WEDNESDAY, MAY 19, 2021                                                                          2:55 P.M.



                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

                    OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, MAY 18TH.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    THAT WE DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF TUESDAY,

                    MAY THE 18TH AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION,

                    SO ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME THE MANY

                    COLLEAGUES THAT ARE BACK IN THE CHAMBERS WITH US TODAY AS WELL AS

                    THOSE THAT ARE STILL PARTICIPATING REMOTELY.  I WANT TO SHARE A QUOTE FOR

                    THE DAY, AND THIS ONE IS COMING FROM MALCOLM X, WHOSE BIRTHDAY IS

                    TODAY.  AND THIS ONE SAYS, I'M FOR TRUTH, NO MATTER WHO TELLS IT.  I'M FOR

                    JUSTICE, NO MATTER WHO WORKS AGAINST IT.  AGAIN, THAT'S MALCOLM X.

                                 COLLEAGUES SHOULD NOTE THAT YOU -- THIS IS THE FIRST

                    SESSION DAY OF THE 20TH WEEK OF THE 244TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.  I AM

                    PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE OUR SCHEDULE FOR TODAY.  COLLEAGUES HAVE ON YOUR

                    DESK THE MAIN CALENDAR WITH 53 NEW BILLS IN IT, FROM CALENDAR NO. 338

                    ALL THE WAY TO CALENDAR NO. 390.  AND WE ALSO HAVE A DEBATE LIST ON

                    YOUR DESK.  SO OUR PRINCIPAL WORK FOR TODAY, MR. SPEAKER, WILL BEGIN

                    WITH RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.  I BELIEVE WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE COLLEAGUE

                    THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT RESOLUTION.  AND THEN WE WILL BE GOING

                    DIRECTLY TO OUR CALENDAR NO. 338 AND PROCEED RIGHT THROUGH TO

                    CALENDAR NO. 390.  AND THEN WE WILL ALSO WORK OFF OUR DEBATE LIST.

                                 THAT'S THE GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TODAY,

                    MR. SPEAKER.  IF THERE ARE ANY INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR HOUSEKEEPING, NOW

                    WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE CERTAINLY HAVE

                    SOME HOUSEKEEPING, MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MR. LAVINE, PAGE 8, CALENDAR NO.

                    360, BILL NO. 4580, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. PHEFFER AMATO, PAGE 22,

                    CALENDAR NO. 118, BILL NO. 950-A, THE AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND

                    ADOPTED.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MRS. GALEF, PAGE 35, CALENDAR NO.

                    315, BILL NO. 4522, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.


                                 WE WILL GO TO PAGE 3, RESOLUTIONS, ASSEMBLY NO. 298.

                    THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 298, MS.

                    WALLACE.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    ANDREW M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MAY 19, 2021, AS HOME FIRE SPRINKLER

                    AWARENESS DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE

                    OBSERVANCE OF NATIONAL HOME FIRE SPRINKLER AWARENESS DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 299, MS.

                    SOLAGES.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    ANDREW M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MAY 19, 2021, AS HUMAN MILK DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OBSERVANCE OF WORLD

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    HUMAN MILK DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE -- OVER HERE?

                                 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE - WE CAME ALL

                    THIS WAY, THANK YOU - OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 300, MRS.

                    BARRETT.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    ANDREW M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MAY 15-31, 2021, AS CIDER WEEK IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 302, MR.

                    BRABENEC.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    ANDREW M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MAY 16-22, 2021, AS EMERGENCY

                    MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH

                    THE OBSERVANCE OF NATIONAL EMS WEEK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 303, MS.

                    NIOU.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    ANDREW M. CUOMO TO PROCLAIM MAY 2021, AS ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN

                    HERITAGE MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. NIOU ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. NIOU:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE TO SPEAK

                    ON A RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING MAY 2021 AS ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN

                    HERITAGE MONTH IN NEW YORK STATE.  FOR 40 YEARS, COMMUNITIES ACROSS

                    THE NATION HAVE SET ASIDE THE MONTH OF MAY TO CELEBRATE THE GREAT

                    CONTRIBUTIONS OF ASIAN AMERICANS TO THE ECONOMY, ARTS, SCIENCE,

                    GOVERNMENT AND DOZENS OF OTHER FIELDS.  THIS IS ALSO BITTERSWEET.  EVEN

                    AS I WALKED BACK TO THE CAPITOL BUILDING TODAY, SOMEONE YELLED A

                    DISGUSTING RACIAL SLUR AT ME FROM THEIR CAR.  THE RISING TIDE OF

                    ANTI-ASIAN HATE AND VIOLENCE SWEEPING ACROSS NOT JUST OUR STATE, BUT

                    OUR COUNTRY REMINDS US THAT THE PRIDE WE SHOW IN CELEBRATING ASIAN

                    AMERICANS CAN ALSO BE AN ACT OF DEFIANCE.  DEFIANCE AGAINST THOSE WHO

                    WANT ASIAN AMERICANS TO SHUT UP, SIT DOWN, TO BE INVISIBLE OR TO GO

                    BACK TO WHEREVER THESE BIGOTS THINK WE CAME FROM.

                                 AT ITS HEART, APA HERITAGE MONTH IS ABOUT CELEBRATING

                    BELONGING, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT US TO

                    CELEBRATE AND DO NOT BELIEVE WE BELONG.  THAT BITTERNESS IS REFLECTED IN

                    GUT-WRENCHING NUMBERS LIKE 150 PERCENT.  THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF

                    ANTI-ASIAN HATE THAT'S SURGED OVER THE PAST YEAR.  OR 4,000, THE NUMBER

                    OF REPORTED ANTI-ASIAN RACIST INCIDENTS OVER OUR COUNTRY.  OR 62, THE

                    NUMBER OF HOUSE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS WHO VOTED AGAINST SENDING

                    THE SENATE'S ANTI-ASIAN HATE CRIMES BILL TO THE PRESIDENT FOR HIS

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    SIGNATURE.  APA HERITAGE MONTH ALSO IS SAYING WE SHOULD BE LOOKED AT

                    IN OUR ENTIRETY.  THE FACT THAT ONE IN FOUR ASIAN AMERICANS HERE IN OUR

                    STATE LIVES IN POVERTY.  THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE LARGEST-GROWING

                    UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY.  AND THE FACT THAT EVEN WITH OUR NEW ASIAN

                    AMERICAN MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE ELECTED THIS YEAR, WE ARE STILL THE MOST

                    UNDERREPRESENTED MINORITY GROUP.  THAT ALSO MEANS RECOGNIZING THE

                    NUMBERS THAT SHOW THE STRENGTH OF AN ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY

                    UNWILLING TO BE SILENCED.  EIGHTY-ONE PERCENT, THE RATE AT WHICH THE

                    AAPI COMMUNITY IN OUR COUNTRY GREW OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES,

                    MAKING ASIAN AMERICANS THE FASTEST-GROWING RACIAL GROUP IN AMERICA.

                    OR $783 BILLION, THE AMOUNT OF INCOME AAPI HOUSEHOLDS GENERATED FOR

                    OUR COUNTRY.  OR $584 BILLION, THE AMOUNT OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OUR

                    AAPI COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE PUT BACK INTO THE ECONOMY THROUGH

                    SPENDING POWER.

                                 BUT APA HERITAGE MONTH MEANS -- MEANS NOTHING IF

                    NOT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT IT NEEDS TO LOOK BEYOND THE ASIAN COMMUNITY

                    AS JUST NUMBERS AND DEMOGRAPHICS AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, BUT SEEING

                    US AS YOUR FRIENDS, AS YOUR FAMILY, AS YOUR NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY

                    MEMBERS.  IT MEANS CELEBRATING US AS NEW YORKERS WHO HAVE BEEN

                    THROUGH HELL AND STILL WAKE UP PROUD TO LIVE AND WORK HERE.

                                 I REALLY NEED TO THANK OUR SPEAKER FOR SUPPORTING THE

                    HISTORIC PASSAGE OF FUNDING IN OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET FOR DATA

                    DISAGGREGATION TO END THE PRACTICE OF RENDERING AAPI HOUSEHOLDS

                    INVISIBLE IN OUR STATE DATA, AS WELL AS FOR $10 MILLION TO SUPPORT

                    ANTI-HATE EFFORTS AND THE ORGANIZATIONS RISING UP TO COMBAT ANTI-ASIAN

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    BIGOTRY IN ALL OF ITS FORMS.  TOGETHER, WE ARE LETTING OUR STATE AND OUR

                    COUNTRY KNOW THAT WE ARE MORE THAN JUST A CENSUS POPULATION GROUP.

                    MORE THAN AN APA HERITAGE MONTH SPEECH.  MORE THAN THE HATE CRIMES

                    INFLICTED UPON US.

                                 ASIAN AMERICANS ARE NEW YORKERS AND AMERICANS,

                    AND WITHOUT US THIS WOULD NOT BE OUR BEAUTIFULLY DIVERSE NEW YORK OR

                    AMERICA.  I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN RAISING AWARENESS AND

                    SPREADING JOY AS WE MARK THIS ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN HERITAGE

                    MONTH.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MS.

                    NIOU.

                                 MR. KIM ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. KIM:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME

                    TO SPEAK ON THIS YEAR'S ASIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH RESOLUTION.  I

                    WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR PUTTING THIS RESOLUTION AGAIN THIS YEAR.

                    AND I WISH WE COULD JUST CELEBRATE OUR BACKGROUNDS, CULTURES OF

                    DIFFERENT ASIAN COMMUNITIES AND HAVE DELICIOUS FOOD AND IN OUR -- IN

                    OUR ASSEMBLY CHAMBER AND DO EXHIBITIONS AND DO ALL THE GOOD THINGS

                    THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.  BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME

                    AGAIN, ASIAN AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE BEING SCAPEGOATED,

                    TARGETED, VILIFIED AND DEMONIZED.  AND THIS IS A PATTERN THAT WE HAVE

                    SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS HISTORY -- THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY

                    FROM THE CHINESE AMERICANS WHO CAME HERE TO BUILD THE RAILROAD, TO

                    JAPANESE AMERICANS IN INTERMENT CAMPS, TO INDIVIDUALS LIKE VINCENT

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    CHIN, ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO IN MICHIGAN WHO WAS BEAT UP AND -- AND

                    KILLED BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT HE WAS A JAPANESE AMERICAN EVEN

                    THOUGH HE WAS CHINESE WHO TOOK AWAY JOBS AT THAT TIME IN DETROIT.

                    FOR EVERY TIME WE HAVE WITNESSED ECONOMIC, SOCIAL OR KIND OF

                    DOWNTURNS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ASIAN AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE

                    BEEN TARGETED OF A NUMBER OF CRIMES AND VIOLENCE.  AND INSTEAD OF US

                    JUST HAVE -- YOU KNOW, JUST RESPONDING WITH KNEE-JERK REACTIONS AND

                    TRYING TO JUST PUNISH THE CRIME, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

                    COLLECTIVELY STOP THE -- STOP THE VICIOUS CYCLE OF VIOLENCE.  WHERE IS THE

                    VIOLENCE COMING FROM?  WHERE'S THE HATRED COMING FROM?  IT'S EASY TO

                    JUST SAY, OH, WE CAUGHT THE PERPETRATORS, THE ATTACKERS, AND WE ARE

                    GOING TO PUNISH THE CRIME AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS AND CALL IT A DAY

                    AND CALL THAT A WIN.  BUT IT IS NOT A WIN.  WE NEED TO GO BEYOND HOLDING

                    PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE AND LOOK AT WHERE THE VIOLENCE IS COMING FROM.

                    AND THE VIOLENCE IS COMING FROM THE LACK OF INVESTMENTS INTO OUR

                    PEOPLE.  THE DECLINING SOCIAL CONDITIONS.  THE $40- TO $60- TO $80

                    BILLION OF LACK OF FUNDING IN OUR PUBLIC HOUSING.  TO THE FACT THAT IT

                    TOOK US MORE THAN TEN YEARS TO FULLY FUND THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.  THOSE ARE

                    THE AREAS WHERE WE MUST DO BETTER TO COLLECTIVELY COME TOGETHER AS --

                    AS ONE COMMUNITY.  AND AS ASIAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, INSTEAD

                    OF LETTING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE -- SOME OF THESE DARK TIMES AGAINST

                    ASIANS PIT US AGAINST OTHER COMMUNITIES, I ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO COME

                    TOGETHER AND FOCUS ON THESE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS TO GET THIS RIGHT.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND HAPPY ASIAN HERITAGE

                    MONTH.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 MR. MAMDANI.

                                 MR. MAMDANI:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION.  I RISE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS

                    RESOLUTION, AND THANKS TO THE SPONSOR AND THE AUTHOR OF THIS RESOLUTION.

                    AND I RISE ALSO AS THE FIRST SOUTH ASIAN MAN TO EVER BE WITHIN THIS

                    BODY AS A MEMBER.  AND I THINK OF AYESHA SIDDIQI'S QUOTE THAT SHE

                    ONCE WROTE MANY YEARS AGO, WHICH WAS, BE THE PERSON YOU NEEDED

                    WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER.  AND I THINK ABOUT GROWING UP IN THIS STATE

                    AND LOOKING AROUND IN OUR MUNICIPALITY AND OUR STATE GOVERNMENT AND

                    LOOKING DESPERATELY TO FIND SOME REFLECTION OF MYSELF, OF MY FRIENDS, OF

                    MY FAMILY, AND FINDING THE IMAGE THAT I WOULD ONLY SEE THAT LOOKED

                    ANYTHING LIKE US WAS THAT OF THE VILLAIN, TIME AND TIME AGAIN.  WHETHER

                    IT WAS IN HEARINGS IN RADICALIZATION, WHETHER IT WAS ON RHETORIC AROUND

                    ISLAM AND MUSLIMS OR THAT IT WAS SIMPLY IN THE ACTIONS OF ERASING OUR

                    COMMUNITIES IN EVERY WHICH WAY POSSIBLE.

                                 AND SO I'M EXTREMELY PROUD TO BE HERE TO SHOW THAT

                    YOUNG PERSON, ASIAN, MUSLIM, WHOEVER THEY MAY BE, THAT THERE IS A

                    PLACE FOR THEM IN THIS BODY.  THAT THERE'S A PLACE FOR THEM IN THIS STATE.

                    AND ALSO TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THE RISE IN ANTI-ASIAN VIOLENCE THAT HAS

                    BEEN HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF OUR COUNTRY.  AND MOST OF US

                    KNOW THIS IN THE VEIN OF INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE WHERE WE SEE SHOCKING

                    ACTS COMMITTED BY INDIVIDUALS IN PUBLIC.  ACTS WITH THE INTENTION OF

                    PUSHING ASIANS OUT OF THE PUBLIC SPHERE.  BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY

                    IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE STRUCTURAL VIOLENCE THAT OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    COMMITS AGAINST ASAIN COMMUNITIES ON A DAILY BASIS.  ASIANS HAVE THE

                    HIGHEST RATE OF POVERTY OF ANY ETHNIC GROUP IN NEW YORK CITY.  NORTH

                    OF -- NORTH OF A QUARTER OF ASIANS ARE IN POVERTY.  AND I THINK OF XING

                    LONG LIN, AN ASIAN AMERICAN DELIVERY MAN IN MY DISTRICT WHO WAS

                    KILLED LESS THAN A MONTH AGO, SPENT MORE THAN EIGHT TO TEN HOURS A DAY

                    DRIVING AROUND NEW YORK CITY STREETS ON HIS BICYCLE IN ORDER FOR

                    PEOPLE TO GET THE FOOD THAT THEY SO DESIRED.  AND HE WAS KILLED BY A CAR

                    THAT CAME INTO THE BIKE LANE.  AND HE WAS KILLED BECAUSE HIS LIFE AND

                    THE LIVES OF MANY OTHER IMMIGRANT CYCLISTS AND DELIVERY PEOPLE ARE NOT

                    VALUED BY THE CITY TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BUILD ANY

                    PROTECTIONS FOR THEM.  AND SO I BRING HIM UP TO SAY THAT GIVEN THE

                    REALITIES OF POVERTY IN OUR COMMUNITIES, GIVEN THE REALITIES OF ERASURE,

                    THE VIOLENCE THAT WE SEE IS NOT SIMPLY VIOLENCE THAT IS OUT OF OUR

                    CONTROL.  IT'S NOT SIMPLY VIOLENCE, AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM QUEENS SAID,

                    THAT WE CAN LOCK SOMEONE UP IN A CAGE AND THROW AWAY THE KEY.  IT'S

                    ALSO VIOLENCE THAT WE AID AND ABET BY NOT INVESTING IN OUR VERY

                    COMMUNITIES IN CHAMBERS SUCH AS THESE.  AND I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE

                    HAVE MADE A CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT WE INVEST THIS YEAR, AND I HOPE THAT

                    WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW ALONG THAT PATH.

                                 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE -- MS. -- MS. BICHOTTE

                    HERMELYN ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. BICHOTTE HERMELYN:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  ON THE RESOLUTION.  TODAY I STAND IN UNITY WITH MY FELLOW

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    COLLEAGUES IN SUPPORTING THE ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC HERITAGE MONTH.

                    I ALSO STAND WITH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES IN DENOUNCING ALL THE HATE CRIMES

                    AGAINST ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY

                    EXPERIENCING.  I HAVE PERSONAL -- HAVE A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE

                    ASIAN PACIFIC COUNTRIES AND ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICANS WHERE I SPENT SIX

                    YEARS IN KOREAN ART, THREE YEARS IN JAPAN AND CHINA WHERE I LEARNED A

                    LOT OF MY ENGINEERING AND TECHNICAL SKILLS, LEARNING THE CUSTOM AND --

                    AND BUSINESS PROTOCOLS.  ALSO LEARNING HOW TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE OF

                    JAPANESE AND LEARNING THE CHINESE CHARACTERS.  I ALSO HAD AN

                    OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO LEARN THE CULTURES OF SINGAPORE AND THAILAND AND

                    MALAYSIA.  AND HERE IN THE UNITED STATES I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST

                    BECAME A MEMBER OF THE CHINESE AMERICAN CLUB AT LAGUARDIA HIGH

                    SCHOOL OF MUSIC AND ART AND PERFORMING ARTS BACK IN THE LATE 80'S.

                    AND THAT'S BECAUSE, TO ME, I FEEL THAT MY CULTURE AND THEIR CULTURE, WE

                    SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME VALUES, GIVEN THAT MANY OF US CAME FROM THE

                    SAME POOR, THE SAME ETHNICITY, DISCRIMINATION, CAME BACK FROM -- CAME

                    FROM AN IMMIGRANT BACKGROUND.  AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MY

                    COLLEAGUES, MY ASIAN AMERICAN COLLEAGUES ARE GOING THROUGH.

                                 SO I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I STAND STRONGLY WITH MY

                    ASIAN AMERICAN COLLEAGUES, MY NEIGHBORS, MY BUSINESSOWNERS, MY

                    FORMER TEACHERS, MY FELLOW ENGINEERS, ALL.  I STAND REALLY STRONG IN

                    SUPPORT OF THE CULTURE, YOUR COUNTRIES, THE LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING.

                    AND SO PLEASE KNOW THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A FRIEND IN DENOUNCING

                    ALL OF THESE HATE CRIMES AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS.  SO I THANK YOU.

                    THANK YOU FOR THIS RESOLUTION OF THE ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC HERITAGE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    MONTH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.

                                 PAGE 4, CALENDAR NO. 338, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00299-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 338, GOTTFRIED, ABINANTI, SANTABARBARA, FAHY, ASHBY, SAYEGH,

                    DESTEFANO.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    INCLUDING APPLIED BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS UNDER STANDARD COVERAGE FOR

                    MEDICAID RECIPIENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    GOTTFRIED, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00386, CALENDAR NO.

                    339, JACOBSON, COLTON, REYES, DICKENS, GOTTFRIED, SAYEGH, GLICK,

                    FAHY, STECK, ABINANTI, KIM, CUSICK, MORINELLO, PERRY, HEVESI.  AN ACT

                    TO AMEND THE WORKERS' COMPENSATION LAW, IN RELATION TO IRREGULARITIES

                    IN A COVER SHEET ACCOMPANYING AN APPLICATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE

                    REVIEW OR FOR FULL BOARD REVIEW OR A REBUTTAL TO SUCH APPLICATIONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT A.386.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY, MEMBERS.

                                 MR. JACOBSON TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. JACOBSON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS

                    BILL WILL CORRECT AN INEQUITY, AN INJUSTICE THAT'S GOING ON IN THE

                    WORKERS' COMPENSATION BOARD THAT'S AFFECTING BOTH SIDES, WHETHER --

                    WHETHER IT'S THE CLAIMANT OR THE CARRIER.  DURING THE APPEALS PROCESS, IF

                    THE COVER SHEET HAS A MINOR ERROR OR OMISSION, THE BOARD HAS INSTITUTED

                    STRICT RULES THAT WOULD -- THAT DENIES THE APPEAL OR DENIES THE REBUTTAL,

                    AS THE CASE MAY BE.  WHAT THIS BILL WOULD DO IS TO HAVE THE BOARD EITHER

                    IGNORE SUCH DEFECT, OMISSION OR MISTAKE OR GIVE NOTICE TO THE -- TO THE

                    PARTY AND ALLOW THEM 20 DAYS TO CORRECT IT.  THIS BILL WOULD MAKE SURE

                    THAT LITIGANTS WOULD HAVE A FULL OPPORTUNITY TO STATE THEIR CASE, AND THAT

                    MINOR DEFECTS AND -- AND OMISSIONS WOULD NOT STAND IN THE WAY OF A

                    RULING ON THE MERITS.

                                 SO I THANK THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE WORK TO GET THIS TO

                    THE FLOOR AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE FOR IT.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00520-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 340, BRAUNSTEIN, GOTTFRIED, ZEBROWSKI, COOK, SEAWRIGHT, GALEF,

                    HEVESI, WEPRIN, L. ROSENTHAL, GRIFFIN, RODRIGUEZ, MONTESANO, FRIEND,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    BARRON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING THE MAKING AND/OR BROADCASTING OF

                    VISUAL IMAGES OF INDIVIDUALS UNDERGOING MEDICAL TREATMENT WITHOUT

                    PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00533, CALENDAR NO.

                    341, L. ROSENTHAL, COOK, SIMON, LAVINE, DICKENS, TAYLOR, SEAWRIGHT,

                    GOTTFRIED, J. RIVERA, WEPRIN, QUART, WALKER, PERRY, CARROLL,

                    RICHARDSON, CRUZ, COLTON, STECK, LUPARDO, CLARK, MEEKS,

                    GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, KELLES, OTIS, FORREST, FAHY MCDONALD.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A

                    PROGRAM FOR THE USE OF MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT FOR INMATES; AND

                    TO AMEND THE MENTAL HYGIENE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE IMPLEMENTATION

                    OF SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT AND TRANSITION SERVICES IN JAILS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00711, CALENDAR NO.

                    342, WALLACE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO REQUIRING THAT A HOMEOWNER BE PROVIDED A COST ESTIMATE FOR

                    INSTALLATION OF A FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00766, CALENDAR NO.

                    343, L. ROSENTHAL, AUBRY, GOTTFRIED, TAYLOR, SAYEGH, SIMON, COLTON,

                    REYES, DINOWITZ, SILLITTI, MAMDANI, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, RAMOS,

                    MITAYNES, FORREST, OTIS, NIOU.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE LIEN LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO EMPLOYEE LIENS; TO AMEND THE LABOR LAW, IN RELATION TO

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                    EMPLOYEE COMPLAINTS; TO AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN

                    RELATION TO GROUNDS FOR ATTACHMENT; TO AMEND THE BUSINESS CORPORATION

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO STREAMLINING PROCEDURES WHERE EMPLOYEES MAY

                    HOLD SHAREHOLDERS OF NON-PUBLICLY-TRADED CORPORATIONS PERSONALLY

                    LIABLE FOR WAGE THEFT; AND TO AMEND THE LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO CREATING A RIGHT FOR VICTIMS OF WAGE THEFT TO HOLD THE

                    TEN MEMBERS WITH THE LARGEST OWNERSHIP INTERESTS IN A COMPANY

                    PERSONALLY LIABLE FOR WAGE THEFT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A01008-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 344, PAULIN, OTIS, GALEF, PALMESANO.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC

                    SERVICE LAW, IN RELATION TO STORM HARDENING AND SYSTEM RESILIENCY

                    PLANS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 180TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT A.1008-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. PALMESANO TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. PALMESANO:  YES, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER

                    AND MY COLLEAGUES.  I RISE TO STAND UP HERE TO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION

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                    AND I WANTED TO THANK THE SPONSOR.  I BELIEVE THIS -- I'M PROUD TO

                    SUPPORT IT AND COSPONSOR THIS LEGISLATION.  I BELIEVE THIS LEGISLATION IS

                    LONG OVERDUE TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE STORM HARDENING AND

                    RESILIENCY OF OUR UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP ENSURE RELIABILITY FOR OUR

                    RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ACROSS THIS STATE.  THIS IS VERY CRITICALLY

                    IMPORTANT AT THIS TIME FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.  FIRST, WITH -- WITH MORE

                    RENEWABLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING ONLINE, WE NEED TO IMPROVE

                    THAT AND UPGRADE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO HAVE IT IN PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE

                    THAT AND TO IMPROVE, AGAIN, THE RELIABILITY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.  AND

                    CERTAINLY SECONDLY, AND NOT TO BE FORGOTTEN IS THE STORMS WE'VE SEEN

                    OVER THE LAST DECADE, WITH SANDY IN 2012, I BELIEVE SOME ESTIMATES WE

                    HAD $75 MILLION WORTH OF DAMAGE.  AND ISAIAS LAST YEAR WHICH AFFECTED

                    DOWNSTATE, I THINK $5 BILLION.  WE NEED TO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY

                    AND TRANSPARENCY, AND THIS IS GOING TO BRING TRANSPARENCY AND

                    ACCOUNTABILITY TO IT.  IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A COST BENEFITS AND ANALYSIS TO

                    SHOW HOW THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO HELP THE CUSTOMERS, THERE'S

                    SUPPOSED TO BE A TIMELINE IN PLACE.  PERFORMANCE BENCHMARKS THAT ARE

                    GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE AND THE RATE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE FOR

                    CUSTOMERS.  AND I THINK IN PAST THIS WOULD ONLY BE PART OF THE

                    TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION PART OF THE BILL WHEN THEY'RE DOING

                    OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.  I THINK SEPARATING THIS OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR

                    -- FOR THE HARDENING COSTS FOR THE STORM RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY IS

                    CRITICAL AND WILL HELP THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.  IT'S GOING TO JUST

                    PROCESS THROUGH THE PSC TO SHOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.  THERE'S

                    GOING TO BE THE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE TO DEMONSTRATE

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                    WHAT'S GOING TO -- WHAT'S BEING DONE.  AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF WORK THAT

                    WE NEED TO HAVE DONE.  YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY AND

                    THE HARDENING OF OUR LINES, IT'S ABOUT REPLACING THE DANGER TREES, GOING

                    ON CUSTOMERS' LAND AND REMOVE DANGER TREES, THE WIRES, THE POLES.

                    WHETHER WE SHOULD GO UNDERGROUND OR NOT.  TRANSFORMERS.  THOSE

                    TYPES OF MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE DEFINITELY NEEDED, AND

                    I THINK A PLAN LIKE THIS, A TEN-YEAR PLAN THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PUT IN

                    PLACE TO HELP AND PROVIDE THE WORK WE NEEDED TO BE DONE.

                                 FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE VOTING IN THE POSITIVE.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. PALMESANO IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A01370, CALENDAR NO.

                    345, SEAWRIGHT, PERRY, OTIS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL BUSINESS

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO THE PERSONAL INFORMATION OF A CREDIT OR DEBIT CARD

                    HOLDER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT A.1370.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

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                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02004, CALENDAR NO.

                    346, REYES, DICKENS, JEAN-PIERRE, GOTTFRIED, COOK, DE LA ROSA,

                    HYNDMAN, FRONTUS, JACOBSON, VANEL, PICHARDO, HUNTER, FALL, RAMOS,

                    CLARK, DINOWITZ, SEAWRIGHT, AUBRY, BARRON, SILLITTI, JACKSON, SEPTIMO.

                    AN ACT TO AMEND THE -- AN ACT TO DIRECT THE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIL STATE

                    SERVICE COMMISSION [SIC] TO CONDUCT A STUDY ON THE CURRENT CIVIL

                    SERVICE EXAMINATION PROCESS TO IDENTIFY AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS

                    TO IMPROVE CURRENT METHODOLOGIES USED REGARDING THE EXAMINATION

                    PROCESS TO ENSURE DIVERSITY IN RECRUITMENT AND HIRING IN THE PUBLIC

                    SECTOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    REYES, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 3070.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

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                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02030, CALENDAR NO.

                    347, L. ROSENTHAL, QUART, RICHARDSON, CARROLL, WEPRIN, SIMON,

                    GOTTFRIED, HEVESI, BARRON, STECK, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, BURGOS.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO MEDICATION FOR THE TREATMENT OF SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02251, CALENDAR NO.

                    348, SIMON, BARRON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO THE CLOSURE OF HOSPITALS OR EMERGENCY OR MATERNITY

                    DEPARTMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02330-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 349, JACOBSON, DICKENS, SIMON, REYES, THIELE, GALEF, GOTTFRIED,

                    STERN, ZEBROWSKI, COLTON, ENGLEBRIGHT, MAGNARELLI, L. ROSENTHAL,

                    BRABENEC, GUNTHER, LAVINE, RAMOS, SEAWRIGHT, HUNTER, AUBRY,

                    BARRETT, DINOWITZ, LUNSFORD, ANDERSON, BARRON, GLICK, JEAN-PIERRE,

                    GRIFFIN, STIRPE, BURDICK, CLARK.  AN ACT DIRECTING THE PUBLIC SERVICE

                    COMMISSION TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY AND THE COSTS OF BURYING ALL OR

                    MOST OF THE ELECTRICAL, TELEPHONE AND INTERNET TRANSMISSION LINES IN NEW

                    YORK STATE AND TO PUBLISH AND DELIVER A REPORT OF ITS FINDINGS TO THE

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                    GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE, AND REQUIRING NEW ELECTRICAL, TELEPHONE

                    AND INTERNET TRANSMISSION LINES TO BE BURIED UNDERGROUND.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 2330-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. JACOBSON TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. JACOBSON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  EVERY

                    TIME THERE'S A FORECAST OF A WINDSTORM, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SUMMER OR

                    THE WINTER, WE -- WE JUST LIVE IN FEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE POWER.

                    AND THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER

                    AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.  SO THIS BILL WILL -- WILL ALLOW THE

                    PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION -- DIRECT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO

                    STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF BURYING POWER LINES AND INTERNET PROVIDERS AND

                    TELEPHONE LINES.  I MEAN, AFTER THE BLIZZARD OF 1888 IN NEW YORK CITY,

                    MOST OF THE POWER LINES WERE -- WERE BURIED, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN SO FOR

                    THE REST OF THE STATE.  AND THE MONEY THAT WE SPENT THAT WAS OVER $2

                    BILLION SPENT BY UTILITIES IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, IT MAKES NO SENSE.  AND

                    ANOTHER ADVANTAGE WILL BE BY HAVING MORE LINES THAT ARE BURIED, IT WILL

                    PROMOTE RENEWABLE ENERGY.  OF COURSE, SOME OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIONS

                    TO RENEWABLE ENERGY IS NOT THE ENERGY, BUT IT'S THE TOWERS AND THE

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                    TRANSMISSION LINES GETTING IT TO WHERE IT'S NEEDED.

                                 SO THIS BILL HOPEFULLY WILL BE A START OF A

                    TRANSFORMATIVE POLICY CHANGE, AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU VOTE FOR IT.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL TO

                    EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  I WILL BE

                    SUPPORTING THIS STUDY, ALTHOUGH I AM HOPEFUL THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE

                    COMMISSION WILL DO A COST ANALYSIS BY LOCALITY AND MUNICIPALITY RATHER

                    THAN JUST A REPORT THAT GIVES US THE NUMBER FOR STATEWIDE.  OBVIOUSLY,

                    THE COST EFFICIENCY OF BURYING ELECTRICAL AND OTHER UTILITIES IN THE CITY OF

                    -- OF NEW YORK CITY IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE COST OF DOING IT PER

                    CUSTOMER UPSTATE WHERE YOU MAY HAVE LINES THAT RUN, YOU KNOW,

                    HALF-A-MILE, A MILE OR EVEN LONGER WITH A SINGLE CUSTOMER.  AND SO I'M

                    HOPEFUL THAT THE STUDY WILL BE ACCURATE ENOUGH SO THAT WE CAN MAKE

                    THOUGHTFUL DECISIONS BY EACH MUNICIPALITY RATHER THAN STATEWIDE.

                    OBVIOUSLY, IF IT'S THE STATEWIDE ISSUE IT CREATES TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS

                    BECAUSE IT WILL ABSOLUTELY KILL THE EXPANSION OF BROADBAND IN THE RURAL

                    AREAS IF THEY HAVE TO BURY THOSE CABLES.  IT'S ALREADY CLOSE TO BEING

                    COST-PROHIBITIVE.

                                 SO, I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE'S BILL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

                    A DETAILED STUDY.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. BURDICK.

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                                 MR. BURDICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I WISH TO

                    COMMEND THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS BILL.  PRIOR TO COMING

                    TO THE ASSEMBLY, I SERVED FOR SEVEN YEARS AS THE SUPERVISOR OF THE

                    TOWN OF BEDFORD AND WE WENT THROUGH MANY STORMS.  AND EVERY TIME

                    THE STORMS CAME OUT WE WERE ASKED BY RESIDENTS, WHAT'S BEING DONE TO

                    BURY THE LINES, AND WE HAD NO FIGURES AND WE STILL HAVE NO FIGURES AS TO

                    WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.  WE HAD VAGUE IDEAS THAT TO DO SO WOULD JUST

                    BE BANKRUPTING RATEPAYERS BECAUSE THE COST WOULD BE INCREDIBLY GREAT.

                    WELL, THIS WILL PROVIDE SOME ACTUAL HARD DATA THAT WE NEED TO MAKE

                    INTELLIGENT DECISIONS.

                                 SO, I'M COSPONSORING THIS BILL AND I AGAIN THANK THE

                    SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BURDICK IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. GOODELL, EXCEPTIONS?

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD

                    ASSEMBLYMEMBER DIPIETRO AND MR. WALCZYK IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02382, CALENDAR NO.

                    350, WEINSTEIN, GALEF, ZEBROWSKI, O'DONNELL, FAHY, PEOPLES-STOKES,

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                    L. ROSENTHAL, DINOWITZ, SEAWRIGHT, GLICK, WEPRIN, TAYLOR.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES AND THE JUDICIARY LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO CONSUMER CREDIT TRANSACTIONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02388-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 351, AUBRY, HYNDMAN, NIOU, CAHILL, L. ROSENTHAL, SEAWRIGHT,

                    THIELE, BARNWELL, BUTTENSCHON, CRUZ, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, OTIS, DICKENS.

                    AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO DIRECTING THE COMMISSIONERS OF EDUCATION AND HEALTH TO

                    ESTABLISH RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE TREATMENT AND MONITORING OF

                    STUDENTS OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BOARDS OF COOPERATIVE EDUCATIONAL SERVICES

                    AND NONPUBLIC SCHOOLS WHO EXHIBIT SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF SUDDEN

                    CARDIAC ARREST.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1ST.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 2388-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02439, CALENDAR NO.

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                    352, AUBRY.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO DIRECTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE STATE

                    STATE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION TO PUBLISH REPORTS RELATING TO DIVERSITY

                    WITHIN THE STATE GOVERNMENT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 2439.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD MY

                    COLLEAGUE MR. FITZPATRICK IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS BILL.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03149, CALENDAR NO.

                    353, HEVESI, GLICK, BARRON, COLTON, EPSTEIN, BUTTENSCHON, OTIS,

                    SANTABARBARA, SEAWRIGHT, REYES, GOTTFRIED.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    SOCIAL SERVICES LAW, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING FACTORS TO BE

                    CONSIDERED WHEN A HEALTHCARE PRACTITIONER UPON EXAMINATION HAS A

                    DIFFERENT OPINION FROM AN APPLICANT'S TREATING HEALTHCARE PRACTITIONER'S

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                    OPINION AS TO AN APPLICANT'S DISABILITY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03409, CALENDAR NO.

                    354, LAVINE, SEAWRIGHT, SANTABARBARA, BUTTENSCHON, OTIS, WEPRIN.  AN

                    ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING A TAX CREDIT FOR

                    UNIVERSAL VISITABILITY, AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS

                    UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03476, CALENDAR NO.

                    355, ABBATE, GRIFFIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL

                    SECURITY LAW, IN RELATION TO THE RETIREMENT OF MEMBERS WHO SERVE AS

                    POLICE MEDICS, POLICE MEDIC SUPERVISORS AND MEMBERS WHO PERFORM

                    POLICE MEDIC-RELATED SERVICES IN THE NASSAU COUNTY POLICE

                    DEPARTMENT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 3476.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03913-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 356, MCMAHON, MAGNARELLI, GRIFFIN, HUNTER, ENGLEBRIGHT,

                    BUTTENSCHON, GOTTFRIED, COLTON, TAYLOR, SANTABARBARA, SIMON,

                    B. MILLER, SILLITTI, STERN, JACOBSON, OTIS, PERRY, JACOBSON.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE LABOR LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING EMPLOYERS TO DISPLAY A

                    POSTER CONTAINING INFORMATION ON VETERANS' BENEFITS AND SERVICES WHICH

                    SHALL BE CREATED AND DISTRIBUTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1,

                    2022.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT A.3913-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  THIS LEGISLATURE

                    HAS A VERY STRONG AND PROUD RECORD SUPPORTING OUR VETERANS, AND THAT

                    CERTAINLY IS THE CASE FOR MY CONFERENCE IN PARTICULAR.  HOWEVER, THIS

                    BILL REQUIRES EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYER TO POST A POSTER EXPLAINING WHAT

                    MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN TERMS OF VETERAN BENEFITS.  AND I WILL BE VOTING

                    NO BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF VETERANS, IT DOESN'T

                    MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME TO REQUIRE EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYER, REGARDLESS OF

                    THEIR SIZE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY EVEN HAVE A VETERAN WHO IS

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                    WORKING THERE, TO HAVE TO POST A MANDATORY STATEMENT ABOUT VETERAN

                    BENEFITS AVAILABLE FOR EMPLOYEES.  NOW, I CAN TALK TO MY EMPLOYEE

                    WHO IS NOT A VETERAN AND I CAN TELL HER ABOUT THIS.  RIGHT NOW IN MY

                    PRIVATE OFFICE I HAVE ABOUT 12 SQUARE FEET OF POSTERS THAT ARE MANDATED

                    BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK.  I SHOULD SAY THAT'S 12 SQUARE FEET FOR MY

                    ONE PART-TIME EMPLOYEE IN MY PRIVATE OFFICE.  AND SO, YOU KNOW, AT

                    SOME POINT WE NEED TO DRAW THE LINE AND SAY, YEAH, WE LOVE THE

                    VETERANS.  WE WANT TO PROMOTE INFORMATION FOR THEM.  BUT DO WE REALLY

                    NEED TO MAKE THIS ANOTHER EMPLOYER MANDATE SUBJECT TO FINE AND

                    ENFORCEMENT, AND MY ANSWER ON THAT IS, LOVE YOU, VETERANS, BUT NO FOR

                    ME.

                                 THANKS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  MR. GOODELL IN

                    THE AFFIRMATIVE -- IN THE NEGATIVE.  MY APOLOGIES.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03960, CALENDAR NO.

                    357, CUSICK, LUPARDO, BLANKENBUSH, COLTON, WEPRIN, STERN, WALSH,

                    HUNTER, BUTTENSCHON, OTIS, SANTABARBARA, REILLY, SEAWRIGHT, FALL,

                    PALMESANO, STIRPE, MANKTELOW.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW AND THE

                    LABOR LAW, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A SMALL BUSINESS TAX CREDIT FOR

                    THE EMPLOYMENT OF DISABLED PERSONS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF

                    SUCH PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  THE BILL IS LAID

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                    ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04077, CALENDAR NO.

                    358, ABBATE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    RESOLUTION OF DISPUTES IN THE COURSE OF COLLECTIVE NEGOTIATIONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  ON A MOTION BY

                    MR. ABBATE, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04384, CALENDAR NO.

                    359, STIRPE, BUTTENSCHON, BARRON.  AN ACT AUTHORIZING THE EMPIRE STATE

                    DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO DEVELOP A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN

                    PROMOTING PERSONAL PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURING

                    BUSINESSES LOCATED IN NEW YORK STATE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  ON A MOTION BY

                    MR. STIRPE, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON SENATE BILL S.30.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE REMIND -- IS

                    REMINDED TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER'S OFFICE AT THE

                    NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD MY

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    COLLEAGUE MR. MIKE LAWLER IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04580, CALENDAR NO.

                    360 WAS AMENDED ON THIRD READING.


                                 ASSEMBLY NO. A04668, CALENDAR NO. 361, PEOPLES-

                    STOKES, J.D. RIVERA, JACOBSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW

                    AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO PRESCRIPTION DRUG FORMULARY

                    CHANGES DURING A CONTRACT YEAR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  ON A MOTION BY

                    MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE

                    BILL IS ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04685-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 362, PHEFFER AMATO.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW,

                    IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING GENERAL HOSPITALS FROM DISALLOWING

                    INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES FROM HAVING AN ESSENTIAL SUPPORT PERSON

                    ACCOMPANY THEM FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR HOSPITALIZATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  THE BILL IS LAID

                    ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04905, CALENDAR NO.

                    363, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    PROVIDING IDENTIFICATION CARDS TO INMATES UPON RELEASE FROM

                    INCARCERATION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  THE BILL IS LAID

                    ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04947, CALENDAR NO.

                    364, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, REYES, GRIFFIN, MEEKS, COLTON, ZINERMAN.

                    AN ACT TO AMEND THE PENAL LAW, IN RELATION TO CRIMES INVOLVING THE

                    DEATH OR INJURY OF A WORKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 30TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER PICHARDO:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY BILL 4947.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER'S OFFICE AT THE NUMBERS

                    PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD

                    ASSEMBLYMEMBER FRIEND IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.  SO

                    NOTED.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05401, CALENDAR NO.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    365, MCDONALD.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO TERMINAL

                    RENTAL ADJUSTMENT CLAUSES IN MOTOR VEHICLE LEASES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT A.5401.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05830-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 366, DINOWITZ.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PENAL LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    UNLAWFULLY INSTALLING A GAS METER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    DINOWITZ, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 328-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

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                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06155-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 367, MAGNARELLI, FAHY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO PERMITTING SIGNS, PLACARDS OR OTHER DISPLAYS TO

                    PROVIDE NOTICE THAT SCHOOL BUS PHOTO VIOLATION MONITORING SYSTEMS ARE

                    IN USE; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS UPON THE

                    EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 30TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 6155-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06158-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 368, WALLACE.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 698 OF THE LAWS OF 1991

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    AMENDING THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW AND THE EDUCATION LAW, RELATING

                    TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND FINANCING OF FACILITIES BY THE DORMITORY

                    AUTHORITY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLS APPROVED PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 89 OF THE

                    EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO INCLUDING NYSARC, INC., ERIE COUNTY

                    CHAPTER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 6158-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06193, CALENDAR NO.

                    369, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, O'DONNELL, SEAWRIGHT, CARROLL, J. RIVERA,

                    EPSTEIN, KELLES, JACKSON, SILLITTI, BURDICK, BRONSON, DINOWITZ, WEPRIN,

                    FAHY, HEVESI, CRUZ.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC SERVICE LAW AND THE

                    GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING UTILITY CORPORATIONS,

                    MUNICIPALITIES, WATERWORKS CORPORATIONS AND TELEPHONE SERVICE

                    PROVIDERS TO ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO USE THEIR PREFERRED NAME AND

                    PRONOUNS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06198-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 370, PAULIN, FAHY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PENAL LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    THE PURCHASE AND DISPOSAL OF FIREARMS, RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06337-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 371, GUNTHER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE LABOR LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    NOTIFYING INDIVIDUALS APPLYING FOR AND RECEIVING UNEMPLOYMENT

                    BENEFITS OF RENTAL, MORTGAGE, FOOD AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 6337-B.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06429-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 372, HYNDMAN, GALEF, DICKENS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC

                    HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING HOSPITALS DISTRIBUTE LITERATURE

                    CREATED BY THE COMMISSIONER TO PATIENTS AT A HIGH RISK OF SICKLE CELL

                    DISEASE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 6429-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 MS. HYNDMAN TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. HYNDMAN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  AS WE KNOW, SICKLE CELL DISEASE

                    PREDOMINANTLY AFFECTS AFRICAN-AMERICANS, AND IF YOU WERE BORN BEFORE

                    2006 MOST LIKELY YOU WERE NOT TESTED FOR THIS -- THIS DISEASE.  YOU MAY

                    NOT EVEN KNOW YOU HAVE A SICKLE CELL TRAIT, AND FOR THOSE -- THOSE NEW

                    YORKERS NOT BORN IN THIS STATE MAY VERY WELL BE AFFECTED.  THAT IS WHY

                    THIS LITERATURE IS SO IMPORTANT.  I WANT TO THANK THE -- THE CHAIR OF THE

                    HEALTH COMMITTEE AND THE STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK, AS WELL AS MY

                    STAFF FOR GETTING THIS TO THIS POINT AND I WILL BE VOTING IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. HYNDMAN IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.  THANK YOU, MA'AM.

                                 MR. BARRON TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. BARRON:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.

                    I WANT TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR OF THIS BILL TREMENDOUSLY FOR HER

                    CONTINUING TO PUT EMPHASIS AND BRING ATTENTION TO SICKLE CELL ANEMIA.  I

                    AM EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH THIS AND APPRECIATIVE OF IT

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    BECAUSE THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY -- THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES IN THE

                    1960'S THAT THE BLACK PANTHERS PUT A GREAT AMOUNT OF EMPHASIS ON

                    BECAUSE THIS DISEASE WAS PECULIARLY AFFECTING THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

                    SO FOR YOU TO CONTINUE THAT WORK AND TO SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT, I JUST

                    WANT TO HIGHLY COMMEND YOU AND THE CHAIR OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE

                    FOR SEEING THE IMPORTANCE OF BRINGING ATTENTION TO SICKLE CELL ANEMIA.

                    THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN THE 21ST CENTURY THAT WE NOT IGNORE THIS

                    DISEASE AND DO ALL TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON IT AND GET THE PROPER RESOURCES

                    TO DEAL WITH IT.

                                 SO I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BARRON IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06466, CALENDAR NO.

                    373, ROZIC, MITAYNES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE WORKERS' COMPENSATION

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING LANGUAGE ACCESS SERVICES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06528-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 374, BRAUNSTEIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO ADVANCE ENROLLMENT OF CERTAIN STUDENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 6528-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06652, CALENDAR NO.

                    375, ENGLEBRIGHT, GRIFFIN, BURDICK, STERN, SIMON, GALEF, THIELE, STECK,

                    DICKENS, COLTON, L. ROSENTHAL, ABINANTI, DINOWITZ, BURKE, MCMAHON,

                    KELLES, WEPRIN, GLICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE PROTECTION OF CERTAIN STREAMS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06666, CALENDAR NO.

                    376, JOYNER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE LABOR LAW, IN RELATION TO THE

                    RECOVERY OF OVERPAYMENTS OF UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS; AND TO REPEAL

                    CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF SUCH LAW RELATING THERETO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06750-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 377, BENEDETTO, GUNTHER, OTIS, MCDONALD, DICKENS.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE GRANTING OF TENURE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BENEDETTO, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 5576-C.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06772, CALENDAR NO.

                    378, JOYNER, ENGLEBRIGHT.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE LABOR LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITY DATA TRANSPARENCY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    JOYNER, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 2802.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06968, CALENDAR NO.

                    379, MAGNARELLI, BARRETT, WALLACE, FAHY, CUSICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION TO EXEMPTING CERTAIN MEMBERS OF

                    THE ARMED FORCES DEPENDENTS TO OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE OR MOTORCYCLE

                    ON THE PUBLIC HIGHWAYS OF THIS STATE WITHOUT BEING LICENSED IN NEW

                    YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 6968.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07023, CALENDAR NO.

                    380, ABBATE.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 929 OF THE LAWS OF 1986

                    AMENDING THE TAX LAW AND OTHER LAWS RELATING TO THE METROPOLITAN

                    TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING CERTAIN PROVISIONS

                    THEREOF APPLICABLE TO THE RESOLUTION OF LABOR DISPUTES.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07122, CALENDAR NO.

                    381, LUPARDO, PAULIN, STIRPE, THIELE, ZEBROWSKI, OTIS, RICHARDSON,

                    GALEF, SCHMITT, ANGELINO, TAGUE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE AGRICULTURE

                    AND MARKETS LAW, IN RELATION TO ANIMAL RESPONSE TEAMS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7122.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07124, CALENDAR NO.

                    382, JOYNER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW AND THE

                    RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY LAW, IN RELATION TO INCREASING CERTAIN

                    SPECIAL ACCIDENTAL DEATH BENEFITS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1, 2021.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7124.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. LAWLER TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I WANT TO

                    THANK THE SPONSOR FOR PUTTING THIS BILL FORWARD.  IT'S A -- IT'S A REMINDER

                    OF THE SACRIFICE THAT IS -- HAS TRAGICALLY BEEN MADE BY MEMBERS OF THE

                    LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

                    LAST WEEK WAS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION WEEK.  UNFORTUNATELY,

                    THIS BODY DID NOT CHOOSE TO COMMEMORATE THAT WITH A RESOLUTION.  BUT

                    I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THIS BILL AS WE PASS LEGISLATION

                    TO INCREASE THE BENEFITS PAID TO SURVIVING SPOUSES OR CHILDREN, TO

                    RECOGNIZE THE SERVICE AND THE SACRIFICE OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT

                    COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO THANK THEM ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK AND THE STATE ASSEMBLY FOR THEIR DEDICATED SERVICE

                    TO OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. LAWLER IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MS. GLICK TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. GLICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I CERTAINLY

                    BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY, THEIR FAMILIES ARE

                    DESERVING OF ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, BUT I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD ALSO

                    INCLUDE DOMESTIC PARTNERS.

                                 SO I WITHDRAW MY REQUEST AND VOTE IN THE NEGATIVE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. GLICK IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD MY

                    COLLEAGUE ASSEMBLYMEMBER SCHMITT IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I APOLOGIZE.  MR. SCHMITT WOULD

                    LIKE TO BE YES ON THAT.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED, MR.

                    GOODELL.

                                 MR. DILAN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. DILAN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I ALSO WOULD

                    VOTE IN THE NEGATIVE WITH THE SAME LINE OF THINKING AS MY COLLEAGUE

                    FROM MANHATTAN.  I BELIEVE ALSO DOMESTIC PARTNERS SHOULD BE INCLUDED.

                    THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  MR. DILAN

                    IN THE NEGATIVE.

                                 MS. SIMON TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. SIMON:  YES.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  TO

                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  I WILL ALSO BE VOTING IN THE NEGATIVE FOR THE SAME

                    REASONS MENTIONED BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM MANHATTAN.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. SIMON IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                      MAY 19, 2021

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES,

                    PLEASE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  IF YOU COULD RECORD OUR

                    COLLEAGUES MR. BARRON AND MR. DINOWITZ IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS ONE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07290, CALENDAR NO.

                    383, ENGLEBRIGHT, BURDICK, STECK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO BIOHEATING FUEL REQUIREMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7290.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD

                    ASSEMBLYMAN DIPIETRO IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS BILL.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

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                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07358, CALENDAR NO.

                    384, ABINANTI.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE MENTAL HYGIENE LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO THE APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES

                    ADVISORY COUNCIL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    ABINANTI, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07387, CALENDAR NO.

                    385, JONES, BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE

                    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION TO ADOPT REGULATIONS FOR

                    HUNTING IN THE NORTHERN ZONE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7387.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU

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                    COULD PLEASE RECORD OUR COLLEAGUE MR. DINOWITZ IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS

                    ONE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK YOU

                    VERY MUCH.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07392, CALENDAR NO.

                    386, ENGLEBRIGHT, BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE

                    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION TO MANAGE AMERICAN

                    LOBSTER; AND TO AMEND CHAPTER 305 OF THE LAWS OF 2013 AMENDING THE

                    ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, RELATING TO THE MANAGEMENT OF

                    AMERICAN LOBSTER, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7392.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07393, CALENDAR NO.

                    387, ENGLEBRIGHT, BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE

                    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION TO MANAGED STRIPED BASS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7393.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBER PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07394, CALENDAR NO.

                    388, LUNSFORD, BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE

                    DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION TO MANAGE MONKFISH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7394.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WISHING TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO CONTACT

                    THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD

                    ASSEMBLYMAN FRIEND IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS LEGISLATION.  THANK YOU,

                    SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU, SIR.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07396, CALENDAR NO.

                    389, BURDICK, ENGLEBRIGHT.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 122 OF THE LAWS

                    OF 2000, AMENDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW RELATING TO

                    AUTHORIZING SWEEPSTAKES WITH RESPECT TO SUBSCRIPTIONS TO "THE

                    CONSERVATIONIST", IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7396.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD MR.

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                    FRIEND IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07435, CALENDAR NO.

                    390, JONES, BRONSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 118 OF THE LAWS OF

                    2012 AMENDING THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL LAW RELATING TO THE

                    POWERS OF THE CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE AUTHORITY, IN RELATION TO

                    THE EFFECTIVENESS OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 7435.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU

                    COULD RECORD OUR COLLEAGUE MR. BARRON IN THE NEGATIVE ON ASSEMBLY

                    BILL 7435.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, COLLEAGUES,

                    IF WE CAN NOW TURN OUR ATTENTION TO THE DEBATE LIST THAT IS ON YOUR DESK.

                    AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH CALENDAR NO. 2 BY MS. ROZIC.  THEN

                    WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CALENDAR NO. 200 BY MS. REYES.  AND THEN

                    CALENDAR NO. 251 BY MR. MCDONALD, FOLLOWED BY CALENDAR NO. 4 --

                    NO, CALENDAR NO. 270 BY MR. CUSICK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU SO MUCH.

                                 PAGE 15, CALENDAR NO. 2, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00477, CALENDAR NO.

                    2, ROZIC, AUBRY, DE LA ROSA, GALEF, JEAN-PIERRE, NOLAN, SEAWRIGHT,

                    EPSTEIN, RODRIGUEZ, TAYLOR, CRUZ, SIMON, GRIFFIN, PICHARDO, DICKENS,

                    COOK, FERNANDEZ, OTIS, REYES, WALLACE, COLTON, BARRON.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN RELATION TO GENDER BALANCE IN

                    STATE AND LOCAL PUBLIC AUTHORITIES; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH

                    PROVISIONS UPON THE EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  AN EXPLANATION, PLEASE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. ROZIC, MS.

                    WALSH ASKED FOR AN EXPLANATION.

                                 MS. ROZIC:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS BILL

                    WOULD AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW TO ESTABLISH PREFERENCE FOR

                    WOMEN TO BE APPOINTED TO STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITY BOARDS.  A ROUGH

                    ESTIMATE IS THAT ONLY AROUND 20 PERCENT OF NEW YORK STATE AND LOCAL

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                    AUTHORITY BOARDS ARE MADE UP OF WOMEN.  I WILL GIVE YOU SOME

                    EXAMPLES.  THE MTA, OUT OF THE 22-MEMBER BOARD, ONLY FIVE ARE

                    WOMEN.  THE THRUWAY AUTHORITY, OUT OF A SEVEN-PERSON BOARD ONLY

                    TWO ARE WOMEN.  THE LONG ISLAND POWER AUTHORITY, ONLY -- OUT OF NINE

                    TRUSTEES, ONLY ONE IS A WOMAN.  AND THERE ARE VARIOUS IDAS AND LDCS

                    AROUND THE STATE THAT HAVE EVEN WORSE STATISTICS, AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. ROZIC, WILL YOU

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  YES, I WILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU SO MUCH.  SO, I HAVE A FEW

                    QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS BILL IS ATTEMPTING TO

                    DO.  WHAT KINDS OF BOARDS WOULD THIS LEGISLATION APPLY TO?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  SO IT'S GENERALLY PUBLIC AUTHORITY BOARDS

                    ACROSS THE STATE.  THAT INCLUDES LDCS, IDAS AND OTHER LARGER POWER --

                    PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LIKE THE MTA, LIKE LIPA, THE THRUWAY AUTHORITY.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  SO WHAT ABOUT, LIKE -- JUST TO

                    RULE THEM OUT -- ZONING BOARDS, PLANNING BOARDS, SAY, AT THE -- AT THE

                    LOCAL LEVEL?  WOULD -- WOULD IT APPLY TO THEM AS WELL OR NO?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  IF THEY'RE NOT DEFINED IN THE LAW AS A

                    PUBLIC AUTHORITY THEN THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS LAW.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  SO SOMETHING LIKE A WATER

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                    AUTHORITY OR A SEWER AUTHORITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE

                    ENCOMPASSED BY THIS LEGISLATION.  VERY GOOD.  OKAY.

                                 SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD WORK.

                    THIS BILL, IT -- IT DEALS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, AND IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH

                    APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  YES.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  SO -- AND THERE'S A PREFERENCE

                    THAT'S CREATED FOR WOMEN TO BE RECOMMENDED AND APPOINTED TO THESE

                    AUTHORITY BOARDS, AND THE MORE -- IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE MORE LOPSIDED

                    THE BOARD IS, THE GREATER THE PREFERENCE IS, IS THAT CORRECT?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  YES.  IT WOULD REQUIRE AN APPOINTING

                    POWER TO GIVE PREFERENCES -- TO GIVE PREFERENCE TO WOMEN CANDIDATES,

                    TO FEMALE CANDIDATES, WITH THE WEIGHT OF SUCH PREFERENCE DEPENDING

                    ON, LIKE YOU SAID, THE GENDER DISPARITY.  I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT IS

                    PREFERENCE AND NOT THE ONLY QUALIFICATION.  SO IT'S NOT JUST POSITIVE.  IT'S

                    A NUMBER OF THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN LOOKING AT THE CANDIDATES

                    THAT ARE APPLYING FOR A PUBLIC AUTHORITY POSITION.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  SO SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S

                    HELPFUL TO JUST DEAL WITH A FEW HYPOTHETICALS SO THAT WE CAN GET A FEEL

                    FOR HOW THIS WOULD WORK.  SO LET'S SAY THAT WE HAVE AN AUTHORITY THAT

                    HAS SEVEN MEMBERS AND THEY'RE ALL MEN.  AND THERE'S ONE GENTLEMAN

                    WHO HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A LONG TIME, A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEMBER

                    OF THE BOARD.  HIS TERM IS COMING TO AN END.  FIRST QUESTION:  COULD ANY

                    MALE NAMES BE SUBMITTED TO FILL THAT SOON-TO-BE-VACANCY OF THAT

                    EXPIRING TERM?

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                                 MS. ROZIC:  YES.

                                 MS. WALSH:  GREAT.  COULD THAT -- EVEN THOUGH

                    THAT'S A COMPLETELY MALE BOARD YOU COULD STILL PUT UP A NAME OF A MAN

                    FOR THAT BOARD?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  CORRECT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  SO, DOES THAT ALSO MEAN THAT

                    THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS IN THERE CURRENTLY, THAT'S COMING UP TO THE END OF

                    HIS TERM, HE COULD BE SELECTED TO -- TO DO ANOTHER TERM?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  AGAIN, GENDER IS JUST ONE OF THE

                    QUALIFICATIONS.  IT IS A PREF -- A PREFERRED QUALIFICATION, BUT IT IS NOT THE

                    SOLE DECIDING FACTOR OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS GENTLEMAN WOULD BE

                    REAPPOINTED OR WHETHER YOU WOULD APPOINT SOMEONE NEW.  I WOULD

                    ALSO SAY THAT IN THE LEGISLATION IT REQUIRES A LOCAL OR A STATE PUBLIC

                    AUTHORITY BOARD TO DO DUE DILIGENCE AND GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY

                    ARE FINDING THE BEST RESUMES THAT THEY CAN, THE BEST CANDIDATES THAT THEY

                    CAN, AND OFTENTIMES YOU WILL FIND THAT THOSE ARE WOMEN.

                                 MS. WALSH:  YEAH, AND I HAVE ABSOLUTE -- JUST --

                    JUST TO GET RIGHT OUT THERE, I HAVE NO ISSUE AT ALL WITH THE IDEA OF CASTING

                    A WIDE NET TO TRY TO BRING IN A DIVERSE POOL OF TALENT TO TRY TO FILL ANY OF

                    THESE VACANCIES.  I THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE AND I

                    THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF THE BOARD.  I JUST -- I'M A

                    LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU -- WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION

                    GENERICALLY WHERE IF A BOARD IS VERY LOPSIDED IT -- IT MAKES THE

                    PREFERENCE THAT MUCH STRONGER.  I THOUGHT THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD SAID.

                                 MS. ROZIC:  IT'S A PREFERENCE.  AND AGAIN, IT'S TO THE

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                    DISCRETION OF THE LOCAL APPOINTING AUTHORITY.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  SO LET'S JUST -- IF WE COULD JUST

                    TURN -- TURN YOUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT -- WHERE I THINK MOST

                    OF MY CONFUSION, I GUESS, COMES FROM IS PAGE 2, SECTION 4 OF THE BILL,

                    WHICH SAYS, AN APPOINTING POWER SHALL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS,

                    APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES

                    CREATED PRIOR TO ON OR AFTER AUGUST 1, 2021 IN A MANNER WHICH WILL

                    ENSURE A GENDER-BALANCED APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT FOR EACH

                    PUBLIC AUTHORITY.  SO HOW DOES SECTION 4 JIVE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID

                    WHERE IT'S -- YOU MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT MAN COULD --

                    COULD SERVE ANOTHER TERM, BUT THAT -- BUT HAVING HIM SERVE ANOTHER TERM

                    IS NOT GOING TO, UNDER SECTION 4, ENSURE A GENDER-BALANCED

                    REAPPOINTMENT FOR THAT PUBLIC AUTHORITY.

                                 MS. ROZIC:  RIGHT.  I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT IS

                    PREFERENCE, IT'S NOT A DISPOSITIVE ASSUMPTION.  AND SO WE WANT TO GIVE

                    DISCRETION TO LOCAL APPOINTING AUTHORITIES, BUT WE ALSO WANT THEM TO --

                    WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO OUT INTO THE WORLD AND GET THE BEST

                    CANDIDATES THAT THEY CAN.

                                 MS. WALSH:  SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, THEN, IS WHY

                    ISN'T THE BILL WORDED IN SUCH A WAY WHERE ONLY THE RECOMMENDATIONS

                    NEED TO BE, SAY, GENDER-BALANCED, BUT IT SPECIFICALLY, INSTEAD, SAYS NOT

                    JUST RECOMMENDATIONS BUT APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS NEED TO

                    BE GENDER-BALANCED?  MUST -- I THINK WILL BE -- WILL ENSURE IS THE -- THE

                    LANGUAGE IN THE BILL.

                                 MS. ROZIC:  AGAIN, WE WANT -- WE WANT THERE TO BE

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                    PREFERENCE TOWARDS WOMEN CANDIDATES FOR THESE PUBLIC AUTHORITY

                    BOARDS.  WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE BEST APPROACH TO DO THAT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  VERY GOOD.

                                 IS THERE ANY PROVISION IN THE BILL THAT DEALS WITH, SAY, A

                    DEARTH OF -- YOU KNOW, DESPITE A REALLY BIG SEARCH, A DEARTH OF WOMEN

                    APPLICANTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON A BOARD?  I UNDERSTAND

                    SOMETHING BIG MAYBE LIKE THE MTA OR SOME OF THE BOARDS THAT YOU

                    LISTED THAT ARE MORE DOWNSTATE THAT I -- I, YOU KNOW, READ ABOUT IN THE

                    PAPER BUT DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT.  I'M THINKING MORE ABOUT

                    LIKE MY LOCAL WATER AUTHORITY.  SOMETHING LIKE THAT.  I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO

                    GET PEOPLE TO SERVE THESE DAYS AT ALL, YOU KNOW, ON SOME OF THESE

                    BOARDS.  WHAT HAPPENS OR WHAT DOES THE BILL SAY, IF ANYTHING, ABOUT JUST

                    DOING A REALLY DILIGENT SEARCH AND JUST NOT COMING UP WITH ANYBODY

                    WHO IS A WOMAN WHO WANTS TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD?  IS THAT -- IS THAT

                    OKAY UNDER THE BILL?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  YOU KNOW, I WOULD FIND THAT SCENARIO

                    HARD TO BELIEVE.  I -- I KNOW OF MANY WOMEN ACROSS THE STATE WHO ARE

                    READY, WILLING AND ABLE TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND WE JUST WANT TO OPEN UP

                    MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  WELL, I -- I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE

                    SAYING.  THAT -- THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT YOU -- YOU GOT TO COME UP TO MY

                    NECK OF THE WOODS AND SEE HOW -- HOW IT REALLY IS.  IT'S -- IT'S --

                    ESPECIALLY YOU GET INTO SOME -- SOME RURAL AREAS, OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT

                    SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE -- PEOPLE ARE WORKING.  PEOPLE ARE WORKING

                    THEIR REAL JOBS.  THESE -- THIS WOULDN'T BE A -- THIS WOULD BE LIKE A

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                    VOLUNTEER POSITION ON AN IDA.  YOU DON'T GET PAID FOR THAT, AT LEAST

                    WHERE I'M FROM.  IT'S -- YOU'RE SERVING ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS AND IT CAN

                    TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME.  AND SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY HARD TO FIND PEOPLE

                    WHO ARE GOING TO BE WILLING TO SERVE.  AGAIN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM AT ALL

                    WITH THE IDEA OF LOOKING, BUT THE BILL IS SILENT, I GUESS, AS TO WHAT

                    HAPPENS IF YOU CAN'T FIND ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR KIND OF YOU JUST SAYING

                    FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU JUST FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE.  SO I -- I GET -- I GET

                    WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

                                 THE -- THE BILL DOESN'T DEAL WITH ANY OTHER PROTECTED

                    CLASS LIKE RACE OR NATIONAL ORIGIN OR ANY OTHER PROTECTIVE CLASS.  IT JUST --

                    IT ONLY DEALS WITH GENDER, IS THAT CORRECT?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  CORRECT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.

                                 MS. ROZIC:  AND I WOULD WELCOME ANY OTHER

                    LEGISLATIVE BILL THAT WOULD TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.  I'M HAPPY TO

                    SUPPORT THOSE AS WELL.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  ALL RIGHT.  SO UNDER THE -- THE

                    U.S. SUPREME COURT HAD A -- A CASE CALLED U.S. V. VIRGINIA, HAVING TO

                    DO WITH THE -- THE ACADEMY.  AND IT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT -- IT'S

                    INTERESTING, RUTH BADER GINSBURG WROTE THE DECISION, BUT I GUESS THE

                    DECISION WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR AND SHE -- SHE

                    DECIDED THAT RUTH BADER GINSBURG, BECAUSE OF HER BACKGROUND, OUGHT

                    TO WRITE THAT OPINION.  BUT ANYWAY, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED IN U.S.

                    V. VIRGINIA IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXCEEDINGLY PERSUASIVE

                    JUSTIFICATION FOR ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WHICH IS AN

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                    AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO GET A MORE GENDER-DIVERSE BOARD.  SO, BOARDS ARE

                    GENERALLY BECOMING MORE DIVERSE OVER TIME.  WOULD YOU AGREE WITH

                    THAT OR DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE CASE?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  I MEAN, BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT I

                    JUST READ TO YOU AT THE TOP I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.  AND --

                    AND WE'VE TAILORED THIS LEGISLATION NARROWLY IN ORDER TO IMPACT STATE

                    AND LOCAL PUBLIC AUTHORITY BOARDS BECAUSE THE NUMBERS BARE OUT SUCH

                    AN EGREGIOUS PERCENTAGE OF DISPARITY.

                                 MS. WALSH:  IF -- IF THE -- IF THE LANGUAGE IS SAYING

                    THAT IT'S REALLY JUST GOING TO BE AT THE SOUND DISCRETION OF THE APPOINTING

                    AUTHORITY, BUT THAT YOU WANT TO PUT FORWARD THE NAMES OF WOMEN

                    APPLICANTS FOR THESE BOARD POSITIONS, WHY HAVE IT SUNSET IN TEN YEARS IF

                    IT'S GOING TO BE THAT DISCRETIONARY?  DO YOU -- DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE

                    GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN A SEVEN-PERSON BOARD -- I GUESS THAT WOULD --

                    I GUESS I SHOULD USE AN EVEN NUMBER.  AN EIGHT-PERSON BOARD, YOU'RE

                    GOING TO GET FOUR WOMEN AND FOUR MEN OVER THE COURSE OF TEN YEARS?

                                 MS. ROZIC:  I'D LOVE TO COME BACK IN 2029 AND TELL

                    YOU THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE TO DO A BILL LIKE THIS, AND I HOPE THAT THAT'S

                    THE CASE.  AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SUNSET ON IT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  ALL RIGHT.  I THINK -- THANK YOU

                    VERY MUCH FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE HAD.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, MA'AM.

                                 MS. WALSH:  SO LIKE I SAID, I REALLY THINK THAT, YOU

                    KNOW, DIVERSITY ON BOARDS IS -- IS A GOOD THING.  IT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL

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                    THING.  I THINK THAT JUST AS WE'VE SEEN HERE IN THIS BODY, WE'VE HIT A NEW

                    HIGH IN THE, I THINK, IN THE SENATE AND IN THE ASSEMBLY IN TERMS OF THE

                    NUMBER OF WOMEN THAT ARE HERE.  AND I KNOW THAT WHEN THE SPEAKER

                    MADE HIS OPENING REMARKS AT THE BEGINNING OF SESSION HE MENTIONED

                    THAT.  WE ALL THOUGHT -- WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING.

                    AND WE WANT TO SEE WOMEN BRING THEIR TALENTS AND BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE

                    AND RISE TO -- RISE TO THE LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO SERVE ON SOME OF THESE

                    BOARDS.  SOME ARE VERY INFLUENTIAL BOARDS IN OUR STATE.  I'M OKAY WITH

                    ALL OF THAT.  I'M OKAY WITH A BILL THAT -- THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO MAKE

                    RECOMMENDATIONS OF WOMEN AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK HARD TO TRY TO FIND

                    WOMEN WHO ARE GOING TO BE WILLING AND ABLE AND QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON

                    THESE BOARDS.  I THINK WHERE I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BILL IS THAT

                    SECTION THAT I READ OFF, THAT SECTION 4, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF -- IF YOU

                    REALLY READ THAT SECTION, DESPITE THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE SPONSOR,

                    WHAT IT -- WHAT IT REALLY SAYS, I THINK, IS THAT THAT GUY WHO SERVED ON

                    THAT BOARD FOR A LONG TIME IS GOING TO BE REALLY OUT OF LUCK WHEN HIS

                    TERM BECOMES DUE.  I THINK HE'S GOING TO GET REPLACED.  AND I THINK THAT

                    THAT, OVERALL, MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD THING AT ALL FOR THE BOARD.  I THINK

                    ANOTHER THING THAT WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT SOME EFFORTS - AND

                    WE'RE SEEING THIS IN PRIVATE BUSINESS - ARE BEING MADE VOLUNTARILY, AND

                    I THINK THAT'S THE BETTER WAY.  RATHER THAN HAVING LEGISLATION AND A

                    MANDATE PUT IN THROUGH A PIECE OF LEGISLATION LIKE THIS, I THINK THAT IT'S

                    BETTER TO USE PERSUASION.  I THINK THAT -- YOU KNOW, RECENTLY THERE WAS

                    AN ARTICLE AND IT SAID THAT GOLDMAN SACHS ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS YEAR

                    THAT IT WOULD -- IT WOULD ONLY HELP COMPANIES GO PUBLIC IF THEY HAD AT

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                    LEAST ONE DIVERSE BOARD MEMBER.  AND SO THERE WAS A CASE THAT WAS

                    BEING MADE FOR BOARDROOM DIVERSITY, AND THAT WAS BEING ADVANCED

                    PRIVATELY RATHER THAN THROUGH GOVERNMENT ACTION AND I THINK THAT THAT'S

                    PREFERABLE.  I THINK PEOPLE GENERALLY, IF YOU ASK THEM, WANT TO SEE

                    DIVERSITY AND SEE THE BENEFITS OF DIVERSITY.  I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT

                    SHOULD BE A MANDATE.  I THINK INCREASING MARKETING OR RECRUITMENT

                    EFFORTS IS SMART.  THAT'S GREAT.  I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE A

                    MANDATE, BECAUSE IN THE END I REALLY THINK THAT THE BEST CANDIDATE

                    SHOULD BE SELECTED, MAN OR WOMAN.  IF THE BEST CANDIDATE IS SELECTED I

                    THINK THE BOARD WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS DO BETTER.

                                 AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS

                    THAT I JUST -- I -- I DON'T GET A CHANCE TO READ A LOT FOR PLEASURE,

                    ESPECIALLY DURING SESSION, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU A REALLY

                    GREAT BIOGRAPHY THAT I READ ABOUT SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR.  IT'S CALLED

                    FIRST.  AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE PRESSURES OF BEING "THE FIRST."  AND I'VE

                    BEEN ON BOARDS BEFORE COMING TO THE ASSEMBLY WHERE I WAS THE FIRST

                    WOMAN OR THE SECOND WOMAN, AND THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE WITH -- I

                    THINK TRUE SUCCESS IS WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS NOT UNUSUAL

                    TO SEE A BOARD WHERE THERE ARE EQUAL NUMBERS OF MEN AND WOMEN, ALL

                    QUALIFIED, ALL WORKING TOGETHER.  AND THAT WE WOMEN WERE THE EARLY

                    ACHIEVERS, I DO THINK HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO WORK TO ADVANCE AND HELP

                    OTHER WOMEN ACHIEVE SO THAT IT JUST BECOMES SO REGULAR AND NORMAL

                    THAT WE DON'T -- WE DON'T -- WE WOULD NOT NEED LEGISLATION LIKE THIS.

                                 I -- I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS

                    BILL BECAUSE I THINK IT JUST GOES TOO FAR.  I THINK THAT IF WE JUST LEFT IT AS

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                    A RECRUITMENT AND RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY BE

                    ABLE TO SUPPORT IT.  BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT IT GOES FURTHER AND SAYS

                    SPECIFICALLY -- AND I'LL READ IT AGAIN -- AN APPOINTING POWER SHALL MAKE

                    RECOMMENDATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS IN A MANNER

                    WHICH WILL ENSURE A GENDER-BALANCED APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT

                    FOR EACH PUBLIC AUTHORITY.  I THINK IF SECTION 4 WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE BILL

                    I'D BE FINE WITH IT.  WITH IT IN THERE, NOT HAVING CHANGED SINCE THE LAST

                    TIME WE VOTED ON IT WITH 32 MEMBERS OF THIS BODY VOTING NO, I WILL

                    CONTINUE TO VOTE IN THE NEGATIVE.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1,

                    2021.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 477.  THIS IS A PARTY VOTE.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED AS AN EXCEPTION TO THEIR PARTY

                    POSITION IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE

                    NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  THE REPUBLICAN

                    CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY OPPOSED TO THIS BILL AS WRITTEN.  THOSE WHO

                    SUPPORT IT ARE ENCOURAGED TO CALL THE MINORITY LEADER'S OFFICE SO WE

                    CAN PROPERLY RECORD YOUR VOTE.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY CONFERENCE IS GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS

                    ONE.  COLLEAGUES DECIDING TO BE AN EXCEPTION, THEY SHOULD FEEL FREE TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY LEADER'S OFFICE AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO PROPERLY

                    RECORD THEIR VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL TO

                    EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  MOST OF US HERE

                    ARE -- ARE REALLY OPPOSED TO DISCRIMINATION BASED ON FACTORS OTHER THAN

                    THE PERSON'S QUALIFICATION.  I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT MOST OF US WANT

                    THE VERY BEST QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO SERVE ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS

                    REGARDLESS OF THEIR SEX OR RACE, COLOR, RELIGION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, SEXUAL

                    ORIENTATION OR ANY FACTOR THAT'S UNRELATED TO THEIR ABILITY TO DO THE BEST

                    JOB POSSIBLE FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF NEW

                    YORK.  WE WANT TO FOCUS ON GETTING THE VERY BEST PEOPLE WE CAN ON

                    EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION WITHOUT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST OR FOR ANY

                    GROUP.  AS MY COLLEAGUE NOTED, THIS LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE IS

                    INCONSISTENT, BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATIVE LANGUAGE DOESN'T SAY, YOU SHALL

                    SELECT THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON REGARDLESS OF SEX OR GENDER.  INSTEAD, IT

                    SAYS, THE APPOINTING POWER SHALL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS,

                    APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO ENSURE A CERTAIN MAKEUP OF THE

                    BOARD BASED ON GENDER THAT'S UNRELATED TO THE QUALIFICATIONS.  AND JUST

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                    IN CASE THERE WAS ANY MISUNDERSTANDING, SUBPARAGRAPH 3(B) SAYS,

                    PERSONS SHALL BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT ONLY

                    -- "ONLY" -- THAT'S THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE -- ONLY IF THE RECOMMENDATION

                    IS GENDER-BALANCED.  LET'S NOT ADOPT LEGISLATION THAT ENSHRINES

                    DISCRIMINATION.  LET'S FOCUS ON ENCOURAGING THE BROADEST PARTICIPATION

                    WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BARRON TO

                    EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. BARRON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I JUST

                    WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT ANY TIME WE TRY TO DEAL

                    WITH GENDER DISCRIMINATION OR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, THERE ARE THOSE

                    THAT WE SHOULD SAY WE SHOULD GO BY MERITOCRACY, JUST BY MERIT,

                    KNOWING THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, UNLESS YOU DO

                    SOMETHING TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT THOSE WHO ARE

                    SO MERITED WERE NOT EVEN AS QUALIFIED AS SOME WHO WERE LEFT OUT OF THE

                    PICTURE.  SO WHEN YOU HAVE PROGRAMS AND LEGISLATION TO TRY TO DEAL WITH

                    DISCRIMINATION AND YOU JUST SIMPLY ALWAYS TALK ABOUT MERITOCRACY OR ALL

                    WHO'S QUALIFIED WHEN THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE GOING

                    ON THAT ALLOWS WHITE MALES TO HAVE AN ADVANTAGE ON ALL OF THESE BOARDS

                    AND ALL OF THESE PLACES, THEN YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.  YOU HAVE TO

                    DO SOMETHING.  AND IF EVERY TIME WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING, EITHER SOME

                    LEGISLATION OR SOME KIND OF POLICIES OR PROGRAMS AND WE TRY TO DO THIS,

                    THEN IT IS A REAL, REAL, REAL PROBLEM.  SO I JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE US VERY,

                    VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT PEOPLE TRY TO DO TO CLOSE THE GAP.  AND YOU CAN'T

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                    CLOSE THE GAP BY ALWAYS COMING UP WITH SOME RATIONALE WHY YOU

                    SHOULDN'T DO THINGS.

                                 SO I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE FOR THIS LEGISLATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BARRON IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD THE

                    FOLLOWING COLLEAGUES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE:  BRIAN -- MR. BRIAN MILLER, MR.

                    MORINELLO, MR. NORRIS, MR. SCHMITT AND MR. WALCZYK.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SO NOTED.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 27, CALENDAR NO. 200, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A02230-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 200, REYES, DE LA ROSA, J. RIVERA, FERNANDEZ, COLTON, GOTTFRIED,

                    MCDONOUGH, GLICK, RICHARDSON, ROZIC, FALL, GRIFFIN, GRIFFIN, HEVESI,

                    CRUZ, OTIS, VANEL, JACOBSON, PAULIN, BURGOS, MEEKS, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS,

                    ANDERSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO ENACTING

                    THE "HATE CRIMES ANALYSIS AND REVIEW ACT."

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. REYES, AN

                    EXPLANATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MS. REYES:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS BILL

                    WOULD ENACT -- WOULD ENACT THE HATE CRIMES ANALYSIS AND REVIEW ACT.

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                    WHEN HATE CRIMES TAKE PLACE IN NEW YORK THERE'S OFTEN INSUFFICIENT

                    INFORMATION COLLECTED REGARDING THE IDENTITIES OF THOSE INVOLVED TO

                    ADEQUATELY UNDERSTAND WHO THE VICTIMS ARE AND WHO IS BEING ACCUSED

                    OF THE CRIME.  IN RECENT YEARS WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY SEEN A TROUBLING

                    RISE IN HATE CRIMES NOT ONLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY BUT RIGHT HERE IN NEW

                    YORK.  BY COLLECTING THIS INFORMATION WE CAN BETTER ENSURE THAT THE

                    STATE IS PROTECTING RESIDENTS HATE CRIME LAWS INTEND TO PROTECT, WITH THE

                    GOAL OF ULTIMATELY ENSURING WE HOLD CRIMINAL OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE

                    WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY ADVOCATING FOR BALANCED, RESTORATIVE JUSTICE

                    PRACTICES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  WOULD THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. REYES, WILL YOU

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. REYES:  YES, SIR.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MS. REYES.  I SEE THAT

                    THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE COLLECTION OF FAIRLY EXTENSIVE DATA REGARDING

                    THE VICTIM, AND I WANTED TO JUST REVIEW SOME OF THOSE ITEMS.  AS -- AS I

                    UNDERSTAND IT THERE'S 11 DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT ARE BEING SOUGHT.  IS IT YOUR

                    INTENT, THEN, THAT EVERY VICTIM WOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT A DETAILED

                    DEMOGRAPHIC BACKGROUND SHEET?

                                 MS. REYES:  YES.  IF -- IF THERE IS A HATE CRIME THAT IS

                    COMMITTED THEY WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, PARTICULARLY IF

                    THEY'RE REPORTING OR ACCUSING SOMEONE OF -- OF PERPETRATING A HATE

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                    CRIME AGAINST THEM.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, ONE OF THE 11 ITEMS IS

                    RELIGION, AND I ASSUME THAT'S -- YOU WANT THEM TO IDENTIFY WHAT

                    RELIGIOUS FAITH, IF ANY, THEY HAVE, CORRECT?

                                 MS. REYES:  CORRECT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  BUT ONE OF THE 11 ITEMS IS RELIGIOUS

                    PRACTICE.  WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

                                 MS. REYES:  UM...

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 GIVE ME A SECOND.  SO I -- I WOULD ASSUME JUST --

                    RELIGIOUS PRACTICES COULD BE CUSTOMS PERTAINING TO ONE'S RELIGION.  THEY

                    MAY NOT BE OVERLY APPARENT BUT COULD BE A SOURCE OF -- OF AN INDIVIDUAL

                    BEING TARGETED.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  OKAY.  SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH, FOR

                    EXAMPLE, TO SAY YOU HAVE -- THAT YOU'RE JEWISH, YOU HAVE TO SAY

                    WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE ORTHODOX OR -- OR WHETHER YOU'RE PRACTICING OR

                    NOT PRACTICING.  IS THAT WHAT WAS INTENDED BY THIS QUESTION?

                                 MS. REYES:  WELL, NO.  I THINK -- I THINK SOME

                    PRACTICES PERTAIN TO SOMEBODY'S RELIGION LIKE HATS, DREADLOCKS, HOW

                    MANY TIMES A DAY THEY PRAY, IF THEY HAVE TO PRAY IN A SEPARATE SPACE.

                    ALL THOSE PRACTICES.  BEADS.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE THAT ONE OF THE 11 ITEMS IS

                    SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

                                 MS. REYES:  CORRECT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LGBTQ+,

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                    THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES?

                                 MS. REYES:  CORRECT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND THEN NUMBER 11, I SEE GENDER

                    IDENTITY OR EXPRESSION.  SO IN ADDITION TO SEXUAL ORIENTATION YOU WANT

                    GENDER IDENTITY?

                                 MS. REYES:  YES.  AND WE USE THAT MODELED AFTER --

                    THAT'S DEFINED UNDER PENAL LAW SECTION 485.05.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MS. REYES.  I

                    APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATIONS.

                                 ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  YOU KNOW, BEING A VICTIM OF A

                    CRIME IS HORRIFIC.  BEING A VICTIM OF A HATE CRIME IS EVEN WORSE.  AND

                    ABOUT THE ONLY THING THAT COULD MAKE THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE EVEN WORSE

                    THAN ALL OF THAT, IT SEEMS TO ME, IS REQUIRING THE VICTIMS TO RELEASE A LOT

                    OF VERY PERSONAL INFORMATION.  SO YOU CALL THE POLICE AND YOU REPORT A

                    CRIME, AND THEN UNDER THIS BILL YOU COULD REASONABLY ANTICIPATE THE

                    POLICE WILL START GRILLING THE VICTIM ON A WHOLE SERIES OF VERY PERSONAL

                    QUESTIONS.  LIKE, WHAT'S YOUR RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN?  THAT'S

                    INTERESTING SINCE MOST OF US HAVE MULTIPLE NATIONAL ORIGINS.  ANCESTRY.

                    I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.  HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE?

                    HOW MANY BROTHERS AND SISTERS?  WHO ARE YOU RELATED TO?  GENDER, I

                    GET THAT.  OR GENDER IDENTITY OR EXPRESSION.  RELIGION.  IF YOU'RE A

                    VICTIM, DON'T YOU WANT TO SAY, GUYS, YOU KNOW, I'M A VICTIM HERE.  WHY

                    DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MY RELIGION OR RELIGIOUS PRACTICES?  AGE.  NOW, I

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                    DON'T CARE, YOU GUYS CAN ALREADY TELL FROM THE COLOR OF MY -- MY HAIR

                    THAT I'M NOT 39 ANYMORE, BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT.

                    DISABILITY.  SEXUAL ORIENTATION.  WE HAVE LEGISLATION IN THIS BODY

                    SAYING THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE CONFIDENTIAL ON YOUR SEXUAL

                    ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY.  SO WHILE I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO

                    COMBAT HATE CRIMES - WE ALL SUPPORT THAT DESIRE - WE NEED TO BE

                    SENSITIVE TO VICTIMS AND WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO PERSONAL PRIVACY.

                    AND WE SHOULD NOT SUBJECT VICTIMS TO A DETAILED QUESTIONNAIRE THAT

                    LEAVES THEM WONDERING, ARE THE POLICE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS AS

                    DILIGENTLY AS THEY OUGHT TO BECAUSE MAYBE THE POLICE HAD SOMETHING

                    AGAINST A SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR A GENDER IDENTITY?  OR, WILL THE POLICE

                    FOLLOW UP AND TREAT ME JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE, REGARDLESS OF MY RELIGION

                    OR RELIGIOUS PRACTICES?  WE WANT THE POLICE FOCUSED ON SOLVING CRIMES

                    REGARDLESS OF THE RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, ANCESTRY, GENDER, RELIGION,

                    RELIGIOUS PRACTICE, AGE, DISABILITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY OR

                    EXPRESSION OF THE VICTIM.  LET'S GIVE THE VICTIMS A BREAK.  LET'S NOT

                    SUBJECT THEM TO DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT ARE VERY PERSONAL AND INTRUSIVE

                    AS PART OF A PROCESS OF SOLVING THE CRIME.  IF THE VICTIM WANTS TO

                    VOLUNTEER, GOD BLESS THEM.  BUT NOT MAKE IT A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. REYES.

                                 MS. REYES:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I JUST WANTED

                    TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD.  YOU KNOW, I DON'T PURPORT TO KNOW WHY

                    SOMEONE MIGHT COMMIT A HEINOUS CRIME AGAINST SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF

                    WHO THEY PRAY TO OR WHO THEY LOVE OR WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR WHERE

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                    THEY COME FROM.  BUT THE REALITY IS IS THAT IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S

                    HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY.  AND THE INTENTION OF THIS BILL IS FOR US TO

                    GATHER MORE INFORMATION NOT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SOLVE CRIMES, IT IS

                    A REPORTING BILL SO THAT WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION AS TO THE MOTIVES

                    BEHIND WHY SOME OF THESE CRIMES ARE COMMITTED.  WHO THE

                    PERPETRATORS ARE.  WHAT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, BACKGROUND

                    MAY BE BECAUSE IT MAY MOTIVATE THEM TO COMMIT THE CRIME, AND THAT OF

                    -- OF THE VICTIM AS WELL.  AND I ALSO WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO -- MY

                    COLLEAGUES' ATTENTION TO PAGE 2, LINE 4 OF THE BILL WHERE IT SAYS, DATA

                    COLLECTED SHALL BE USED FOR RESEARCH OR STATISTICAL PURPOSES ONLY AND

                    SHALL NOT CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT MAY REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF ANY

                    INDIVIDUAL.  THIS IS ALSO A REPORTING BILL, SO IT -- IT DIRECTS, UM, UM, UM

                    -- I'M SORRY, IT -- IT DIRECTS DCJS TO, IN COOPERATION WITH THE CHIEF

                    ADMINISTRATION [SIC] OF THE COURTS AS WELL AS OTHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE

                    AGENCIES TO FURNISH A REPORT TO THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATURE, THE

                    SPEAKER OF THE ASSEMBLY, THE TEMPORARY PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE, THE

                    CHAIR OF THE ASSEMBLY CODES COMMITTEE, THE CHAIR OF THE SENATE

                    CODES COMMITTEE, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE

                    JUDGE OF THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION.  AND THE IDEA IS FOR US TO

                    HAVE MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHY SOME OF THE -- THE HATE CRIMES ARE

                    HAPPENING, WHO THE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE COMMITTING THEM AND WHO ARE

                    THEY AGAINST SO THAT WE CAN BETTER LEGISLATE AND PROTECT THOSE

                    INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.  THIS IS NOT INTENDED, BY ANY MEANS,

                    TO REVICTIMIZE VICTIMS OR TO GATHER INFORMATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF

                    SOLVING A CRIME.  THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR US TO COLLECT THE DATA AND BE

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                    BETTER INFORMED LEGISLATORS.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. REILLY.

                                 MR. REILLY:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. REYES, WILL YOU

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. REYES:  YES, I DO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. REYES YIELDS, SIR.

                                 MR. REILLY:  THANK YOU, MS. REYES.  SO, WITH THIS

                    LEGISLATION IS THERE ANYTHING -- I KNOW YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT COLLECTING

                    DATA AND MAKING ASSURE THAT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB AS A LEGISLATURE TO

                    HELP PREVENT HATE CRIMES AND DO OUR PART.  IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS

                    LEGISLATION THAT WILL ANALYZE IN THE REPORT AND COLLECTED DATA OF THOSE

                    THAT COMMIT HATE CRIMES, THAT MAY HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME AND BEEN

                    RELEASED WITHOUT BAIL DUE TO BAIL REFORM?  WILL THAT BE TAKEN INTO

                    ACCOUNT ON THIS STATISTICAL DATA?

                                 MS. REYES:  I BELIEVE THAT ALREADY AS PART OF THE

                    COLLECTING OF THE DATA THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN -- IN THE LAW, IN THE HATE

                    CRIMES ACT OF 2000, WHERE KIND OF LIKE THE RESOLUTION OF THE -- OF THE

                    CRIME AND THE INVESTIGATION IS PART -- IS REPORTABLE AS WELL.  SO WE'RE

                    NOT AMENDING THAT PART, THAT STAYS.  WE'RE JUST ADDING ALL THOSE THINGS

                    THAT OUR COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, LIKE RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN,

                    ANCESTRY, GENDER, GENDER IDENTITY OR EXPRESSION, RELIGION.  ALL THOSE

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                    THINGS THAT WEREN'T IN THE LAW BEFORE IS WHAT WE'RE AMENDING AND

                    ADDING.

                                 MR. REILLY:  SO, WOULD -- I THINK A GOOD THING

                    WOULD BE -- BECAUSE WE, OF COURSE, WANT TO ADDRESS ANY RECIDIVISM

                    WHEN IT COMES TO HATE CRIMES -- IF WE HAVE SUBJECTS THAT WERE ARRESTED

                    PRIOR AND CHARGED WITH THOSE CRIMES, WOULD THAT BE PART OF THIS

                    STATISTICAL DATA THAT WE --- THAT THEY WILL COLLECT?  BECAUSE I KNOW THAT

                    THE -- THE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION IS INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL.

                    WILL THAT BE GENERATED WITH THESE REPORTS?

                                 MS. REYES:  YEAH, LIKE I MENTIONED.  AND I'LL

                    ACTUALLY READ OFF -- I'LL READ OFF THE BILL WHAT IT SAYS.  IT SAYS THE COUNTY

                    WITHIN WHICH THE ARREST WAS MADE AND THE ACCUSATORY INSTRUMENT FILED,

                    THE DISPOSITION OF THE ACCUSATORY INSTRUMENT FILED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT

                    LIMITED TO, AS THE CASE MAY BE DISMISSAL, ACQUITTAL, THE OFFENSES TO

                    WHICH THE DEFENDANT PLED GUILTY, THE OFFENSES THE DEFENDANT WAS

                    CONVICTED OF AFTER TRIAL AND THE SENTENCE IMPOSED.  THAT IS ALL PART OF

                    THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE LAW.

                                 MR. REILLY:  SO I NOTICED -- I NOTICED AS YOU WERE

                    READING THAT ENUMERATED LIST THAT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE IF THE INCIDENT WAS

                    BAIL ELIGIBLE OR NOT BAIL ELIGIBLE, AND IF BAIL WAS SET AND IF THERE WAS ANY

                    -- BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE GETS ARRESTED AND THEY'RE BEING EVALUATED,

                    THERE'S DCJS, THERE'S ALSO THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN

                    NEW YORK CITY, THAT TALKS TO THOSE THAT ARE BEING CHARGED WITH A CRIME

                    WHEN IT LOOKS AT TRYING TO ASCERTAIN IF THEY NEED REPRESENTATION, IF THEY

                    NEED ASSISTANCE IN IT.  SO WILL THAT DATA BE INCLUDED IN THIS AS WELL?

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                    SPECIFICALLY, THE POST-ARRAIGNMENT INTERVIEWS IN -- WHEN THEY'RE FIRST

                    ARRESTED.

                                 MS. REYES:  I'M SORRY.  I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN

                    ANSWER TO THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT

                    WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE SENTENCE IMPOSED.  SO I WOULD HAVE TO GET

                    BACK TO YOU.

                                 MR. REILLY:  SO -- THANK YOU, MS. REYES.

                                 ON -- ON THE BILL, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, MR.

                    REILLY.

                                 MR. REILLY:  SO, THE INTENTION OF THIS ACT IS -- IS A

                    NOBLE ONE.  HEARING THE DEBATE, LISTENING TO THE DEBATE, ASKING THE

                    QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AND THE ANSWERS I RECEIVED, I THINK THAT WE'RE

                    SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT CONVICTIONS AND THE ORDERS THAT COME AND THE

                    -- THE DATA THAT IS ACTUALLY COLLECTED AFTER SOMEONE HAS BEEN CONVICTED

                    OR PLED GUILTY TO A CRIME.  I THINK WE'RE MISSING A KEY DATA POINT WHEN

                    WE CAN GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND HAVE IT INCLUDED IN THESE REPORTS

                    THAT WILL BE GENERATED AS WE FOLLOW THOSE THAT -- THOSE SUBJECTS, THOSE

                    INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEING CHARGED WITH THOSE CRIMES.  IF WE HAVE THAT

                    DATA FROM THE INCEPTION SO WE CAN SEE AND GATHER INFORMATION TO SEE

                    ABOUT PATTERNS AND THINGS THAT WE CAN REALLY ADDRESS TO HELP COMBAT

                    HATE CRIMES.

                                 SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND I'M WILLING TO

                    WORK ON THAT AS WELL.  BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THANK YOU, MS. REYES.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 2230-A.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  AS YOU KNOW, THIS

                    IS A FAST ROLL CALL, SO MEMBERS WILL BE RECORDED SUPPORTING THIS

                    LEGISLATION UNLESS THEY OTHERWISE INDICATE BY CONTACTING THEIR

                    RESPECTIVE LEADER'S OFFICE.  I WILL BE VOTING NO OVER THE PRIVACY ISSUES

                    THAT I (INAUDIBLE).  I THINK THERE ARE HUGE PRIVACY ISSUES AND I THINK WE

                    NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE PRIVACY OF VICTIMS AND RESPECT THEIR RIGHT TO

                    PRIVACY.  AND I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS BILL, WHILE IT MAY PRODUCE

                    INTERESTING DATA THAT PEOPLE CAN STUDY, ALSO TRAMPLES SOME OF THOSE

                    PRIVACY RIGHTS THAT VICTIMS HAVE, AND FOR THAT REASON I WILL BE OPPOSING

                    IT.  BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE ANXIOUS TO SEE THAT

                    DATA AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEIR VIEWS AS

                    WELL.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

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                                 MR. KIM TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. KIM:  THANK YOU, MR. -- CHAIR AUBRY --

                    SPEAKER.  I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE SPONSOR OF THIS BILL FOR

                    PUTTING THIS THOUGHTFUL LEGISLATION FORWARD AT A TIME WHEN WE ARE

                    SEEING SO MUCH HATE CRIMES AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS ACROSS THIS

                    COUNTRY AND AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR

                    ARE CONSTANTLY BEING PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER.  AND PEOPLE WHO ARE IN

                    POSITIONS OF POWER ARE CONTROLLING THE NARRATIVE OF WHY PEOPLE ARE

                    FEELING HATEFUL AND VIOLENT, AND UNLESS WE HAVE THE TRUE DATA IN FRONT OF

                    US WE CANNOT MAKE SOUND DECISIONS.  SO I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR'S

                    THOUGHTFULNESS IN TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.  AND IT ALSO REFLECTS WHAT

                    THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, I BELIEVE, IS CURRENTLY DOING.  I JUST -- I

                    BELIEVE THEY ALSO PASSED LEGISLATION TO DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

                    TO WORK WITH STATES ON BETTER DATA COLLECTION SO WE CAN HAVE A FULL

                    PICTURE OF WHAT THE PATTERNS ARE.  IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO PUNISH THE

                    CRIME AT THE MOMENT.  YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND CONNECT THE DOTS TO

                    BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW WE SHOULD INVEST OUR DOLLARS TO PREVENT THE

                    HATRED AND VIOLENCE.

                                 SO I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE SPONSOR'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS

                    AND I PROUDLY SUPPORT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. KIM IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  THIS PIECE OF

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                    LEGISLATION, I HAVE TO COMMEND THE SPONSOR FOR THIS ONE.  AND I

                    COMMEND MY COLLEAGUES WHO CAN SEE WITHIN THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS TO

                    SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.  IT IS RATHER SAD THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS DAY

                    AND TIME PEOPLE ARE HURTING OTHERS BASED ON HATE.  IT IS RATHER SAD.  BUT

                    IT DOES NEED TO BE DEALT WITH.  HURT PEOPLE HURT OTHER PEOPLE.  WE HAVE

                    A LOT OF ISSUES IN OUR SOCIETY, THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.  AND IF IT

                    TAKES COLLECTING DATA TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT, THEN MR. SPEAKER, I

                    THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

                                 SO, AGAIN, I COMMEND THE SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION.

                    AND I HOPE THAT IN YEARS OUT WE WON'T NEED TO BE PASSING LAWS ABOUT

                    HATE CRIMES BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LIKE NOT TO SEE ANY CRIMES AT

                    ALL.  BUT A HATE CRIME, YOU'RE HATING SOMEBODY FOR WHO THEY ARE OR

                    WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY LOOK.  THAT'S JUST CRAZY.  BUT THAT'S WHERE

                    WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THIS WORLD AND THIS IS THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IN

                    2021.  SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO VOTE YES ON THIS BILL AND I APPLAUD FOLKS

                    WHO HAVE DECIDED TO DO LIKEWISE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES

                    IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  PLEASE RECORD MR.

                    DIPIETRO AND MR. MONTESANO JOINING ME IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU,

                    SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  SO NOTED.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 30, CALENDAR NO. 251, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A3201-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 251, MCDONALD, MCMAHON, ABINANTI, SIMON, GOTTFRIED,

                    MONTESANO, MORINELLO, OTIS, FAHY, STIRPE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, IN RELATION TO THE PURPOSES AND POWERS OF

                    INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 3201-B.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  I'LL BE SUPPORTING

                    THIS LEGISLATION AND RECOMMEND THE SAME FOR MY COLLEAGUES.  I ALSO,

                    THOUGH, WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE

                    SPONSOR WHO HAS AMENDED THIS BILL TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS BILL WOULD

                    PROHIBIT A MUNICIPALITY THAT APPOINTS MEMBERS TO THE IDA TO APPOINT --

                    OR TO HAVE ONE OF ITS OWN ELECTED MEMBERS SERVE AS A PAID MEMBER OF

                    THE IDA.  AND SO THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS TO MAKE SURE WE

                    DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WHERE, SAY, A MAYOR OR A COUNTY

                    EXECUTIVE APPOINTS THE BOARD OF THE IDA WHO THEN TURNS AROUND AND

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                    HIRES THAT MAYOR OR SUPERVISOR OR COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND PAYS THEM.

                    AND SO THIS IS ALL DESIGNED TO ELIMINATE THAT CONFLICT OF INTEREST.  THE

                    SPONSOR, TO HIS CREDIT, AMENDED THE BILL TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF YOU'RE

                    NOT IN THAT CONFLICT OF INTEREST BUT YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN SOME

                    OTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT YOU ARE CERTAINLY FREE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD SO

                    THAT YOU CAN HAVE BROAD REPRESENTATION, HOPEFULLY GENDER-BASED, BUT

                    CERTAINLY BROAD REPRESENTATION AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONFLICT.

                                 AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND RECOMMEND THE

                    SAME TO MY COLLEAGUES.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. MCDONALD TO

                    EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. MCDONALD:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I WANT

                    TO THANK YOU.  I WANT TO THANK OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CHAIR AND MR.

                    GOODELL FOR ACTUALLY EXPLAINING MY BILL, WHICH I APPRECIATE AND I

                    APPRECIATED THE CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS.  THE REALITY IS THIS, IS THAT ALL

                    ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE VARIOUS RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO

                    MAKE SURE THE PROPER SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO

                    SELF-DEALING GOING ON.  UNFORTUNATELY, THIS HAS HAPPENED IN A -- IN A

                    FEW CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS

                    WHO ARE ELECTED TO SERVE ON BOARDS -- OR SELECTED TO SERVE ON BOARDS ARE

                    NOW IN A POSITION TO ALSO RETURN THAT FAVOR.

                                 WE THINK THIS IS GOOD LEGISLATION, IT'S A GOOD

                    GOVERNMENT BILL, AND I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. MCDONALD IN THE

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                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 31, CALENDAR NO. 270, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06910, CALENDAR NO.

                    270, CUSICK, FALL, COLTON, DURSO, GRIFFIN, REILLY.  AN ACT TO AMEND

                    CHAPTER 395 OF THE LAWS OF 1978, RELATING TO MORATORIUMS ON THE

                    ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATES OF ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY FOR THE SITING OF

                    FACILITIES AND CERTIFICATION OF ROUTES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION OF LIQUEFIED

                    NATURAL OR PETROLEUM GAS, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF

                    THE PROVISIONS OF SUCH CHAPTER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    CUSICK, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 MR. CUSICK, AN EXPLANATION IS REQUESTED, SIR.

                                 MR. CUSICK:  YES, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS BILL IS A

                    TWO-YEAR EXTENDER OF CHAPTER 395 OF THE LAWS OF 1978.  THIS -- THIS

                    BILL RELATES TO MORATORIUMS ON THE ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATES OF

                    ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY FOR THE SITING OF FACILITIES AND CERTIFICATION OF

                    ROUTES TO TRANSPORT LIQUEFIED NATURAL OR PETROLEUM GAS IN CITIES WITH A

                    POPULATION OF ONE MILLION OR MORE.  IN THIS -- THE IMPETUS OF THIS BILL

                    BACK IN 1978, THERE WAS A LNG EXPLOSION ON STATEN ISLAND THAT KILLED

                    40 PEOPLE.  AND THEN WHEN THE BILL WAS PASSED IN 1978, IT WAS AT THE

                    URGING OF THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF NEW

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                    YORK, AND SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN EXTENDED EVERY TWO YEARS.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. REILLY.

                                 MR. REILLY:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. REILLY:  SO, THIS -- THE AREA IN QUESTION THAT

                    BROUGHT ABOUT THIS BILL IN 1978 LIES IN MY DISTRICT.  IT IS -- THE INCIDENT

                    HAPPENED ONLY A FEW DAYS AFTER I WAS BORN.  IT HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY

                    10TH, 1973.  I WAS BORN ON JANUARY 30, 1973.  THE EXPLOSION KILLED 40

                    PEOPLE.  THE DEBRIS OF THESE TWO TANKS LANDED HUNDREDS OF FEET AROUND

                    THE AREA.  TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE INSIDE INTO THIS, IN 1973 THE WHOLE AREA

                    WAS BASICALLY FARMLAND.  FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, AS MANY OF STATEN

                    ISLAND, SUCH AS MYSELF, MOVED FROM BROOKLYN, IT IS HIGHLY POPULATED

                    NOW.  AND THIS BILL CONTINUES AN EXTENDER TO MAINTAIN SAFETY IN THE

                    AREA.  THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I COMMEND THE SPONSOR IN CARRYING THIS

                    BILL.  AS YOU HEARD IN THE EXPLANATION, THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE

                    DEPARTMENT IS IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE THAT IT CAUSED WHEN

                    THAT AREA WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS POPULATED.  NOW, YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE

                    WHAT THE FATALITY COUNT WOULD HAVE BEEN IF IT HAPPENED TODAY.  SO AS

                    ALSO THE SPONSOR NOTED, THE MAYORS OF NEW YORK CITY FROM BOTH SIDES

                    OF THE AISLE CONTINUOUSLY SUPPORTED THIS AS WELL.  WHY?  BECAUSE IT

                    HELPS THE COMMUNITY.  IT CREATES A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.  AND ONE THING

                    THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS TO ACTUALLY GET RID OF THOSE TANKERS.  THEY'RE

                    AN EYESORE.  BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT

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                    THIS LEGISLATION FOR MY COMMUNITY AND FOR THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN

                    THERE.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE

                    COMMENTS OF THE SPONSOR AND MY COLLEAGUE.  THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THIS

                    EXPLOSION THAT OCCURRED IN 1976 [SIC] WAS A HORRIFIC EVENT.  THE

                    SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATION CONCLUDED THAT THE TANK THAT EXPLODED WAS

                    ACTUALLY EMPTY.  IT WASN'T BEING USED FOR STORAGE, IT WAS BEING CLEANED

                    AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT AND SOMEHOW THERE WAS A FIRE THAT IGNITED

                    THE CLEANING FLUIDS.  SINCE THEN, THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND THE TANK

                    DESIGN THAT WERE USED ARE NOW PROHIBITED NATIONALLY, AND SHOULD WE

                    LOOK AT BUILDING A NEW FACILITY IT WOULD MEET VERY DIFFERENT

                    CONSTRUCTION AND SAFETY STANDARDS.  THIS ACCIDENT OCCURRED 48 YEARS

                    AGO.  AND THE CONCERN THAT MANY OF US HAVE IS THAT IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR

                    US TO MOVE ON AND LOOK AT HOW IS THE SAFEST WAY TO MEET OUR ENERGY

                    NEEDS GOING FORWARD.  AS MANY OF US ARE AWARE AND WE'VE READ WITH

                    SOME CONCERN, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL SHORTAGE OF NATURAL GAS SUPPLIES

                    ON LONG ISLAND AND IN NEW YORK CITY JUST LAST YEAR.  AND YOU MAY

                    REMEMBER THAT THE UTILITY COMPANIES WERE REFUSING TO CONNECT NEW

                    CUSTOMERS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH NATURAL GAS TO SUPPORT THEM

                    BECAUSE THE STATE HAD REPEATEDLY BLOCKED SUPPLY PIPELINES.  NOW, FOR

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                    THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WONDERING WHY WE DON'T HAVE A CONNECTION

                    MORATORIUM ANYMORE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T CONSTRUCTED NEW

                    PIPELINES, THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE ARE NOW TRANSPORTING LIQUID NATURAL

                    GAS BY TRUCK, BY TRUCK.  AND WHEN THEY BRING THESE LIQUID NATURAL GAS

                    SEMI-TRUCKS OVER THE NORMAL ROADWAYS IN ORDER TO BOOSTER THE SUPPLY OF

                    NATURAL GAS SERVING ALL OF LONG ISLAND AND NEW YORK CITY, THE RISK

                    MAY ACTUALLY BE MUCH HIGHER TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAN IF WE

                    PROCEEDED IN A THOUGHTFUL MANNER BY ALLOWING A LIQUID NATURAL GAS

                    TERMINAL THAT MEETS CURRENT SAFETY STANDARDS AND LOOK AT INCREASING THE

                    SUPPLY WITH NATURAL GAS PIPELINES WHICH HAVE AN EXCELLENT SAFETY

                    REPUTATION.

                                 SO WHILE I'M VERY MUCH SENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS OF

                    MY TWO COLLEAGUES AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THEIR CONCERNS, MAYBE IT'S

                    TIME FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AFTER NEARLY A HALF-A-CENTURY AND LOOK AT

                    WHETHER WE CAN DO BETTER WITHOUT EXTENDING THIS MORATORIUM AND

                    INSTEAD FOCUS ON THE BEST AND SAFEST METHOD OF SUPPLYING NATURAL GAS

                    FOR LONG ISLAND AND NEW YORK CITY.  THESE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS

                    WHY THE LAST EXTENSION IN 2019 HAD 36 NO VOTES.  ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY

                    MY COLLEAGUES WHO VOTED FOR IT HAVE GOOD REASONS BECAUSE MEMORIES

                    ARE LONG.  EVEN IF THEY WERE JUST BORN, THEIR MEMORIES IN THE

                    COMMUNITY ARE LONG AND I AM SENSITIVE TO THEIR CONCERNS.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.

                                 MR. LAWLER TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.  NO, MR. LAWLER ON

                    THE BILL.

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                                 MR. LAWLER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. CUSICK, WILL YOU

                    YIELD?

                                 MR. CUSICK:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. CUSICK YIELDS,

                    SIR.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.  MR.

                    CHAIRMAN, WHERE DOES NEW YORK CITY GETS ITS ENERGY SUPPLY FROM?

                                 MR. CUSICK:  WELL, WHERE -- WHERE MOST OF THE

                    STATE DOES.  THIS BILL IS -- THIS BILL IS MORE ABOUT THE MORATORIUM THAN

                    WHERE THE ENERGY SUPPLY OF NEW YORK CITY IS.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  WELL, THE REASON I ASK IS WE

                    OBVIOUSLY RECENTLY SHUT DOWN INDIAN POINT, WHICH SUPPLIED ABOUT 25

                    PERCENT OF THE REGION'S POWER SUPPLY.

                                 MR. CUSICK:  YES.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  AND THERE'S A MOVEMENT WITHIN THIS

                    STATE, OBVIOUSLY, AGAINST, YOU KNOW, NATURAL GAS AND A MOVEMENT

                    TOWARDS 100 PERCENT RENEWABLES SO THAT WE HAVE ZERO CARBON

                    EMISSIONS, WHICH I -- I SUPPORT THE EFFORT OF COURSE TO HAVE CLEAN

                    ENERGY AND TO INCREASE OUR RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES.  BUT ABOUT 60

                    PERCENT OF NEW YORK STATE RESIDENTS RELY ON NATURAL GAS TO HEAT THEIR

                    HOMES AND TO POWER THEM, AND TO, YOU KNOW, POWER THEIR AIR

                    CONDITIONERS.  SO WHILE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN IN EFFECT A VERY LONG TIME,

                    WITH INDIAN POINT SHUTTING DOWN, ISN'T --  ISN'T THERE A CONCERN AS TO

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                    WHERE NEW YORK CITY AND THE REGION IS GOING TO GET ITS ENERGY SUPPLY

                    FROM?

                                 MR. CUSICK:  I AM SURE THAT NEW YORK CITY IS

                    CONCERNED AND THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT I THINK THIS LEGISLATIVE

                    BODY AND -- AND YOURSELF, MR. LAWLER, WOULD BE APT TO BRING UP WITH

                    THE CITY OF NEW YORK, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THEY ARE

                    CONCENTRATING ON.  BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS BILL WAS INTRODUCED IN

                    1978.  HAS BEEN EXTENDED EVERY TWO YEARS BASED ON PUBLIC SAFETY, NOT

                    ON THE ISSUE OF THE SUPPLY OR HOW ONE ENTITY MAY FEEL ABOUT NATURAL

                    GAS.  THIS WAS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE NEW YORK CITY FIRE

                    DEPARTMENT BACK THEN AND THEY CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  OKAY.  THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

                                 MR. CUSICK:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. LAWLER:  I APPRECIATE, OBVIOUSLY, THE SAFETY

                    CONCERNS ANY TIME WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF POWER PLANT OR

                    FACILITY IN WHICH ENERGY IS RUNNING THROUGH, BUT WE HAVE A REAL CRISIS IN

                    THIS STATE.  WITH THE CLOSING OF INDIAN POINT UNDER THE GUISE OF COURSE

                    OF SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT CONTRADICTORY

                    BECAUSE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS ARE -- ARE ZERO CARBON EMISSION AND ALSO

                    WE'RE KEEPING POWER PLANTS OPEN IN UPSTATE NEW YORK TO THE TUNE OF

                    BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAXPAYER MONEY.  BUT WE'RE SHUTTING DOWN INDIAN

                    POINT AND WE HAVE A -- AN ENERGY CRISIS IN THIS STATE.  TWENTY-FIVE

                    PERCENT OF OUR ENERGY SUPPLY FOR THE REGION CAME FROM -- CAME FROM

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                    INDIAN POINT, AND SO IT MADE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE

                    WE HAD A MORATORIUM ON THE LICENSING OF LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS

                    FACILITIES.  AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM WESTERN NEW YORK POINTED OUT,

                    WE'RE TRUCKING IT IN WHICH ONE HAS TO WONDER HOW SAFE THAT IS OVER THE

                    GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE, FOR EXAMPLE.  SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS

                    WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE WORK TO TRY AND ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE WE

                    HAVE TO DO SO IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY AND FOLLOWING THE SCIENCE.  AND

                    AS MUCH AS WE WILL BE RELYING ON -- IN THE FUTURE ON RENEWABLE ENERGY

                    WE NEED DISPATCHABLE ENERGY AS WELL.  AND NATURAL GAS IS A

                    DISPATCHABLE FORM OF ENERGY TO HELP, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THE WIND STOPS

                    BLOWING OR WHEN THE SUN SETS.  AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

                    SERIOUSLY NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH POLICY

                    DECISIONS RELATED TO OUR ENERGY SUPPLY HERE IN NEW YORK.

                                 I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT, AS I'VE POINTED OUT PREVIOUSLY,

                    MANY OF OUR NYCHA FACILITIES RELY ON NATURAL GAS.  AND SO BY TRYING

                    TO LIMIT NATURAL GAS WE ARE PUTTING THOSE FACILITIES WHICH ARE ALREADY

                    CASH-STRAPPED INTO SERIOUS HARM'S WAY FROM AN ENERGY PERSPECTIVE.  SO

                    I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER THOSE NYCHA

                    FACILITIES WHICH MANY OF THEM TALK ABOUT QUITE OFTEN, UNDERSTANDABLY

                    SO, AS -- AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION FOR

                    AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.  THOSE COSTS WILL RISE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE

                    RELIABLE SOURCES OF ENERGY SUCH AS NATURAL GAS.

                                 SO FOR THAT REASON, MR. SPEAKER, I THINK IT IS TIME TO

                    LIFT THE MORATORIUM ON LICENSING OF -- OF NATURAL GAS FACILITIES IN NEW

                    YORK CITY.  IF THE ISSUE IS SAFETY, THEN WE SHOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT

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                    ISSUES SURROUNDING TRUCKING NATURAL GAS OVER OUR BRIDGES, WHICH

                    OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE A -- A REAL ISSUE OF SAFETY.  BUT WE REALLY NEED TO

                    HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOING FORWARD, SO I WILL OPPOSE THIS

                    LEGISLATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON SENATE PRINT 6173.  THIS IS A PARTY VOTE.  ANY

                    MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED AS AN EXCEPTION TO THEIR

                    CONFERENCE POSITION IS REMINDED TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY

                    LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  THE REPUBLICAN

                    CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY OPPOSED TO THIS LEGISLATION.  BUT FOR THOSE WHO

                    WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT IT, PLEASE CONTACT THE MINORITY LEADER'S OFFICE SO

                    WE CAN PROPERLY RECORD YOUR VOTE.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 MS. HYNDMAN.

                                 MS. HYNDMAN:  I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND MY

                    COLLEAGUES THAT THIS IS A PARTY VOTE.  THE MAJORITY MEMBERS WILL BE

                    RECORDED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.  IF THERE ARE ANY EXCEPTIONS WE ASK THE

                    MAJORITY MEMBERS TO CONTACT THE MAJORITY LEADER'S OFFICE AT THE

                    NUMBER PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED AND YOUR NAME WILL BE RECORDED

                    ACCORDINGLY.

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                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  IN ADDITION TO THE

                    FIVE VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS ON THE FLOOR THAT ARE ALREADY REGISTERED,

                    PLEASE RECORD THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS IN FAVOR OF THIS LEGISLATION:  MR.

                    ASHBY AND MR. WALCZYK.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU SO MUCH.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF WE

                    COULD NOW CALL OUR COLLEAGUES' ATTENTION TO CALENDAR NO. 297.  IT'S ON

                    PAGE 33 BY MR. EPSTEIN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03112-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 297, EPSTEIN, WEPRIN, NOLAN, HEVESI, REYES, SEAWRIGHT, SIMON,

                    GOTTFRIED, PERRY, TAYLOR, DAVILA, ENGLEBRIGHT, GALLAGHER,

                    GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, STECK, JACKSON, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, FERNANDEZ.  AN

                    ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO DIRECTING THE DIVISION

                    OF HUMAN RIGHTS TO PROMULGATE REGULATIONS REQUIRING DISCLOSURE OF

                    LAWFUL SOURCE OF INCOME RIGHTS TO PROSPECTIVE TENANTS.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE ON ASSEMBLY PRINT 3112-B.  THIS IS A FAST ROLL CALL.

                    ANY MEMBER WHO WISHES TO BE RECORDED IN THE NEGATIVE IS REMINDED TO

                    CONTACT THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY LEADER AT THE NUMBERS PREVIOUSLY

                    PROVIDED.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  THIS BILL REQUIRES

                    THOSE PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING GOVERNMENT AND NON-PROFIT THAT

                    PROVIDE RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO NOTIFY THOSE SEEKING THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE

                    OF THEIR RIGHT TO AVOID ANY DISCRIMINATION BASED ON THE SOURCE OF LAWFUL

                    INCOME USED TO PAY RENT.  I WANTED TO EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO MY

                    COLLEAGUE, THE SPONSOR.  THIS ORIGINALLY APPLIED TO ANYONE WHO WAS A

                    HOUSING PROVIDER, AND HE NARROWED THE BILL DOWN TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY

                    ON THOSE ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE PUBLIC FUNDING, AND THAT ENSURES THAT THE

                    RIGHT PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION WITHOUT CREATING A

                    NEEDLESS AND IRRELEVANT BURDEN ON EVERYONE ELSE.

                                 SO AGAIN, COMPLIMENTS TO MY COLLEAGUE FOR

                    SHARPENING THE LANGUAGE OF THIS BILL, AND ACCORDINGLY, I WILL BE

                    SUPPORTING IT.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. EPSTEIN.

                                 MR. EPSTEIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE TO

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                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  SO, WE -- WE MADE SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION

                    ILLEGAL TWO YEARS AGO IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.  UNFORTUNATELY, MANY

                    PEOPLE WITH GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE LAW

                    EXISTS.  PEOPLE GET SECTION 8 AND THEY GO APPLY FOR APARTMENTS AND THEY

                    HAVE NO IDEA THAT WHEN THE LANDLORD SAYS, HEY, WE DON'T TAKE SECTION 8,

                    THAT'S ILLEGAL IN NEW YORK STATE.  THIS BILL RECTIFIES THAT SITUATION.  IT

                    MAKES SURE THAT EVERY GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH

                    RENTAL ASSISTANCE GIVES THEM WRITTEN INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS FOR

                    SOURCE OF INCOME, AND THEN IF THEY FEEL DISCRIMINATED, HOW TO FILE A

                    COMPLAINT.

                                 I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR

                    OF THIS.  I WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKER FOR LETTING THIS BILL COME TO THE

                    FLOOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. EPSTEIN IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE HAVE BOTH, MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.  IN ONE MINUTE AFTER I SIGN THE BILL.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. WALKER, PAGE 31, CALENDAR NO.

                    271, BILL NO. A.6970, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

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                                 ON BEHALF OF MRS. CLARK, BILL NO. 5436-A, ASSEMBLY

                    BILL RECALLED FROM THE SENATE.

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

                                 THE CLERK:  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELDER LAW.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MOTION TO RECONSIDER

                    THE VOTE BY WHICH THE BILL PASSED THE HOUSE.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE AND THE AMENDMENTS ARE

                    RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 WE DO HAVE A PRIVILEGED RESOLUTION, MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 RESOLUTION NO. 311, THE CLERK WILL READ.

                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION 311, MR.

                    BARRON.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION COMMEMORATING THE 96TH

                    BIRTHDAY OF MALCOLM X, AN ADVOCATE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND ONE OF THE

                    MOST INFLUENTIAL REVOLUTIONARY LEADERS IN HISTORY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BARRON ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. BARRON:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO MY

                    COLLEAGUES, TO THE SPEAKER.  THE PICTURE THAT ADORNS THE WALL BEHIND ME

                    IS THAT OF ONE OF THE MOST INCREDIBLY BRILLIANT ICONIC REVOLUTIONARY

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                    LEADERS EVER TO WALK THE STREETS OF AMERICA AND THE GLOBE OF THE WORLD.

                    THAT IS MALCOLM X, EL-HAJJ MALIK EL-SHABAZZ.  HE IS ALSO ONE WHO

                    HAS ADORNED HIS IMAGE AND SPIRIT THE CHAMBERS OF MY HEART, THE

                    CONTOURS OF MY MIND AND THE DEPTHS OF MY SOUL.  HE WAS THE ONE WHO

                    WOKE ME UP AND STEERED ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.  SO WHEN WE HONOR

                    MALCOLM X TODAY, AS OSSIE DAVIS SAID, WE HONOR THE TALLEST TREE IN OUR

                    FOREST.  WE HONOR OUR BLACK SHINING PRINCE.  IT WAS MALCOLM X WHO

                    AFTER HAVING A LIFE IN THE STREET CONVERTED TO ISLAM, JOINED THE NATION OF

                    ISLAM AND CLEANED UP THOUSANDS, THOUSANDS OF OUR PEOPLE WHO WERE

                    SUFFERING FROM THE OPPRESSION UNDER THIS RACIST, COLONIAL, CAPITALIST

                    SYSTEM.  HE CLEANED THEM UP AND MADE THEM VIABLE, PRODUCTIVE

                    MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.  IT WAS MALCOLM X THAT DURING THE 1960S

                    WHEN THIS SYSTEM WOULDN'T RESPOND RIGHT TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING,

                    MALCOLM X SAID, YOU BETTER LISTEN TO KING BECAUSE SOMETHING MORE

                    POWERFUL IS BEHIND IT, AND THAT'S BLACK POWER, BLACK NATIONALISM.  IT IS

                    BECAUSE OF MALCOLM X, THE FEAR THAT HE PUT IN THE HEARTS OF THIS SYSTEM

                    THAT THEY PAID MORE ATTENTION TO MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THE CIVIL

                    RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND PASSED THE HISTORIC VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE

                    CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.  BECAUSE THE SYSTEM SAID, WE BETTER DEAL WITH KING

                    BECAUSE IF THE PEOPLE GO WITH MALCOLM, WE'RE IN TROUBLE.  IT WAS

                    MALCOLM X THAT SAID, WE GOT TO GO FROM CIVIL RIGHTS TO HUMAN RIGHTS.

                    IF THEY DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE YOU AS A HUMAN BEING, THEN HOW WOULD

                    THEY EVER RECOGNIZE US AS CITIZENS?  AS MALCOLM WENT ON TO SAY THAT --

                    AND THIS WAS ONE OF HIS MORE FAMOUS QUOTES -- HE SAID, WE DECLARE OUR

                    RIGHT ON THIS EARTH TO BE A HUMAN BEING, TO BE RESPECTED AS HUMAN

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                    BEINGS, TO BE GIVEN THE RIGHTS OF HUMAN BEINGS IN THIS SOCIETY ON THIS

                    EARTH IN THIS DAY WHICH WE INTEND TO BRING INTO EXISTENCE BY ANY MEANS

                    NECESSARY.  IT WAS MALCOLM X THAT WENT ACROSS THE GLOBE, WENT TO

                    AFRICA.  LINKED OUR STRUGGLE AS AFRICANS HERE IN AMERICA TO THE

                    LIBERATION STRUGGLES ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA.  MALCOLM X LIFT UP THE

                    BANDUNG CONFERENCE AND SAID -- IN 1955 THERE WAS A CONFERENCE IN

                    BANDUNG, INDONESIA.  JUST THE AFRICAN AND ASIAN NATIONS CAME TOGETHER

                    TO TALK ABOUT LIBERATION AND REMOVING THE YOKE OF IMPERIALISM AND

                    COLONIALISM FROM THEIR STATES IN AFRICA AND ACROSS ASIA.  SHORTLY AFTER

                    THAT, THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA LIBERATED ITSELF, STARTING WITH KWAME

                    NKRUMAH IN 1957 WITH THE COUNTRY OF GHANA, THE STATE OF GHANA AND

                    THEN CAME THE CONGO AND THEN TANZANIA.  ALL OF THE AFRICAN NATIONS

                    LIBERATED.  MALCOLM TAUGHT US THAT.  MALCOLM BROUGHT THAT TO US.  AND

                    IT WAS MALCOLM X WHO WENT TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND SAID, WE HAVE

                    BEEN VIOLATED, OUR HUMAN RIGHTS, AND WE ARE AMONGST THE THREE GROUPS

                    THAT WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS COUNTRY.  ONE, THE EUROPEANS WHO

                    STOLE THE LAND FROM THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, THE SO-CALLED INDIANS, AND

                    THEN STOLE US FROM AFRICA TO BUILD THE ECONOMIC FOUNDATION OF

                    CAPITALISM.  YOU COULD BE SUCCESSFUL AT ANY BUSINESS IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE

                    TO PAY FOR REAL ESTATE OR LABOR.  THEY STOLE IT.  THAT'S HOW CAPITALISM

                    WAS BUILT AND THAT'S WHY MALCOLM DEMANDED AND MARTIN DEMANDED

                    AND WE DEMAND TODAY OUR REPARATIONS.  IT WAS MALCOLM X THAT WENT TO

                    THE OXFORD AND THE OXFORD DEBATE, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT EXTREMISM.

                    YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING.  EVERY TIME WE RESPOND TO OUR OPPRESSION,

                    THEY TALK ABOUT OUR RESPONSE.  NOT THE EXTREME OPPRESSION, BUT OUR

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                    EXTREMIST RESPONSE.  AND HE SAID, EXTREMISM IS A VIRTUE.  MODERATION

                    IN THE LIGHT OF EXTREME OPPRESSION IS A VICE.

                                 SO, MALCOLM X, WE HONOR YOU TODAY, OUR BLACK

                    SHINING PRINCE.  AND WE CAN NEVER HONOR MALCOLM X WITHOUT HONORING

                    HIS QUEEN, DR. BETTY SHABAZZ.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. -- YOUR TIME HAS

                    EXPIRED, SIR.  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. BARRON:  WELL LET ME JUST FINISH THIS LAST

                    SENTENCE.  AND WE HONOR DR. BETTY SHABAZZ AND WE HONOR MALCOLM X

                    ON THIS DAY AND HOW HE CAME TO THIS ASSEMBLY IN '65 WITH PERCY

                    SUTTON AND SAT RIGHT UP IN THE BALCONY AND WATCHED THE PROCEEDINGS.

                    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MALCOLM X.  LONG LIVE YOUR SPIRIT.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER FINE

                    RESOLUTIONS WHICH WE WILL ALSO TAKE UP WITH ONE VOTE.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 304-310 AND

                    312 WERE UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I NOW

                    MOVE THAT THE ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 12:30, THURSDAY, 12:30

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                    P.M. THURSDAY, MONDAY -- I'M SORRY, MAY THE 20TH, TOMORROW BEING A

                    SESSION DAY.  TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 6:11 P.M., THE HOUSE STOOD ADJOURNED

                    UNTIL THURSDAY, MAY 20TH AT 12:30 P.M., THAT BEING A SESSION DAY.)







































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