THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2022                                                                   10:35 A.M.



                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF

                    ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 16TH.

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  MR. -- MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

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                    DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF WEDNESDAY,

                    FEBRUARY 16TH AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

                    ORDERED.

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  WELL, GOOD MORNING, MR. SPEAKER

                    AND ALL MY COLLEAGUES.  MEMBERS HAVE -- MAY I HAVE MEMBERS'

                    ATTENTION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND DISCUSS THE

                    SCHEDULE FOR THE DAY?  MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A MAIN CALENDAR.

                    AFTER ANY HOUSEKEEPING WE WILL TAKE UP THE RESOLUTION ON PAGE 3.  WE

                    WILL THEN CONTINUE ON CONSENT WHERE WE LEFT OFF, BEGINNING WITH

                    CALENDAR NO. 267 ON PAGE 38 THROUGH CALENDAR NO. 284.  WE WILL

                    THEN TAKE UP CALENDAR NO. 378 BY MS. LUNSFORD ON CONSENT.  AT THE

                    CONCLUSION OF OUR DAY WE WILL TAKE UP TWO RESOLUTIONS SEATING OUR

                    NEWEST MEMBERS; FROM THE 60TH ASSEMBLY DISTRICT, NIKKI LUCAS, AND

                    FROM THE 72ND ASSEMBLY DISTRICT, MANNY DE LOS SANTOS.  AT A LATER

                    DATE WE WILL -- WE WILL MORE FORMALLY INTRODUCE THEM, BUT WE WILL

                    WELCOME BOTH OF THESE NEW MEMBERS TO OUR WONDERFUL, BEAUTIFUL

                    CHAMBER.

                                 SO WITH THAT AS A GENERAL OUTLINE, MR. SPEAKER, IF

                    THERE IS ANY HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  NO HOUSEKEEPING,

                    BUT WE DO HAVE AN INTRODUCTION.  I BELIEVE MR. MANKTELOW FOR THE

                    PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  IT IS

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                    MY PRIVILEGE TODAY TO FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOUR YEARS TO HAVE MY WIFE

                    CRYSTAL UP HERE ON THE FLOOR WITH ME, AND I ASK, MR. SPEAKER, THAT YOU

                    EXTEND ALL THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE AND IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO HAVE

                    HER HERE WITH US TODAY.  AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF YOUR HUSBAND, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, MRS. MANKTELOW,

                    WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU

                    THE PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE, AND OUR DEEP CONDOLENCES BECAUSE WE LIVE

                    WITH HIM LIKE YOU DO.

                                 (LAUGHTER)

                                 THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.  WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  YOU'RE QUITE

                    WELCOME.

                                 ON PAGE 3, RESOLUTIONS, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. 572, MS. MCMAHON.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 21, 2022 AS MOTHER LANGUAGE

                    DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OBSERVANCE OF

                    INTERNATIONAL MOTHER LANGUAGE DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.

                                 PAGE 38, CALENDAR NO. 267.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07686, CALENDAR NO.

                    267, FRONTUS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE MENTAL HYGIENE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    PROVIDING CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM TRAINING, MENTAL HEALTH FIRST AID,

                    IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING AND NALOXONE TRAINING TO FIREFIGHTERS AND

                    EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PERSONNEL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7686.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBER PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07695, CALENDAR NO.

                    268, ENGLEBRIGHT.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO LAND USE PLAN PROVISIONS FOR SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH

                    RELATING TO THE RESOURCES OF THE CENTRAL PINE BARRENS AND TO THE

                    PROCESSING AND APPROVAL OF LAND USE APPLICATIONS FOR PROJECTS RELATING

                    TO THE CENTRAL PINE BARRENS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07696, CALENDAR NO.

                    269, BARRETT, CUSICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO PROHIBITING DEVELOPMENT OF BUILD-READY SITES ON VIABLE

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                    AGRICULTURAL LAND.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07704, CALENDAR NO.

                    270, FERNANDEZ.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    PROVIDING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PARITY (PART A); AND TO AMEND THE

                    INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR CERTAIN DRUGS FOR THE

                    DETOXIFICATION OR MAINTENANCE OF A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER (PART B).

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07705, CALENDAR NO.

                    271, WALKER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO ISSUANCE OF APPEARANCE TICKETS TO ADOLESCENT OFFENDERS

                    PENDING APPEARANCES BEFORE YOUTH PARTS OF SUPERIOR COURTS OF CRIMINAL

                    JURISDICTION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07710, CALENDAR NO.

                    272, ENGLEBRIGHT.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO THE REGULATION OF TAKING CRABS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7710.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

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                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07728-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 273, STERN, BRONSON, STIRPE, GRIFFIN, SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE EXCELSIOR LINKED

                    DEPOSIT PROGRAM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7728-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07737-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 274, WEINSTEIN, WALKER, ZINERMAN, SOLAGES, SEAWRIGHT, COLTON,

                    SIMON, ZEBROWSKI, PRETLOW, BURDICK, BRONSON, DAVILA, ENGLEBRIGHT,

                    DINOWITZ, GLICK, SAYEGH, ABINANTI, EICHENSTEIN, D. ROSENTHAL,

                    WEPRIN, GALLAGHER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY ACTIONS AND

                    PROCEEDINGS LAW AND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO

                    THE RIGHTS OF PARTIES INVOLVED IN FORECLOSURE ACTIONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07768-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 275, KELLES, THIELE, MAGNARELLI, CLARK, BARRETT, LUPARDO, COLTON,

                    PERRY, GOTTFRIED, L. ROSENTHAL, STECK, ABINANTI.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    PUBLIC SERVICE LAW, IN RELATION TO CERTIFICATE AND PERMIT CONDITIONS FOR

                    DORMANT POWER GENERATING FACILITIES THAT ARE IN LAYUP OR OUT OF SERVICE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07785, CALENDAR NO.

                    276, WOERNER, STIRPE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO BIG-GAME HUNTING SEASON.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07786, CALENDAR NO.

                    277, CAHILL.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO REQUIRING THE DEPARTMENT OF

                    FINANCIAL SERVICES, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TAX AND

                    FINANCE, TO CONDUCT A STUDY REGARDING INSURANCE OR OTHER RISK

                    MITIGATION TOOLS AND THIRD-PARTY PAYROLL SERVICE PROVIDERS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7786.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07797, CALENDAR NO.

                    279, RAJKUMAR.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE COURT -- THE COURT -- COURT OF

                    CLAIMS ACT, IN RELATION TO ALLOWING FOR DISMISSAL OF A CLAIM BASED ON

                    CLAIMANT'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH PLEADING REQUIREMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7797.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. PALMESANO.

                                 MR. PALMESANO:  YES, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    COULD YOU PLEASE RECORD OUR COLLEAGUE MR. NORRIS IN THE NEGATIVE ON

                    THIS BILL, PLEASE?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. NORRIS IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.  SO NOTED.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07926, CALENDAR NO.

                    280, L. ROSENTHAL, MEEKS, SIMON, EPSTEIN, ZINERMAN, GALEF,

                    FERNANDEZ, BURGOS, GOTTFRIED, STECK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PENAL LAW,

                    IN RELATION TO REQUIRING SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOLS MANUFACTURED OR

                    DELIVERED TO ANY LICENSED DEALER IN THIS STATE TO BE CAPABLE OF

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                    MICROSTAMPING AMMUNITION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07938, CALENDAR NO.

                    281, ASHBY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO DESIGNATING THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER IN THE TOWN OF SAND LAKE AS

                    A PEACE OFFICER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7938.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  MR. SPEAKER, CAN YOU PLEASE RECORD

                    MY COLLEAGUE MS. GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS IN THE NEGATIVE?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO WELCOME NEW

                    MEMBERS BACK, AND SO BACK IN THE CHAMBER WE HAVE OUR FORMER

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                    COLLEAGUE RAFAEL ESPINAL, JR. WHO HAS COME TO VISIT US.  AND SO, MR.

                    SPEAKER, IF CAN YOU GIVE HIM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE WE'D

                    APPRECIATE THAT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF THE SPEAKER, MS. SOLAGES AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    BACK.  ONCE A MEMBER, ALWAYS A MEMBER.  YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE.  GOOD TO SEE YOU.  AND I SEE YOU BROUGHT NEW

                    AND FRESH INDIVIDUALS TO US, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUIDING THEM

                    THROUGH THAT JOURNEY.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08022, CALENDAR NO.

                    284, DAVILA, BURGOS, ZINERMAN, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, DICKENS, CLARK,

                    GOTTFRIED, PERRY, JOYNER, ANDERSON, REYES, TAYLOR, GALLAGHER,

                    DINOWITZ, AUBRY, CRUZ, SAYEGH.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW,

                    IN RELATION TO THE ROLE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND

                    COMMUNITY SUPERVISION IN PANNING AND FACILITATING THE DISCHARGE OR

                    RELEASE OF INCARCERATED PERSONS TO THE COMMUNITY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

                                 PAGE 46, CALENDAR NO. 378, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08852-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 378, LUNSFORD.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND

                    RULES, IN RELATION TO INSURANCE DISCLOSURES; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF

                    THE LAWS OF 2021 AMENDING THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES RELATING

                    T INSURANCE DISCLOSURES, AS PROVIDED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S.7052

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                    AND A.8041, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    LUNSFORD, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 7882-A.  THIS IS A PARTY VOTE.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED AS AN EXCEPTION TO THEIR CONFERENCE

                    POSITION IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE

                    NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THE

                    REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE WILL BE GENERALLY OPPOSED TO THIS LEGISLATION

                    FOR THE REASONS I'LL EXPLAIN IN A MOMENT.  THANK YOU, SIR.  THOSE WHO

                    WISH TO VOTE IN FAVOR IT, OF COURSE, ARE ENCOURAGED TO CALL THE MINORITY

                    LEADER'S OFFICE AND WE'LL RECORD THEIR VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AS NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND MY

                    COLLEAGUES THAT THIS IS A PARTY VOTE.  MAJORITY MEMBERS BE RECORDED IN

                    THE AFFIRMATIVE.  IF THERE ARE ANY EXCEPTIONS I ASK THE MAJORITY

                    MEMBERS TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY LEADER'S OFFICE AT THE NUMBER

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                    PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED AND I WILL THEN ANNOUNCE THEIR NAME ACCORDINGLY.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  THIS IS A CHAPTER

                    AMENDMENT THAT DEALS WITH THE OBLIGATION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL TO

                    PROVIDE COPIES OF ALL THE INSURANCE INFORMATION FOR THEIR CLIENT.  THE

                    ORIGINAL BILL THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR WAS OPPOSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE

                    REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE BECAUSE IT DISTORTS WHAT SHOULD BE A SYSTEM OF

                    JUSTICE THAT FOCUSES ON WHAT THE ACTUAL LIABILITY IS OF THE DEFENDANT, IF

                    ANY, AND WHAT THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGES, IF ANY, SHOULD BE.  AND

                    UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF US THINK THIS IS PART OF AN EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT

                    ATTORNEYS AND THEIR POCKETBOOK COMES FIRST AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM

                    COMES SECOND.  WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED, OF COURSE, WHEN WE SEE

                    ALL THESE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR LAWYERS URGING PEOPLE TO CALL THEM.  AND

                    YOU MIGHT SAY, HOW CAN THEY PAY FOR ALL THESE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE

                    TELEVISION ADVERTISING?  AND THE ANSWER IS, THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF

                    EVERY CASE.  AND SO IF YOU SETTLED A PERSONAL INJURY ACTION, FOR

                    EXAMPLE, THE ATTORNEY WON'T TAKE ANY MORE FROM ONE-QUARTER TO

                    ONE-THIRD OF THE ENTIRE AMOUNT.  AND THAT CAN BE SUBSTANTIAL.  AND SO

                    WHAT THIS CHAPTER AMENDMENT SAYS IS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE ATTORNEY

                    RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CASE WITH ALL THE INSURANCE INFORMATION SO

                    THAT THE ATTORNEY KNOWS RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING HOW MUCH GOLD IS AT THE

                    END OF THAT RAINBOW.  AND THIS MAKES SURE THAT OUR ATTORNEY COLLEAGUES

                    KNOW HOW MUCH EFFORT TO PUT IN, HOW MUCH CASH THEY'LL MAKE IF THEY

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                    SETTLE A CASE, HOW MUCH THE CASE IS WORTH RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.  SO

                    RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON THE MERITS OF THE CASE AND THE ACTUAL DAMAGES,

                    THEY KNOW HOW MUCH CASH IS INVOLVED AND IT DISTORTS THE WHOLE

                    PROCESS.

                                 NOW, THE CHAPTER AMENDMENT MAKES THE ORIGINAL BILL

                    SOMEWHAT BETTER BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL BILL REQUIRED THAT DISCLOSURE TO BE

                    WITHIN 60 DAYS AND THIS CHAPTER AMENDMENT MOVES IT TO 90 DAYS.  BUT

                    IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM, THAT IS, THE FOCUS ON THE

                    ATTORNEYS' POCKETBOOK RATHER THAN THE JUSTICE FOR THE PLAINTIFF.  AND FOR

                    THAT REASON I'LL OPPOSE IT AND RECOMMEND MY COLLEAGUES DO THE SAME.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

                                 MS. LUNSFORD TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. LUNSFORD:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS SIMPLY TO CLARIFY THE NATURE,

                    TIMING AND SCOPE OF INSURANCE DISCLOSURE.  IT'S TO STOP GAMESMANSHIP

                    FROM INSURANCE COMPANIES PREVENTING PLAINTIFFS ATTORNEYS AND TRIAL

                    ATTORNEYS FROM UNDERSTANDING WHO THEY ARE SEEKING INFORMATION FROM,

                    WHICH ATTORNEYS NEED TO BE INVOLVED, AND DELAYING JUSTICE FOR THE

                    PEOPLE OF THIS STATE WHO ARE SEEKING REDRESS FOR HARMS AGAINST THEM.

                    THIS CHANGE HELPS CLARIFY THE TIMING.  IT HELPS RELIEVE SOME UNDUE

                    BURDENS ON LARGER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE MANY CLAIMS.  HAPPY TO

                    MAKE THOSE CHANGES.  AND IT CLARIFIES THAT THE RELEVANT POLICIES SIMPLY

                    NEED TO BE DISCLOSED IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME SO THAT ATTORNEYS

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                    ARE NOT TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS INTO A CASE AND SUDDENLY FINDING OUT

                    THERE'S ANOTHER INSURANCE COMPANY INVOLVED, ANOTHER ATTORNEY INVOLVED

                    TO MAKE THIS CASE TAKE EVEN LONGER FOR THEIR CLIENTS.  YOU KNOW, THESE

                    QUESTIONS OF RELEVANCY, WHICH ARE OF COURSE FOR THE COURTS TO DECIDE,

                    ARE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING WITH INSURANCE

                    COMPANIES ABOUT.  SO WHAT THESE CHAPTER AMENDMENTS DO IS SIMPLY

                    CLARIFY WHAT IS EXPECTED OF PLAYERS IN A GAME THAT IS RIGGED AGAINST

                    PEOPLE IN THIS STATE, AND I'M HAPPY TO SPONSOR THIS BILL.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. LUNSFORD IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. ABINANTI TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. ABINANTI:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THE

                    SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION JUST GAVE A VERY GOOD EXPLANATION THAT THIS

                    IS PURELY A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT THAT MAKES IT CLEAR WHAT WE DID LAST

                    YEAR.  SOME PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO TURN THIS LEGISLATION INTO AN ATTACK ON

                    THE SYSTEM OF -- OF THE LAWYERS GETTING A PERCENTAGE OF THE TAKE AT THE

                    END AND SAYING THAT THAT IS A -- A BAD SYSTEM, WHILE THE ONES WHO

                    BENEFIT BY DOING AWAY WITH THE CONTINGENCY APPROACH ARE THE

                    INSURANCE COMPANIES, ARE THE DEFENDANTS, BECAUSE POOR PEOPLE CANNOT

                    AFFORD TO HIRE A LAWYER.  AND WHEN A POOR PERSON IS DAMAGED, THE ONLY

                    WAY THEY CAN GET A LAWYER IS IF THE LAWYER WORKS ON A CONTINGENCY.

                    SIMILARLY, GOOD DISCLOSURE LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF LITIGATION IN COURT.  IF A

                    PLAINTIFF'S LAWYER UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE'S ONLY A $10,000 POLICY, THEY

                    WILL NOT ASK FOR $400,000 EVEN IF $400,000 WORTH OF DAMAGES IS

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                    WARRANTED BECAUSE THEY WILL KNOW THAT DEFENDANT CANNOT PAY $400,000

                    AND THEY WILL SETTLE THE CASE MUCH QUICKER.

                                 THIS MAKES THE SYSTEM -- THIS BILL MAKES THE SYSTEM

                    MORE EFFICIENT AND FAIRER FOR EVERYONE.  THEREFORE, I VOTE IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. ABINANTI IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD MY

                    COLLEAGUE MR. MONTESANO IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL NOW TAKE UP

                    TWO RESOLUTIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF SEATING OUR NEWEST MEMBERS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL READ

                    THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTIONS.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. 576, MR. HEASTIE.

                                 ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION IN RELATION TO THE ELECTION AND

                    SEATING OF NIKKI LUCAS AS A MEMBER OF THE ASSEMBLY FROM THE 60TH

                    ASSEMBLY DISTRICT.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION, 576.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER

                    WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. LUCAS -- ASSEMBLYMEMBER LUCAS, WE WELCOME

                    YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  THIS IS THE FAMILY THAT IS

                    YOU HAVE JOINED. WE HOPE THAT YOUR TIME HERE WILL BE BENEFICIAL AND

                    THAT YOU WILL FIND THE PURPOSE THAT YOU SOUGHT.  THANK YOU SO VERY

                    MUCH, AND WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. 577, MR. HEASTIE.

                                 ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION IN RELATION TO THE ELECTION AND

                    SEATING OF MANNY DE LOS SANTOS AS A MEMBER OF THE ASSEMBLY FROM

                    THE 72ND ASSEMBLY DISTRICT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE ON RESOLUTION 577.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY MEMBER WHO

                    WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

                    MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                        FEBRUARY 17, 2022

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 ASSEMBLYMEMBER DE LOS SANTOS, WELCOME TO THE

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  AGAIN, YOU JOINED THIS FAMILY.  WE ARE

                    HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.  AND YOU AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER LUCAS ARE FOREVER

                    BOUND AS A PARTY OF TWO THAT ARRIVED AT THE SAME DATE.  WE ARE HAPPY

                    THAT YOU ARE HERE.  HOPE THAT YOUR TIME HERE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT

                    YOU WILL ACHIEVE THE THINGS THAT YOU SEEK TO ACHIEVE HERE IN THIS BODY.

                    THANK YOU AGAIN, AND WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO WE HAVE ANY

                    FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE DO HAVE

                    NUMEROUS FINE RESOLUTIONS.  WE WILL TAKE THEM UP WITH ONE VOTE.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 573-575 AND

                    578 WERE UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED.)

                                 MS. SOLAGES.

                                 MS. SOLAGES:  I NOW MOVE THAT THE ASSEMBLY

                    STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH, TOMORROW BEING A

                    LEGISLATIVE DAY, AND THAT WE RECONVENE AT 2:00 P.M., FEBRUARY 28TH --

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                        FEBRUARY 17, 2022

                    FEBRUARY 28TH -- THAT MONDAY BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 11:20 A.M., THE HOUSE STOOD

                    ADJOURNED UNTIL FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 18TH, THAT BEING A LEGISLATIVE DAY,

                    AND TO RECONVENE ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH AT 2:00 P.M., THAT BEING A

                    SESSION DAY.)





































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