MONDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2024 3:22 P.M.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE HOUSE WILL COME
TO ORDER.
IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF
SILENCE, AND IN THIS MOMENT, LET US GIVE THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO AJ
SMULLEN AND THE FAMILY.
(WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)
VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE
OF ALLEGIANCE.
(WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND
MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)
A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE
JOURNAL OF SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO
DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF SUNDAY, FEBRUARY
THE 25TH AND THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO
ORDERED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. COLLEAGUES AND MULTIPLE GUESTS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBERS, I
WANT TO START OUR SESSION TODAY WITH A QUOTE. THIS ONE IS FROM NIPSEY
HUSSLE, NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH NIPSEY RUSSELL. NIPSEY HUSSLE WAS
AN AMERICAN RAPPER, AN ENTREPRENEUR AND AN ACTIVIST. HIS WORDS FOR US
TODAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR CIRCLE AND YOU DO NOT GET
INSPIRED, YOU DO NOT HAVE A CIRCLE, YOU HAVE A CAGE. AGAIN, THESE
WORDS FROM NIPSEY HUSSLE.
MR. SPEAKER, COLLEAGUES HAVE ON THEIR DESK A MAIN
CALENDAR. IT HAS 18 NEW BILLS ON IT. AFTER YOU HAVE DONE ANY
INTRODUCTIONS OR HOUSEKEEPING, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP RESOLUTIONS --
CALENDAR RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3. WE WILL BE CALLING FOR THE FOLLOWING
COMMITTEES TO MEET OFF THE FLOOR: GOVERNMENT [SIC] OPERATIONS AND
RULES. THESE COMMITTEES ARE GONNA PRODUCE AN A-CALENDAR, WHICH
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP TODAY. WHILE THESE COMMITTEES ARE MEETING,
WE WILL BEGIN TO CONSENT THE NEW BILLS, BEGINNING WITH CALENDAR NO.
305, IT'S ON PAGE 4. BUT FIRST, IT WOULD BE MY HONOR TO FORMALLY
INTRODUCE TO OUR CHAMBER OUR NEWEST MEMBER, LANDON DAIS OF THE
77TH ASSEMBLY DISTRICT. I, OF COURSE, WILL LET YOU KNOW OR ANNOUNCE IF
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THERE'S ANY FURTHER ACTIVITY THAT WE NEED TO DO ON THE FLOOR; HOWEVER,
MAJORITY MEMBERS SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE A NEED
FOR A CONFERENCE ONCE WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR WORK HERE ON THE FLOOR
TODAY. AND, AS ALWAYS, MR. SPEAKER, WE WILL CONFER WITH OUR
COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR NEEDS
MAY BE.
SO THAT'S A GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE ARE, SIR. IF YOU
HAVE ANY INTRODUCTIONS OR HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: AND WE WILL START
WITH YOU, MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, SIR. IT WOULD
BE MY PLEASURE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER LANDON DAIS WAS ELECTED TO
REPRESENT THE 77TH ASSEMBLY DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES THE COMMUNITIES
OF CLAREMONT, CONCOURSE, HIGHBRIDGE, MOUNT EDEN, MORRIS HEIGHTS --
AND MORRIS HEIGHTS IN THE BRONX. BORN AND RAISED IN NEW YORK,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER DAIS BEGAN HIS EDUCATIONAL JOURNEY AT FORDHAM
PREP. HE RECEIVED A BACHELOR OF ARTS DEGREE IN BUSINESS
MANAGEMENT FROM MOREHOUSE COLLEGE, A MASTER'S DEGREE IN REAL
ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, AND A LAW DEGREE
FROM HOFSTRA LAW SCHOOL. LANDON PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS A DEPUTY
DIRECTOR AT THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE, AND WORKED AT A CONSTRUCTION
COMPANY CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROJECTS -- MANY PROJECTS, SUCH AS THE NEW
YANKEE STADIUM.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER DAIS IS A DEDICATED COMMUNITY
LEADER, LEGAL EXPERT, AND AN ADVOCATE FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE. HE IS A
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MEMBER OF THE ABYSSINIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, LEADS THE HIGHBRIDGE
HEIGHTS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND HIS CONTRIBUTES HIS EX --
EXPERTISE TO THE MID-BOX -- BRONX DESPERADOES BOARD, FOCUSING ON
BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE BRONX. LANDON RESIDES IN
HIGHBRIDGE WITH HIS WIFE ROSIE AND THEIR TWO SONS, LENOX AND
LEXINGTON.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING ASSEMBLYMEMBER
LANDON DAIS TO OUR CHAMBERS.
(APPLAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF A
INTRODUCTION, MS. FORREST.
MS. FORREST: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.
PLEASE ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE AN INCREDIBLE GROUP OF ALUMNI FROM THE
TIMBUKTU SUMMER CLIMATE AND CAREERS INSTITUTE. THIS INCREDIBLE
GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LED BY PAUL HAI OF THE SUNY SCHOOL OF
ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND FORESTRY, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MEDGAR
EVERS COLLEGE IN BROOKLYN IN ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 57. THE TIMBUKTU
INSTITUTE [SIC] SEEKS TO INTRODUCE HIGH SCHOOL-AGED STUDENTS LIVING ON
THE FRONT LINES OF CLIMATE CHANGE TO CAREERS FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE.
STUDENTS LEARN ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES IN ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY,
PROTECTION, SCIENCE, ART, JOURNALISM AND MORE. LAST SUMMER, THE
PROGRAM HOSTED MORE THAN 40 STUDENTS IN THREE COHORTS THAT EACH BEGAN
THEIR TWO-WEEK EXPERIENCE IN CROWN HEIGHTS AND CULMINATED WITH
NEARLY A WEEK IN THE ANDIRONDACK [SIC] PARK. THESE TALENTED STUDENTS
ARE HERE TO TAKE PART IN ANDIRONDACK [SIC] PARK LOBBY DAY, WHERE THEY
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WILL LEARN ABOUT PARTICIPATION IN GOVERNMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES
AND FUNDING, AND CAREERS FIGHTING CLIMATE CHANGE.
THEY'RE ALSO HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE PERMANENT
AFRICAN AMERICAN EXHIBIT FUNDING. THEY ARE WEARING THESE RED
SCARVES THAT YOU WILL SEE AROUND THE CAPITOL TODAY. THEY ARE
ADVOCATING FOR CLEAN WATER, WILDERNESS, AND GREEN JOB CREATION FOR OUR
BEAUTIFUL ANDIRONDACK [SIC] PARK, A NATIONAL TREASURE THAT THEY WILL
INHERIT FROM ALL OF US.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. FORREST, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THIS
EXTRAORDINARY GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE
ASSEMBLY. WE GIVE YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR, COMMEND YOU ON
THE PATIENCE THAT YOU'VE DISPLAYED WHILE WE WAITED SO LONG TO START.
YOU WERE WELL-BEHAVED AND ENTERTAINED BY SOME OF OUR MEMBERS. WE
ARE HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE COME TODAY, HOPE THAT YOU WILL ENJOY YOUR FULL
EXPERIENCE HERE IN ALBANY, AND KNOW THAT WE WILL ALWAYS WELCOME
YOU HERE IN THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
FOR BEING WITH US.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. GIBBS FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.
MR. GIBBS: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. SORRY FOR THE
CONFUSION. IN ADDITION TO WHAT MEMBER PHARA WAS JUST INTRODUCING,
WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TROOPS AS WELL. IT'S MY HONOR TO STAND HERE
AND INTRODUCE THE BOY SCOUT TROOPS 144B - COME ON, STAND 144B -
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WE'VE GOT BOY SCOUTS 144G, WE HAVE THE PACK 3144. WE ALSO HAVE
SOME WONDERFUL, AMAZING YOUNG LADIES IN THE GIRL SCOUTS 4704, ALONG
WITH THE TIMBUKTU CLASS OF 2023. AND WE ALSO REPRESENT QUEENS,
BROOKLYN, BRONX, AND HARLEM.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S MY PLEASURE, MR. SPEAKER,
TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR GIRL SCOUTS AND BOY SCOUTS FROM ALL ADDITIONAL
BOROUGHS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. GIBBS, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE
BOY SCOUTS AND GIRL SCOUTS HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY,
EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. OUR SAME CONGRATULATIONS FOR
THE PATIENCE THAT YOU'VE SHOWN WHILE WE GATHERED TO DO BUSINESS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. WE HOPE YOU'VE HAD A GREAT
TIME AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A GREAT TIME HERE IN ALBANY. THANK
YOU.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. RAMOS FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.
MR. RAMOS: MR. SPEAKER, I RISE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
AN INTRODUCTION. TODAY, I HAVE A DISTINGUISHED GROUP OF YOUNG
STUDENTS -- PLEASE RISE. THEY ARE FROM THE BRENTWOOD AND CENTRAL ISLIP
SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND THEY BELONG TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT CLUBS. ONE, WE
HAVE THE -- THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT COUNCIL IN CENTRAL ISLIP,
ALEJANDRO HEREDIA, AND HE'S FROM THE STUDENT COUNCIL. WE HAVE
XIMENA MEDRANO, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE MULTICULTURAL CLUB.
WE HAVE ANDRES RODRIGUEZ, WHO IS FROM THE BRENTWOOD STUDENT
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ADVOCATES. FROM THE LATINO TEACHER'S ASSOCIATION, DAFNY IRIZARRY
AND MARISOL PAGAN, AND SEVERAL OTHER TEACHERS THAT WE HAVE HERE WHO
REPRESENT THESE YOUNG STUDENTS.
THESE STUDENTS IN MY DISTRICT HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN
EVERY ISSUE YOU COULD THINK OF. THEY HAVE MARCHED THE STREETS IN THE
DEFENSE OF IMMIGRANT RIGHTS. THEY HAVE DONE COMMUNITY CLEANUPS,
THEY HAVE DONE MURALS ON THE WALLS TO BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S
INSPIRING, MR. SPEAKER, THAT THIS YOUNG -- THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE IT
UPON THEMSELVES TO REACH OUTSIDE OF THEIR -- THEIR SOCIAL LIFE AND TO
ACTUALLY DO THINGS TO HELP THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THEY'VE COME UP HERE
TO LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT. THEY'RE DOING THAT AT ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
GOVERNMENT, BUT THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE IT WHEN THEY
GRADUATE NEXT YEAR.
SO, MR. SPEAKER, I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE JUST GIVE THIS
GROUP A WARM WELCOME AND PLEASE EXTEND THEM ALL THE COURTESIES OF
THE HOUSE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. RAMOS, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE
STUDENTS AND TEACHERS HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. WE
EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. OUR CONGRATULATIONS ON THE
KIND OF WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO PRESERVE AND MAKE YOUR
COMMUNITIES BETTER. WE BELIEVE IN THE PRINCIPLE THAT WE LEARN SO THAT
WE MAY SERVE. YOU OBVIOUSLY EXEMPLARY [SIC] BESTOW US WITH THE
PLEASURE OF WATCHING YOU AS YOUNG PEOPLE GROW AND MAKE THIS WORLD A
BETTER PLACE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. YOU'RE ALWAYS
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WELCOME.
(APPLAUSE)
MS. SEAWRIGHT FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.
MS. SEAWRIGHT: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. TODAY
I RISE TO RECOGNIZE A DEAR FRIEND AND SPECIAL GUEST, COACH RYAN MARTIN.
HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE ADAPTIVE SPORTS PROGRAM AT THE CITY
UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK. HIS PORTFOLIO INCLUDES A MEN'S AND WOMEN'S
WHEELCHAIR BASKETBALL TEAM, AS WELL AS AN EMERGING WHEELCHAIR TENNIS
AND TRACK TEAM, AND WE HOPE PICKLEBALL, TOO, SOME DAY. RYAN WAS
RECOGNIZED AS THE 2022 COLLEGE COACH OF THE YEAR BY THE UNITED
STATES OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC COMMITTEE.
THE CUNY ADAPTIVE SPORTS PROGRAM IS THE ONLY
INTERCOLLEGIATE SPORTS PROGRAM ON THE EAST COAST. HE'S EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE INTERNATIONAL NPO, THE RYAN MARTIN FOUNDATION. ITS
MISSION IS TO HELP YOUTH AND ADULT ATHLETES WITH DISABILITIES LIVE
INDEPENDENT, IMPASSIONED, PRODUCTIVE AND FULL LIFE THROUGH SPORTS,
TRAINING, MENTORING, AND EDUCATION. RMF FOUNDATION RUNS
YOUTH-BASED WHEELCHAIR PROGRAMS IN CONNECTICUT AND MADRID, SPAIN.
HE ALSO SERVES AS PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL WHEELCHAIR BASKETBALL
ASSOCIATION, AND HELPS OVERSEE THE USA HIGH PERFORMANCE PROGRAM,
WHICH INCLUDES THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S WHEELCHAIR BASKETBALL
PARALYMPIC TEAMS. IN THAT ROLE, RYAN MANAGES KEY RELATIONSHIPS WITH
NWBA'S STAKEHOLDERS SUCH AS NIKE AND TOYOTA. HE CURRENTLY PLAYS
FOR THE NWBE [SIC] BACK-TO-BACK REIGNING NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS,
THE NEW YORK ROLLING KNICKS. PREVIOUSLY, RYAN PLAYED PROFESSIONAL
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BASKETBALL IN MADRID, SPAIN AND PARIS, FRANCE FOR TEN SESSIONS. HE
EARNED A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN SECONDARY EDUCATION, WITH AN EMPHASIS
IN SOCIAL SCIENCE. HE'S CURRENTLY FINISHING A MASTER'S DEGREE IN
DISABILITY STUDIES AT THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK SCHOOL OF
PROFESSIONAL STUDIES.
WE WELCOME COACH RYAN MARTIN TO THE ASSEMBLY
CHAMBER. PLEASE EXTEND TO HIM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MS. SEAWRIGHT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, COACH RYAN, WE
APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE COME AND SHARED WITH US. WE EXTEND TO YOU
THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU'RE
DOING HELPING THOSE WHO ARE DISADVANTAGED AND NEED THE KIND OF
ASSISTANCE THAT YOUR PROGRAMS PROVIDE. YOU REMIND ME THAT SOME 32
YEARS AGO, WE PLAYED AS AN ASSEMBLY AGAINST A WHEELCHAIR TEAM THAT
CAME HERE TO ALBANY, WE PLAYED IN THE WELL AND YOU GUYS BEAT US SO
BADLY. I DON'T THINK WE EVER INVITED YOU GUYS BACK.
(LAUGHTER)
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. THIELE FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.
MR. THIELE: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND I'M
MORE EXCITED THIS MONDAY THAN I USUALLY AM TO GET UP AT 6 O'CLOCK IN
THE MORNING AND DRIVE FIVE HOURS TO ALBANY TO BE HERE FOR SESSION,
BECAUSE TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY FAMILY. I'M -- MY -- MY SON MICHAEL
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AND HIS WIFE JILL, AND MY -- MY -- MY GRANDSON, LENNON ARE ALL HERE
JOINING ME TODAY SO THAT LENNON FOR THE FIRST TIME CAN SEE HIS -- HIS
GRANDFATHER AT WORK BEFORE HE LEAVES THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR YOUR COURTESIES
EARLIER UP ON THE PODIUM AND ASK THAT YOU FURTHER EXTEND THE COURTESIES
OF THE HOUSE. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF YOUR DAD AND YOUR GRANDFATHER, WE WELCOME YOU ALL HERE, MICHAEL,
JILL, AND LEN [SIC] TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. YOU'RE FAMILY, SO
YOU ARE ALWAYS EXTENDED THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. I HOPE THAT YOU'VE
ENJOYED THIS TRIP HERE, I HOPE YOU GLORY IN THE WORK THAT YOUR
GRANDFATHER AND FATHER HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS. HE HAS BEEN A TRUE
PLEASURE TO WORK AND A TRUE TREASURE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK. THANK
YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
(APPLAUSE)
MR. WEPRIN FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.
MR. WEPRIN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. IT'S A GREAT
PLEASURE FOR ME TO INTRODUCE SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER BEEN TO ALBANY
BEFORE, BUT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE QUEENS COUNTY BAR
ASSOCIATION, WHO'S BEEN THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT YOU MAY RECALL
THE PRIOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE QUEENS BAR WAS THERE FOR ABOUT 30
YEARS. SO HE'S RELATIVELY NEW AND HE'S IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER,
JONATHAN RIEGEL.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MR. WEPRIN, THE QUEENS DELEGATION, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE
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MEMBERS, JONATHAN, WE WELCOME YOU HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO ALBANY,
NOT THE LAST I'M SURE. WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE POSITION THAT YOU HOLD, HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE
ON AS LONG AS YOUR PREDECESSOR IF YOU SO CHOOSE. KNOW THAT YOU ARE
ALWAYS WELCOME HERE, WE WILL ALWAYS WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU AND YOUR
ADVICE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
(APPLAUSE)
WE WILL GO TO RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3. ASSEMBLY NO.
876, THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 876, MS.
ROSENTHAL.
LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR
KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 26-MARCH 3, 2024, AS EATING
DISORDERS AWARENESS WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 877, MR.
EPSTEIN.
LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR
KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 26TH, 2024, AS STUDENTS WITH
DISABILITIES ADVOCACY DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. EPSTEIN ON THE
RESOLUTION.
MR. EPSTEIN: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN
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FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION. TODAY, THERE ARE OVER 85,000 STUDENTS IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK WHO ARE IN COLLEGE WHO ARE STUDENTS WITH
DISABILITIES, 85,000 NEW YORKERS WHO NEED OUR SUPPORT EVERY SINGLE
DAY, BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL
CAREERS. WE WANT THEM TO ADVANCE, FINISH COLLEGE, GET A JOB, MOVE ON
WITH THEIR LIVES AND CONTRIBUTE BACK TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
TODAY MARKS AN IMPORTANT DAY FOR THE STUDENTS WITH
DISABILITIES ADVOCACY DAY. WE STARTED THIS WHEN I GOT HERE IN THE
ASSEMBLY A LITTLE OVER SIX YEARS AGO, AND STUDENTS, HUNDREDS OF
STUDENTS TODAY CAME TO ALBANY TO TALK AND RAISE THEIR VOICES ABOUT THE
NEEDS FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. HOW THEY NEED MORE SUPPORT TO
GET THROUGH COLLEGE, HOW THEY NEED SUPPORT WHILE THEY'RE IN COLLEGE,
AND THEY NEED MENTORING SUPPORT POST-COLLEGE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
ADVOCACY DAY IS ABOUT.
I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE 85,000 COLLEGE STUDENTS IN NEW YORK STATE WITH
DISABILITIES. I HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THOSE STUDENTS IN
NEED. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MR. BURDICK ON THE RESOLUTION.
MR. BURDICK: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND I
WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS RESOLUTION, AND FOR
ALWAYS BEING SUCH A STRONG ADVOCATE OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. WE,
AS A STATE, AND WE, AS A NATION, CANNOT REALLY CONSIDER OURSELVES FULLY
COMMITTED TO INCLUSIVITY UNLESS WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ONE OF OUR
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CITIZENS HAVE ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY POSSIBLY CAN. AND I
WANT TO MENTION THAT THE SPONSOR OF THIS RESOLUTION HAS BEEN ONE OF THE
TRAILBLAZERS IN DOING THAT HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.
MS. SEAWRIGHT ON THE RESOLUTION.
MS. SEAWRIGHT: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I WANT
TO COMMEND THE -- THE SPONSOR FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT RESOLUTION AND
ALL OF THE DEDICATION TO -- TO ALL PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AROUND THE
STATE THAT ARE PURSUING THEIR HIGHER EDUCATION DEGREE, AND THANK MY
COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION.
I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MR. SAYEGH ON THE RESOLUTION.
MR. SAYEGH: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER,
ON THE RESOLUTION. AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR. AND AS AN
EDUCATOR FOR MANY YEARS, I'VE NOTICED HOW WE PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON
EDUCATING SPECIAL ED AND STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES FROM PRE-K TO HIGH
SCHOOL. BUT THE SAD ORDEAL IN OUR STATE AND NATION IS WHAT HAPPENS
POST-HIGH SCHOOL. AND TOO OFTEN, YOU KNOW, WE DROP THE BALL THAT
THESE INDIVIDUALS, PREDOMINANTLY YOUNG PEOPLE LOOKING TO GET THEIR
LIVES IN ORDER, HAVE A LACK OF EXPERIENCE MOVING FORWARD WHEN IT
COMES TO JOB DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER SERVICES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE
AVAILABLE. SO TODAY WHEN WE WITNESSED THE ADVOCACY AND WE SAW THE
ROLE MANY STUDENTS PLAY AT CITY AND STATE UNIVERSITY, SUNY AND
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CUNY, WE REALIZE FURTHER HOW URGENT IT IS FOR US, AS LEGISLATORS, TO BE
VERY CAREFUL AND SENSITIVE TO MAKING SURE THAT THE PATH FROM THE
NORMAL PRE-K TO HIGH SCHOOL CONTINUES LIFELONG SO THESE INDIVIDUALS
CAN ENJOY QUALITY OF LIFE.
THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MS. GIGLIO ON THE RESOLUTION.
MS. GIGLIO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND I'D LIKE
TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS VERY IMPORTANT
RESOLUTION. AND EDUCATION FOR OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ADULTS THROUGHOUT
THE STATE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND THE
STRUGGLE IS REAL NOT ONLY FOR STUDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE DISABILITIES, BUT IT'S
ESPECIALLY REAL FOR PEOPLE THAT DO. AND AS THE STATE MOVES FORWARD TO
TRY AND SUPPORT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN SELF-DIRECTION, EDUCATION SO
THEY CAN BE A BIG PART OF THE WORKFORCE LATER ON IN LIFE IS VERY
IMPORTANT.
SO AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THE
RESOLUTION FORWARD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL TO
MAKE LIFE EVERYBODY'S LIFE IN NEW YORK STATE BETTER. THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
MR. SANTABARBARA ON THE RESOLUTION.
MR. SANTABARBARA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS RESOLUTION
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FORWARD. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT RESOLUTION TO MANY FAMILIES, MANY
INDIVIDUALS IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HAVE A DISABILITY, STUDENTS WITH
DISABILITIES. MY SON HAS -- IS ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS. MY SON WAS BORN
WITH AUTISM, HE'S BEEN A STUDENT WITH -- WITH DISABILITIES HIS ENTIRE LIFE,
SO I KNOW HOW CHALLENGING IT CAN BE. BUT A LOT OF THE WORK WE DO IN
THIS CHAMBER, IT MAKES LIFE EASIER FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, AND
ESPECIALLY STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES. SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK
WE'VE DONE. THIS RESOLUTION SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO
BE A MORE INCLUSIVE, WELCOMING STATE, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR EDUCATION.
SO I WANT TO THANK -- AGAIN, THANK THE SPONSOR FOR THIS
VERY IMPORTANT RESOLUTION AND I'M VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT IT HERE TODAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, SIR.
MS. LEVENBERG.
MS. LEVENBERG: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE SPONSOR FOR ALL OF YOUR ADVOCACY AND FOR
BRINGING FORTH THIS RESOLUTION. I ALSO HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIVE WHO
WENT THROUGH COLLEGE AND MANAGED TO FIND A COLLEGE WHERE THEY
SUPPORTED HIS DISABILITY AND RECEIVED ACCOMMODATIONS. AND THAT'S --
IT'S SO HEARTENING JUST TO SEE SO MANY STUDENTS UP HERE WITH SO MANY
DIFFERENT FORMS OF WHY THEY CAME UP HERE TODAY, KNOWING THAT THEY
CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE IN -- IN OTHER ACTIVITIES BEYOND THE CLASSROOM, BUT
MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET THE SUPPORTS THAT THEY NEED IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND OF COURSE WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THEY GRADUATE WITH
THOSE VERY IMPRESSIVE DEGREES THAT THEY CAN ALSO GET SUPPORTS THAT THEY
NEED IN THE WORKFORCE.
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SO I'M PROUD TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION, AND
THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE SPONSOR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MS. DARLING ON THE RESOLUTION.
MS. DARLING: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE SPONSOR FOR HIS ADVOCACY EVERY SINGLE DAY AS I SIT WITH HIM
ON THE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES COMMITTEE. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, THE
WAY WE TREAT OUR MOST VULNERABLE IN THIS STATE IS REALLY TELLING. AND I
THINK OF ALL GROUPS, WE SHOULD MAKE ADVOCACY AND SHOULD MAKE
ACQUIRING RESOURCES EASY FOR OUR STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. AND TO
SEE ALL OF THEM UP HERE SESSION AFTER SESSION FIGHTING FOR THE RESOURCES
THAT THEY NEED, I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THEY DO HAVE PEOPLE HERE
WHO ARE CHAMPIONING FOR THEM, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE INDEPENDENCE THEY NEED BECAUSE THAT MAKES
SENSE FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, IT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR STATE, AND IT
JUST MAKES SENSE AS HUMANS.
SO I WANT TO CONTINUE TO CHAMPION THIS AND, AGAIN, I
WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MS. SIMON ON THE RESOLUTION.
MS. SIMON: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE IN
SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION. I WANT TO FIRST THANK MY COLLEAGUE FOR
PROPOSING IT AND ORGANIZING OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES ADVOCACY
DAY TODAY. IT IS NOT OFTEN THAT WE HAVE SO MANY STUDENTS IN HIGHER
EDUCATION HERE ADVOCATING FOR THEIR NEEDS. AND OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE
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BIG ISSUES WE HAVE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH
THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A TRULY FULLY ACCESSIBLE
EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND GO OUT AND TAKE ON THE WORLD AND PAY TAXES
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT.
SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE -- THE COLLEGE STUDENTS
WHO CAME TODAY TO ADVOCATE AND TO ENLIGHTEN EVERYBODY ABOUT THEIR
NEEDS, BUT ALSO ABOUT THEIR SKILLS AND ABILITIES AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO
HELP IMPROVE OUR WORLD GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MS. ZINERMAN.
MS. ZINERMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. SPEAKER. I
RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION, AND ALSO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE
ON THE DISABILITIES COMMITTEE [SIC] FOR BRINGING IT FORTH. AND WHAT A
WONDERFUL SIGHT TODAY TO SEE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE COMING TO
ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES. THIS WEEKEND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOST A
TWO -- THREE-CITY ZOOM WITH OTHER STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES HERE IN
NEW YORK AND MARYLAND AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE LEARNED WHEN WE TALKED TO YOUNG PEOPLE IS THAT WE'RE
NOT DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COLLEGE AND LEARN HOW TO ADVOCATE FOR
THEMSELVES AND CHART THEIR OWN FUTURE FORWARD, WE'RE THE BETTER FOR IT.
AND SO WE NEED TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM, BUT ALSO DO WHAT WE CAN HERE TO MAKE THE
ASSEMBLY AND THE SENATE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR THEM TO INTERACT WITH US.
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SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE RESOLUTION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MR. GIBBS ON THE RESOLUTION.
MR. GIBBS: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I RISE TO
THANK THE SPONSOR OF THIS IMPORTANT RESOLUTION. EVERY YEAR, WE COME
TOGETHER TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE REMARKABLE CONTRIBUTION OF
STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES AT NEW YORK'S HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS.
THE DEDICATION OF THESE STUDENTS AND THEIR RESILIENCE IN OVERCOMING
CHALLENGES IS NOTHING SHORT OF INSPIRING. I WANT TO ECHO THE ACTIONS OF
MY COLLEAGUES WHO YEAR AFTER YEAR INTRODUCE THIS CRITICAL RESOLUTION
AND TAKES A STAND FOR INCLUSIVITY. TODAY, AS WE GATHER FOR STUDENTS
WITH DISABILITIES ADVOCACY DAY, WE RENEW OUR COMMITMENT TO
ENSURING THAT EVERY STUDENT, REGARDLESS OF THEIR ABILITIES, HAS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE IN EDUCATION. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE NOT ONLY
RECOGNIZE THE CHALLENGES FACED BY STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES, BUT
ACTIVELY WORK TOWARDS IMPACTFUL SOLUTIONS. FIRSTLY, LET US ADVOCATE FOR
INCREASED ACCESSIBILITY TOWARDS HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS. THIS
INCLUDES NOT ONLY PHYSICAL ACCESSIBILITY, BUT ALSO ENSURING THAT
EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS, EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES
AND COMMUNICATION METHODS ARE TAILORED TO ACCOMMODATE DIVERSE
NEEDS. AND SECONDLY, LET US CHAMPION THE EXPANSION OF SUPPORT
SERVICES -- EXPANSION OF SUPPORT SERVICES FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.
FROM ACADEMIC ACCOMMODATIONS TO MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, THESE
SERVICES ARE ESSENTIAL FOR RECREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERY
STUDENT CAN FLOURISH. BY SECURING ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND RESOURCES FOR
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THESE PROGRAMS, WE CAN MAKE HIGHER EDUCATION TRULY ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR THIS
RESOLUTION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 878, MR.
MCDONALD.
LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR
KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 5-11, 2024, AS TARDIVE DYSKINESIA
AWARENESS WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
WOULD PLEASE CALL THE GOVERNMENT [SIC] OPERATIONS COMMITTEE TO THE
SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: GOVERNMENT [SIC]
OPERATIONS COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
IMMEDIATELY, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
WE WILL GO TO PAGE 4, CALENDAR NO. 305, THE CLERK
WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A01300, CALENDAR NO.
305, AUBRY, BURDICK, WEPRIN, EPSTEIN, GIBBS, MEEKS. AN ACT TO
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AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION TO INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS WITH
A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A03502, CALENDAR NO.
306, VANEL, CRUZ. AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW AND THE
CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN RELATION TO DIRECTING THE SUPERINTENDENT OF
STATE POLICE TO DEVELOP AND INSTITUTE CHILD-SENSITIVE ARREST POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES FOR INSTANCES WHERE POLICE ARE ARRESTING AN INDIVIDUAL WHO
IS A PARENT, GUARDIAN OR OTHER PERSON LEGALLY CHARGED WITH THE CARE OR
CUSTODY OF A CHILD.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04003, CALENDAR NO.
307, GLICK, BURDICK. AN ACT TO AMEND THE ENVIRONMENTAL
CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING THE LEASE OF STATE FORESTS,
REFORESTATION AREAS, WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT AREAS AND UNIQUE AREAS FOR
GAS PRODUCTION.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A04285, CALENDAR NO.
308, O'DONNELL. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PARKS, RECREATION AND HISTORIC
PRESERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING THE STATE COMMISSIONER OF
PARKS, RECREATION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION TO CONSULT WITH THE STATE
BOARD FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PRIOR TO ENTERING INTO A RESIDENT
CURATOR LEASE FOR ANY AT RISK STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THOSE ELIGIBLE FOR
LISTING ON THE STATE AND NATIONAL REGISTERS OF HISTORIC PLACES, AND TO
ADOPT A PLAN FOR IDENTIFYING AT-RISK STRUCTURES WITHIN STATE PARKS AND
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HISTORIC SITES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES FOR THE PURPOSES OF A
INTRODUCTION.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT OUR PROCEEDINGS --
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE NEED A LITTLE QUIET
IN THE CHAMBER, PLEASE.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: -- FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN
INTRODUCTION. ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE, MS. TAPIA, WE WOULD LIKE TO
INTRODUCE TO YOU AND THE ENTIRE CHAMBERS DR. RAFAEL LANTIGUA. HE IS
AN EMINENT PHYSICIAN AND EDUCATOR. HE HAS BEEN DISTINGUISHED AS THE
MOST CELEBRATED DOMINICAN DOCTOR IN NEW YORK STATE BY THE
DOMINICAN PRESIDENT LUIS ABINADER. THE TESTAMENT TO HIS
EXTRAORDINARY CAREER AND ITS IMPACT ON HIS PEOPLE, HE SERVED AS A
PROFESSOR OF MEDICINE AND ASSOCIATE DEAN FOR THE COMMUNITY
SERVICES AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY. HE'S PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN
ADVANCING MEDICAL EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE ACCESS AND RESEARCH,
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PARTICULARLY TO MINORITY POPULATIONS.
MR. SPEAKER, ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE WOULD YOU
PLEASE WELCOME THIS VERY DISTINGUISHED DOCTOR TO OUR CHAMBERS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: CERTAINLY. ON BEHALF
OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, MS. TAPIA, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS,
WE WELCOME YOU HERE, SIR, TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY. WE
EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR. OUR CONGRATULATIONS ON A
TRULY DAZZLING CAREER THAT YOU HAVE HAD AND CONTINUE TO HAVE. PLEASE
KNOW THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE FRIENDS HERE, YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME --
WELCOME HERE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
(APPLAUSE)
THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A05873, CALENDAR NO.
309, LAVINE, MCDONALD, COLTON, K. BROWN, BRAUNSTEIN, GLICK, AUBRY,
SIMON, CRUZ. AN ACT TO AMEND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES AND
THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO EXTREME RISK PROTECTION ORDERS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A06637, CALENDAR NO.
310, SEPTIMO, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, COOK, OTIS, WALKER, WEPRIN, CRUZ,
KELLES, BURDICK, SEAWRIGHT, LEVENBERG, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS. AN ACT TO
AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW AND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO
PROHIBITING MANDATORY DISCLOSURE OF A CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORD IN
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07390, CALENDAR NO.
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311, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, REYES, FORREST, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, SEAWRIGHT,
SHIMSKY. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO
CERTIFICATION OF FETAL DEATH CERTIFICATES BY A MIDWIFE OR PHYSICIAN
ASSISTANT.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU
COULD PLEASE CALL THE RULES COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE
ROOM IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: RULES COMMITTEE,
SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY.
(PAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: THE CLERK WILL
READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07872, CALENDAR NO.
312, PAULIN. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO
PROVIDING HEALTH CARE PROXY INFORMATION TO PALLIATIVE CARE PATIENTS.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: READ THE LAST
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SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A07961, CALENDAR NO.
313, L. ROSENTHAL, SOLAGES, SILLITTI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH
LAW, IN RELATION TO THE EMERGENCY USE OF EPINEPHRINE AUTO-INJECTOR
DEVICES.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: READ THE LAST
SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08467-A, CALENDAR
NO. 314, MCDONALD. AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN
RELATION TO THE DISPENSING OF DRUG ADULTERANT TESTING SUPPLIES.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: READ THE LAST
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SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 30TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08487, CALENDAR NO.
315, HEVESI. AN ACT TO AMEND THE FAMILY COURT ACT, IN RELATION TO
EXPUNGEMENT OF RECORDS IN PERSONS IN NEED OF SUPERVISION CASES IN
THE FAMILY COURT.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: ON A MOTION BY
MR. HEVESI, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS
ADVANCED. READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH
DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO: THE CLERK WILL
RECORD THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ARE THERE ANY OTHER
VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
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THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A08535, CALENDAR NO.
316, BRONSON. AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION
TO CONTRACTED COMPENSATION PAYMENTS; AND TO REPEAL SECTION 191-D OF
THE LABOR LAW.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON A MOTION BY MR.
BRONSON, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE. THE SENATE BILL IS
ADVANCED. READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS BILL [SIC] SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE
180TH DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS PASSED.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR
DESKS AN A-CALENDAR. MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ADVANCE
THAT A-CALENDAR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON MRS. PEOPLES-
STOKES' [SIC], THE A-CALENDAR IS ADVANCED.
PAGE 3, RULES REPORT NO. 14, THE CLERK WILL READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY NO. A09304, RULES REPORT
NO. 14, REDISTRICTING. AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE LAW, IN RELATION TO
ESTABLISHING CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS; AND TO REPEAL ARTICLE 7 OF SUCH LAW
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RELATING THERETO.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR. JUST A POINT OF
ORDER. I NOTE THAT THIS BILL HAS NO LEGISLATIVE SPONSOR, AND I UNDERSTAND
THAT THE STATE CONSTITUTION PROVIDES THAT THE PLAN AND THE MAP
DEVELOPED BY THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION SHALL BE
SUBMITTED TO US. AND SO, OF COURSE, SINCE WE'RE ALL CONSTITUTIONAL
SCHOLARS, THAT WOULD TAKE PRIORITY OVER OUR RULES WHICH PROVIDE THAT
ONLY BILLS INTRODUCED BY THE MEMBERS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BUDGET
BILL, CAN BE CONSIDERED BY THE HOUSE. IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING, AS
WELL, THAT THIS IS --
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ABSOLUTELY.
MR. GOODELL: AND AM I CORRECT THAT IF THIS DOES
NOT PASS, THAT ANY SUBSEQUENT LEGISLATION THAT DOES NOT EMANATE FROM
THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION WOULD REQUIRE A SPONSOR
AND WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE REMAINING RULES THAT APPLY TO YOUR
OTHER LEGISLATIVE PROPOSAL BEFORE THIS LEGISLATURE?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. GOODELL, WE WILL
TREAT IT THE SAME WAY WE DID THE LAST TIME, WHICH IS ALSO THE SAME AS
THE BUDGET BILLS. BUT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM UP,
SO NO SPONSOR IS NEEDED.
MR. GOODELL: AND THEN AM I CORRECT THAT IF WE
CONSIDER ANY OTHER LEGISLATION THAT DOES NOT COME FROM THE
INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE [SIC], THE REMAINING LEGISLATIVE
REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY?
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(PAUSE)
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: IN ANY SUBSEQUENT
BILL THAT WILL DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A SPONSOR.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ANSWERING
THOSE PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. DURSO.
MR. DURSO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. WOULD THE
SPONSOR YIELD FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. ZEBROWSKI WILL
YIELD, THOUGH NOT THE SPONSOR AS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED.
(LAUGHTER)
MR. DURSO: AH, TOUCHÉ.
MR. ZEBROWSKI: I'LL YIELD, MR. DURSO; THANK YOU,
MR. SPEAKER.
MR. DURSO: THANK YOU, MR. ZEBROWSKI. SO WE'RE
HERE AGAIN. COULD YOU JUST GIVE A QUICK, BRIEF OVERVIEW OF HOW WE'VE
GOTTEN TO THIS POINT TO WHERE WE'RE VOTING AGAIN ON THESE MAPS FOR
CONGRESSIONAL LINES?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: YEAH. THE BRIEFEST WAY FOR ME
TO EXPLAIN IT IS THAT THE COURT OF APPEALS RULED IN THE MATTER OF
HOFFMAN V. THE NEW YORK STATE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION THAT THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION SHALL
SUBMIT A SECOND SET OF MAPS TO THE LEGISLATURE.
MR. DURSO: OKAY. AND THE MAPS THAT WE'LL BE
VOTING ON NOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SECOND SET OF MAPS, CORRECT?
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MR. ZEBROWSKI: CORRECT.
MR. DURSO: OKAY. SO THESE MAPS, THESE MAPS THAT
WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY, THEY WERE DRAWN BY THE INDEPENDENT
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: YES.
MR. DURSO: OKAY. AND DID THESE MAPS PASS
THROUGH THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION IN A BIPARTISAN
MANNER?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: BY A VOTE OF 9-1 ON FEBRUARY
15TH.
MR. DURSO: OKAY, SO 9-1. AND IF YOU COULD -- YOU
COULD TELL ME WHAT THE VOTE IS, 9-1. SO ACCORDING TO THE STATE
CONSTITUTION THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES THAT THE IRC WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW
IN REGARDS TO PUTTING THESE MAPS TOGETHER TO BRING TO THE LEGISLATURE TO
VOTE ON THEM. SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND IF YOU COULD
TELL ME IF YOU KNOW IF THE IRC FOLLOWED THESE TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW TO
WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. ONE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE MAPS HAVE
TO BE CREATED TO THE EXTENT PRACTICAL, THE DISTRICTS SHALL CONTAIN AS
NEARLY AS MANY -- EQUAL NUMBER OF INHABITANTS. DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S
TRUE TO THIS POINT WITH THESE MAPS?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: YES, I -- I BELIEVE IT DOES --
MR. DURSO: OKAY.
MR. ZEBROWSKI: -- COMPLY WITH THAT
REQUIREMENT.
MR. DURSO: SO ANOTHER PROVISION IN THE
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CONSTITUTION, EACH DISTRICT SHALL CONSIST OF CONTIGUOUS TERRITORIES. DO
YOU KNOW IF THE IRC'S MAPS DO THAT ALSO?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: SO YOU'RE ASKING ME NOW
QUESTIONS THAT ARE -- WOULD BE MORE PROPERLY ADDRESSED TO THE
INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION. THEY MET, THEY SUBMITTED
THESE LINES. ALL 150 MEMBERS WILL NOW HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION
AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THESE MAPS ARE APPROPRIATE. ONE OF THOSE FACTORS
MAY BE WHETHER OR NOT THEY BELIEVE THEY APPROPRIATELY COMPLIED WITH
THE CONSTITUTION.
MR. DURSO: OKAY. SO, BUT IN YOUR OPINION, YOU'RE
-- YOU'RE NOT THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL, AS WE FIGURED OUT, YOU KNOW,
UNDERSTANDING THAT, BUT YOU ARE LEADING THE DEBATE ON IT. DO YOU FEEL
THAT THOSE (INAUDIBLE) CONTIGUOUS TERRITORIES?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: IN A FEW MINUTES, JUST LIKE YOU --
WELL MAYBE, WE'LL SEE HOW MANY MINUTES -- BUT JUST LIKE YOU, I'LL HAVE
TO CAST A VOTE AND I WILL DO SO AT THAT POINT. BUT AS YOU SAY, THIS BILL IS
BEFORE THE HOUSE, SUBMITTED BY THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING
COMMISSION AS IS REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
MR. DURSO: BUT REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION THAT
IT -- IT DOES HAVE TO CONSIST OF A CONTIGUOUS TERRITORY, CORRECT?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: THAT IS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS
IN THE CONSTITUTION, YES.
MR. DURSO: OKAY, THANK YOU. EACH DISTRICT ALSO
SHALL BE AS COMPACT IN FORM AS PRACTICAL, CORRECT? THAT WAS ONE OF THE
OTHER -- IN THE CONSTITUTION IT'S SAYING THAT WHEN THE MAPS ARE DRAWN,
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THAT THAT HAS TO BE PART OF IT?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, NOW THAT I'M
-- I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION AS TO WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS, YES,
THAT IS ALSO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CONSTITUTION. OF COURSE, IT
SAYS "AS PRACTICAL."
MR. DURSO: OKAY. DO WE THINK THAT THEY ARE AS
PRACTICAL AS POSSIBLE?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: ONCE AGAIN, THE INDEPENDENT
REDISTRICTING COMMISSION DREW THESE LINES AND PRESUMABLY, THOSE
INDIVIDUALS, OR THE NINE OF THEM, THINK SO. BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE
SUBMITTED TO THE HOUSE. I CAN'T ANSWER THESE -- I -- I'M NOT GONNA BE
ABLE TO YOUR QUESTION OR ANY OTHER MEMBER'S QUESTION AS TO WHAT THEY
BELIEVE.
MR. DURSO: OKAY. AND THEN JUST MY LAST QUESTION
IS, IN THE CONSTITUTION IT SAYS DISTRICTS SHALL NOT BE DRAWN TO DISCOURAGE
COMPETITION, AND WE FEEL THAT THE IRC HAS DONE THAT, CORRECT? THEY
HAVE DRAWN MAPS TO NOT DISCOURAGE ANY TYPE OF COMPETITION AT THIS
POINT, THAT THESE MAPS ARE GOOD AND THEY DON'T DISCOURAGE ANY
COMPETITION, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT THE IRC IS SAYING TO US.
MR. ZEBROWSKI: YOU'RE SAYING "WE," SO YOU ARE
GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION --
MR. DURSO: OKAY.
MR. ZEBROWSKI: -- ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS; I AM
GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS.
MR. DURSO: BUT THE IRC HAS SENT US THESE MAPS,
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RIGHT, AND WE'RE -- THEY'RE SENDING THEM TO US SAYING THAT WITH THE MAPS
THAT THEY'VE DRAWN, DISTRICTS SHALL NOT BE DRAWN TO DISCOURAGE
COMPETITION, THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DRAWN THAT WAY, CORRECT?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY DID NOT
SEND THE MAPS WITH A LETTER OR WITH LENGTHY EXPLANATIONS. SO IT REALLY
WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ATTEMPT TO PUT MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF
THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION.
MR. DURSO: ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE. BUT MY
QUESTION TO YOU IS THAT SINCE IT'S IN THE -- THE CONSTITUTION THAT THE MAPS
HAVE TO BE DRAWN THAT WAY, WHETHER IT CONSISTS OF CONTIGUOUS
TERRITORIES, BE AS COMPACT IN FORM AS PRACTICAL, AND SHALL NOT BE DRAWN
TO DISCOURAGE COMPETITION, IF THE IRC WAS TO SEND US MAPS THAT REALLY
NEGATED ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE CONSTITUTION, THEN THE MAPS
COULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T BE CORRECT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE
BEEN DONE CORRECTLY. SO WE FEEL AT THIS -- WELL, AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA
MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION, RIGHT, ON WHAT THEY FEEL IF THEY WANNA VOTE
ON THESE MAPS OR NOT, BUT THAT WAS THE IRC'S JOB, CORRECT?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: THEORETICALLY, MEMBERS CAN
EVALUATE THAT AND THEORETICALLY, AN IRC MAP COULD BE CHALLENGED
CONSTITUTIONALLY, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE COULD BE CHALLENGED
CONSTITUTIONALLY. SO ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO
PUT MYSELF IN THEIR SHOES OR TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY THOUGHT OR DID NOT
THINK.
MR. DURSO: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. ZEBROWSKI, I
APPRECIATE IT.
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MR. ZEBROWSKI: THANK YOU.
MR. DURSO: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR. WOULD MR.
ZEBROWSKI YIELD?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. ZEBROWSKI, WILL
YOU YIELD?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: I'LL YIELD.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE SPONSOR WHO IS
NOT A SPONSOR YIELDS.
(LAUGHTER)
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. AND
JUST TO FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT WITH MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTIONS, ARE YOU
AWARE OF ANY CONSTITUTIONAL INFIRMITY WITH THE PROPOSED MAPS THAT WE
ARE ABOUT TO VOTE ON?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: I -- OBVIOUSLY, A FINAL
CONSTITUTIONAL DETERMINATION WOULD BE MADE BY A COURT OF COMPETENT
JURISDICTION. I WILL BE, LIKE MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, CASTING A VOTE IN THE
FUTURE BASED ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS.
MR. GOODELL: I -- I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY QUESTION
WAS, HAS ANYONE -- ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY CONSTITUTIONAL INFIRMITIES ON
THESE PROPOSED MAPS?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN PUBLIC
FEEDBACK THAT'S IN -- THAT'S OUT THERE. I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN CRITICISMS
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OF THE MAP, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN SUPPORT OF THE MAP.
MR. GOODELL: HAS ANY OF THE CRITICISM OF THE
MAPS, THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, RAISED ANY CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES?
MR. ZEBROWSKI: I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M
COMFORTABLE ATTEMPTING TO RECALL THE CRITICISMS I'VE SEEN OUT IN THE
PUBLIC SPACE, WHETHER IT'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR IN PRINT MEDIA RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ACCURATELY PUT INTO
THE RECORD OF THE HOUSE.
MR. GOODELL: I -- AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ASKING YOU
TO SUMMARIZE ANY CRITICISM. I REALLY PERHAPS WOULD HAVE BETTER BEEN
SAID, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY CRITICISM CLAIMING A CONSTITUTIONAL
INFIRMITY?
(PAUSE)
MR. ZEBROWSKI: I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE
QUESTION. SO YOU'RE ASKING ME WHETHER OR NOT I CAN RECALL FOLKS THAT
HAVE SPOKEN PUBLICLY IN CRITICISM OF THE PLAN AND THAT CRITICISM,
WHETHER IT'S BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION?
MR. GOODELL: YES.
MR. ZEBROWSKI: SO I THINK MY ANSWER WOULD
REMAIN THE SAME, IS THAT I DON'T -- I THINK IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
ME TO COMMENT ON THE RECORD OF WHAT MY MEMORY IS OF PUBLIC
COMMENTS RELATED TO THIS PLAN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE
AN ACCURATE RECALL. I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE
IT.
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MR. ZEBROWSKI: THANK YOU.
MR. GOODELL: ON THE BILL, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: ON THE BILL, MR.
GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: SO, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE WERE
PRESENTED WITH MAPS FROM THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE
[SIC]. YOU MAY RECALL WE HAD COMPETING MAPS. THOSE WERE REJECTED
BY THE LEGISLATORS, AND THE LEGISLATURE, WITHOUT WAITING FOR A SECOND SET
OF MAPS, WENT AHEAD IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROCEDURE AND
ENACTED THEIR OWN. I MIGHT ADD THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH ON A PARTY LINE
VOTE. THE COURT CONSIDERED THOSE MAPS AND RULED THEY WERE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, THAT IT WAS IMPERMISSIBLE GERRYMANDERING AND THREW
'EM OUT. AND THE COURT DIRECTED THAT THE INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING
COMMITTEE [SIC] PRODUCED A SECOND SET OF MAPS, AS SET FORTH IN THE
STATE CONSTITUTION. WE NOW HAVE THE SECOND SET OF MAPS. THE SECOND
SET OF MAPS ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE MAPS THAT WERE USED IN THE
INTERIM THAT WERE DRAWN BY AN INDEPENDENT MASTER AND APPROVED BY
THE COURT. SO WE HAD THE FIRST SET OF MAPS THAT WERE ADOPTED BY THE
LEGISLATURE IN A PARTY LINE VOTE THROWN OUT AS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL
GERRYMANDERING. WE HAVE A SECOND INTERIM SET OF MAPS CREATED BY A
SPECIAL MASTER, INDEPENDENT, APPROVED BY THE COURT, WE USED THAT FOR
TWO YEARS. WE NOW HAVE THE THIRD SET OF MAPS, THE THIRD SET OF MAPS
ARE VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THE SECOND SET OF MAPS. AND SO FAR, NO ONE
HAS QUESTIONED THE LEGITIMACY OF THE MAPS WE'RE BEING ASKED TO VOTE
ON. NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE MAPS FAIL TO MEET THE CONSTITUTIONAL
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REQUIREMENT.
NOW, WHEN THESE MAPS CAME OUT THERE WERE HOWLS OF
ANGUISH THAT WE HEARD ALL THE WAY FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. CLAIMING
THAT THE NEW MAPS WERE NOT PARTISAN ENOUGH. NOW, IF YOU'RE NOT SURE,
YOU CAN LOOK UP THOSE COMMENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE WIDELY REPORTED
BY A CONGRESSMAN FROM OUR OWN STATE WHO SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS
TO COME UP AND FORCE THIS SET OF MAPS. AND WHAT WERE THEIR CONCERNS?
WELL, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THEIR PROBLEM WAS THAT THIS MAP DREW THE
DISTRICTS IN A MANNER NOT TO DISCOURAGE COMPETITION. SO THE
CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT DISTRICTS SHALL NOT BE DRAWN TO DISCOURAGE
COMPETITION OR FOR THE PURPOSE OF FAVORING OR DISFAVORING INCUMBENTS
OR OTHER PARTICULAR CANDIDATES OR POLITICAL PARTIES. THAT'S THE
CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT. THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT IS THE
MAPS BE INDEPENDENT, THAT THEY BE NONPARTISAN, THAT THEY NOT FAVOR ANY
CANDIDATE OR PARTY.
SO HERE WE HAVE INDEPENDENT MAPS APPROVED ON A
BIPARTISAN BASIS THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO MAPS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY
APPROVED BY AN INDEPENDENT COURT MASTER, APPROVED BY THE COURT, AND
I HOPE THAT WHEN WE VOTE ON THIS, WE STAND UP AND SAY WHEN WE HAVE
INDEPENDENT MAPS APPROVED OVERWHELMINGLY ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS THAT
ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE MAPS APPROVED BY A COURT AND CREATED EARLIER BY
AN INDEPENDENT MASTER, IT DESERVES OUR SUPPORT. AND I HOPE THAT WE
DON'T GO DOWN THE ROAD OF SAYING THE ONLY MAPS THE MAJORITY IS GONNA
APPROVE ARE THOSE THAT BRING INTO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THE MAPS
WERE DRAWN TO FAVOR A PARTICULAR PARTY OR A PARTICULAR POLITICIAN, RATHER
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THAN BEING INDEPENDENT, NONPARTISAN, AND FAIR.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO
MY COLLEAGUE WHO, WHILE NOT SPONSORING THIS LEGISLATION, WAS KIND
ENOUGH TO TRY TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: READ THE LAST SECTION.
THE CLERK: THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: A PARTY VOTE HAS
BEEN REQUESTED.
MR. GOODELL.
MR. GOODELL: THANK YOU, SIR. THE REPUBLICAN
CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THE MAPS BEING PRESENTED BY THE
INDEPENDENT REDISTRICTING COMMISSION. THOSE WHO WISH TO VOTE
AGAINST IT CAN CERTAINLY DO SO ON THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, SIR.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: THANK YOU, MR.
SPEAKER. THE MAJORITY CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY OPPOSING THIS FORM
THAT WAS SENT TO US BY IRC AND, HENCE, WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING IN THE
NEGATIVE; HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE SOME COLLEAGUES WHO CHOOSE TO BE
DIFFERENT, THEY SHOULD FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE CLERK WILL RECORD
THE VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
MR. RA TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.
MR. RA: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, BRIEFLY TO EXPLAIN
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MY VOTE. I THINK WE ALL KNOW, RIGHT, AND IT WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING
THIS DEBATE HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT DATING BACK TEN YEARS AGO TO A
VOTER-APPROVED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO CREATE AN INDEPENDENT
PROCESS. COMING FORWARD TO 2022, LAWSUITS, THE COURT-APPOINTED
SPECIAL MASTERS TO DRAW LINES. MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE, THE
PREVIOUS DECADE'S LINES WERE ALSO DRAWN BY A COURT THAT WE HAD PRIOR TO
2022. AND THEN LAST, OR TWO YEARS AGO, REALLY, THERE WAS A CASE FILED TO
SAY THAT THOSE LINES THAT CAME FROM THE COURT WERE NOT MEANT TO BE FOR
MORE THAN ONE ELECTION CYCLE. AND THERE WERE UNPRECEDENTED THINGS
DONE, INCLUDING REJECTING THE GOVERNOR'S NOMINEE FOR THE COURT OF
APPEALS, I THINK ALL WITH THE INTENDED OUTCOME OF GETTING TO THE POINT
OF HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO HAVE THEIR HANDS BACK
IN THE REDISTRICTING CONVERSATION.
NOW, I READ AMICUS BRIEFS INCLUDING FROM ATTORNEY
GENERAL JAMES, GOVERNOR HOCHUL, AND THE RECORD OF THIS CASE THAT WAS
DECIDED THAT LED US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND THEY ALL TALKED ABOUT
HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS THAT WE LET THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS THAT THE
VOTERS APPROVED PLAY OUT AND THE INDEPENDENT COMMISSION DO THEIR JOB
AS CONTEMPLATED BY THE CONSTITUTION. SEEMS TO BE THAT MAYBE THAT WAS
NOT WHAT THAT CASE WAS ALL ABOUT.
I VOTE YES. THANK YOU.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MR. RA IN THE
AFFIRMATIVE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES? ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
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THE BILL IS LOST.
(PAUSE)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU
HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: WE DO HAVE SOME
HOUSEKEEPING AND RESOLUTIONS. WE WILL START WITH THE HOUSEKEEPING.
ON A MOTION BY MR. WEPRIN, PAGE 33, CALENDAR NO.
184, BILL NO. A06488, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.
ON BEHALF OF MS. WOERNER, ASSEMBLY BILL A01080-A
RECALLED FROM THE SENATE. THE CLERK WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE BILL.
THE CLERK: AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MOTION TO RECONSIDER
THE VOTE BY WHICH THE BILL PASSED THE HOUSE. THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE
VOTE.
(THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)
THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.
(THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)
THE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE AND THE AMENDMENTS ARE
RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.
WE HAVE A RESOLUTION, 870 BY MS. BUTTENSCHON.
MS. BUTTENSCHON ON THE RESOLUTION -- THE CLERK WILL
READ.
THE CLERK: ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 870, MS.
BUTTENSCHON.
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LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION COMMEMORATING THE 90TH
ANNIVERSARY OF INDIUM CORPORATION ON MARCH 13, 2024.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MS. BUTTENSCHON.
MS. BUTTENSCHON: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
INDIUM CORPORATION WAS STARTED IN A SMALL GARAGE IN UTICA, NEW YORK
IN 1934. IT HAS GROWN OVER THE LAST 90 YEARS AS A MULTI-NATIONAL GLOBAL
-- GLOBAL LEADER IN THE SCIENCE AND ELECTRONICS SOLUTION-PRODUCING
INNOVATIVE PRODUCT-MAKING, AND MANY OTHER HIGHLY TECHNICAL ITEMS.
THIS ORGANIZATION NOT ONLY IS A LEADER WITHIN THE ELECTRONIC FIELD, BUT IS
ONE THAT IS A LEADER WITH STUDENTS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, AS IT HAS
NUMEROUS APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS
TO OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO HONOR THEM FOR 90 YEARS AND HOPE
THAT AS THEY THE CELEBRATE THE QUALITY WITHIN THE MOHAWK VALLEY THAT
THIS CONTINUES FOR 90 MORE.
THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.
WE DO HAVE NUMEROUS OTHER RESOLUTIONS WHICH WE
WILL TAKE UP WITH ONE VOTE.
ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING
AYE; OPPOSED, NO. THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.
(WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 871-875
WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
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MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU
PLEASE CALL ON MR. JACOBSON FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN ANNOUNCEMENT?
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF A
ANNOUNCEMENT, SIR.
MR. JACOBSON: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. THE
MUST -- THE MUCH ANTICIPATED CONFERENCE FOR THE MAJORITY WILL BE HELD,
BUT NOT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS SESSION. IT'S GONNA START AT 8:30 P.M.
EASTERN TIME. SO PLEASE, 8:30 P.M. CONFERENCE, HEARING ROOM C.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: MAJORITY CONFERENCE,
8:30 P.M., HEARING ROOM C.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.
MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: I NOW MOVE THAT THE
ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED AND THAT WE RECONVENE AT 2 P.M., TUESDAY,
FEBRUARY THE 27TH, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.
ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY: THE ASSEMBLY STANDS
ADJOURNED.
(WHEREUPON, AT 5:04 P.M., THE ASSEMBLY STOOD
ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 27TH AT 2:00 P.M., TUESDAY BEING A
SESSION DAY.)
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