICAN CHEESE
PRODUCERS. MANY PRODUCTS ARE MADE RIGHT HERE IN NEW YORK STATE, SO
FOR ALL THE CHEESE LOVERS, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THEM HERE. IF YOU'LL
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EXTEND THE GREETINGS ON BEHALF OF OUR CHAMBER AND EXTEND TO THEM THE
PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF ASSEMBLYMEMBERS BYRNES [SIC] AND BRABENEC, WE WELCOME YOU TO
THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE
FLOOR. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, AND ALSO JOINED BY THE SPEAKER AND ALL
THE MEMBERS, WE WISH YOU WELL. HOPE YOUR TRIP TO ALBANY HAS BEEN
BENEFICIAL, AND PLEASE COME BACK AND VISIT US SOON. THANK YOU SO
VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09128, CALENDAR NO.
384, LAVINE, BLAKE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO
THE TIMING OF THE ANNUAL CHECK OF REGISTRANTS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE
REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.
LAVINE, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS
ADVANCED. READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU
ADVANCE THE A-CALENDAR SO THAT WE MIGHT TAKE IT UP IMMEDIATELY?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON MRS.
PEOPLES-STOKES' MOTION, THE A-CALENDAR IS ADVANCED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE CAN
GO TO PAGE 3, BEGINNING WITH RULES REPORT NO. 10, FOLLOWED BY NO. 11
IN THAT ORDER, MR. RYAN, ON DEBATE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.
SHH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09136, RULES REPORT
NO. 10, RYAN, COLTON. AN ACT TO AMEND THE LABOR LAW, IN RELATION TO
INCREASING THE LENGTH OF THE SUSPENSION PERIOD APPLICABLE TO CERTAIN
STRIKING WORKERS WHO SEEK TO OBTAIN UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BENEFITS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION IS --
OH, HOLD ON ONE MINUTE. ON A MOTION BY MR. RYAN, THE SENATE BILL IS
BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED.
MR. RYAN, AN EXPLANATION IS REQUESTED.
MEMBERS, WE ARE ON DEBATE. PLEASE HOLD DOWN YOUR
CONVERSATIONS, EVEN IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER.
MR. RYAN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS BILL
WOULD ADJUST THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WORKERS ON STRIKE MUST WAIT
BEFORE FILING A CLAIM FOR UNINSURANCE [SIC] BENEFITS, AND IT WILL BE
CONSISTENT WITH NON-UNION STRIKING CLAIMANTS. CURRENTLY IN LAW,
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WORKERS OF NEW YORK STATE ARE PERMITTED TO RECEIVE UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS FOR STRIKING AFTER THEY'VE WAITED FOR SEVEN WEEKS. THIS LAW
WOULD CHANGE IT FROM A SEVEN-WEEK PERIOD OF DELAY TO A TWO-WEEK
PERIOD OF DELAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD
THE SPONSOR YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WILL YOU YIELD, MR.
RYAN?
MR. RYAN: CERTAINLY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. RYAN YIELDS.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RYAN.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE REASON THAT CURRENT LAW EXISTS WITH A
SEVEN-WEEK DELAY IS BECAUSE FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS, THE STATE HAS TAKEN A
POSITION THAT WE SHOULD NOT REQUIRE EMPLOYERS TO FUND STRIKES. AND, OF
COURSE, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS ARE PAID BY A CHARGE TO THE EMPLOYER.
AND SO, THE STATE'S POLICY IS REFLECTED IN NUMEROUS CASES AND
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY IS THAT IF THERE'S A STRIKE, THE STATE SHOULD STAY OUT OF
IT AND NOT FORCE EMPLOYERS TO PAY OR -- OR PENALIZE EMPLOYEES. WHY
SHOULD WE CHANGE THAT POLICY THAT HAS SERVED NEW YORK STATE FOR EIGHT
DECADES?
MR. RYAN: WELL, CERTAINLY THAT'S AN INTERESTING
QUESTION, AND THIS DOES REFLECT A POLICY CHANGE, BUT IT'S NOT SO CUT AND
DRY. WHILE WORKERS HAD TO WAIT SEVEN WEEKS, OTHERS STATES DON'T ALLOW
ANY BENEFIT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ON STRIKE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
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AND EACH STATE APPROACHES THIS DIFFERENTLY. AND WHILE NEW YORK
STATE DID HAVE THAT SEVEN WEEK RULE THAT WE HOPE TO CHANGE TODAY, YOU
MUST REMEMBER THAT DURING THIS TIME, IF YOU WERE LOCKED OUT OF YOUR
JOB, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO COLLECT UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS OR, IN FACT, IF
YOU WERE REPLACED DURING A STRIKE, YOU COULD THEN COLLECT
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
SO WHILE FOR THE BULK OF THE CLAIMS YOU HAD TO WAIT
AFTER SEVEN WEEKS, THERE WERE SEVERAL INSTANCES OF LESS THAN SEVEN
WEEKS, AND THAT BASICALLY REFLECTS THE CONCEPT IS -- THE FREEDOM TO FORM
A UNION AND STRIKE IS GIVEN TO US UNDER THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. SO THE
U.S. CONSTITUTION GIVES YOU THE RIGHT, THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND
FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION. SO, STATES HAVE GRAPPLED WITH THIS IDEA OF YOU
HAVE TO PAY A FEE, ESSENTIALLY, TO ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS.
SO, YOU PAY INTO THE UNEMPLOYMENT FUND AS A WORKER
AND YOU GO TO A WORK STOPPAGE, BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RETRIEVE YOUR
MONEY OUT OF THE FUND FOR SEVEN WEEKS. NO ONE KNOWS WHY WE DID
SEVEN WEEKS, BUT NEW JERSEY RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR RULES FROM A VERY
LONG WAITING PERIOD TO A THREE-WEEK WAITING PERIOD. SO, IN SOME WAYS
WE'LL BE COMING INTO LINE WITH NEW JERSEY. BUT JUST TO MAKE NO
MISTAKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WORKERS STARVED FROM THE BARGAINING
TABLE BACK TO THE WORKPLACE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO EXERCISE
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS NOT UNDER ECONOMIC PENALTY.
MR. GOODELL: WELL, YOU BROUGHT UP AN
INTERESTING POINT, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON EXISTING LAW.
THE EXISTING LAW DOESN'T IMPOSE AN AUTOMATIC SEVEN WEEK REGARDLESS
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OF WHAT HAPPENS. IF THE EMPLOYER ENGAGES IN A LOCKOUT, THEN
EMPLOYEES UNDER CURRENT LAW CAN IMMEDIATELY COLLECT, RIGHT?
MR. RYAN: THAT'S CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: AND IF THE EMPLOYER REPLACES A
STRIKING WORKER WITH A PERMANENT WORKER, THEN THE WORKER CAN
IMMEDIATELY COLLECT, CORRECT?
MR. RYAN: THAT IS CORRECT, MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: SO THE CURRENT LAW REFLECTS THE
BACK AND FORTH PLAY IF IT'S AN EMPLOYER-INITIATED LOCKOUT OR THE
EMPLOYERS REPLACING AN EMPLOYEE, THE EMPLOYEES ARE ENTITLED TO
IMMEDIATE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS WHICH ARE PAID FOR, OF COURSE, BY
THE EMPLOYER IN CONTRIBUTIONS. ON THE OTHER HAND, UNDER CURRENT LAW,
IF IT'S THE EMPLOYEES THAT INITIATE THE WALKOUT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OR
WITHOUT A LOCKOUT OR ANYTHING, BUT IF THE EMPLOYEES INITIATE IT, THEN THE
EMPLOYEES WAIT. YOUR -- THIS PROPOSED BILL WOULD CHANGE IT SO THAT IF
AN EMPLOYER INITIATES IT, THEY GET PAID IMMEDIATELY, AND IF THE
EMPLOYEES INITIATE IT, THEY'LL NOW BE PAID MUCH QUICKER, CORRECT?
MR. RYAN: THAT'S CORRECT. SO EACH OF THESE IS A
POLICY -- POLICY DECISION WE MADE. SO, PROVIDING STRIKE PAY TO PEOPLE
LOCKED OUT OR PERMANENTLY REPLACED IS A POLICY DECISION. ALL STATES DO
IT DIFFERENTLY. SOME STATES DO NOT PROVIDE UNEMPLOYMENT UNDER THOSE
SITUATIONS. AND, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU MENTIONED THE EMPLOYER IS
PAYING FOR UNEMPLOYMENT, BUT THE EMPLOYEES PAY INTO THE FUND, ALSO.
MR. GOODELL: WHICH IS WHY THEY COLLECT
IMMEDIATELY IF THEY'RE LOCKED OUT OR IF THEY'RE REPLACED, AND THEY DO
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COLLECT UNDER CURRENT LAW AFTER SEVEN WEEKS, CORRECT?
MR. RYAN: THAT'S CORRECT, YUP.
MR. GOODELL: NOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT DIFFERENT
STATES DO IT DIFFERENTLY. HOW MANY STATES AUTHORIZE UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS FOR STRIKING WORKERS?
MR. RYAN: FOUR.
MR. GOODELL: AND NEW YORK IS ONE OF THE FOUR
NOW.
MR. RYAN: NEW YORK IS ONE OF THE FOUR, THAT'S
CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: AND SO THE OTHER 46 THAT ARE
COMPETING WITH US FOR BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRY, THEY DON'T PROVIDE
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS LIKE WE DO ALREADY?
MR. RYAN: THAT'S CORRECT, YUP. YOU NEED IT FOR
LOCKOUTS, FOR REPLACEMENTS OR ANY -- ANY WORK STOPPAGE.
MR. GOODELL: SO, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PROGRAM
THAT IN NEW YORK IS ALREADY MORE GENEROUS THAN 46 STATES AND MAKE IT
EVEN MORE GENEROUS?
MR. RYAN: THAT'S RIGHT. THE REASON WE BECOME A
HIGH WAGE STATE IN NEW YORK IS BECAUSE WE ALLOW WORKERS TO
NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR EMPLOYERS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE
DECAYING WAGES PAID TO AMERICAN WORKERS IN THE LAST 30 YEARS,
CERTAINLY THE LEVEL OF PAY HAS NOT KEPT UP WITH PRODUCTIVITY INCREASES,
BUT DURING THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME, THERE WAS A DECREASE IN
UNIONIZATION, BUT ALSO A -- A DECREASE IN STRIKES. SO, IT BECAME HARDER
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AND HARDER FOR AN AVERAGE AMERICAN WHOSE WAGES AND REAL DOLLARS IS
DECREASING TO EXERCISE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A STRIKE.
SO, THAT'S THE PICKLE THAT WE'RE -- WE'RE TRYING TO GET
OUT OF IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT POLICY. AND OTHER STATES
HAVE WRESTLED WITH THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OLD, OLD
CASE LAW OUT OF MASSACHUSETTS SAYING PEOPLE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO
STRIKE PAY BECAUSE WHAT IF ONLY 51 PERCENT VOTED TO GO ON STRIKE?
WELL, THE OTHER 49 PERCENT CAN'T GO TO WORK EITHER. OR, RECENTLY, THERE
WAS WORK STOPPAGES IN WESTERN NEW YORK THIS SUMMER WHERE IT
AFFECTED NOT ONLY THOSE UNIONIZED EMPLOYEES, BUT OTHER PEOPLE AT THAT
FACILITY BECAUSE THE WHOLE FACILITY SHUTS DOWN.
BUT YOU HAVE TO ALSO KEEP THIS IN MIND IN TERMS OF IF
YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS BILL ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO GO ON
STRIKE, MAKE NO MISTAKE, AN EMPLOYEE WHO GOES ON STRIKE WILL NEVER
RECOVER THE ECONOMIC LOSS. SO, THE RECENT WORK STOPPAGE WE'RE
PROBABLY MOST FAMILIAR WITH THIS SUMMER, THE UNITED AUTO WORKERS,
THEY GOT $250 STRIKE PAY. AND THE CAP FOR UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE IN
NEW YORK STATE IS ONLY $450. SO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOSING A LOT OF
MONEY WHETHER YOU GO ON STRIKE AND GET UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS OR IF
YOU DON'T.
SO, WORK STOPPAGES IN NEW YORK STATE ARE WAY DOWN.
STRIKES ARE -- ARE WAY DOWN. IT'S NOT THE PREFERRED WAY TO BARGAIN A
CONTRACT ANYMORE, BUT WHEN IT DOES COME TO THIS IMPASSE POINT AND A
STRIKE DOES OCCUR, WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF STARVING EMPLOYEES BACK
TO THE BARGAINING TABLE AND MAKING THEM TAKE A CONTRACT ONLY BECAUSE
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THEY NEED TO PUT BREAD ON THE TABLE FOR NEXT WEEK'S GROCERIES.
MR. GOODELL: OF COURSE DURING A TIME PERIOD OF A
STRIKE, AN EMPLOYER IS ALSO LIKELY LOSING MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT
HAVING ANY PRODUCTION AND, IN FACT, THE STRIKE THAT AFFECTED GM
RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF REPORTED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND
SO, IT'S A TWO-WAY STRAIGHT -- STREET.
MR. RYAN: IT DID, IN FACT, RESULT IN THE LOSS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT, REST ASSURED, THAT GENERAL MOTORS STILL CLOSED
OUT THE YEAR WITH MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR PROFITS.
MR. GOODELL: AND OBVIOUSLY FOR MANY, MANY
REASONS, SOME... BUT TOUCHING BASE A LITTLE BIT ON WHO CAN QUALIFY AND
WHO CAN'T.
MR. RYAN: SURE.
MR. GOODELL: IF AN INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE DECIDES
TO QUIT WITHOUT GOOD CAUSE, THEY JUST START WORKING THERE, THEY WANT TO
WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY'RE NOT ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS,
CORRECT?
MR. RYAN: THAT'S CORRECT.
MR. GOODELL: AND SO, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IF YOU
QUIT ON YOUR OWN, YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, BUT IF
YOU'RE PART OF A UNION AND YOU GO ON STRIKE, YOU WOULD BE ENTITLED TO
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AFTER -- UNDER THIS BILL AFTER A FEW WEEKS?
MR. RYAN: YES. IF YOU'RE -- AS OPPOSED TO QUITTING,
IF YOU'RE PART OF THE CONCERTED ACTION THAT'S PART OF A STRIKE, THEN YOU
WILL BE ABLE TO COLLECT UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, AS YOU CURRENTLY ARE IN
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NEW YORK STATE AFTER SEVEN WEEKS.
MR. GOODELL: NOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT, OF
COURSE, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS IMMEDIATELY IF IT'S A
LOCKOUT OR IF -- OR IF THERE'S A REPLACEMENT, BUT YOU'RE ALSO ENTITLED TO
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS IMMEDIATELY, RIGHT, IF YOU LOSE YOUR JOB
BECAUSE SOME OTHER UNIT IS STRIKING? IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT YOUR UNIT
THAT'S STRIKING, BUT THAT AFFECTS YOU; YOU'RE STILL ENTITLED TO BENEFITS
IMMEDIATELY, CORRECT?
MR. RYAN: YOU ARE. WHEN YOU SAY "IMMEDIATELY,"
JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT EVERY WORKER IN NEW YORK STATE HAS TO WAIT ONE
WEEK BEFORE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. SO, UNDER
YOUR SCENARIO, THEY'D STILL HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK AND THEN WOULD BE
ENTITLED.
MR. GOODELL: NOW I - IN MY DISTRICT, AND I'M SURE
THE SAME IS TRUE WITH YOUR DISTRICT - WE HAVE EMPLOYERS THAT HAVE
MULTIPLE PLANTS, SOME IN NEW YORK, SOME IN PENNSYLVANIA, NEW
JERSEY, CONNECTICUT. HOW'S ARE YOU OR I UNEMPLOYMENT COSTS COMPARE
IN NEW YORK COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORING STATES?
MR. RYAN: WELL, EVERY STATE HAS DIFFERENT
UNEMPLOYMENT COSTS BASED ON THE BENEFITS THAT THEIR POLICYMAKERS
CHOOSE TO PAY IN UNEMPLOYMENT.
MR. GOODELL: AND AM I CORRECT, THOUGH, THAT
NEW YORK'S ARE AMONGST THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION?
MR. RYAN: I HAVEN'T COMPARED NEW YORK'S TO ANY
-- ANY OTHER STATES, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT IS A CAP OF $450 A WEEK THAT --
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IF THAT COMES OUT TO A [SIC] HOURLY WAGE IS A PRETTY LOW HOURLY WAGE.
MR. GOODELL: MR. RYAN, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND YOUR
UNDERSTANDING OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS BILL.
MR. RYAN: THANK YOU.
MR. GOODELL: ON THE BILL, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, SIR.
MR. GOODELL: SO, FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS WE'VE HAD
A BALANCE IN NEW YORK WHERE WE TRIED TO BALANCE THE RIGHTS OF
EMPLOYERS WHO PAY INTO THE UNEMPLOYMENT SYSTEM AND THE RIGHTS OF
EMPLOYEES WHO MAY BE ON STRIKE. AND WHAT WE'VE SAID IN NEW YORK
FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS IS IF THE EMPLOYER LOCKS YOU OUT SO YOU CANNOT GO
TO WORK, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS WITHOUT ANY
ADDITIONAL DELAY. OR, IF YOU GO ON STRIKE AND THE EMPLOYER REPLACES
YOU PERMANENTLY, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS WITHOUT
ANY ADDITIONAL DELAY. OR, IF YOU'RE NOT WORKING BECAUSE SOME OTHER
UNIT WITH YOUR EMPLOYER IS ON STRIKE, YOU GET THAT UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS, AND THOSE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS ARE PAID BY THE EMPLOYER.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU QUIT AND YOU WALK OFF THE
JOB, YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. IF YOU QUIT EN
MASSE IN THE FORM OF A STRIKE, THEN WE'VE TRIED TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE
AND WE'VE SAID FOR SEVEN WEEKS YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS, BUT IF THE STRIKE GOES ON LONGER THAN THAT, YOU GET
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. AND IN THE MEANTIME, THE UNIONS THROUGHOUT
NEW YORK STATE AND NATIONALLY, KNOWING THAT THAT'S THE RULE IN NEW
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YORK, HAVE PUT ASIDE MONEY FOR A STRIKE FUND SO THAT IF THEIR EMPLOYEES
GO OUT, THEY HAVE PAYMENTS THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE UNION THAT
OFFSET THAT TEMPORARY LOSS OF BENEFITS.
CORNELL UNIVERSITY DID A STUDY ON THIS IN 1992, A FAIRLY
COMPREHENSIVE, THOUGHTFUL STUDY, AND BASED ON A CROSS-SECTION
ANALYSIS LOOKING AT NEW YORK AND MANY OTHER STATES THEY SAID THE
EVIDENCE IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR AND STRONG, THAT'S THEIR WORD, "AND STRONG,"
THAT THE SOONER YOU PROVIDE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, THE MORE STRIKES
OCCUR. AND, OF COURSE, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ALL OF US BECAUSE IF YOU'RE
PAYING PEOPLE WHILE THEY'RE OUT ON STRIKE, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE SO
THEY'RE LIKELY TO STRIKE SOONER. AND GRANTED, UNEMPLOYMENT DOESN'T
PAY YOUR FULL SALARY, BUT IT CERTAINLY MAKES IT EASIER TO GO ON STRIKE.
NOW ALL OF US, CERTAINLY ALL OF US IN UPSTATE, BUT
CERTAINLY EVEN IN THE CITY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE JOB MARKET. AND I
-- I WAS SHOCKED, AND I'M SURE MANY OF YOU WERE SHOCKED, TO DISCOVER,
ACCORDING TO OUR GOVERNOR, THAT ONE-THIRD OF THE RESIDENTS IN NEW
YORK STATE QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID. THINK ABOUT THAT, ONE-THIRD QUALIFY
FOR MEDICAID. THAT MEANS ONE-THIRD OF NEW YORKERS ARE SUFFERING
FROM POVERTY OR NEAR POVERTY. AND THE BEST WAY TO LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF
POVERTY IS WITH EMPLOYMENT. AND WE ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THE
HIGHEST EMPLOYMENT COSTS IN NEW YORK STATE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
HAVING TROUBLE COMPETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORING STATES.
SO THIS BILL, WHICH WILL RAISE COSTS ON EMPLOYERS,
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STRIKES AND REDUCE OUR COMPETITIVENESS
ULTIMATELY WILL COST US JOBS. I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT BALANCE UNDER
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CURRENT LAW WHERE WE PROTECT WORKERS IF THEY ARE LAID OFF THROUGH NO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN, WHILE NOT FORCING EMPLOYERS TO PAY EMPLOYEES
WHILE THEY STRIKE AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST SEVEN WEEKS. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE STAY WITH THE CURRENT LAW AND NOT
MAKE THIS CHANGE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR HIS THOUGHTFUL
ANSWERS. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. RYAN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. RYAN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AS WE KNOW, THE RIGHT TO STRIKE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT
UNDER THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. STRIKES ARE RARE IN NEW YORK
STATE. THEY ONLY HAPPEN AT THE END OF A BIG, BIG PERIOD OF CONFLICT.
BUT WE'RE DISCOVERING THAT THE ECONOMIC COST OF STRIKES ON THE
EMPLOYEES IS SO HIGH THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO EXERCISE THEIR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. SO, THE DAY YOU GO ON STRIKE, YOUR HEALTH
INSURANCE IS CANCELED, YOU HAVE TO PAY IN, YOU HAVE NO MORE INCOME
COMING IN. SO, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS INTRODUCE A NEW POLICY THAT
WILL ALLOW YOU TO EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS WITHOUT SUCH A TREMENDOUS
ECONOMIC COST. AND I HOPE THIS WILL HELP TO REBALANCE THE
EMPLOYEE/EMPLOYER RIGHTS IN NEW YORK STATE.
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AND I THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I ENCOURAGE ALL MY
COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I WITHDRAW MY
REQUEST AND I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. RYAN IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09646, RULES REPORT
NO. 11, MAGNARELLI, CRESPO, DE LA ROSA, JOYNER, PICHARDO, REYES. AN
ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION TO SEATBELTS IN A
TAXI OR LIVERY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
SHH.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
SPEAKER, TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I -- I WANTED TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR.
DURING THE DEBATE ON THE ORIGINAL BILL, CONCERN WAS RAISED THAT WE
TREATED PASSENGERS IN A LIMO DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON THEIR AGE. FOR
SOME, THE DRIVER WAS LIABLE IF THE PASSENGER WASN'T WEARING A SEAT BELT.
FOR OTHERS, IT WAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RIDER. THIS BILL CLARIFIES IT TO
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MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE RIDER TO PUT THEIR SEAT
BELT ON AND RIDE -- RIDE WITH THEIR SEAT BELT. MAKES A GREAT DEAL OF
SENSE FOR A LIMO WHERE THE DRIVER MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE
PASSENGERS. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR LISTENING TO THE
COMMENTS THAT WERE RAISED ON DEBATE AND ACTING QUICKLY TO CLARIFY THIS
BILL. I WILL BE VOTING YES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU
HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: FINE RESOLUTIONS, WE
WILL TAKE UP THEM UP WITH ONE VOTE.
ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.
(WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 741-745
WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, COULD YOU
PLEASE CALL ON MR. OTIS FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. OTIS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF A [SIC] ANNOUNCEMENT.
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MR. OTIS: THERE WILL BE AN IMMEDIATE MEETING OF
THE DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
IMMEDIATELY UPON THE CONCLUSION OF SESSION. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, MR. OTIS.
DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING SESSION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: I NOW MOVE THAT THE
ASSEMBLY STANDS ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE 6TH,
TOMORROW BEING A LEGISLATIVE DAY, AND THAT WE WILL RECONVENE AT 2 P.M.
FEBRUARY THE 10TH, MONDAY BEING A SESSION DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS
ADJOURNED.
(WHEREUPON, AT 4:48 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD
ADJOURNED UNTIL WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH AT 10:00 A.M., WEDNESDAY
BEING A SESSION DAY.)
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