MONDAY, JANUARY 23, 2023 4:06 P.M.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME

TO ORDER.

IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

SILENCE.

(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

OF ALLEGIANCE.

(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

JOURNAL OF FRIDAY, JANUARY 20TH.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

THAT WE DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF FRIDAY,

JANUARY THE 20TH AND ASK THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

ORDERED.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, SIR.

COLLEAGUES AND VISITORS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER

ANOTHER QUOTE OF THE DAY. THIS ONE COMES FROM BERNICE KING. SHE IS

THE DAUGHTER OF THE LATE GREAT REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING. HER

WORDS FOR US TODAY. BEING TRUTHFUL ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR NATION AND

THE WORLD DOES NOT EQUAL LOSING HOPE. HOPE SEES TRUTH AND STILL

BELIEVES IN BETTER. THAT WHICH DISMISSES OR DOES NOT SEEK TRUTH BUT

GRINS SAYING "IT WILL BE OKAY," IS NAIVE. THAT'S NOT HOPE. AGAIN, MR.

SPEAKER, THESE ARE THE WORDS OF BERNICE KING, THE DAUGHTER OF THE LATE

MARTIN LUTHER KING.

COLLEAGUES HAVE ON THEIR DESK A MAIN CALENDAR.

THERE ARE THREE NEW BILLS ON IT, MR. SPEAKER, AND WE'RE GOING TO

CONTINUE TO CONSENT FROM OUR LAST WEEK CALENDAR BEGINNING WITH RULES

REPORT NO. 24. IT'S ON PAGE 5, AS WELL AS BEGINNING TO CONSENT NEW

BILLS ON PAGE 4. THAT'S A GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING,

COLLEAGUES. MR. SPEAKER, IF THERE ARE INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR

HOUSEKEEPING NOW WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE DO HAVE

INTRODUCTIONS.

MS. ROZIC FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

MS. ROZIC: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, MADAM

MAJORITY LEADER. I HAVE THE PLEASURE TODAY OF INTRODUCING EVIE

HANTZOPOULOS WHO SERVES AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE QUEENS

BOTANICAL GARDEN IN THE HEART OF QUEENS IN FLUSHING. JOINING EVIE

TODAY IS OLIVIA COTHREN, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT. SINCE ITS

INCEPTION DURING THE 1939 WORLD'S FAIR, THE QUEENS BOTANICAL GARDEN

HAS BEEN AN ESSENTIAL PLACE FOR NEW YORKERS WHO WANT TO ENJOY

NATURAL BEAUTY IN THE CITY AND BUILD COMMUNITY. THE QUEENS

BOTANICAL GARDEN IS AN URBAN OASIS WHERE PEOPLE, PLANTS, AND CULTURES

ARE CELEBRATED THROUGH INSPIRING GARDENS, INNOVATED EDUCATIONAL

PROGRAMS AND REAL-WORLD APPLICATIONS OF ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

EVIE IS AN AWARD-WINNING EDUCATOR NON-PROFIT LEADER

WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP, STRATEGIC

PLANNING, FUNDRAISING, AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT. AS A QUEENS

RESIDENT SHE IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AND SERVES ON

CB1 IN QUEENS. SHE CO-FOUNDED FRONTLINE FOODS QUEENS IN MARCH OF

2020 WHICH HAS PROVIDED OVER 60,000 MEALS FROM LOCAL RESTAURANTS TO

FRONTLINE HOSPITAL WORKERS, FOOD PANTRIES, AND NYCHA RESIDENTS

ACROSS QUEENS. SHE IS ALSO THE FOUNDING MEMBER OF ASTORIA MUTUAL

AID NETWORK, THE ASTORIA URBAN ECOLOGY ALLIANCE, AND THE 31ST

AVENUE OPEN STREET.

UNDER HER LEADERSHIP THE GARDEN CONTINUES TO FLOURISH

AND EVOLVE, CONSTRUCTION WILL SOON START ON A NEW EDUCATION CENTER

WHICH WILL HAVE FOUR CLASSROOMS, A TEACHING KITCHEN, AN EDUCATION

SOLARIUM, AND A GREEN ROOF, A SPACE FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

PROGRAMMING SCHEDULED TO OPEN IN LATE 2024, I HOPE YOU ALL COME AND

VISIT. YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO COME AND VISIT.

IT'S MY HONOR TODAY TO WELCOME EVIE AND OLIVIA TO

THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE AND ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE QUEENS DELEGATION I ASK

THAT YOU EXTEND THE CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR AND GIVE HER A HEARTY

WELCOME. THANK YOU.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF

OF MS. ROZIC, THE SPEAKER, AND ALL THE MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY THOSE OF

US FROM QUEENS, WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE

ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. AND I'VE BEEN

TOLD BY A LITTLE BIRD THAT TOMORROW WILL BE YOUR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY,

SO HAPPY THAT YOU CHOSE TO SPEND IT SO CLOSE TO HERE IN ALBANY. HOPE

YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, WELCOME.

(APPLAUSE)

MR. CHANG FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

MR. CHANG: GOOD AFTERNOON MR. SPEAKER, THANK

YOU VERY MUCH. LET ME REMIND YOU CHINESE NEW YEAR WAS YESTERDAY

AND WE HAD A TRAGEDY IN MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA. TEN PEOPLE PASSED

TRAGICALLY TWO DAYS AGO. I HAVE FRIENDS OVER THERE AND I CALLED THEM

AND FORTUNATELY THEY'RE NOT AFFECTED BY THAT BUT STILL WE HAVE TO BE

REMINDED VIOLENCE IS ALL OVER AROUND US. I HAVE THE PLEASURE AND THE

HONOR TO INTRODUCE FIVE PROMINENT CHINESE BUSINESS COMMUNITY

LEADERS REPRESENTED IN MY DISTRICT. AND THEY SPENT AWFUL LOT OF TIME

AND EFFORT TO PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. I'D LIKE TO

INTRODUCE FIVE PEOPLE HERE, JOHN CHEN. HE HAS BEEN SERVING THE ASIAN

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

COMMUNITY FOR YEARS, PRESIDENT OF ASIAN COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT,

AMERICAN CHINESE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AND AMERICAN CHINESE

CULINARY FEDERATION. HE'S BEEN DOING THIS BUSINESS FOR ABOUT OVER 30

YEARS SELFISHLY FOR OVER EVERY RESTAURANT IN MY DISTRICT. NEXT ONE IS

RAY HUANG. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICAN NEW YORK CHINESE

ASSOCIATION. HE CAME FROM FUZHOU, CHINA. THAT AREA HAS BEEN

EXPANDING IN MY AREA FUZHOU FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. HE'S BEEN

DEDICATED IN HIS COMMUNITY AND LIVED THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS WHEN

THERE WAS NOT THAT MANY CHINESE COMMUNITY, NOW THERE IS. AND HE

ALSO SERVED AS A NEW YORK POLICE -- AUXILIARY POLICE. NEXT PERSON IS

HUABIN LIN, IS CURRENTLY PRESIDENT OF 72 STEEL GROUP. HE'S ACTIVELY

INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY SERVICE AND WON NUMEROUS AWARD AND SERVED

AS A CONSULTANT FOR THE AMERICAN BUSINESS -- CHINESE BUSINESS --

CONSULTANT FOR HONG KONG GENERAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF THE

UNITED STATES AND THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF FUQING TOWNSMEN

ASSOCIATION. NEXT PERSON IS LI ZHU. HE BORN IN A VERY POOR AREA,

RURAL AREA IN CHINA. AND HE CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AND HE STARTED REAL

ESTATE BUSINESS AND VOLUNTEERED IN HIS COMMUNITY SERVICE SINCE 2003.

NOT MUCH EDUCATION BUT HE STARTED AND EXPANDED THE REAL ESTATE IN OUR

COMMUNITY. HE HELPED REGISTERED VOTERS AND HE'S A MEMBER OF THE

AMERICAN NEW YORK CHINESE ASSOCIATION AND HE REALLY, REALLY WORKED

VERY HARD FOR -- FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NEXT AND LAST IS WALLACE ZHANG.

HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF ALL-AMERICAN CHINESE ASSOCIATION, BEEN SERVING

THE CHINESE COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT OVER 20 YEARS. HE FOCUSED ON RIGHTS,

POLICIES, AND POLITICS OF EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S SOLELY

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

WE NEEDED IS -- IS A POLITICAL INFORMATION AND VOTING RIGHTS AND HE LEAD

THAT DIRECTION. AND SIR, FOR THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE, PLEASE RECOGNIZE AND

WELCOME THEM, SIR. THANK YOU.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF

OF MR. CHANG, THE SPEAKER, AND ALL THE MEMBERS WE WELCOME THIS

DISTINGUISHED GROUPS OF GENTLEMEN HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE

ASSEMBLY. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. YOU ARE

ALWAYS WELCOME HERE. WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL ENJOY YOUR TRIP TO

ALBANY ONE IN WHICH WE HAVE PROVIDED AS MUCH SNOW AS WE'VE HAD ALL

YEAR. SO I HOPE YOU'VE ENJOYED THAT AND I WOULD ASK THE MEMBERS TO

STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE LIVES LOST IN CALIFORNIA.

(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS HELD.)

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

(APPLAUSE)

MS. GIGLIO FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

MS. GIGLIO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I AM

PLEASED TO INTRODUCE MEMBERS OF THE SUFFOLK COUNTY POLICE

DEPARTMENT, POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION BOB CAPPADONA,

(INAUDIBLE) AND CHRISTOPHER WOLF WHO ARE HERE IN THE ASSEMBLY

CHAMBER WITH US TODAY. WE HAD A VERY FORTUNATE AND EXCITING EVENT A

FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN WE WELCOMED TWO OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT

OFFICERS FROM THE HOSPITAL BACK HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES. SO LAW

ENFORCEMENT PUTS THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE EVERY DAY TO PROTECT US AND I

WANT TO THANK THEM FOR PROTECTING LAW ENFORCEMENT IN SUFFOLK COUNTY.

AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GIVING THEM ALL THE CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF

OF MS. GIGLIO, THE SPEAKER, AND ALL THE MEMBERS, GENTLEMEN, WE

WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE

PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR BRAVERY.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO KEEP TO OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. THANK YOU SO VERY

MUCH.

(APPLAUSE)

WE WILL NOW GO TO RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3. ASSEMBLY

NO. 46, THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 46, MS.

ROSENTHAL.

LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM JANUARY 22ND THROUGH THE 28TH, 2023, AS

DATA PRIVACY WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. ROSENTHAL ON THE

RESOLUTION.

MS. ROSENTHAL: TODAY I RISE TO SPEAK ON THIS

RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING JANUARY 22ND THROUGH JANUARY 28TH, 2023, AS

DATA PRIVACY WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK. DATA PRIVACY WEEK IS A

GLOBAL INITIATIVE THAT AIMS TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE EVER-INCREASING USE

OF OUR PERSONAL DATA AND EDUCATE CONSUMERS ON WHEN AND HOW THEIR

PERSONAL DATA IS COLLECTED AND LEARN THE STEPS THEY CAN TAKE TO PROTECT

THEMSELVES. EVERY WEBSITE THAT WE VISIT, MOBILE APP WE DOWNLOAD, OR

PURCHASE THAT WE MAKE PROVIDES MORE OF OUR PERSONAL DATA TO THE

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

COMPANIES THAT WE ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH. INFORMATION ABOUT OUR

INTERESTS AND HABITS, ITEMS WE PURCHASE AND OTHER CHARACTERISTICS ARE

COLLECTED ALLOWING COMPANIES TO BUILD A DIGITAL PROFILE OF EACH OF US

THAT CAN BE LEVERAGE TO MAKE THEIR BUSINESS MORE PROFITABLE. AS THE

USE OF TECHNOLOGY EXPANDS, WE ARE TRADING AWAY MORE OF OUR PRIVACY

IN EXCHANGE FOR CONVENIENCE AND OFTENTIMES WE'RE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT

IT'S HAPPENING. WARNINGS THAT YOUR DATA MAY BE SOLD OR SHARED WITH

THIRD-PARTIES MIGHT BE HIDDEN SOMEWHERE IN A LONG TECHNICAL PRIVACY

AGREEMENT OR IT MAY NOT BE DISCLOSED AT ALL. THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE

USE EACH DAY MAY EVEN COLLECT BIOMETRIC INFORMATION LIKE OUR

FINGERPRINTS, VOICEPRINTS AND OTHER IDENTIFIERS. TIME AND TIME AGAIN

WE'VE SEEN THIS DATA ENDING UP IN THE WRONG HANDS AND BE USED FOR THE

WRONG PURPOSES. IN SOME STATES IT HAS EVEN BEEN WEAPONIZED TO MAKE

INFERENCES ABOUT A WOMAN'S HEALTHCARE DECISIONS. DATA PRIVACY WEEK

INTENDS TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THESE RISKS AND ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS

TO CAREFULLY REVIEW THE DATA THEY MAY BE SHARING AND BE PROACTIVE IN

DETERMINING WHAT INFO MIGHT BE SHARED WHEN SIGNING UP FOR NEW

WEBSITES ABSENT SERVICES. BY DECLARING THIS WEEK DATA PRIVACY WEEK

IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK WE CAN BEGIN THE DIALOG AND UNDERSCORE THE

GROWING URGENCY OF PROTECTING OUR PERSONAL DATA. THANK YOU.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.

MR. VANEL ON THE RESOLUTION.

MR. VANEL: FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE

SPONSOR FOR ENTERING THIS RESOLUTION. OUR DATA IS COLLECTED EVERY DAY.

ON YOUR COMPUTER, ON YOUR SMARTPHONE, ON PRETTY MUCH ALMOST EVERY

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

DEVICE THAT IS CONNECTED ON -- ON THE INTERNET, WHICH MAY EVEN INCLUDE

YOUR WRISTWATCH AND YOUR CAR, BUT YOU -- BUT PEOPLE OFTEN SOMETIMES

DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT DATA IS BEING -- THE DATA BEING COLLECTED,

SHARED OR SOLD. THE GOAL OF DATA PROTECTION WEEK IS TO SPREAD

AWARENESS ABOUT ONLINE PRIVACY. WE THINK THAT DATA PRIVACY SHOULD BE

A PRIORITY FOR BOTH INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS. WE

HAVE TO MAKE SURE NOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW,

HOW THEY'RE ENLIGHTENED ABOUT HOW THEIR DATA IS BEING USED AND WE

HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ORGANIZATIONS ALSO RESPONSIBLY USE THE DATA AND

THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MANAGE THE DATA USAGE. SO TODAY IS ABOUT

MAKING SURE -- AND THIS WEEK IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE

AWARE OF DATA AND DATA PROTECTION AND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE

RIGHT WAY. THANK YOU.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.

ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 47, MR.

MAGNARELLI. LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR KATHY

HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM JANUARY 22ND THROUGH THE 28TH, 2023, AS ENROLLED

AGENT WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS

ADOPTED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 48, MS.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

PAULIN.

LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM JANUARY 22ND THROUGH THE 28TH, 2023, AS

CERTIFIED REGISTERED NURSE ANESTHETIST WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW

YORK.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS

ADOPTED.

PAGE 4 [SIC], RULES REPORT NO. 24, THE CLERK WILL

READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00620, RULES REPORT

NO. 24, BRONSON. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, THE GENERAL

MUNICIPAL LAW, THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, AND THE HIGHWAY LAW, IN

RELATION TO AWARDING A CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF ROCK SALT OR SODIUM

CHLORIDE; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2022 AMENDING THE

STATE FINANCE LAW, THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES

LAW AND THE HIGHWAY LAW RELATING TO ENACTING THE NEW YORK STATE

BUY AMERICAN SALT ACT, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S.

9441 AND A. 7919-A, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.

BRONSON, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS

ADVANCED.

READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

THE VOTE. FIRST VOTE OF THE DAY, MEMBERS. PLEASE, IF YOU ARE IN YOUR

SEATS VOTE NOW, VOTE IMMEDIATELY, SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MR. TAGUE TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

MR. TAGUE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, TO EXPLAIN

MY VOTE. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE SPONSOR OF THIS BILL

FOR MAKING THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED AND ASKED FOR PRIOR.

THIS MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE THE WAY IT IS NOW AND FOR THOSE REASONS

I'LL BE VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. TAGUE IN THE

AFFIRMATIVE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00621, RULES REPORT

NO. 25, BURDICK. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION

TO ESTABLISHING A THRESHOLD FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK NEEDED TO BE

PERFORMED BY A PREFERRED SOURCE WHICH IS AN APPROVED CHARITABLE

NON-PROFIT-MAKING AGENCY FOR THE BLIND; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL

OF SUCH PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.

BURDICK, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS

ADVANCED. READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MR. BURDICK TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

MR. BURDICK: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THIS BILL

WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THIS HOUSE AND IN THE SENATE AS WELL. AND

IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE BILL THAT WAS NEEDED TO MODERNIZE IN A MUCH

NEEDED MODERNIZATION OF WHAT'S CALLED A PREFERRED SOURCE PROVISION OF

THE NEW YORK STATE FINANCE LAW. AND THE CHAPTER AMENDMENT ALSO

IS VERY SIMPLE. IT'S SIMPLY IS TO CLARIFY TO TECHNICAL CORRECTION TO CLARIFY

THAT IT'S ALSO INTENDED TO SERVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VISUALLY IMPAIRED OR

BLIND. SO I WANT TO THANK THE LEADERSHIP FOR BRINGING THIS LAST SESSION

TO THE FLOOR AND GETTING IT THROUGH AND THE GOVERNOR FOR HAVING SIGNED

IT INTO LAW. THANK YOU.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, MR.

BURDICK.

MEMBERS, YOU'RE REMINDED THAT THE VOTE IS ON THE

BOARD. PLEASE CAST YOUR BALLOT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00622, RULES REPORT

NO. 26, O'DONNELL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, IN

RELATION TO THE APPLICABILITY OF CERTAIN LABOR LAW PROVISIONS TO THE

CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN PARKING FACILITIES; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF

THE LAWS OF 2022 AMENDING THE STATE FINANCE LAW RELATING TO

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

REQUIRING THE CONSTRUCTION OF CERTAIN PARKING FACILITIES TO BE CAPABLE OF

SUPPORTING ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE

BILLS NUMBERS S. 23-B AND A. 4386-B, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS

THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MR. PALMESANO TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

MR. PALMESANO: YES, MR. SPEAKER, AND MY

COLLEAGUES TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I KNOW ON THE FACE OF IT THIS LOOKS LIKE

A PREVAILING WAGE BILL FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS BUT IT GIVES

ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER IMPORTANT ISSUE WHEN IT COMES

TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SOMETHING I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AND WILL

CONTINUE TO DO SO IN THE FUTURE. YES, THIS PERTAINS TO ELECTRIC VEHICLE

CHARGING STATIONS, PREVAILING WAGE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO PUT THEM

IN, BUT AS YOU GO DOWN THE SUPPLY CHAIN OF WHERE IT STARTS AT FOR THESE

ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THE MATERIALS AND ELEMENTS YOU NEED TO PRODUCE

THESE BATTERIES ARE MINED -- 70 PERCENT OF THEM ARE MINED IN THE

DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO. THEY'RE USING CHILD LABOR, SOME 35-

TO 40,000 KIDS ARE -- ARE BEING ESTIMATED IN THE CONGO TO MINE THIS

LABOR. KIDS ARE DYING. THEY'RE BEING MAIMED IN THESE MINING CLASSES.

YOU WONDER HOW MUCH THESE KIDS GET PAID? HOW ABOUT $1 A DAY.

ONE DOLLAR A DAY, THEIR HANDLER GETS $5 A DAY. THEY HAVE TO GO THERE

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY $6 A MONTH TO GO TO SCHOOL. WE CAN ALL

LAUGH ABOUT THIS AND THINK THIS IS A BIG JOKE, IT'S NOT. THIS IS IMPORTANT

PUBLIC POLICY. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THIS ANY FURTHER. YOU OWN THIS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND YOU THINK THIS IS MAKING AN

IMPACT IN OUR GLOBAL EMISSIONS, IT'S NOT. NEW YORK STATE CONTRIBUTES

0.4 PERCENT, 0.4 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL GLOBAL EMISSIONS. BUT YET CHINA

CONTRIBUTES 29 PERCENT, HAS A THOUSAND COAL PLANTS AND BUILDING MORE.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE PAPER JUST RECENTLY, THEY'RE EXPANDING THEIR

CAPACITY BY 70 GIGAWATTS OF COAL ON TOP OF 40 LAST YEAR. WE'RE NOT

MAKING AN IMPACT ON THIS. INDIA'S 7 PERCENT, RUSSIA'S 4 PERCENT.

FORGET ABOUT THE COST BUT THERE ARE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS THAT ARE

GOING ON THERE. YOU TALK ABOUT ISSUES WITH OIL RIGS AND FRACKING PLANTS

-- WELL, YOU KNOW THING? I DON'T SEE ANY CHILD WORKING ON OIL RIGS AND

ON FRACKING WELLS. THEY'RE WORKING TO PRODUCE THESE ELECTRIC -- THESE

ELEMENTS FOR THESE ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT YOU ALL PROBABLY THINK ARE

SUCH A GREAT THING FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT, WHICH ISN'T. IT'S POISONING

WELLS, IT'S POISONING STREAMS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU DON'T SEE IT, YOU

DON'T CARE ABOUT. AS LONG AS KIDS AREN'T DYING HERE IN THE U.S. AND

THEY'RE DYING IN AFRICA YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT. AS LONG AS WELLS AREN'T AND

WATER'S NOT BEING POISONED HERE IN THE U.S., IT'S HAPPENING IN AFRICA

YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MEET OUR CLEAN ENERGY BILLS.

AND OUR CLEAN ENERGY BILLS AREN'T GOING TO MAKE ONE IOTA DIFFERENCE.

WE CAN GET DOWN TO ZERO PERCENT IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER WITH CHINA

CONTINUING TO POLLUTE, WITH CHINA CONTINUING TO USE COAL, BECAUSE THE

CLCPA --

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: HOW DO YOU VOTE,

SIR?

MR. PALMESANO: I VOTE NO BECAUSE I'M GOING TO

CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. PALMESANO IN THE

NEGATIVE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00623, RULES REPORT

NO. 27, ZEBROWSKI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO

REQUIREMENTS FOR IN-SERVICE TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT

PERSONNEL.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.

ZEBROWSKI, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS

ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00624, RULES REPORT

NO. 28, ZEBROWSKI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW AND THE

EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO THE OVERSIGHT OF CERTAIN CONTRACTS BY THE

COMPTROLLER.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00625, RULES REPORT

NO. 29, THIELE. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO

EXEMPTING HOT TUBS OR SPAS FROM CERTAIN STANDARDS OF THE NEW YORK

STATE UNIFORM FIRE PREVENTION AND BUILDING CODE.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00626-A, RULES

REPORT NO. 30, OTIS. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION

TO FLOOD PLAIN STANDARDS OF CONSTRUCTION.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00631, RULES REPORT

NO. 31, CARROLL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY LAW, IN RELATION TO

REQUIRING RESIDENTIAL LEASES TO INCLUDE INFORMATION ON PRIOR FLOOD

DAMAGE.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00632, RULES REPORT

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

NO. 32, DINOWITZ. AN ACT TO AMEND THE DOMESTIC RELATIONS LAW, IN

RELATION TO MANDATORY TRAINING OF A FORENSIC EVALUATOR IN RELATION TO

COURT ORDERED FORENSIC EVALUATIONS INVOLVING CHILD CUSTODY AND

VISITATION WHEN THE CHILD IS LIVING OUT-OF-STATE; TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE

LAW, IN RELATION TO TRAINING IN THE PREVENTION AND INTERVENTION OF

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REQUIRED FOR FORENSIC INVESTIGATORS; AND TO AMEND A

CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2022 AMENDING THE DOMESTIC RELATIONS LAW

AND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, RELATING TO COURT ORDERED FORENSIC EVALUATIONS

INVOLVING CHILD CUSTODY AND VISITATION, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS

NUMBERS S. 6385-B AND A. 2375-C, RELATING TO THE EFFECTIVENESS

THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00966, RULES REPORT

NO. 33, MCDONALD. AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY ACTIONS AND

PROCEEDINGS LAW, IN RELATION TO INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION

DURING CERTAIN SPECIAL PROCEEDINGS BY TENANTS; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER

OF THE LAWS OF 2022 AMENDING THE REAL PROPERTY ACTIONS AND

PROCEEDINGS LAW RELATING TO SPECIAL PROCEEDINGS BY TENANTS OF

DWELLINGS OUTSIDE THE CITY OF NEW YORK AND CERTAIN COUNTIES FOR

JUDGMENT DIRECTING DEPOSIT OF RENTS AND THE USE THEREOF FOR THE PURPOSE

OF REMEDYING CONDITIONS DANGEROUS TO LIFE, HEALTH OR SAFETY, AS

PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBER S. 6721 AND A. 3241, IN RELATION

TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00968, RULES REPORT

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

NO. 34, BICHOTTE HERMELYN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT

CORPORATION ACT, IN RELATION TO ALLOWING BUSINESS TO USE FUNDS RECEIVED

FROM THE MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND

LENDING PROGRAM FOR THE PURPOSE OF REFINANCING EXISTING DEBT.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

DAY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ACTING SPEAKER ANDERSON: ARE THERE ANY

OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00983, RULES REPORT

NO. 35, MAGNARELLI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY ACTION AND

PROCEEDINGS LAW, THE UNIFORM CITY COURT ACT, THE UNIFORM DISTRICT

COURT ACT, THE UNIFORM JUSTICE COURT ACT, AND THE NEW YORK CITY

CIVIL COURT ACT, IN RELATION TO JURISDICTION OF PROCEEDINGS UNDER THE

TENANT DIGNITY AND SAFE HOUSING ACT; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE

LAWS OF 2022 ENACTING THE TENANT DIGNITY AND SAFE HOUSING ACT, AS

PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S.4594-B AND A. 354-B, IN

RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER ANDERSON: THE BILL IS LAID

ASIDE.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00989, RULES REPORT

NO. 36, PEOPLES-STOKES. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW AND THE

STATE FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS

ENTERPRISE FRAUD AND THE MONIES OF THE MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED

BUSINESS ENTERPRISE FUND; TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2022

AMENDING THE EXECUTIVE LAW AND THE STATE FINANCE LAW RELATING TO

MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES POST COMPLETION

CERTIFICATION, DUTIES OF THE DIRECTOR AND CREATING THE MINORITY AND

WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE FUND, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE

BILLS NUMBERS S. 3390-A AND A. 9259-A, IN RELATION TO THE

EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF; AND TO REPEAL CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE EXECUTIVE

LAW RELATING THERETO.

ACTING SPEAKER ANDERSON: READ THE LAST

SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER ANDERSON: THE CLERK WILL

RECORD THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ARE THERE ANY OTHER

VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00990, RULES REPORT

NO. 37, FAHY. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO

THE PURCHASE OR LEASE OF ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AND CHARGING OR

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE; AND REPEALING CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE

EXECUTIVE LAW RELATING THERETO.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

WE WILL PROCEED TO PAGE 4, CALENDAR NO. 1.

THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00076, CALENDAR NO.

1, L. ROSENTHAL, BRONSON, SEAWRIGHT. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC

HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING PRE-ADMISSION NOTIFICATION OF

POLICIES AUTHORIZING THE REFUSAL TO FOLLOW DIRECTIVES IN HEALTH CARE

PROXIES THAT ARE CONTRARY TO A HOSPITAL'S OPERATING PRINCIPLES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00117, CALENDAR NO.

2, PAULIN, SILLITTI, SAYEGH. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN

RELATION TO ADDING "EMBRYO" TO THE DEFINITION OF "TISSUE" FOR PURPOSE OF

TISSUE STORAGE.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A1283, CALENDAR NO.

3, SEAWRIGHT, LUPARDO, SOLAGES. CONCURRENT RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE

AND ASSEMBLY PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 11 OF ARTICLE 1 OF

THE CONSTITUTION, IN RELATION TO EQUAL PROTECTION.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: TO PAGE 5, RULES REPORT

NO. 2 BY DINOWITZ.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CLERK WILL READ.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00612, RULES REPORT

NO. 2, DINOWITZ. AN ACT RELATING TO THE AVAILABILITY OF TRAINING FOR STATE

APPROVED EDUCATION OR TRAINING PROGRAMS REQUIRED FOR CERTIFICATION OF

HOME HEALTH AIDES, PERSONAL CARE AIDES, AND CERTIFIED NURSE AIDES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.

DINOWITZ, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS

ADVANCED.

AN EXPLANATION IS REQUESTED, MR. DINOWITZ.

MR. DINOWITZ: THIS BILL IS A CHAPTER AMENDMENT

-- EXCUSE ME, TO LEGISLATION WE PASSED LAST YEAR, AND IT MAKES A FEW

MINOR CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION. IT AMENDS CHAPTER 737 OF

THE LAWS OF LAST YEAR BY MANDATING DOH TO REQUIRE TRAINING, THAT'S IN

QUOTES, RATHER THAN QUOTE, DEVELOP A TRAINING PROGRAM UNIT, AS WELL AS

TO CLARIFY THE TITLES WHICH MUST BE COMPLETE -- WHICH MUST COMPLETE

THE TRAINING. THE BILL ALSO EXTENDS THE AMOUNT OF TIME WHICH DOH

MUST TAKE TO MAKE THIS TRAINING PROGRAM AVAILABLE FROM SIX MONTHS TO

12 MONTHS.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD

THE SPONSOR YIELD?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. DINOWITZ, WILL

YOU YIELD?

MR. DINOWITZ: YES.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. DINOWITZ YIELDS,

SIR.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. DINOWITZ. IS THERE

ANY DIFFERENCE IN HEALTHCARE STANDARDS OR PRACTICES OR PROCEDURES THAT

WOULD APPLY BASED ON A PERSON'S SEXUAL ORIENTATION OR GENDER IDENTITY

OR EXPRESSION?

MR. DINOWITZ: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ISSUE IS

ADDRESSED IN THE CHAPTER AMENDMENT. IT MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED OR

NOT ADDRESSED IN THE UNDERLYING BILL.

MR. GOODELL: AND ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY

DIFFERENCES IN HOW HEALTH CARE SHOULD BE PROVIDED?

MR. DINOWITZ: MR. GOODELL, I'M HERE TO DEBATE

THE BILL, NOT RELITIGATE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASSED LAST YEAR.

MR. GOODELL: I SEE. AND THIS CHAPTER

AMENDMENT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT NEED THIS TRAINING ON

HOW TO WORK WITH PATIENTS OF DIVERSE SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER

IDENTITY AND EXPRESSION, CORRECT?

MR. DINOWITZ: REDUCES THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE

YOU SAID?

MR. GOODELL: YES.

MR. DINOWITZ: I THINK IT ELIMINATES ONE -- IT

ELIMINATES THE WORDS -- PERSONAL CARE STAFF. I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR

ASKED FOR IT TO BE ELIMINATED BASED ON IT BEING REDUNDANT. IT DOESN'T

ELIMINATE ANYTHING, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE AS FAR AS I

CAN SEE.

MR. GOODELL: I SEE. SO IT KEEPS THE PHRASE

PERSONAL CARE AIDE AND TAKES OUT THE PHRASE PERSONAL CARE STAFF AND IT'S

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF AND AIDES ARE ONE IN THE SAME.

MR. DINOWITZ: I THINK COLLECTIVELY IF YOU LOOK AT

WHAT'S INCLUDED IT'S THE SAME, YES.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

DINOWITZ.

MR. DINOWITZ: YOU'RE WELCOME.

MR. GOODELL: ON THE BILL, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.

GOODELL.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO BE

HONEST WITH YOU, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE QUALITY OF CARE OR

THE STANDARDS OF CARE OR THE MEDICAL SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO A

PATIENT IN A HEALTHCARE FACILITY SHOULD IN ANY WAY DEPEND ON WHETHER

THEY LIKE MEN OR WOMEN OR BOTH OR NEITHER OR DON'T KNOW. A PERSON'S

SEXUAL IDENTITY, GENDER IDENTITY, GENDER EXPRESSION OR SEXUAL

ORIENTATION SHOULD HAVE ZERO IMPACT ON THEIR RIGHT TO RECEIVE

HIGH-QUALITY CARE. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE LEGISLATION WHICH

PURPORTS TO REQUIRE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE HEALTHCARE FIELD TO TAKE

TRAINING THAT FOCUSES ON HOW TO WORK WITH PEOPLE BASED ON DIVERSE

SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER IDENTITY AND EXPRESSION. OUR STANDARDS

SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR AND UNEQUIVOCAL AND I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS

SPECIALIZED TRAINING. EVERY SINGLE PERSON REGARDLESS OF WHO THEY ARE,

REGARDLESS OF THEIR WEALTH, THEIR COLOR, THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION, THEIR

GENDER, OR ANYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO HIGH-QUALITY CARE. AND

WE SHOULDN'T NEED SPECIALIZED TRAINING TO SAY THAT SIMPLE FACT AND TAKE

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

AWAY FROM THE TRAINING THAT FOCUSES ON THAT QUALITY OF CARE. FOR THAT

REASON I WILL CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH AS THE SPONSOR

ACKNOWLEDGED DOES NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. THANK

YOU, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES PEOPLE TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.

SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I ACTUALLY RISE TO

COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE. I -- I DO HEAR THE WORDS OF MY COLLEAGUE ON

THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AND HONESTLY I RESPECT HIM, BUT I KNOW THE

REALITY OF THE LIFE THAT WE LIVE RIGHT NOW IN NEW YORK AND RIGHT NOW IN

AMERICA. AND EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN OR ARE OF A DIFFERENT

RACE OR WHATEVER, THERE ARE SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING

NOT TO LIKE THAT. AND EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE JOB THEY STILL HAVE TO

DO IT. AND SO SOMETIMES YOU DO NEED TO HAVE EXTRA TRAINING AND/OR

SENSITIVITY TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THE SERVICE. IF IN FACT,

MR. SPEAKER, IF THAT WAS NOT A PROBLEM THERE WOULDN'T BE SUCH

DISPARITIES IN HEALTH CARE. CLEARLY. AND SO I THINK THE -- THE SPONSOR OF

THIS LEGISLATION IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THIS. I COMMEND HIM FOR IT

AND I'M GRATEFUL I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT IT.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF WE CAN

NOW GO TO -- STAY ON PAGE 5 AND GO RIGHT TO RULES REPORT NO. 10 BY

MS. PAULIN.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL READ.

THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A00979, RULES REPORT

NO. 10, PAULIN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION LAW

AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO CLARIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED

TO THE CREATION, OPERATION, AND DUTIES OF NATURAL ORGANIC REDUCTION

FACILITIES AS CEMETERY COOPERATIONS; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS

OF 2022 AMENDING THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION LAW, RELATING TO THE

CREATION, OPERATION, AND DUTIES OF NATURAL ORGANIC REDUCTION FACILITIES AS

CEMETERY CORPORATIONS, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S.

5535 AND A. 382, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AN EXPLANATION HAS

BEEN REQUESTED, MS. PAULIN.

MS. PAULIN: (INAUDIBLE/MIC OFF) -- THE ORIGINAL BILL

-- CHAPTER WHICH IS NOW CHAPTER WHICH IS CHAPTER 817 OF 2022. AND TO

PROVIDE SOME TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS TO -- TO ALIGN PUBLIC HEALTH LAW

WITH THE -- THE LAWS THAT WE HAD AMENDED PREVIOUSLY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. LEMONDES.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WILL

THE SPONSOR YIELD FOR A FEW QUESTIONS?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. PAULIN, WILL YOU

YIELD?

MS. PAULIN: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR YIELDS,

SIR.

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU. IN OUR DEBATE LAST

TIME WE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND ON THIS. I'D LIKE TO ASK A FEW MORE

QUESTIONS WITH THIS VERSION OF THIS BILL. ARE THERE ANY CONTROLS IN PLACE

FOR THE PREVENTION OF HUMAN REMAINS BEING USED AS FERTILIZER?

MS. PAULIN: YOU'RE SAYING -- YOU'RE ASKING IF IT CAN

BE USED FOR HUMAN FERTILIZER?

MR. LEMONDES: I'M SAYING ARE THERE CONTROLS TO

PREVENT IT FROM BEING USED.

MS. PAULIN: I SEE. NOT -- NOT CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE

BILL. IF SOMEONE DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO USE NATURAL ORGANIC

REDUCTION, THEN THEY WOULD BE GIVEN THE REMAINS AND THEY COULD USE IT

FOR FERTILIZER IN ANY WAY THEY WANT.

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

AND WOULD -- WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON THE IMPACT OF THE

FUNERAL HOME INDUSTRY AND PROCESSING OF REMAINS AS WE TYPICALLY HAVE

DONE SO?

MS. PAULIN: I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE

QUESTION.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

MR. LEMONDES: SO WOULD THIS -- WOULD THIS BILL

IMPACT THE FUNERAL HOME INDUSTRY WITH RESPECT TO HOW HUMAN REMAINS

ARE TYPICALLY BURIED?

MS. PAULIN: IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE -- THE FUNERAL

HOMES. THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED UNDER THIS BILL TO DO THIS. IT WOULD

ALLOW FOR CEMETERIES TO -- TO HAVE A FACILITY WHERE A PERSON THEY HAD

SOMEONE THEY LOVE DIE AND THEY WANTED TO USE THIS PROCESS, A THIRD

PROCESS NATURAL ORGANIC REDUCTION. SO IT WOULD ALLOW CEMETERIES TO SET

THIS UP.

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT. IN

ADDITION, AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, COULD YOU -- COULD YOU COMMENT

ON THE IMPACT OF THE DEPARTURE FROM THE NORM WITH RESPECT TO THE TWO

WAYS MOST FAITHS HAVE HANDLED THE REMAINS OF THEIR LOVED ONES FOR THE

LAST SEVERAL THOUSANDS YEARS? AND I WOULD -- THOSE ARE EITHER

CREMATION OR BURIAL.

MS. PAULIN: SURE. SO AS YOU POINT OUT, YOU KNOW,

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF WAYS TO DEAL WITH HUMAN REMAINS CURRENTLY IN

THE LAW, NOW THIS THIRD ONE. THE TWO ORIGINAL WAYS YOU COULD BURY

SOMEONE, AS EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH, AND TO DO THAT, TYPICALLY

SOMEONE IS PRESERVED WITH FORMALDEHYDE WHICH THEN GOES

UNDERGROUND AND POLLUTES THE EARTH. THE -- AND ALSO TAKES UP A LOT OF

ROOM, COFFIN. AND THE OTHER WAY, CREMATION YOU ESSENTIALLY USE HEAT

TO BURN THE BODY WHICH THEN RESULTS IN ASHES AND THAT ALLOWS FOR A LOT

OF CARBONS IN THE AIR. THIS THIRD MECHANISM THAT WE ARE -- HAVE

ALREADY SIGNED INTO LAW THAT WE'RE CLARIFYING, AS I SAID, WOULD DO

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY-FRIENDLY AND IT'S SIMILAR

TO BOTH IN A WAY. SO INSTEAD OF BURYING THE HUMAN REMAINS AND

COVERING IT WITH FORMALDEHYDE YOU WOULD PUT IT IN A CAVERN OF SORTS

ABOVE GROUND, COVER IT WITH NATURAL ALFALFA AND OTHER TYPES OF WAYS IN A

ENVIRONMENTALLY-FRIENDLY WAY TO HAVE THE BODY DISINTEGRATE WITHIN

FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. IT THEN TURNS INTO ASHES OR NOT ASHES BUT IT TURNS INTO

A COMPOST WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE CREMATION, SMALLER VERSION OF THE

HUMAN REMAINS. AND LIKE CREMATION WE GIVE THE REMAINS TO THE FAMILY

AND/OR SIMILAR TO BURIAL YOU COULD BURY THE REMAINS IN THE CEMETERY.

SO IT'S IN BETWEEN BUT IT'S MUCH MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY-FRIENDLY. IT

DOESN'T PRODUCE CARBONS, IT DOESN'T POLLUTE THE EARTH AND IT -- AND IT

PROVIDES A MECHANISM FOR DEALING WITH THE HUMAN REMAINS THAT ALLOWS

THE FAMILY TO -- TO PRESERVE IT IN A -- IN A WAY THAT THEY EITHER -- THAT

THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE, AND IT'S CERTAINLY A MAY. IT'S NOT A MUST BUT

ALLOWS THAT OPTION.

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU. SO IF I UNDERSTAND

YOU CORRECTLY, THIS -- THIS BILL WOULD NOT ATTEMPT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR

FORM TO DISPLACE HUMAN BURIAL AS IS PRACTICED BY MOST OF THE MAJOR

RELIGIONS.

MS. PAULIN: NO, NOT AT ALL. I THINK IT'S GOING TO

BECOME THE -- THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE BUT TIME WILL TELL. BUT CERTAINLY IT

DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY DO IT NOW.

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.

MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, SIR.

MR. LEMONDES: THANK YOU. AS AN ORTHODOX

CHRISTIAN I CAN'T CONDONE THIS METHOD. I -- I OPPOSE IT ON RELIGIOUS

GROUNDS AND URGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. ALSO, IT'S UNCLEAR

TO ME TO THE -- TO THE DEPARTURE FROM THE NORM AS TO WHY WE WOULD

IMPLEMENT THIS IN NEW YORK STATE. THANK YOU.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.

MS. WALSH.

MS. WALSH: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD THE

SPONSOR YIELD FOR A QUICK QUESTION?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. PAULIN, WILL YOU

YIELD?

MS. PAULIN: I'D BE HAPPY TO.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: SPONSOR YIELDS.

MS. WALSH: THANK YOU. SO SOMEBODY CAME OVER

TO ME A FEW -- A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND ASKED ME A QUESTION I DIDN'T

KNOW THE ANSWER TO ABOUT THIS BILL SO I'M ASKING IT HERE. ARE THERE ANY

-- ARE THERE ANY BODIES THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE

THIS PROCESS? FOR EXAMPLE, THE PERSON MENTIONED TO ME WHAT ABOUT IF

SOMEBODY HAD GONE THROUGH ROUNDS AND ROUNDS OF CHEMO, FOR

EXAMPLE. WOULD THAT -- BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THAT IT DOES NOT

-- THIS PROCESS DOES NOT POLLUTE THE EARTH IN ANY WAY. WOULD THAT BODY

STILL BE ELIGIBLE TO -- TO HAVE -- TO HAVE THIS CHOICE?

MS. PAULIN: I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT MY

UNDERSTANDING IS THAT -- THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW,

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

PHYSICALLY ON THE BODY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MIGHT -- THAT MAY NOT

DECOMPOSE THAT MAY HAVE TO BE REMOVED PRIOR TO THAT PROCEDURE. BUT

THAT IF THE BODY WAS -- IF IT WAS CHEMO OR SOMETHING ELSE I DON'T SEE

HOW THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

MS. WALSH: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.

THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD

THE VOTE.

(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

MR. LAVINE TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

MR. LAVINE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'VE

LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES WITH RESPECT TO THIS BILL AND I'M GOING TO BE

VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR A LIVELY

DEBATE.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. LAVINE IN THE

AFFIRMATIVE.

MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AS

ACKNOWLEDGED BY MY COLLEAGUE THERE'S CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION TO THIS

BILL LAST YEAR PRIMARILY FROM THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY, THE CATHOLICS,

THE FUNERAL DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION, WHICH PROBABLY EXPLAINS WHY THERE

WERE 52 NO VOTES LAST YEAR. I VOTED NO LAST YEAR AND I'LL CONTINUE TO

VOTE THIS YEAR AGAINST THIS BILL. THANK YOU, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, MR.

NYS ASSEMBLY JANUARY 23, 2023

GOODELL IN THE NEGATIVE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

THE BILL IS PASSED.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

HAVE ANY OTHER RESOLUTIONS OR FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING?

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE HAVE NEITHER

RESOLUTIONS NOR HOUSEKEEPING, MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: OKAY. I NOW MOVE THAT

THE ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL 12:00 NOON, TUESDAY, JANUARY THE

24TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY, SIR.

ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

ADJOURNED.

(WHEREUPON, AT 5:22 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD

ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, JANUARY 24TH AT 12:00 P.M., TUESDAY BEING A

SESSION DAY.)