TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2022 3:24 P.M.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME

TO ORDER.

IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

SILENCE.

(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

OF ALLEGIANCE.

(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

JOURNAL OF MONDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH [SIC].

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF MONDAY, FEBRUARY

THE 7TH AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

ORDERED.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, SIR. TODAY I

WOULD LIKE TO START OUR PROCESS WITH A QUOTE THAT COMES FROM MARY

MCLEOD BETHUNE. MISS BETHUNE WAS AN AMERICAN EDUCATOR, A

STATESWOMAN, A PHILANTHROPIC HUMANITARIAN AND A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST.

HER WORDS FOR US TODAY, EDUCATION IS THE GREAT AMERICAN ADVENTURE,

THE WORLD'S MOST COLOSSAL DEMOCRATIC EXPERIMENT. THOSE WORDS WERE

VERY VALID AT THE TIME IT WAS SAID, THEY'RE VERY VALID TODAY, MR.

SPEAKER. AS YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK WE HAVE TO DO

ON THAT DEMOCRATIC EXPERIENCE SO THAT WE CAN DEMONSTRATE EQUITY FOR

ALL STUDENTS.

SO, COLLEAGUES, WELCOME TO THE CHAMBERS. TODAY

YOU SHOULD REALIZE THAT YOU DO HAVE ON YOUR DESK A MAIN CALENDAR,

AND AFTER HOUSEKEEPING THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP

THE RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3, BY WHICH SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES WILL BE

SPEAKING ON THE RESOLUTION TODAY. THEN WE WILL TAKE UP THE FOLLOWING

BILLS ON CONSENT: CALENDAR NO. 129 AND CALENDAR NO. 131. THEY ARE

BOTH ON PAGE 23, MR. SPEAKER. THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR

CONSENT ON THE MAIN CALENDAR WITH CALENDAR NO. 157 THROUGH

CALENDAR NO. 175, STARTING ON PAGE 27. AT THAT POINT, MR. SPEAKER,

WE'RE GOING HAVE -- TO GO ON DEBATE AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH RULES

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

REPORT NO. 46. IT'S ON PAGE 4 AND IT'S BY MS. WALKER.

THAT IS A GENERAL OUTLINE. COLLEAGUES SHOULD ALSO

KNOW THAT THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE A NEED FOR A MAJORITY CONFERENCE

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF SESSION TODAY. AND AS WE ALWAYS

DO, WE'LL CONSULT WITH OUR COLLEAGUES TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR NEEDS

MAY BE AS WELL. MR. SPEAKER, THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING

TODAY. IF YOU HAVE HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, MRS.

PEOPLES-STOKES. WE DO HAVE A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.

AT THE REQUEST OF MS. RICHARDSON, CALENDAR NO. 124,

BILL NO. 3366-B IS RECOMMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE ON CORRECTIONS.

ALSO AT THE REQUEST OF MS. RICHARDSON, CALENDAR NO.

166, BILL NO. 5264-C IS RECOMMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE ON CODES.

AND MS. RICHARDSON COMPLETES WITH CALENDAR NO.

283, BILL NO. 7957 AND IS RECOMMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE ON CODES.

PAGE 3, ASSEMBLY 54 -- 541, THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. 541, MR. CUSICK.

LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2022 AS TEEN DATING VIOLENCE

AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS

ADOPTED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. 542, MR. DESTEFANO.

LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2022 AS LIBRARY LOVER'S MONTH IN

THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. DESTEFANO ON THE

RESOLUTION.

MR. DESTEFANO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION. AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST,

LIBRARY LOVER'S MONTH IS A CELEBRATION DEDICATED TO EVERYDAY PEOPLE.

IN LIBRARIES YOU CAN DISCOVER AMAZING ADVENTURES, ENJOY MUSIC AND ART,

CULTURE AND HISTORY. YOU MIGHT FIND -- FIND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT

YOURSELF. LIBRARIES ARE OFTEN SEEN AS A THING OF THE PAST. HOWEVER,

THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT TODAY THAN EVER BEFORE. THIS IS BECAUSE

LIBRARIES ARE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT RESOURCES OUR COMMUNITY HAS.

LIBRARIES ARE FREE AND THEY OFFER A VARIETY OF RESOURCES THAT ARE

ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. LIBRARIES PROVIDE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

THEY'RE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN MEET FRIENDS, STUDY FOR EXAMS OR JUST

RELAX. IN TODAY'S SOCIETY IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO HAVE PLACES

WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER AND CONNECT. LIBRARIES ARE MOST

IMPORTANT FOR EDUCATION. MOST LIBRARIES OFFER FREE CLASSES LIKE

EVERYTHING FROM COMPUTER SKILLS TO COOKING. THERE ARE ALSO EXTENSIVE

COLLECTIONS OF BOOKS, MOVIES AND MUSIC THAT YOU CAN BORROW FOR FREE.

LIBRARIES HOPE -- LIBRARIES HELP PROMOTE LITERACY. ACCORDING TO THE

NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF LITERACY, 32 MILLION ADULTS IN THE UNITED STATES

CANNOT READ WELL ENOUGH TO DO EVERYDAY TASKS LIKE READING, MEDICATION

LABELS OR FILLING OUT JOB APPLICATIONS. LIBRARIES OFFER RESOURCES LIKE

TUTORING PROGRAMS AND EARLY CHILDHOOD LITERACY ACTIVITIES THAT HELP

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

PROMOTE LITERACY AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ FOR PLEASURE. LIBRARIES

OFFER A SAFE PLACE FOR KIDS. ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN LIBRARY

ASSOCIATION, PUBLIC LIBRARIES ARE ONE OF THE FEW PLACES WHERE KIDS CAN

GO WITHOUT AN ADULT. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS

SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN. AND MOST LIBRARIES HAVE A ZERO

TOLERANCE FOR BULLYING AND HARASSMENT. LIBRARIES ARE HOMES TO SOME OF

THE WORLD OLDEST MANUSCRIPTS AND DOCUMENTS. THEY ALSO HAVE

EXTENSIVE COLLECTIONS OF PHOTOGRAPHS, MAPS AND OTHER HISTORICAL

ARTIFACTS THAT WOULD BE OTHERWISE UNAVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. LIBRARIES

PROVIDE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY. IN ADDITION TO COMPUTERS, MOST LIBRARIES

NOW HAVE E-READERS, TABLETS AND OTHER DEVICES YOU CAN BORROW OR USE

IN THE LIBRARY. THEY ALSO OFFER FREE WI-FI AND INTERNET ACCESS.

LIBRARIES ARE A GREAT PLACE TO FIND JOBS AND CAREER ADVICE. MOST

LIBRARIES HAVE DATABASES OF JOB LISTINGS AND RESOURCES LIKE

RESUME-WRITING CLASSES AND INTERVIEW TIPS. LIBRARIES HELP SUPPORT THE

LOCAL ECONOMY. LIBRARIES OFTEN -- OFTEN PARTNER WITH BUSINESSES AND

ORGANIZATIONS TO OFFER DISCOUNTS, FREE EVENTS AND PROGRAMS FOR THE

PUBLIC. LIBRARIES PROVIDE A PLACE TO LEARN NEW THINGS. LIBRARIES OFFER

MORE THAN JUST BOOKS, MOVIES. THEY ALSO HAVE CLASSES, WORKSHOPS AND

OTHER ACTIVITIES YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN FOR FREE.

IT IS THE SENSE OF THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT WHEN YOU

HAVE INSTITUTIONS OF SUCH NOBLE AIMS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, THEY

SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND CELEBRATED. AS SUCH, I PROUDLY INTRODUCE

THIS MEASURE PROCLAIMING FEBRUARY AS LIBRARY LOVER'S MONTH IN THE

STATE OF NEW YORK, AND ENCOURAGE THE GOVERNOR AND ALL OF MY

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN HERALDING THIS GREAT -- AND MANY LIBRARIES THAT

PEOPLE TIRELESSLY WORK TO MAKE A COMMUNITY PLACE TO GET TOGETHER.

I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE

AISLE FOR COSPONSORING THIS. THIS IS -- THIS A VERY IMPORTANT RESOLUTION

BECAUSE IT PROVIDES COMMUNITIES A GET-TOGETHER PLACE, A PLACE WHERE

PEOPLE CAN GET TOGETHER AND JUST LEARN ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO

LEARN ABOUT AND JUST CONNECT WITH OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR

COMMUNITY. AND THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK

ON THIS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.

AND MR. GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR. I -- I JOIN MY

COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE IN ASKING GOVERNOR KATHY HOCHUL

TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY AS LIBRARY LOVER'S MONTH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

JOINING WITH ALL MY FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE --

THE AISLE IN MARCH TO RESTORE ALL THE FUNDING CUTS FOR OUR LIBRARIES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY.

ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

AYE; OPPOSED, NO.

AND I HOPE, MR. DESTEFANO, YOU LET ME ON THAT

BECAUSE I'M A LIBRARY KID FROM WHEN I GREW UP. THANK YOU.

THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. 543, MR. MCDONALD.

LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM APRIL 9, 2022 AS YELLOW RIBBON DAY IN THE

STATE OF NEW YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS

ADOPTED.

PAGE 23, CALENDAR NO. 129, THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A03600-B, CALENDAR

NO. 129, PAULIN, OTIS, SAYEGH. AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 154 OF THE

LAWS OF 1921 RELATING TO THE PORT AUTHORITY OF NEW YORK AND NEW

JERSEY, IN RELATION TO PORT AUTHORITY ORGANIZATION, APPEARANCE AND

NOTICE.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 3600-B. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY

MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

PAGE 24, CALENDAR NO. 131.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A03826-B, CALENDAR

NO. 131, VANEL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE RACING, PARI-MUTUEL WAGERING

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

AND BREEDING LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING ALL ADVERTISEMENTS FOR

GAMBLING AND SPORTS BETTING TO INCLUDE WARNINGS ABOUT POTENTIAL

HARMFUL AND ADDICTIVE EFFECTS OF GAMBLING AND TO REQUIRING THE STATE

GAMING COMMISSION TO COOPERATE WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF

ADDICTION SERVICES AND SUPPORTS TO ENSURE THAT ALL ADVERTISEMENTS FOR

GAMING ACTIVITY STATE A PROBLEM GAMBLING HOTLINE NUMBER.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

DAY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 3826-B. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY

MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

PAGE 27, CALENDAR NO. 157 ON CONSENT.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04870, CALENDAR NO.

157, GOODELL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN

RELATION TO DESIGNATING UNIFORMED COURT OFFICERS IN THE TOWN OF BUSTI,

COUNTY OF CHAUTAUQUA, AS PEACE OFFICERS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 4870. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY MEMBER

WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU

COULD PLEASE RECORD OUR COLLEAGUE MR. DILAN IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS

LEGISLATION AS WELL.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: SO NOTED.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04905, CALENDAR NO.

158, WEPRIN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO

PROVIDING IDENTIFICATION CARDS TO INMATES UPON RELEASE FROM

INCARCERATION.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04938, CALENDAR NO.

159, EPSTEIN, GALLAGHER, STECK, JACKSON, GOTTFRIED. AN ACT TO AMEND

THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO LIMITED SCOPE

APPEARANCES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04947, CALENDAR NO.

160, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, REYES, GRIFFIN, MEEKS, COLTON, ZINERMAN,

SIMON, FRONTUS. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PENAL LAW, IN RELATION TO CRIMES

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

INVOLVING THE DEATH OR INJURY OF A WORKER.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04962, CALENDAR NO.

161, ZEBROWSKI, GLICK. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PENAL LAW, IN RELATION TO

THE UNLAWFUL USE OR OPERATION OF AN UNMANNED AIRCRAFT.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 4962. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY MEMBER

WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05031, CALENDAR NO.

162, RAMOS, WEPRIN, TAYLOR, L. ROSENTHAL, THIELE, COLTON, ABINANTI,

REYES, GRIFFIN, CARROLL, JACOBSON, GLICK, GOTTFRIED. AN ACT TO AMEND

THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO TIME LIMITATIONS FOR

FILING CLAIMS FOR CERTAIN INJURIES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05108, CALENDAR NO.

163, ABBATE, COLTON, BARNWELL, LAWLER, SILLITTI, SAYEGH. AN ACT IN

RELATION TO AFFECTING -- AFFECTING THE HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS AND

CONTRIBUTIONS OF CERTAIN RETIRED PUBLIC EMPLOYEES.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05224, CALENDAR NO.

164, GALEF, SEAWRIGHT, JACOBSON, ASHBY, THIELE, BURDICK, JENSEN,

MCDONALD, SILLITTI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO

PROVIDING FOR MANDATORY TRAINING CURRICULUM FOR TREASURERS OF POLITICAL

COMMITTEES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1, 2023.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5224. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY MEMBER

WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MR. GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. PLEASE

RECORD MY COLLEAGUE MR. DIPIETRO IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS BILL. THANK

YOU, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. DIPIETRO IN THE

NEGATIVE. SO NOTED.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05238, CALENDAR NO.

165, BARRETT, DICKENS, ZINERMAN, MAGNARELLI, THIELE, SIMON,

SEAWRIGHT, GALEF, STERN, FERNANDEZ, MONTESANO, GONZ�LEZ-ROJAS,

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

FORREST, REYES, BURGOS, BURDICK, DINOWITZ, ABINANTI, SALKA, WALCZYK,

HEVESI, GOTTFRIED, CAHILL, ENGLEBRIGHT, AUBRY, JACKSON, SOLAGES.

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY PROPOSING

AMENDMENTS TO SECTIONS 3 AN 4 OF ARTICLE 17 OF THE CONSTITUTION, IN

RELATION TO THE PROTECTION AND PROMOTION OF THE MENTAL HEALTH OF NEW

YORKERS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5238. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY MEMBER

WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

MRS. BARRETT TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

MRS. BARRETT: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PERSON IN THIS ROOM OR

ANY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN IMPACTED OVER THE LAST

COUPLE OF YEARS WITH ISSUES AROUND MENTAL HEALTH. COVID REALLY

BROUGHT TO FOCUS WHAT A CRISES WE HAVE IN OUR STATE AND IN OUR COUNTRY

AROUND MENTAL HEALTH, WHETHER IT'S SCHOOL CHILDREN FROM THE EARLIEST --

EARLY CHILDHOOD THROUGH ADOLESCENCE, WHETHER IT'S SENIORS WHO STRUGGLE

WITH ISOLATION, VETERANS WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH ISSUES THAT -- THAT

HEARKEN BACK TO THEIR SERVICE AND HAUNTED THEM THROUGHOUT THIS PERIOD.

SO I'M REALLY PROUD TO HAVE THIS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT MOVE

FORWARD. NEW YORK NEEDS TO DO OUR PART TO DESTIGMATIZE MENTAL HEALTH

AND GIVE IT PARITY WITH PHYSICAL HEALTH IN OUR NEW YORK STATE

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

CONSTITUTION AND AMEND LAWS THAT STARTED TO DEVELOP IN 1938 AND

HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED SINCE THEN.

I'M HONORED TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, AND I THANK

YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. BARRETT IN THE

AFFIRMATIVE.

MR. ABINANTI TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

MR. ABINANTI: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS

LEGISLATION WOULD ADD -- WOULD PRESENT TO THE VOTERS A -- A PROPOSAL TO

ADD THE WORDS "PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH" TO OUR NEW YORK STATE

CONSTITUTION IN A SECTION THAT PROVIDES PROTECTION AGAINST

DISCRIMINATION. THIS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT PUTS IN OUR

CONSTITUTION WHAT WE HAVE LONG BELIEVED TO BE THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF

NEW YORK STATE, THAT WE SHOULD NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE ON THE

BASIS OF THEIR PHYSICAL OR MENTAL HEALTH. AND THIS PROVIDES PARITY FOR

MENTAL HEALTH TO PHYSICAL HEALTH. I COMMEND THE SPONSOR, AND THIS IS

AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. WE NEED THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF

NEW YORK TO COME FORWARD AND AFFIRMATIVELY STATE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT

THAT WE HAVE PARITY FOR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH IN THE STATE OF NEW

YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. ABINANTI IN THE

AFFIRMATIVE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05264-C, CALENDAR

NO. 166 WAS PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED TO COMMITTEE.

ASSEMBLY NO. A05338, CALENDAR NO. 167,

J.M. GIGLIO. AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 264 OF THE LAWS OF 1981,

RELATING TO AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF CERTAIN LANDS IN THE TOWNS OF CUBA,

ALLEGANY COUNTY, AND ISCHUA, CATTARAUGUS COUNTY, AND THE STATE

FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE SALE OF CERTAIN LANDS IN THE TOWNS OF

CUBA, ALLEGANY COUNTY, AND ISCHUA, CATTARAUGUS COUNTY, AND THE

DISBURSEMENT OF MONIES FROM THE CUBA LAKE MANAGEMENT FUND.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5338. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY MEMBER

WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05373-A, CALENDAR

NO. 168, LAWLER. AN ACT TO AMEND THE TOWN LAW, IN RELATION TO

AUTHORIZING THE TOWN OF ORANGETOWN, COUNTY OF ROCKLAND, TO

ESTABLISH COMMUNITY PRESERVATION FUNDS; TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN

RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE TOWN OF ORANGETOWN TO IMPOSE A REAL

ESTATE TRANSFER TAX WITH REVENUES THEREFROM TO BE DEPOSITED IN SAID

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

COMMUNITY PRESERVATION FUND; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF CERTAIN

PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05438-A, CALENDAR

NO. 169, ZEBROWSKI, OTIS. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC SERVICE LAW, IN

RELATION TO RESPONSIBILITY FOR CABLE BILLS AFTER A DISCONNECTION OR

DOWNGRADE IN SERVICE.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

�ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL

RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5438-A. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05458, CALENDAR NO.

170, SOLAGES, GRIFFIN, SILLITTI, TAYLOR, EPSTEIN, DICKENS,

GONZ�LEZ-ROJAS, KELLES, ZINERMAN, JACKSON, LAVINE, LUNSFORD. AN ACT

TO AMEND THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW AND THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS LAW,

IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING MUNICIPAL OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES FROM

DISPLAYING POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENTS ON OR WITHIN PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05469, CALENDAR NO.

171, ENGLEBRIGHT, PEOPLES-STOKES, GLICK, GALEF, ABINANTI, SEAWRIGHT,

LUPARDO, ZINERMAN, SAYEGH. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC OFFICERS

LAW, IN RELATION TO DEFINING THE TERMS "RETIREE" AND "BENEFICIARY"

WITHIN THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION LAW.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05473-B, CALENDAR

NO. 172, GLICK. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO

STATE APPROPRIATIONS TO THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AND THE CITY

UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5473-B. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY

MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05495, CALENDAR NO.

173, GLICK, FAHY, STIRPE, GRIFFIN, COLTON, AUBRY. AN ACT TO AMEND THE

EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO MANDATORY REPORTING OF CERTAIN

CONVICTIONS, PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT AND/OR EMPLOYMENT TERMINATION;

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

AND TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN RELATION TO NOTICE TO THE

EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 180TH

DAY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5495. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY MEMBER

WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE

MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05499, CALENDAR NO.

174, GLICK, SIMON, GOTTFRIED, GRIFFIN, L. ROSENTHAL, EPSTEIN, OTIS,

ROZIC, LUPARDO, CLARK, MAGNARELLI, JACOBSON, DINOWITZ,

GONZ�LEZ-ROJAS, CARROLL, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, MITAYNES, QUART, AUBRY,

CRUZ, SEAWRIGHT. AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE COMMISSIONER OF HEALTH TO

CONDUCT A STUDY AND ISSUE A REPORT EXAMINING THE UNMET HEALTH AND

RESOURCE NEEDS FACING PREGNANT WOMEN IN NEW YORK AND THE IMPACT OF

LIMITED SERVICE PREGNANCY CENTERS ON THE ABILITY OF WOMEN TO OBTAIN

ACCURATE, NON-COERCIVE HEALTH CARE INFORMATION AND TIMELY ACCESS TO A

COMPREHENSIVE RANGE OF REPRODUCTIVE AND SEXUAL HEALTHCARE SERVICES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05517-B, CALENDAR

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

NO. 175, SOLAGES, GOTTFRIED, HEVESI, JACOBSON, WALLACE, SIMON,

FERNANDEZ, DESTEFANO, NOLAN, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, SEAWRIGHT, SILLITTI,

DINOWITZ, GALEF, ZINERMAN, ENGLEBRIGHT, L. ROSENTHAL, DAVILA, GRIFFIN,

BARRETT, CRUZ. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO

PROHIBITING VIRGINITY EXAMINATIONS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 5517 [SIC]. THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL. ANY

MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

PROVIDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

PAGE 4, RULES REPORT NO. 46, THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: SENATE NO. S07845, RULES REPORT NO.

46, SENATOR MYRIE (A08784, WALKER). AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 249

OF THE LAWS OF 2021, AMENDING THE ELECTION LAW RELATING TO ELECTRONIC

APPLICATIONS FOR ABSENTEE BALLOTS, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS

THEREOF; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2021, AMENDING THE

ELECTION LAW RELATING TO ESTABLISHING AN ELECTRONIC ABSENTEE BALLOT

APPLICATION TRANSMITTAL SYSTEM, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS

S.6482-B AND A.6970-A, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD

THE SPONSOR YIELD?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. WALKER, WILL YOU

YIELD?

MS. WALKER: YES, MR. SPEAKER.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS.

WALKER. I APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A CHAPTER AMENDMENT. IT

MAKES A FEW CHANGES. BUT I WANTED TO GO OVER TO MAKE SURE WE

UNDERSTAND WHAT STAYS THE SAME AND WHAT CHANGES. AND AS I

UNDERSTAND IT, THIS REALLY FOCUSES ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL

LEGISLATION.

MS. WALKER: YES. SO THIS CHANGES THE EFFECTIVE

DATE FROM DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 TO APRIL 1ST OF 2022.

MR. GOODELL: AND SO OUR COLLEAGUES KNOW WHAT

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS BILL -- THE ORIGINAL BILL-IN-CHIEF RELATED TO

ALLOWING ELECTRONIC ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATIONS, CORRECT?

MS. WALKER: CORRECT, SIR.

MR. GOODELL: NOW, LAST YEAR WHEN THIS BILL WAS

DISCUSSED THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED THAT THERE WERE

NO SAFEGUARDS IN THE BALLOT APPLICATION PROCESS, THE ELECTRONIC BALLOT

APPLICATION PROCESS. IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR AN

ORIGINAL SIGNATURE, IT COULD BE AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE, CORRECT?

MS. WALKER: WELL -- WELL, WHAT I BELIEVE, SIR, AND

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

YOU SAID THERE ARE NO SAFEGUARDS. NUMBER ONE, THE NUMBER ONE

SAFEGUARD THAT WE HAVE IS THAT ANY INFORMATION THAT'S FALSE ON ANY

APPLICATION IS SUBJECT TO THE RULES AND THE PENALTIES UNDER PERJURY. AND

SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE APPLICATION, THAT ALL RECORDS WITH RESPECT

TO SIGNATURES ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE ELECTRONIC

SIGNATURE AND RECORDS ACT AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS PROMULGATED

BY THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. SO TO STATE THAT THERE ARE NO

REGULATIONS, I BELIEVE, SIR, IS INCORRECT.

MR. GOODELL: WELL, SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE TYPES

OF SECURITY THAT WE HAVE UNDER THE EXISTING PROCESS. UNDER THE

EXISTING PROCESS, IF YOU APPLY TO BECOME REGISTERED AS A VOTER YOU'RE

ASKED TO PROVIDE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR A DRIVER'S ID NUMBER.

BUT WHEN YOU APPLY ELECTRONICALLY FOR AN ABSENTEE BALLOT THERE'S NO

REQUIREMENT THAT YOU IDENTIFY EVEN THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR SOCIAL

SECURITY NUMBER OR ANY PART OF YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER, CORRECT?

MS. WALKER: WELL, I BELIEVE, SIR, THAT WHEN YOU

ARE APPLYING TO REGISTER TO VOTE THAT THOSE ARE THE DOCUMENTATION OR

DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE BOARD OF

ELECTIONS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE AS IN VOTING, AS YOU WOULD,

UNDER AN ABSENTEE BALLOT SITUATION, YOU GO -- WHEN YOU VOTE YOU GO TO

THE APPROPRIATE DESK, YOU DO WHAT IS NECESSARY AND THEN YOU GET YOUR

BALLOT AND YOU GO INTO THE BOOTH AND YOU VOTE.

MR. GOODELL: AND UNDER THE PRIOR LEGISLATION,

BEFORE THIS ORIGINAL BILL AND THIS AMENDMENT, IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR AN

ABSENTEE BALLOT YOU HAD TO ACTUALLY SIGN THE APPLICATION, CORRECT?

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

MS. WALKER: WELL, THERE ARE RULES NOW WHERE

UNDER NEW TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT MEANS OF

SUPPLYING A SIGNATURE; SOME BEING ELECTRONIC AND SOME BEING MANUAL.

AND SO THIS BILL, ALONG WITH ITS SISTER BILLS WHICH DOES SIMILAR ADVANCES

IN TECHNOLOGIES IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEMS, WILL REQUIRE OR ALLOW A PERSON

TO SIGN A BILL ELECTRONICALLY IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO UTILIZE ITS ELECTRONIC

SYSTEM.

MR. GOODELL: BUT IT'S CLEAR, THOUGH, UNDER THIS

BILL NO LONGER IS IT MANDATORY THAT YOU HAVE A MANUAL SIGNATURE. AS

YOU MENTIONED, IT COULD BE AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE, CORRECT?

MS. WALKER: WELL, IT'S NOT MANDATORY FOR A

MANUAL, BUT YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS. AND SO WE ARE PUTTING MORE TOOLS

IN THE TOOLBOX OF THE EDUCATED AND TECHNOLOGICALLY-ADVANCED VOTER.

HOWEVER, IN THE EVENT THAT PEOPLE LIKE MY MOM -- YOU KNOW, SHE STILL

LIKED TO -- TO DO THINGS THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE SINCE SHE'S BEEN

KNOWING HOW TO DO THEM, YOU STILL HAVE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SPEAKING TO VOTERS OF ALL AGES

AS WELL AS ALL EXPERIENCES.

MR. GOODELL: NOW, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES

WHEN THERE'S, LIKE, AN ONLINE POLL THAT THE SOFTWARE THAT RECORDS THE

VOTES ALSO RECORDS THE IP ADDRESS SO THAT ONE PERSON CAN'T KEEP VOTING

OVER AND OVER AND OVER ON THE ONLINE POLL. IS THERE ANY PROTECTION LIKE

THAT ON THE ELECTRONIC APPLICATION SO THAT ONE PERSON AT ONE COMPUTER

COULDN'T APPLY FOR DOZENS OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS?

MS. WALKER: WELL, SIR, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE

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CONVERSATION IS ABOUT HOW MANY APPLICATIONS ARE BEING REQUESTED BY A

PARTICULAR COMPUTER. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THAT A VOTER

WHO CHOOSES TO VOTE BECAUSE OF -- BY ABSENTEE BALLOT BECAUSE OF THE

CONDITION OF THE PANDEMIC THAT WE ARE IN AT THE MOMENT, IF THEY CHOOSE

TO REQUEST AN ABSENTEE BALLOT IT'S ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL VOTER AND NOT

ABOUT THE IP ADDRESS OF THE COMPUTER THAT'S BEING UTILIZED TO MAKE THAT

REQUEST.

MR. GOODELL: AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE EVERY YEAR

REPORTS OF ABSENTEE BALLOT FRAUD. THERE WERE A COUPLE -- IN FACT, JUST

LAST YEAR IN THE CITY ELECTION THERE WAS A VERY CLOSE RACE IN THE

COUNCIL, AND THERE WERE 11 ABSENTEE BALLOTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY

PEOPLE WHO WERE DEAD, WHICH IS ALWAYS AN INTERESTING CHALLENGE TO

QUESTION THEM ABOUT IT. ALSO, RIGHT NEXT DOOR IN RENSSELAER COUNTY,

ABSENTEE BALLOTS WERE DISCOVERED THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY PEOPLE WHO

NEVER APPLIED FOR THEM AND WERE SURPRISED, PERHAPS, WHEN THEY

SHOWED UP AT THE BALLOT -- ON ELECTION DAY TO FIND OUT THAT SOMEBODY

SUBMITTED A BALLOT FOR THEM. PERHAPS MOST EGREGIOUS, THOUGH, WAS

BACK IN 2015 INVOLVING A MEMBER OF OUR OWN HOUSE HERE, WAS IN A

PRIMARY CHALLENGE AND THERE WERE 242 FRAUDULENT ABSENTEE BALLOTS

SUBMITTED IN THAT PRIMARY. AND WHAT WAS FASCINATING TO ME WAS THAT

EVEN THOUGH ONE OF THE CANDIDATES WAS ARRESTED FOR 242 COUNTS OF

BALLOT FRAUD, ABSENTEE BALLOT FRAUD, HE LOST THE PRIMARY BY JUST TWO

VOTES. IMAGINE IF HE HAD ONLY PUT IN 247 OR 248, HE MIGHT HAVE WON.

BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS BILL THAT TRIES TO ADDRESS THE MEANS THAT

WERE USED IN ALL OF THOSE FRAUDULENT ABSENTEE BALLOTS? IS THERE

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

ANYTHING IN THIS BILL THAT TRIES TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM?

MS. WALKER: WELL, I AM UNAWARE OF ALL OF THE

ACCOUNTS THAT YOU JUST RECENTLY SPOKE OF. HOWEVER, AGAIN, AS I STATED,

ANYTHING -- ANY INFORMATION WHICH IS UNTRUE THAT IS SUBMITTED IS

SUBJECT TO THE PENALTIES OF PERJURY, SIR. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE

VERY MANY SAFEGUARDS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE IN MANY SYSTEMS SUCH AS THE

NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES, AND ANY APPLICATION

OR ANY SIGNATURE WILL BE OBTAINED THROUGH THE USAGE OF THE NEW YORK

STATE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE AND RECORDS ACT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, SIR, IF

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE A SIGNATURE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE

ORIGINAL APPLICATION, THE DATABASE, STATEWIDE DATABASES WHICH -- WHICH

COLLECTS THIS INFORMATION WILL BE UTILIZED FOR THAT EXEMPLAR. IF WE ARE

UNABLE TO FIND IT UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEN THE VOTER WILL BE

CONTACTED DIRECTLY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SIGNATURE, WHETHER MANUALLY

OR ELECTRONICALLY. SO IN ADDITION TO THE TWO (INAUDIBLE) PROCEDURAL

SAFEGUARDS THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION, IT

ALLOWS FOR THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO MAKE THREE ATTEMPTS IN ORDER TO

OBTAIN THAT APPLICATION -- OBTAIN THE SIGNATURE FOR THE APPLICATION.

MR. GOODELL: YOU'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES

THAT, YOU KNOW, FALSE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED ARE SUBJECT TO PERJURY.

AND I'VE -- I'VE CITED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CASES. JUST LAST YEAR IN THE

NEW YORK CITY CITY COUNCIL RACE BETWEEN FOX AND BRANNAN. IN

RENSSELAER COUNTY WHERE SEVERAL PEOPLE PLED GUILTY, AND THE ONE

GOING BACK INVOLVING ONE OF OUR OWN COLLEAGUES. DO YOU KNOW IF

ANYONE IN ANY ONE OF THOSE CASES WAS ARRESTED FOR PERJURY?

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

MS. WALKER: WELL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE

RESPECTIVE DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND -- AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOR THOSE

PARTICULAR AREAS. THAT IS JUST NOT SOMETHING WITHIN MY PURVIEW.

MR. GOODELL: WELL, I -- I DID SOME, YOU KNOW,

ONLINE RESEARCH - AND GRANTED, THAT'S NOT EXHAUSTIVE - BUT I DIDN'T COME

ACROSS A SINGLE CASE WHERE A PERSON WAS ARRESTED IN NEW YORK STATE

FOR SUBMITTING A PERJURIOUS ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATION. ARE YOU AWARE

OF A SINGLE CASE?

MS. WALKER: WELL, I WILL CHECK MY ONLINE

DATABASE OF THE ENCYCLOPEDIA ACCORDING TO TWITTER, INSTAGRAM OR

FACEBOOK, SIR, AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

MR. GOODELL: AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, I'M NOT

ON ANY OF THOSE.

(LAUGHTER)

MS. WALKER: WELL, WHERE ARE YOU SENDING ME TO?

MR. GOODELL: OKAY. AND THE ELECTRONIC

SIGNATURE, THE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE DOESN'T ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE YOUR

MANUAL SIGNATURE IN ANY WAY, CORRECT?

MS. WALKER: THE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE -- WELL,

THERE ARE VERY MANY WAYS THAT YOU CAN USE AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE.

THERE ARE SOME ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES THAT ARE NOT YOUR ACTUAL SIGNATURE,

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STILL, FOR INSTANCE, I BELIEVE LIKE THEY DO IF

YOU'RE FILING YOUR TAXES OR OTHER MEANS. AND THERE ARE OTHER ELECTRONIC

SIGNATURES LIKE AROUND HERE WHEN YOU'RE SENDING LETTERS YOU CAN

PROVIDE AN EXEMPLAR WHICH LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE YOUR ELECTRONIC

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SIGNATURE. AND SO THERE ARE VERY MANY DIFFERENT WAYS BY WHICH YOU

CAN PROVIDE AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE.

MR. GOODELL: WELL, ONE OF THE FEW WAYS THE

BOARD OF ELECTIONS VERIFIES VOTERS IS THEY COMPARE A PRIOR MANUAL

SIGNATURE WITH YOUR SIGNATURE WHEN YOU COME IN TO SIGN OR ON THE

BALLOT APPLICATION. DOES THIS BILL REQUIRE THAT THE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE

REPLICATE THE MANUAL SIGNATURE?

MS. WALKER: WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE THE BILL WILL

DESCRIBE -- YOU KNOW, YOU MUST SIGN YOUR SIGNATURE, YOU KNOW, THE

WAY THAT WE SAY YOU SIGN YOUR SIGNATURE. WHATEVER YOUR SIGNATURE IS

AND YOU SIGN IT AND YOU SAY THAT THIS IS YOUR SIGNATURE AND THAT'S THE

WAY YOU REPRESENT YOUR SIGNATURE, THEN WHO ARE WE TO TELL YOU HOW

YOU SHOULD SIGN IT? AND QUITE FRANKLY, YOUR SIGNATURE CHANGES. YOU

KNOW, I -- I REMEMBER MY MOM'S SIGNATURE WHEN I WAS, YOU KNOW, A

LITTLE GIRL. IT LOOKED VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN THE SIGNATURE THAT SHE SIGNS

TODAY. AND SO SHOULD THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS SAY TO HER, NO, COME

BACK AND SIGN THIS FORM LIKE YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE 35 YEARS OLD? NO.

MR. GOODELL: AND THAT'S WHY THEY COMPARE IT TO

THE MOST RECENT MANUAL SIGNATURE, CORRECT?

MS. WALKER: THAT'S WHY THEY WOULD COMPARE IT TO

THAT.

MR. GOODELL: AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS.

WALKER.

ON THE BILL, SIR.

MS. WALKER: THANK YOU.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.

GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM

MY COLLEAGUE, AND -- AND I IN GENERAL SUPPORT THE IDEA OF MAKING IT

EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE, CERTAINLY INCLUDING BY ABSENTEE BALLOT. BUT AT

THE SAME TIME WE NEED TO BALANCE OUR DESIRE TO HAVE PEOPLE BEING ABLE

TO VOTE FOR ABSENTEE BALLOT IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE OF

SICKNESS OR BECAUSE OF ABSENCE WITH THE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE

PROCESS MEETS MINIMUM LEVELS OF INTEGRITY. AND WE'RE ALWAYS

REMINDED OF THAT PHRASE, TRUST, BUT VERIFY, WHICH SHOULD APPLY

CERTAINLY IN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES, WHICH IS

VOTING. AND UNLIKE MANY OTHER STATES, NEW YORK DOES VIRTUALLY

NOTHING TO VERIFY THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SHOWS UP TO VOTE IS ACTUALLY

THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS REGISTERED TO VOTE. AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE STORIES

IN NEW YORK STATE OF FAIRLY WIDESPREAD ABSENTEE BALLOT FRAUD. AND

WHEN YOU READ MOST STORIES ABOUT THE MOST RECENT CONTROVERSIES, IF YOU

WILL, ABOUT THE LAST ELECTION, ALMOST ALL OF THEM SAY THE SAY THING.

THERE WASN'T ENOUGH FRAUD TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME. AND I WOULD

SUGGEST THAT'S NOT REALLY THE RIGHT STANDARD. I THINK THE REAL STANDARD

OUGHT TO BE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT'S REASONABLE TO PREVENT

BALLOT FRAUD.

NOW, ALMOST EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND PROBABLY

THOSE OUT IN NEW YORK STATE HAVE AT ONE TIME USED ELECTRONIC MEANS

TO PURCHASE SOMETHING OR TO CHECK A BANK ACCOUNT OR WHATEVER. BUT IN

ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PRIVATE TRANSACTION THEY ASK FOR SOME TYPE OF

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

VERIFICATION, WHETHER IT'S YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER OR WHETHER IT'S YOUR

SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR WHETHER IT'S A PASSWORD THAT YOU SELECTED

THAT'S PERSONAL TO YOU. BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN -- IN THE

PROCESS OF SELECTING THE VERY PEOPLE WHO RUN YOUR GOVERNMENT, IN NEW

YORK STATE WE DON'T ASK FOR ANY OF THAT. WE DON'T ASK FOR THE LAST FOUR

NUMBERS OF YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. WE DON'T ASK FOR YOU TO SET

UP A PASSWORD THAT CAN VERIFY YOUR EXISTENCE. WE DON'T SEND OUT AN

ACCESS CODE SO THAT YOU CAN VERIFY THAT IT'S ACTUALLY YOU. WE DON'T ASK

YOU TO DISCLOSE ANY PART OF YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER. WE DON'T ASK

ANYTHING. AND SO WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VERIFY THAT THE ABSENTEE BALLOT

APPLICATION WAS ACTUALLY FROM SOMEONE WHO IS ENTITLED TO ONE, ABOUT

THE ONLY MECHANISM WE'VE USED IN THE PAST IS WE COMPARE THE MANUAL

SIGNATURES. A MANUAL SIGNATURE, BY THE WAY, THAT THE ORIGINAL BILL

ELIMINATED. AND AS MY COLLEAGUE POINTED OUT, THE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE

THAT IS AUTHORIZED UNDER THIS BILL HAS NO REQUIREMENT THAT IT LOOKS AT ALL

LIKE YOUR MANUAL SIGNATURE. SO WE TAKE THE INADEQUATE ONE MEASURE

THAT WE USE, YOUR SIGNATURE, AND WITH THIS BILL WE ELIMINATE THAT

REQUIREMENT TO THE APPLICATION. NOW IF WE DIDN'T HAVE MULTIPLE

EXAMPLES OF ABSENTEE BALLOT FRAUD WHERE PEOPLE ARE SUBMITTING

APPLICATIONS ON BEHALF OF THEIR DEAD MOTHER OR MULTIPLE DEAD PEOPLE OR

WHAT IS OFTEN THE CASE, THEY MAY SUBMIT IT FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE

PRETTY SURE ARE NEVER GOING TO VOTE OTHERWISE, OR WHETHER THEY GO TO A

NURSING HOME AND THEY SAY, OH, DEAR, LET ME JUST HELP YOU OUT. I'LL

MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BALLOT IS COMPLETED THE WAY YOU WANT. JUST SIGN

HERE. AND WE SEND OUT ABSENTEE BALLOTS THAT HAVE NO BUILT-IN SECURITY

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

OF ANY KIND. THERE'S NO WATERMARK. THERE'S NO -- NO SECURITY OF ANY

KIND. SO IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE IN BALLOT FRAUD, IT'S SIMPLE. YOU JUST

TAKE ONE OF THOSE BALLOTS AND YOU CAN RUN IT OFF, MIMEOGRAPH IT. AND

OF COURSE AS YOU KNOW WHEN THEY COME BACK THE BALLOT ITSELF IS NOT

SIGNED.

SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A DUAL

GOAL WITH THIS LEGISLATURE. AND THE DUAL GOAL OUGHT TO BE TO MAXIMIZE

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN AN ELECTION WHILE

MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF FRAUD THAT HAS BEEN WELL-DOCUMENTED IN

MULTIPLE STORIES INCLUDING SITUATIONS INVOLVING OUR OWN MEMBERS. SO

LET'S NOT PRETEND THAT THE SYSTEM IS PERFECT. LET'S STRIVE TO MAKE IT

BETTER. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS BILL WHICH ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR A

MANUAL SIGNATURE, ACCEPTS AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO

VERIFY, GOES, IN MY OPINION, IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AS IT RELATES TO

ELECTION INTEGRITY.

SO WHILE I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND AGREE WITH MY

COLLEAGUE'S DESIRE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO REGISTER TO VOTE, LET'S

COUPLE THAT WITH VERY SIMPLE COMMONSENSE VERIFICATION PROCESSES THAT

EACH ONE OF US USE AND UNDERSTAND EVERY DAY IN EVERY DAY LIFE. IT'S NOT

MUCH TO ASK FOR. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S MISSING IN THIS BILL AND, THEREFORE,

I WILL BE RECOMMENDING AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY

COLLEAGUE FOR HER INSIGHTS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 7845. THIS IS A PARTY VOTE. ANY MEMBER WHO

WISHES TO BE RECORDED AS AN EXCEPTION TO THEIR CONFERENCE POSITION IS

REMINDED TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS

PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

MR. GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE

REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE WILL BE GENERALLY OPPOSED TO THIS LEGISLATION,

BUT THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT SHOULD CONTACT THE MINORITY LEADER'S OFFICE

AND WE WILL RECORD THEIR VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.

SPEAKER. MAJORITY COLLEAGUES WILL GENERALLY BE IN FAVOR OF THIS PIECE

OF LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE A FEW THAT WILL DESIRE TO VOTE IN

THE NEGATIVE. IF SO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY LEADER'S

OFFICE AND YOUR VOTE WILL BE PROPERLY RECORDED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.

SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I -- I LISTENED INTENTLY

TO A DEBATE ON THIS ONE AND I'VE HEARD SIMILAR DEBATES WHEN IT COMES

UP TO ELECTION LAW PIECES OF LEGISLATION. AND IT -- IT OCCURRED TO ME

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

THAT IN -- IN AMERICA SOME OF US MAY VIEW THIS VOTING OPPORTUNITY IN A

DIFFERENT WAY THAN OTHERS. AND THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE'S

ALWAYS GOING TO BE FRAUD. AND I -- I REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE

SOME PEOPLE WHO WILL COMMIT FRAUD WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM, BUT

BY AND LARGE, PEOPLE DO NOT. PEOPLE JUST REALLY WANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT

TO VOTE. AND SO I WANT TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION FOR

GIVING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SOME CASES STILL YET AFRAID TO LEAVE THEIR

HOMES AND JOIN OTHER PEOPLE IN PUBLIC PLACES AN OPPORTUNITY TO

CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

FOR THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I'M PLEASED TO BE VOTING IN

FAVOR OF THIS LEGISLATION.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ARE THERE ANY OTHER

VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE HAVE A FEW FINE

RESOLUTIONS. WE WILL TAKE THEM UP WITH ONE VOTE, MRS.

PEOPLES-STOKES.

ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

(WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 544 AND 545

WERE UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED.)

NYS ASSEMBLY FEBRUARY 8, 2022

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU. COULD YOU

PLEASE CALL ON MS. HUNTER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. HUNTER FOR THE

PURPOSE OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

MS. HUNTER: YES, MR. SPEAKER. THERE WILL BE A

NEED FOR AN IMMEDIATE MAJORITY CONFERENCE AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR

SESSION.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: I NOW MOVE THAT THE

ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED AND THAT WE RECONVENE AT 10:00 A.M.,

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY THE 9TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

ADJOURNED.

(WHEREUPON, AT 4:39 P.M., THE HOUSE STOOD ADJOURNED

UNTIL WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 9TH AT 10:00 A.M., THAT BEING A SESSION

DAY.)