THURSDAY, MAY 16, 2024                                                                        10:36 A.M.



                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

                    OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 15TH.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

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                    DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF WEDNESDAY, MAY

                    THE 15TH AND THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

                    ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  COLLEAGUES AND GUESTS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBER, I WOULD LIKE

                    TO SHARE A QUOTE WITH YOU FOR TODAY.  THIS ONE IS COMES FROM MARY

                    TRAVERS.  SHE WAS AN AMERICAN SINGER-SONGWRITER WHO FOUND FAME IN

                    THE 1960S WITH THE FOLK TRIO OF PETER, PAUL AND MARY.  HER WORDS FOR US

                    TODAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO TEACH THE WORLD TO STOP HATING THE DIFFERENT,

                    THE OTHER, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START WITH THE CHILDREN.  AGAIN,

                    THESE WORDS FROM MARY TRAVERS.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, COLLEAGUES HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A MAIN

                    CALENDAR AND A DEBATE LIST.  WE WILL GOING TO BEGIN CALLING FOR THE

                    COMMITTEE -- WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN BY CALLING FOR THE COMMITTEE WITH

                    PEOPLE -- ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO MEET OFF THE FLOOR TODAY, AND

                    AFTER INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR HOUSEKEEPING, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP

                    CALENDAR RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.  AND THEN WE'RE GONNA WORK OFF THE

                    DEBATE LIST BY TAKING UP THE FOLLOWING BILLS:  CALENDAR NO. 385 BY MS.

                    BARRETT, CALENDAR NO. 410 BY MS. PAULIN, AND CALENDAR NO. 427 BY

                    MR. DILAN.  WE THEN WORK OFF THE MAIN CALENDAR BY TAKING UP NEW

                    BILLS BEGINNING WITH RULES REPORT NO. 44.  THAT'S ON PAGE 5.  THERE

                    MAY BE A NEED TO ANNOUNCE FURTHER FLOOR ACTIVITY, IF SO WE WILL PROCEED

                    AND ANNOUNCE THAT AS -- AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

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                                 THAT'S THE GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TODAY,

                    MR. SPEAKER.  IF YOU HAVE INTRODUCTIONS AND/OR HOUSEKEEPING, NOW

                    WOULD BE THE PERFECT TIME.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MR. PRETLOW, PAGE 8, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 60, BILL NO. 9550, THE AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 FOR THE PURPOSES OF A COMMITTEE, MRS. PEOPLES-

                    STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  IF YOU COULD PLEASE CALL THE COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH

                    DISABILITIES TO MEET IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  COMMITTEE ON

                    PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM

                    IMMEDIATELY.

                                 FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION, MS. BUTTENSCHON.

                                 MS. BUTTENSCHON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    RISE TO INTRODUCE THE UTICA NOTRE DAME GIRLS BASKETBALL TEAM.  ON

                    MARCH 16TH, THIS TEAM NAMED -- WAS NAMED THE CLASS B STATE

                    CHAMPIONS AFTER DEFEATING ALBANY ACADEMY IN A 55-51 COMEBACK AT

                    THE HUDSON VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE.  THIS TEAM WAS ABLE TO RALLY

                    TOGETHER AND PUSHED THROUGH MULTIPLE DOUBLE-DIGIT DEFICITS TO WIN THIS

                    GAME.  THE TEAM IS LED BY HEAD COACH JOHN SNYDER, ASSISTANT

                    COACHES TOM PETERSON, GILLIAN KEELER, AND GENNARO DURSO.  THEY

                    FINISHED THEIR SEASON WITH A 24-3 RECORD.  THE PLAYERS ARE COREY

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                    KERNEY, ERIN TRINKAUS, LAUREN KULPA, MAGGIE TRINKAUS, EMMA

                    JOHNSON, VITA WATERS, TESSA ARCURI, AMANIE JADWICK, ELLA TRINKAUS,

                    JULIANNA OTIS, JENNA HERRON, ABBY KOTARY, LILY JOHNSON, OLIVIA

                    RUSSITANO AND VEGA ROSEMYER.  THEY HAVE SHOWN THEIR ABILITY TO

                    OVERCOME ADVERSITY, AND I AM SURE THIS SKILL WILL FOLLOW THEM THROUGH

                    THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

                                 CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NOTRE DAME GIRLS BASKETBALL

                    STATE CHAMPIONS.  GO JUGGLERS.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. BUTTENSCHON, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME

                    COACHES AND THESE TREMENDOUS ATHLETES.  LADIES, WE ARE SO PLEASED TO

                    HAVE YOU, EXTEND YOU TO THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  WE HOPE THAT THIS

                    VICTORY THAT YOU HAVE ENJOYED THIS YEAR WILL CONTINUE THROUGH YOUR LIFE

                    AND YOU WILL LEARN THOSE LESSONS AND USE THOSE LESSONS OF WHAT IT TAKES

                    TO BE SUCCESSFUL.  WE'RE QUITE SURE YOU WILL.  CONGRATULATIONS.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. MCDONALD FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. MCDONALD:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  IT'S AN

                    HONOR TODAY TO NOT HAVE NOT ONE, BUT TWO GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS TO

                    RECOGNIZE, BOTH FROM COLUMBIA HIGH SCHOOL WHICH IS ACROSS THE RIVER

                    IN EAST GREENBUSH.  FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE COLUMBIA GIRLS

                    BOWLING TEAM, WHO WON THE NEW YORK STATE PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL

                    ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION CHAMPIONSHIP THIS PAST FEBRUARY IN SYRACUSE,

                    COMPLETING AN OUTSTANDING SEASON.  THEIR REGULAR SEASON THEY WERE

                    UNDEFEATED 16-0, THEY WON THE SUBURBAN COUNCIL CHAMPIONSHIP,

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                    WHICH IS THE BIGGEST -- BIGGEST COUNCIL IN THE CAPITOL REGION, AND ALSO

                    THE SECTION 2 CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT AS WELL.  AT THE STATE

                    CHAMPIONSHIPS, COLUMBIA HAD A TOTAL PIN FALL OF 5,982 PINS OVER THE

                    SIX GAMES, 301 PINS HIGHER THAN SECOND PLACE EAST ISLIP.

                                 I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE INDIVIDUALLY THOSE WHO

                    COMPETED:  KARA BARCHER, EMILY BEARDSLEY, MARISSA BOGHOLTZ,

                    JENNIFER DOTY, CIERRA CAMPBELL [SIC] -- EXCUSE ME, CIERRA GABRIEL,

                    ALEXIS GAUDETTE, GRACE STEELE, KENDRA SZCZEPKOWSKI, AND THEY'RE LEAD

                    BY HEAD COACH LISA JOHNAS AND ASISTANT COACH BILL NEUMANN.

                    CONGRATULATIONS, LADY KEGLERS.

                                 ALSO FROM COLUMBIA HIGH SCHOOL, WE HAVE A HIGH

                    SCHOOL JUNIOR BY THE NAME OF ELLE HUTTON, WHO WON THE STATE

                    CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE GIRLS WRESTLING INVITATIONAL IN JANUARY AT SRC

                    ARENA IN ONONDAGA COMMUNITY COLLEGE.  MISS HUTTON WON ALL FOUR OF

                    HER MATCHES IN HER WEIGHT CLASS TO BECOME COLUMBIA HIGH SCHOOL'S

                    FIRST FEMALE WRESTLING CHAMPION.

                                 SO TO ALL THE CHAMPIONS, CONGRATULATIONS AND GREAT

                    WORK, AND MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU COULD EXTEND THESE CHAMPIONS THE

                    CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. MCDONALD, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF

                    THE FLOOR.  AGAIN, OUR CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS CHAMPIONSHIP YEAR IN

                    WRESTLING AND BOWLING.  CONTINUE THOSE GREAT TRAITS THAT TOOK YOU TO

                    THIS VICTORY.  KNOW THAT WE WILL ALWAYS WELCOME YOU HERE AND LOOK

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                    FORWARD TO WHAT YOU WILL DO IN THE FUTURE.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH

                    FOR BEING HERE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. BROOK-KRASNY.

                                 MR. BROOK-KRASNY:  GOOD MORNING, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  I RISE TO INTRODUCE MY GOOD FRIEND, LUCY MUJICA DIAZ.  I'M

                    DOING IT ON MY BEHALF AND ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER GLICK AND

                    ASSEMBLYMEMBER LEE.  LUCY IS A KEY MEMBER OF THE SOUTHERN

                    BROOKLYN COMMUNITY AS CHAIR OF BROOKLYN COMMUNITY BOARD 13.

                    SHE HAS BEEN A HELPING HAND AND A LIGHT TO OTHERS FOR DECADES, AND I'M

                    PROUD TO BE HERE WITH HER TODAY.

                                 IN 1990, LUCY MOVED TO CONEY ISLAND TO START A

                    FAMILY AND RAISE HER TWO WONDERFUL DAUGHTERS, AMANDA AND LIZA.

                    FROM THE VERY START, SHE WAS DRAWN TO HELPING HER COMMUNITY.  SHE

                    SERVED AS A BOOKKEEPER FOR HER HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATION AND

                    VOLUNTEERED AT THE LA PUERTA ABIERTA DAY CARE CENTER WHEN HER

                    DAUGHTERS WERE YOUNG.  LUCY HAS ALSO WORKED WITH OUR LADY OF

                    SOLACE BASEBALL LEAGUE TO GET KIDS INVOLVED IN LOCAL ATHLETICS.  IN

                    2012, AS I'M SURE WE ALL REMEMBER, HURRICANE SANDY DEVASTATED NEW

                    YORK CITY AND LEFT MANY WITHOUT FOOD, SHELTER AND BASIC DAY-TO-DAY

                    NEEDS.  DURING THAT VERY DIFFICULT TIME, LUCY STEPPED UP AND BECAME

                    INVOLVED WITH BROOKLYN COMMUNITY SERVICES TO HELP FAMILIES WHO HAD

                    BEEN AFFECTED BY THE STORM.

                                 I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL OF US IN SOUTHERN BROOKLYN,

                    BUT ALSO ON BEHALF ASSEMBLYMEMBER GLICK AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER LEE,

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                    I CAN SAY THAT ALL OF US IN BROOKLYN IN SAYING WE CANNOT THANK LUCY

                    ENOUGH FOR HER SELFLESS EFFORTS AND DEDICATION OVER THE YEARS TO SEEING

                    OUR COMMUNITY BECOME A BETTER PLACE FOR EVERYONE.  ON BEHALF OF ALL

                    OF US, MR. SPEAKER, I'M GOING TO SAY WE LOVE LUCY.

                                 SO, MR. SPEAKER, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME LUCY.  I'D LIKE

                    YOU TO WELCOME LUCY TO THE ASSEMBLY CHAMBER AND ASK THAT YOU GIVE

                    HER THE CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. BROOK-KRASNY, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, LUCY, WE

                    WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  OUR THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IN

                    YOUR COMMUNITY.  I'VE SERVED ON A COMMUNITY BOARD, I KNOW THAT IT IS

                    A TASK UNTO ITSELF, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU'VE

                    ACCOMPLISHED.  PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE, AND

                    WE TREASURE YOU AS A GIFT TO BROOKLYN.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. BENDETT.

                                 MR. BENDETT:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'M

                    PROUD TO RISE TODAY TO INTRODUCE RAGAN RETELL, NEW YORK STATE

                    WRESTLING CHAMPION.  NEW YORK STATE HAS A TREMENDOUS HISTORY IN

                    HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE WRESTLING, AND RAGAN NOW JOINS A LIST OF MANY,

                    MANY WONDERFUL ATHLETES.  SHE'S ALSO A TWO-TIME FARGO PLACE FINISHER

                    IN A NATIONAL TOURNAMENT IN NORTH DAKOTA.  TWO-TIME WORLD TIME --

                    WORLD TEAM TRIALS PLACE FINISHER.  SHE WAS THIRD AT THE STATES IN 2023,

                    SHE'S A FOUR-TIME STATE CHAMPION.  SHE'S A MEMBER OF THE CENTURY

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                    CLUB, SHE HAS OVER 100 WINS IN HIGH SCHOOL.  AND AGAIN, SHE WAS NEW

                    YORK STATE CHAMPION REPRESENTING TAMARAC HIGH SCHOOL.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, WRESTLING TEACHES YOU TWO OF THE MOST

                    IMPORTANT CHARACTER TRAITS THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL SHOULD HAVE.  THE FIRST

                    ONE IS HUMILITY.  WHEN YOU USE -- WHEN YOU LOSE A WRESTLING MATCH IN

                    FRONT OF ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, THEY BRING YOU TO THE CENTER OF THE

                    MAT AND THEY RAISE YOUR OPPONENT'S HAND, TELLING EVERYBODY IN YOUR

                    FAMILY AND YOUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE A LOSER AND IT'S HUMILIATING.

                    THERE'S NO OTHER TEAMMATES TO RELY ON LIKE IN BASKETBALL OR BASEBALL,

                    IT'S JUST YOU AND THAT OTHER OPPONENT, AND IT'S HUMILIATING.  BUT THE

                    SECOND THING IT TEACHES YOU IS COMPASSION, BECAUSE AFTER YOU'VE

                    BECOME A WINNER AND YOU HUMILIATE SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU SHAKE THEIR

                    HAND, YOU TAP THEM ON THE BACK AND YOU SAY, WITH HARD WORK YOU'LL BE

                    HERE, TOO.

                                 SO, I'M PROUD TO BE A WRESTLER AND COME FROM A

                    WRESTLING FAMILY.  I'M PROUD TO BE FROM A WRESTLING SCHOOL, I'M PROUD

                    TO BE FROM A SECTION OF NEW YORK STATE THAT HAS VERY PROUD WRESTLING,

                    INCLUDING OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST JEFF BLATNICK, WHO WAS MY FRIEND,

                    AND WHO ALSO HELPED COACH RAGAN AND HER BROTHER.

                                 AND SO, MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD

                    EXTEND ALL THE CORDIALITIES TO THE HOUSE TO RAGAN RETELL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. BENDETT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, RAGAN, WELCOME

                    HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  WE CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR SUCCESSES, AND

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                    HOPE THAT THOSE SUCCESSES CONTINUE.  BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK FOR A

                    MINUTE, AND ALL OF US, AT HOW MARVELOUS IT IS TO HAVE YOUNG LADIES

                    PARTICIPATE IN ATHLETICS AND BE HONORED FOR THEIR EFFORTS AS A PART OF

                    THEIR LIFESTYLE.  I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD.  THANK YOU SO

                    VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. MANKTELOW.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO HAVE AN INTRODUCTION TODAY.

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 SORRY, MR. SPEAKER, ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 AGAIN, MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO

                    AN INTRODUCTION ON THE FLOOR, ALSO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A WRESTLER.  HIS

                    NAME IS BRAIDON WOODWARD.  HE'S A SENIOR AT THE PALMYRA-MACEDON

                    CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT.  HE WAS THE NEW YORK STATE WRESTLING

                    CHAMPION AT THE WEIGHT OF 170 POUNDS.  THE MATCH WAS ACTUALLY HELD

                    RIGHT HERE AT THE MVP ARENA DOWN THE STREET, AND -- AND WHAT A GREAT

                    HONOR TO HAVE HIM HERE BACK IN ALBANY AS A CHAMPION, ALONG WITH HIS

                    FAMILY AND SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE SCHOOL.  HE FINISHED HIS

                    HIGH SCHOOL CAREER WITH A RECORD OF 54-1 AND WILL NOW BE ATTENDING THE

                    UNIVERSITY OF BUFFALO THIS FALL.

                                 SO, MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU COULD GIVE HIM AND THE FAMILY

                    ALL THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE, I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

                    THANK YOU.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. MANKTELOW, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    HERE, SIR, TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, WE EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF

                    THE FLOOR.  WE CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR EXCELLENT CAREER IN HIGH

                    SCHOOL, LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN AS YOU GO ON TO BUFFALO.

                    PLEASE CONTINUE TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A PLACE YOU CAN ALWAYS COME AND

                    A PLACE YOU WILL ALWAYS BE WELCOME.  GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR

                    FAMILY.  OBVIOUSLY, FAMILY, YOU DID A GREAT JOB WITH THIS YOUNG MAN.

                    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)


                                 WE'LL GO TO RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.  ASSEMBLY NO.

                    2196, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2196, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. LEMONDES.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 18, 2024, AS ARMED FORCES DAY IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. LEMONDES ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. LEMONDES:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  AS WE

                    KNOW, ARMED FORCES DAY WAS ESTABLISHED BY PRESIDENT TRUMAN ON

                    FEBRUARY 27,1950 IN RECOGNITION OF ALL CURRENTLY-SERVING MILITARY

                    MEMBERS.  IN ADDRESSING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS, THERE ARE SEVERAL

                    ASPECTS THAT SHOULD BE MENTIONED.  FIRST, HISTORICALLY MOST AMERICANS

                    ALIVE TODAY HAVE NEVER LIVED IN AN AMERICA WHERE THEIR COUNTRY OR WAY

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                    OF LIFE WERE EXISTENTIALLY THREATENED, THE LAST TIME BEING WORLD WAR II.

                    THIS BINDING FABRIC THAT HAS UNIFIED US MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST 250

                    YEARS IS OFTENTIMES FORGOTTEN.  HOWEVER, IT HAS NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN BY

                    THOSE COUNTLESS SOULS THAT HAVE SERVED, BLED, DIED, OR THEIR FAMILIES; THE

                    IMPORTANCE BEING THAT THERE'S A COST TO BE FREE, AND THAT COST IS PAID

                    EVERY SINGLE DAY.

                                 WHAT MANY DON'T REALIZE IS THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE OF

                    OUR MILITARY WITH RESPECT TO OUR SECURITY IS EVER-PRESENT 24/7.

                    RECOGNIZING THAT THIS PILLAR OF EXTERNAL SECURITY IS THE FIRST OF THREE

                    IMPERATIVES NECESSARY TO HAVE AND MAINTAIN A FREE SOCIETY IS THE FIRST

                    STEP IN UNDERSTANDING HOW VITAL IT IS, THE SECOND BEING INTERNAL SECURITY

                    OR OUR POLICE FORCES AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE

                    THIRD BEING A FUNCTIONING ECONOMY, WHICH CAN'T BE ACHIEVED AND

                    MAINTAINED WITHOUT THE OTHER TWO.  WHETHER OPERATING IN SPACE ABOVE

                    OR BELOW THE SEA, IN THE AIR OR ON THE GROUND IN AS MANY AS 30-PLUS

                    COUNTRIES AT ANY GIVEN TIME, YOUR, OUR MILITARY MEMBERS ARE OUT THERE

                    OFTENTIMES IN MISERABLE CONDITIONS, WILLING TO SACRIFICE EVERYTHING SO

                    THAT OUR REPUBLIC MAY LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.  THIS LEVEL OF

                    COMMITMENT BY SO FEW FOR SO MANY IS OFTEN TAKEN FOR GRANTED AS SO

                    MANY ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF OUR SOCIETY, BUT DON'T EVEN KNOW,

                    UNDERSTAND OR PARTICIPATE IN ITS OBLIGATIONS.

                                 LAST, PLEASE RECOGNIZE OUR MILITARY MEMBERS HAVE

                    MORE RESPONSIBILITY AT A YOUNGER AGE THAN THOSE OF ANY OTHER SEGMENT

                    OF OUR SOCIETY.  IN THEIR HONOR, ON THIS DAY, PLEASE JOIN ME IN

                    RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR SERVICE ON OUR BEHALF.  THANK

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2197, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MS. SOLAGES.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 19, 2024, AS HUMAN MILK DAY IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OBSERVANCE OF WORLD

                    HUMAN MILK DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2198, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. CUNNINGHAM.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 19, 2024, AS PINKSTER DAY IN THE STATE

                    OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2199, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. JONES.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 5-11, 2024, AS CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS

                    AND EMPLOYEES WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2200, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. SIMONE.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 12-18, 2024, AS FAMILY PHYSICIAN

                    WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2201, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. BRABENEC.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 19-25, 2024, AS EMERGENCY MEDICAL

                    SERVICES WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2202, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MS. DARLING.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 2024, AS FOSTER CARE MONTH IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

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                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2203, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. ZEBROWSKI.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM AUGUST 17, 2024, AS MODEL AVIATION DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2204, RULES

                    AT THE REQUEST OF MR. EACHUS.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 10, 2024, AS MENTAL HEALTH DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. EACHUS ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. EACHUS:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THANK YOU

                    FOR ALLOWING ME TO BRING THIS RESOLUTION TO THE FLOOR.  IT'S UNUSUAL

                    BECAUSE MAY IS MENTAL HEALTH MONTH, BUT MENTAL HEALTH DAY IS ON

                    OCTOBER 10TH SO I DON'T KNOW WHO FIGURED THIS ONE OUT.  BUT I THINK WE

                    HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE FOLKS WITH MENTAL DISABILITIES SUFFER WITH

                    THOSE EACH AND EVERY DAY.  SO WHETHER WE DESIGNATE A MONTH OR A DAY,

                    LET US PLEASE REMEMBER ALL OF THOSE THAT HAVE THESE MENTAL DISABILITIES.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 ON DEBATE, PAGE 32, CALENDAR NO. 382 -- 385, THE

                    CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08869, CALENDAR NO.

                    385, BARRETT, L. ROSENTHAL, CUNNINGHAM, SANTABARBARA, SHIMSKY,

                    THIELE, ARDILA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO REQUIRING THE NEW YORK STATE ENERGY AND RESEARCH

                    DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE ELECTRIC VEHICLE

                    FAST-CHARGING STATION IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. BARRETT, AN

                    EXPLANATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MS. BARRETT:  CERTAINLY, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS BILL IS

                    INTENDED TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE AND ONGOING APPROACH TO EV

                    FAST-CHARGING STATION IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU.  WOULD THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. BARRETT?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  CERTAINLY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. BARRETT YIELDS,

                    SIR.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MS. BARRETT.  LOOKING

                    AT THE SECOND PAGE, SECTION 5, IT CALLS ON THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH A

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                    FAST CHARGE NY WORKING GROUP, ALTHOUGH EVEN THOUGH THE AUTHORITY

                    ESTABLISHES IT ALL THE MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED.  I SEE THAT THERE ARE FOUR

                    MEMBER APPOINTED BY THE SPEAKER OF THE ASSEMBLY, FOUR MEMBERS

                    APPOINTED BY THE TEMPORARY PRESIDENT.  CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT IS THAT

                    THERE ARE NO MINORITY APPOINTMENTS, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE FOUR FROM

                    EACH HOUSE?  AFTER ALL, THE MINORITY REPRESENTS ONE-THIRD OF THE

                    RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 MS. BARRETT:  IT -- IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, AND

                    I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 OKAY, SORRY, I GOT MY BILLS MIXED UP.  YES, WELL, YOU

                    KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE THAT PREVENTS THE MINORITY LEADER FROM

                    SPEAKING WITH OUR SPEAKER, FROM THE SPEAKER FOR -- TO CONFER WITH THE

                    MINORITY LEADER TO ANYBODY TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  WITH THAT IN MIND, YOU WOULDN'T

                    MIND IF YOU CHANGED THIS TO HAVE ALL FOUR APPOINTED BY THE MINORITY

                    LEADER AND HE'LL CONSULT WITH THE SPEAKER; IS THAT OKAY?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BILL SAYS, BUT IF

                    YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THAT BILL YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MS. BARRETT.

                                 I NOTICED THAT THE MEMBERSHIP, WHILE BEING APPOINTED

                    ONLY BY THE MAJORITY, ALSO MUST REFLECT SPECIFIC GROUPS.  SO, AT LEAST

                    TWO MEMBERS HAVE TO REPRESENT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS.  WHAT'S

                    MEANT BY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT -- AT

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                    ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, AND OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN -- IN

                    THE ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT.  THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A DIVERSITY OF POINTS

                    OF VIEW AND -- AND -- AND PERSPECTIVES IN GETTING TO THIS

                    COMPREHENSIVE, YOU KNOW, MUCH-NEEDED ONE OVERLOOK ON HOW WE DO

                    FAST CHARGING.  AS YOU KNOW, AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE MULTIPLE AGENCIES

                    AND OTHER GROUPS INVOLVED IN THIS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE

                    BEEN -- BEEN WORKING TOWARDS AND WANT TO GET DONE AND LOOKING TO

                    HAVE ALL THE VOICES, BUT JUST FOR ONE COMP -- COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH

                    TO IT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS

                    THAT WE WANT A DIVERSITY OF OPINIONS, AND I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A

                    GREAT OBJECTIVE.  BUT I NOTICED THAT ALL OF THE MEMBERSHIP, TWO ARE

                    ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE FROM TWO -- TWO ARE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL

                    JUSTICE GROUP, TWO MEMBERS ARE STATEWIDE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS.  I'M

                    NOT SURE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.  TWO MEMBERS FROM CHARGING STATION

                    DEVELOPERS, WHO OBVIOUSLY MAKE MONEY INSTALLING THESE -- THAT'S WHY

                    THEY'RE CALLED DEVELOPERS, I GUESS -- AND THE REMAINING TWO REPRESENT

                    PUBLIC UTILITIES, CORRECT?  WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN

                    ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUP AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES WITH THE

                    CLCPA HAS BEEN TO BE SURE THAT DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE

                    REPRESENTED, AND THAT WE ADDRESS SPECIAL NEEDS THAT ARE -- THAT -- YOU

                    KNOW, THAT ARE EXPERIENCED BY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE

                    STATE, RURAL AS WELL AS URBAN.  IT'S THE COMMUN -- IT'S THE CLIMATE

                    LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY PROTECTION ACT, AND SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT

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                    PART.  THAT'S THE JUSTICE PART, AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS ARE

                    LOOKING, YOU KNOW, AT -- AT OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL PRIORITIES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE.  IS THERE ANY REASON WHY

                    THERE'S NO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE INDEPENDENT SERVICE OPERATORS, THE

                    ISO?  BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GREATEST CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT

                    THESE FAST CHARGING SYSTEMS IS THEY REQUIRE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF

                    ELECTRICITY ON DEMAND, AND THERE'S THREE ACTUALLY -- THREE DIFFERENT

                    LEVELS OF CHARGING, THE THIRD, THE FAST CHARGERS --

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THIS IS JUST (INAUDIBLE/CROSSTALK).

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- REQUIRE -- SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE

                    NEW TRANSFORMERS AND IT WOULD PUT A LOT OF STRESS ON THE GRID.  IS THERE

                    ANY REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

                    ORGANIZATION THAT'S CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ACTUALLY RUNNING

                    THE GRID AND MAKING SURE THE ELECTRICITY IS AVAILABLE?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  YES, THAT -- I MEAN, THEY WILL

                    DEFINITELY BE PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE

                    IDEA IS TO HAVE A COORDINATED EFFORT ACROSS THE STATE FOR THESE FAST

                    CHARGERS.  AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT'S -- THIS IS THE THIRD TIER.  WE

                    -- YOU KNOW, WE -- WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A CRITICAL PIECE

                    IN -- IN HAVING MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS TO BE ABLE TO --

                    PEOPLE BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO STRUGGLE WITH RANGE ANXIETY, KNOW THAT

                    THEY CAN GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GET TO.  SO THAT'S THE IDEA HERE, IS TO

                    MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE -- THOSE POINTS OF VIEW ARE PART OF THE

                    CONVERSATION.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, AS YOU KNOW, THE FAST

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    CHARGING STATIONS ARE CURRENTLY QUITE EXPENSIVE --

                                 MS. BARRETT:  I'M SORRY, I LOST WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SAID AS YOU KNOW, THE FAST

                    CHARGING STATIONS ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE.  THE ESTIMATES THAT ARE THAT IT

                    RUNS UPWARDS OF $10,000 FOR THE EQUIPMENT PLUS ANOTHER UPWARDS OF

                    $15,000 FOR THE DELIVERY, INCLUDING THE TRANSFORMERS AND THE WIRING

                    AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.  SO AT $25,000 PER CHARGER, IS THERE ANY

                    REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE REPRESENTING THE TAXPAYERS OR UTILITY

                    CUSTOMERS WHO WILL LIKELY BE CHARGED THAT?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  ALL -- ALL OF THOSE GROUPS THAT

                    YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE RAISING WILL BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

                    THIS IS THE WORKING GROUP THAT WILL BE MEETING AND WILL BE LOOKING AT

                    ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.  SO THIS IS THE WORKING GROUP.  THEY

                    WILL BE MEETING WITH NYISO, THEY WILL BE MEETING WITH THE CONSUMER

                    GROUPS.  WE WILL BE TAKING ALL THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION IN THEIR -- AS WE

                    -- THEY LOOK AT THIS AND CREATE THIS PLAN.  THE PLAN IS AN ANNUAL PLAN,

                    WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE TO LOOK AT IT.  THAT'S

                    THE IDEA, IS TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND CONSISTENCY AND ONE

                    COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE.  AND OF COURSE, AS -- AS YOU

                    KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S HUGE SUBSIDIES BY THE STATE AND FEDERAL

                    GOVERNMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY EVS.  THERE'S SUBSIDIES FOR --

                    BY THE GOVERNMENT TO INSTALL THESE CHARGING STATIONS.  BUT AM I CORRECT,

                    EVS DON'T PAY ANY HIGHWAY TAXES, CORRECT?

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND THAT'S -- THAT WAS MY POINT.

                    SO THIS DOESN'T DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT EVS ARE GETTING A FREE RIDE AT

                    TAXPAYER EXPENSE, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAN THIS BILL.

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE.  OKAY.  THANK YOU VERY

                    MUCH, AGAIN I -- I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I -- I COMMEND THE SPONSOR IN

                    TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH A COMPREHENSIVE ELECTRIC VEHICLE FAST

                    CHARGING ANALYSIS.  I AGREE WITH THE SPONSOR THAT'S SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY

                    WE NEED IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH EVS.  I AM CONCERNED THAT THE

                    WORKING GROUP CONSISTS ALMOST ENTIRELY OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VESTED

                    STAKE IN SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY.  SO YOU HAVE TWO REPRESENTATIVES

                    FROM SOCIAL JUSTICE GROUPS, NOT TAXPAYERS.  I MEAN, THEY MAY BE

                    TAXPAYERS BUT THEY DON'T REPRESENT TAXPAYERS.  WE HAVE TWO

                    REPRESENTATIVES FROM ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S THE

                    DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS AND ENVIRONMENTAL

                    GROUPS UNLESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS AREN'T JUSTIFIED, BUT ASSUMING

                    THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCE.  THEN WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE REPRESENTING

                    DEVELOPERS.  THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT SELL THIS EQUIPMENT AT TAXPAYER

                    EXPENSE AND MAKE A PROFIT ON IT.  AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF

                    REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE UTILITY COMPANIES WHO LOVE TO SELL US

                    ELECTRICITY, RIGHT?  BUT WHO DON'T WE HAVE?  WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE

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                    REPRESENTING THE TAXPAYERS.  WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM NYSERDA,

                    THE NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AGENCY.  WE

                    DON'T HAVE ANYONE FROM AAA THAT REPRESENTS THE OTHER 95 PERCENT OF

                    TRAVELERS WHO DON'T USE EVS.  SO I HOPE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS

                    PROCESS WE LOOK FOR REAL BALANCE, INCLUDING A SENSITIVITY TO THE FACT THAT

                    THESE EVS ARE CURRENTLY ONLY AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO ARE HIGHER INCOME.

                    THE COST OF THE CHARGING STATIONS ARE HIGH, THE TAXPAYERS ARE ON THE

                    HOOK, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE LOWER INCOME, AND THE EVS PAY NOTHING

                    INTO THE HIGHWAY FUND TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS.  OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM

                    DOESN'T MATCH THE PUBLIC POLICY; HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN THE

                    FUTURE.

                                 AGAIN, THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE.  I THINK THAT

                    MOVING FORWARD ON THE STUDY IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND I HOPE WE

                    CAN BROADEN THE GROUP AS WE MOVE FORWARD.  THANK YOU, MS. BARRETT,

                    AND THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  MR. PALMESANO.

                                 MR. PALMESANO:  YEAH, MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. PALMESANO:  I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

                    SPONSOR ABOUT THIS TOPIC ON APPOINTMENTS, SO I JUST KIND OF -- I DON'T

                    WANT TO BELABOR WITH MORE QUESTIONS, MY COLLEAGUE MR. GOODELL

                    ADDRESSED THAT.  I DID JUST WANT TO ADDRESS, THOUGH, THAT I THINK ONE OF

                    MY CONCERNS WITH THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS THAT THERE WERE NO

                    MINORITY APPOINTMENTS.  I'VE MENTIONED THAT TO OTHER MEMBERS ON THEIR

                    LEGISLATION WHEN THERE ARE NO MINORITY APPOINTMENTS.  AND I THINK THE

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                    IMPORTANCE OF THAT, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T

                    HAVE ANY INPUT.  WE ARE DEALING WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF

                    LEGISLATION THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE MARKETPLACE IN -- IN A BIG WAY.  FOR

                    EXAMPLE, THE CLCPA, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE FLOOR TIME AND

                    TIME AGAIN, THERE WERE TWO MINORITY APPOINTMENTS.  IF THOSE -- IF THE --

                    THE MINORITY DIDN'T HAVE APPOINTMENTS TO THAT CLIMATE ACTION COUNCIL,

                    THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO ONE ON THAT COMMITTEE WITH ANY EXPERIENCE

                    OR KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERTISE ON GENERATION, ON UTILITY WORK, ON NATURAL

                    GAS INFRASTRUCTURE, ON THINGS THAT WERE BEING TOTALLY OVERHAULED AND

                    RESTRUCTURED.  SO THERE IS IMPORTANCE TO ALLOW THE MINORITY

                    APPOINTMENT ON THESE -- ON THESE TASK FORCE OR WHATEVER THEY MAY BE.

                    YOU KNOW, WE REPRESENT SIX MILLION DOLLAR -- SIX MILLION PEOPLE, THERE

                    SHOULD BE A VOICE ON THAT.  I -- I KNOW THERE WAS SOME LEGISLATION THAT

                    CAME THROUGH EARLIER LAST WEEK THAT WOULD OVERHAUL REGARDING

                    EXTENDED PRODUCER LIABILITY, RESPONSIBILITY.  NO MINORITY APPOINTMENTS

                    ON THAT, AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SPONSORS ON OTHER PIECES OF

                    LEGISLATION.  I JUST THINK IT'S -- IT DOESN'T HURT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE

                    FOUR MAJORITY APPOINTMENTS FOR THE SPEAKER AND THE MAJORITY LEADER

                    IN THE SENATE, COULDN'T IT BE THREE AND ONE?  SO I DO THINK WHAT THE

                    SPONSOR'S TRYING DO WITH THE OVERALL GENESIS OF THIS BILL WITH TRYING TO

                    DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE NEED MORE OF THAT, MORE

                    FEASIBILITY STUDIES, MORE COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS, MORE THINGS LIKE THAT.

                    BUT I DO THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION BECAUSE

                    THERE'S NO MINORITY APPOINTMENTS, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER

                    REPRESENTATION ON THAT COUNCIL FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM OUR SIDE OF

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                    THE AISLE.  SO FOR THAT REASON I'M GOING TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS BILL.  BUT

                    I WOULD URGE MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, WHEN YOU

                    BRING FORTH PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT PUTS COMMITTEES TOGETHER OR

                    COUNCILS TOGETHER AND YOU'RE OFFERING APPOINTMENTS TO THE SPEAKER,

                    APPOINTMENTS TO THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE SENATE, YOU SHOULD AT LEAST

                    GRANT THE MINORITY A VOICE IN THAT IN EACH HOUSE.  BECAUSE WE HAVE

                    PEOPLE THAT WE COULD THINK CAN BRING EXPERTISE TO THESE DECISIONS THAT

                    ARE BEING MADE.  AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR RESTRUCTURING AND

                    OVERHAULS OF POLICY IN NEW YORK STATE.  AND AGAIN, I WILL GO BACK TO

                    THE CLCPA AGAIN, WHICH FORTUNATELY, WE DID HAVE TWO PEOPLE, TWO

                    VOICES THAT CAME FROM THE MINORITY THAT WERE VOICES OF REASON, THAT

                    WE'RE SAYING WE CAN'T DO THIS, WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS, ALTHOUGH A LOT OF IT

                    HAPPENED ANYWAY.  THEY NEEDED TO BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, THEY

                    NEEDED TO BE A PART OF THAT RECORD.  AND IT SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT

                    RECORD WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR OVERHAULS TO POLICIES THAT ARE

                    MOVING FORWARD.

                                 SO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THIS, WHEN WE LOOK AT

                    THINGS LIKE EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY, WHEN WE LOOK AT

                    MODERNIZING THE GRID, WE NEED TO HAVE MINORITY APPOINTMENTS ON

                    THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE A VOICE AND WE COULD BRING EXPERTISE AND HAVE

                    SUGGESTIONS ON THAT AS WELL.  UNFORTUNATELY, THIS BILL DOESN'T HAVE THAT,

                    BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE SPONSOR IS GOING FROM IT WITH THE -- WITH

                    THE OVERALL PLAN.  BUT JUST FOR THOSE REASONS I'M GOING TO BE VOTING IN

                    THE NEGATIVE AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME.

                    BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE SPONSOR ON THIS

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                    AND OTHER ISSUES.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  MR. RA.

                                 MR. RA:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. RA:  JUST QUICKLY, AND NOT -- NOT TO BELABOR THIS

                    POINT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I FIND THE WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER WE

                    HAVE MINORITY APPOINTMENTS OR NOT, AND REALLY THE RESPONSE TO THAT

                    CONCERN TO BE SOMEWHAT INSULTING.  OKAY, FINE, WE'LL INTRODUCE A BILL.

                    ARE YOU GONNA MOVE IT THROUGH THE COMMITTEE?  ARE WE GONNA BRING IT

                    OUT TO THE FLOOR?  WE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.  IT'S NOT ABOUT

                    US.  WE THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF POLITICS, AND IT'S ABOUT US

                    AND THE 150 PEOPLE IN HERE.  BUT IT'S NOT.  IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE WE

                    REPRESENT, THE 130,000-PLUS PEOPLE WE REPRESENT IN OUR DISTRICTS.  AND

                    AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, OVER SIX MILLION NEW YORKERS ARE REPRESENTED BY

                    THOSE OF US ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE.  AND HAVING APPOINTMENTS,

                    WHETHER IT'S THIS BILL OR ANY OTHER COMMISSION, COMMITTEE, STUDY,

                    WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE DOING, GIVES IT MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RURAL

                    RESIDENTS OF THIS STATE, FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTS OF THIS STATE, TO HAVE A

                    VOICE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

                                 SO I -- I THINK WHAT THIS BILL IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS

                    -- IS A POSITIVE THING.  I THINK THE STATE IS OBVIOUSLY LAGGING BEHIND AS

                    WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS.  WE LOOK AT -- I DRIVE UP HERE EVERY WEEK, WE

                    HAVE THESE REST STOPS THAT ARE TAKING FOREVER TO GET PUT TOGETHER

                    BECAUSE, AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT THEM YESTERDAY, BUT OUR -- OUR

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    WONDERFUL FORMER GOVERNOR PUT OUT THIS PROCESS AND IT'S TAKING YEARS

                    AND YEARS.  THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT EV CHARGING AT

                    -- AT THOSE REST STOPS, IT'S AN AFTERTHOUGHT.  SO WE NEED --WE NEED TO

                    ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AS PEOPLE ARE USING THESE THINGS MORE AND MORE.

                    BUT AGAIN, OVER SIX MILLION NEW YORKERS ARE REPRESENTED ON THIS SIDE

                    OF THE AISLE.  IT IS NOT A LOT TO ASK TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN APPOINTMENT

                    SO THAT THAT BROAD PERSPECTIVE -- IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT REPUBLICAN/

                    DEMOCRAT.  IT'S ABOUT WE ALL REPRESENT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THIS STATE, AND

                    HAVING THOSE VOICES IN THE ROOM AS THINGS ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT

                    RESULTS IN A BETTER OUTCOME, AND IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU.  I'M SUPPORTING THIS BILL

                    BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, AS MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE

                    AISLE, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLANNING PROCESS, ALTHOUGH

                    SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL NOT SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO

                    HAVE A MORE DIVERSITY OF OPINION.  BUT OVERALL, I'M SUPPORTING IT

                    BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, AS MY COLLEAGUE JUST MENTIONED,

                    AND HOPEFULLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH LEGISLATION WE'LL BE SENSITIVE

                    TO THE ONE-THIRD OF NEW YORKERS THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVES.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 34, CALENDAR NO. 410, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08555, CALENDAR NO.

                    410, PAULIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE BUSINESS CORPORATION LAW AND THE

                    LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING CERTAIN

                    COMPANIES AND CORPORATIONS TO REPORT CERTAIN DATA REGARDING THE

                    GENDER, RACE AND ETHNICITY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MS. PAULIN.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES, OF COURSE.  THANK YOU.  THE BILL

                    REQUIRES CERTAIN CORPORATIONS AND COMPANIES TO REPORT EMPLOYEE DATA

                    REGARDING GENDER, RACE AND ETHNICITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. PAULIN, WILL YOU

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  HAPPY TO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. PAULIN YIELDS, SIR

                    -- MA'AM.

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                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  SO, THIS BILL

                    HAS GONE THROUGH A FEW, OR AT LEAST ONE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENT

                    FOLLOWING THE FIRST VETO BY THE GOVERNOR BACK IN 2022.  LET'S JUST FOR

                    THE BENEFIT OF -- OF OUR COLLEAGUES, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT HOW THE --

                    WHAT THE BILL DOES OR SEEKS TO DO AND THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE

                    IN THE BILL SINCE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT IN 2022?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, THE ORIGINAL BILL REQUIRED THE SAME

                    REPORTING OF DATA, BUT IT SAID SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO THE FEDERAL FORM

                    THAT IS ALREADY REQUIRED.  SO THE GOVERNOR IN HER VETO MESSAGE --

                    (COUGHING), SORRY.  THE GOVERNOR IN HER VETO MESSAGE SAID THAT THERE

                    WAS A CONCERN THAT THERE WOULD BE DUPLICATION, AND IT WOULD BE HARD

                    FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO -- TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN

                    SUBSTANTIALLY AND THE FORM.  SO WE MADE THE BILL IDENTICAL -- OR WE

                    CHANGED THE BILL TO REQUIRE THE FORM -- ANY -- THE SAME EXACT

                    INFORMATION FROM THE FORM TO GO TO THE -- TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENT.  SO

                    WE BELIEVED WE WERE ADDRESSING THE VETO MESSAGE ENTIRELY.  THE -- LAST

                    YEAR'S VETO MESSAGE WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, WHICH WASN'T REFLECTED IN

                    THE ORIGINAL VETO MESSAGE.  BUT THROUGH A CRAZY SITUATION AT THE

                    GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WHERE THEY CHANGED COUNSEL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BILL

                    AND DIDN'T HAVE COUNSEL ASSIGNED TO THE BILL AT THE END.  I BELIEVE THEY

                    MADE AN ERROR, WHICH IS WHY I'M PUTTING THE BILL FORWARD AGAIN.

                                 MS. WALSH:  YEAH.  AND SO, I -- I WOULD

                    COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE WHICH BASICALLY

                    SAID THE FEDERAL FORM THAT BUSINESSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILLING OUT AND

                    HAD BEEN REQUIRED TO DO SO FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THAT SAME FORM, BY

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                    THAT -- THAT IDENTICAL FORM NOW COULD BE DONE FOR THE STATE.  HOW THAT

                    DATA WILL BE TREATED IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ACCORDING TO THIS BILL.  SO

                    IN THE -- UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW, DATA IS REPORTED IN AN AGGREGATED

                    FORMAT WHEREAS YOUR BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT TO BREAK THE

                    INFORMATION DOWN AND REPORT IT THAT WAY.  AND I BELIEVE THAT FROM A

                    PREVIOUS DEBATE YOU HAD INDICATED THAT THE UNDERLYING REASON FOR THE

                    BILL IS TO ALLOW CONSUMERS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN

                    DIFFERENT COMPANIES TO REALLY GET IN AND EXAMINE COMPANY -- BY

                    COMPANY TO SEE IF THEIR -- THE WAY THAT THEY LOOK AT, LIKE, DIVERSITY,

                    EQUITY, INCLUSION, ISSUES LIKE THAT ARE REALLY BORNE OUT BY THE DATA THAT'S

                    COLLECTED.  BUT THEN THE GOVERNOR, TO YOUR POINT, IN 2023 SAID, THIS BILL

                    IS SIMILAR TO LEGISLATION I VETOED LAST YEAR.  IT WOULD REQUIRE EMPLOYERS

                    TO SHARE IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYEES IN A

                    DISAGGREGATED FORMAT.  BY DOING SO, THIS BILL WOULD BURDEN DOS, THE

                    DEPARTMENT OF STATE, TO DUPLICATE WORK ALREADY BEING DONE

                    SUCCESSFULLY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHILE CREATING A RISK TO

                    PROTECTION OF EMPLOYEES' PERSONAL PRIVACY.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  THAT WAS THE SENTENCE THAT WAS ADDED

                    FROM THE VETO MESSAGE TWO YEARS AGO, SO WE WERE UNAWARE OF THAT

                    CONCERN THE FIRST TIME.  AND I WOULD ARGUE BACK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE

                    100 EMPLOYEES, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE THE THRESHOLD STARTS BECAUSE YOU

                    -- IF IT'S LESS THAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT THAT FORM AND,

                    THEREFORE, YOU WOULDN'T BE SENDING IT TO THE STATE, THERE SHOULD BE

                    SOME DIFFERENCES IN -- THERE SHOULD BE SOME DIVERSITY IN YOUR -- IN YOUR

                    EMPLOYEE POOL.  AND SO THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED TO ME IS THAT WHAT

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE WOMAN?  WELL, THEN WE'RE -- THAT'S THE

                    PRIVACY CONCERN.  I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO

                    GET AT.  WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF SOME OF THE COMPANIES WHEN

                    THEY'RE AGGREGATED ARE REALLY HIDING BEHIND THAT WHEN IT'S -- THEY'RE

                    GONNA BE INDIVIDUALLY DIVULGED.  THEY MAY BE A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED

                    AND, THEREFORE, MAY HIRE 20 WOMEN OF THEIR 100-EMPLOYEE POOL INSTEAD

                    OF, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID IT'S 50/50, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HIRE

                    MORE.  SO -- SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE, ONE, A WAY TO ENCOURAGE

                    DIVERSITY, AND TWO, IT WOULD BE A WAY FOR SOMEONE WHO'S AN INVESTOR TO

                    SAY, WAIT A SECOND, I CARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER A FIRM IS -- IS -- IS

                    COMPLYING WITH SOME OF THESE DIVERSITY THINGS THAT I CARE ABOUT, AND IT

                    WOULD ALLOW THEM TO MAKE A JUDGMENT BASED ON THAT IF IT WAS BETWEEN

                    INVESTING IN ONE FIRM OR ANOTHER.

                                 MS. WALSH:  SO, YOU KIND OF MADE A COUNTER-

                    ARGUMENT TO THE SECOND VETO MESSAGE FROM LAST YEAR.  HAS THE BILL BEEN

                    FURTHER AMENDED SINCE THAT VETO MESSAGE TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE

                    BILL?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I WAS -- I'M HOPING THAT I CAN

                    PERSUADE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THIS TIME TO KEEP ONE COUNSEL THAT

                    WOULD FOLLOW THE BILL FROM BEGINNING TO END AND -- AND THEN BE ABLE TO

                    HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONVINCE THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT THIS IS THE

                    RIGHT THING TO DO.

                                 MS. WALSH:  I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER.  SO, ONE OF

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    THE THINGS THAT HAD -- HAS BEEN RAISED AS A CONCERN BOTH BEFORE AND

                    CONTINUING EVEN AFTER THE FIRST -- THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE SAYING

                    THAT YOU CAN USE THE SAME FORM, ARGUING THAT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL

                    BURDEN BEING PLACED ON BUSINESS.  NOW, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE -- THE

                    BURDEN IS REALLY UPON THE STATE, DEPARTMENT OF STATE, TO -- TO PRESENT

                    THIS INFORMATION IN A DISAGGREGATED FORMAT.  DO YOU SEE OR WHAT WOULD

                    YOUR RESPONSE BE TO THOSE WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON

                    BUSINESS ITSELF IN RESPONDING TO THIS REQUIREMENT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I -- I THINK ONLY THE PRIVACY ISSUE IS

                    THE ISSUE THAT -- THAT A BUSINESS WOULD -- SHOULD OR COULD BE CONCERNED

                    ABOUT, BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING SUBMIT THE SAME FORM.  SO IT'S TAKING THE

                    FORM, COPYING IT, PUTTING IT IN TWO DIFFERENT ENVELOPES.  SO THAT'S THE

                    ONLY EXTRA WORK ON THE PART OF A BUSINESS.  FOR DOS, YES, THEY WILL

                    HAVE TO TAKE THE INDIVIDUAL FORMS AND POST THEM, TAKE THE INFORMATION

                    OFF THE INDIVIDUAL FORMS.  IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE WORK IF WE

                    REQUIRED THEM TO AGGREGATE IT BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADD

                    SOMETHING UP.  HERE WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING, TAKE THE INDIVIDUAL FORMS

                    AND POST IT.  SO YES, IT WOULD BE WORK ON THE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT TO

                    POST THE INFORMATION, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE HARD TO DESEGREGATE IT BECAUSE

                    IT'S ALREADY DESEGREGATED WHEN IT COMES TO THEM.

                                 MS. WALSH:  MM-HMM.  SO, ONE OF THE -- SO TWO

                    GROUPS THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO REMAIN OPPOSED TO THIS BILL ARE THE

                    BUSINESS COUNCIL AND ALSO NFIB, AND THEIR OPPOSITION MEMOS ARE

                    PRETTY SIMILAR, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

                    THEY'RE SAYING THAT UNDER FEDERAL LAW THE EEOC IS PROHIBITED FROM

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    MAKING PUBLIC AN EMPLOYER'S EEO-1, WHICH IS THEIR FORM, DATA.  THIS IS

                    IN RECOGNITION OF BOTH LONGSTANDING EEO LAW AND FREEDOM OF

                    INFORMATION ACT LAW THAT RECOGNIZES THAT TRADE SECRETS AND COMMERCIAL

                    OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION OBTAINED FROM A PERSON THAT IS PRIVILEGED OR

                    CONFIDENTIAL.  SO, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT, THAT YOUR BILL ENDS UP BEING

                    IN SOME WAYS AN END AROUND THE FEDERAL PROTECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN

                    LONGSTANDING?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, I HAVE THE FORM IN FRONT ME, AND

                    THIS FORM DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY CONFIDENTIAL TRADEMARK INFORMATION.

                    WHAT THE FORM REQUIRES IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE EMPLOYEES, WHETHER

                    THEY ARE HISPANIC OR LATINO, MALE OR FEMALE, BLACK OR AFRICAN-

                    AMERICANS, NATIVE, HAWAIIAN OR OTHER PACIFIC ISLANDERS, ASIAN, ET

                    CETERA.  YOU KNOW, AND IT -- IT -- ALTHOUGH I GUESS WHITE AND AMERICAN

                    INDIAN OR ALASKAN NATIVE.  IT DOESN'T EVEN BREAK IT DOWN AS FAR AS

                    WHERE THE CENSUS GOES, FOR EXAMPLE.  BUT IT DOES -- THAT'S ALL IT DOES.

                    AND THEN IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PROFESSIONALS DO YOU HAVE IN

                    THE CATEGORY, HOW MANY SALES WORKERS, HOW MANY CRAFT WORKERS,

                    OPERATORS, LABORERS AND SERVICE WORKERS.  I DON'T SEE THIS AS BEING

                    TRADEMARK-PROTECTED OR WARRANTING TRADEMARK PROTECTION.  SO IT'S REALLY

                    ONLY ABOUT FIGURING OUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A DIVERSE, YOU

                    KNOW -- AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THERE -- THERE MIGHT BE SOME

                    EMPLOYERS THAT HAVE THE OPPOSITE, YOU KNOW?  SOME FIRMS, YOU KNOW,

                    IF YOU'RE A FIRM THAT HAS NURSES IT'S GOING TO BE PRIMARILY FEMALE.  IF IT'S

                    A FIRM THAT HAS LABORERS, IT MIGHT BE PRIMARILY MALE.  BUT -- BUT WE

                    KNOW THAT SOCIETY HAS ALREADY KIND OF MADE THOSE DISTINCTIONS.  BUT IN

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    A COMPANY THAT MIGHT BE LAWYERS OR MIGHT BE DOCTORS OR MIGHT BE

                    SOME OTHER PROFESSIONAL FIRM WHERE THERE'S MORE OF A BALANCE JUST OUT

                    IN THE WORLD, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYER, IF YOU'RE AN

                    INVESTOR, IS CONFORMING TO YOUR BELIEFS.

                                 MS. WALSH:  DOES THE EEO FORM -- SO, TAKE THE

                    EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE EARLIER OF A COMPANY THAT HAS ONE WOMAN.  IS

                    THERE A RISK THAT THERE COULD BE INFO -- LIKE, SALARY INFORMATION OR

                    INFORMATION THAT CAN BE READILY TRACED BACK TO THAT -- THAT ONE WOMAN

                    THAT'S THERE, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, VIOLATING A SENSE THAT THAT INFORMATION

                    SHOULD BE CONFIDENTIAL?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  THERE'S -- THERE'S NO SALARY

                    INFORMATION THAT IS REQUIRED ON THE FORM.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  IT'S SIMPLY DEMOGRAPHIC.  AND SO THE

                    ONLY PRIVACY INFORMATION THAT -- OR ANY PRIVACY WORRY THAT YOU MIGHT

                    HAVE IS IF A FIRM, AGAIN, HAS ONE EMPLOYEE THAT IS OF A CERTAIN GENDER OR

                    OF A CERTAIN ETHNIC BACKGROUND, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO THAT MIGHT

                    BE WHEN IT'S PUBLISHED.  EVEN THAT'S DOUBTFUL, BUT -- BUT THAT'S THE ONLY

                    PRIVACY RISK.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  AND -- AND WHAT WOULD YOU

                    END UP -- SO YOU JUST KNOW WHO THAT PERSON'S IDENTITY WAS, YOU

                    WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW OTHER KEY INFORMATION ABOUT --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YOU WOULDN'T KNOW.

                                 MS. WALSH:  -- THAT INDIVIDUAL LIKE SALARY OR

                    SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 MS. PAULIN:  RIGHT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  OKAY.

                                 THE ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS RAISED LAST YEAR -- WELL,

                    ACTUALLY TWO YEARS AGO IN DEBATE NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE, FROM MY ESTEEMED

                    COLLEAGUE TO MY RIGHT WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE, AND I'M JUST

                    WONDERING IF ANY THOUGHT WAS GIVEN TO -- TO THAT ISSUE.  IT WAS POINTED

                    OUT THAT ARTICLE III, SECTION 16 OF THE NEW YORK STATE CONSTITUTION IS

                    ALSO VIOLATED BY THE STATUTORY PROVISION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE

                    THE STATE CONSTITUTION EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS INCORPORATION BY REFERENCE

                    IN A BILL, AND THIS BILL PURPORTS TO INCORPORATE BY REFERENCE NOT OTHER

                    NEW YORK STATE STATUTES, BUT FEDERAL REGULATIONS.  AND SO THE ONLY

                    WAY THAT ANYONE WOULD ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THIS BILLS MEANS IS FOR

                    THEM TO LOOK UP A FEDERAL REGULATION ADOPTED BY UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS

                    OR MAKING RULES IN WASHINGTON, AND THAT'S A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE

                    STATE CONSTITUTION.  ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  BECAUSE OF THE CHEVRON CASE, YOU

                    KNOW, THE REGULATORS HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY.  I THINK THAT CASE IS BEFORE

                    THE SUPREME COURT RIGHT NOW, SO WE'LL SEE IF THAT CHANGES.  HAVING

                    SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REFERENCE FEDERAL LAW AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS

                    IN NEW YORK STATE LAW A LOT, AND THIS IS -- SO THIS IS JUST ONE MORE

                    EXAMPLE OF A PLACE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I

                    APPRECIATE THAT.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 730TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  A PARTY VOTE HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  THE REPUBLICAN

                    CONFERENCE WILL BE GENERALLY IN THE NEGATIVE.  BUT I WOULD REMIND MY

                    COLLEAGUES THAT WE WERE ALMOST EVENLY SPLIT THE LAST TIME WE VOTED ON

                    THIS, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.  AND THOSE WHO WISH TO SUPPORT IT SHOULD

                    CERTAINLY VOTE YES ON THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. FALL.

                                 MR. FALL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY

                    CONFERENCE WILL BE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION.  FOR

                    THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOTE IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THEY CAN DO SO AT

                    THEIR DESK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MR. FALL.

                                 MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 AND NOW MR. GOODELL TO EXPLAIN.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  AS I MENTIONED,

                    THE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE HAS BEEN SPLIT ON THIS OVER THE PAST.  WE

                    APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR'S AMENDMENTS THAT MADE THE REPORTING TO THE

                    STATE EEOC TO BE IDENTICAL ON THE FORMAT TO THE FEDERAL REPORTING,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    WHICH FOR MANY OF US WAS A VERY POSITIVE CHANGE.  AT THE SAME TIME,

                    MANY OF US ARE WONDERING WHY THE HECK DO WE DOUBLE THE REPORTING

                    REQUIREMENTS ON ALL OF OUR EMPLOYERS USING THE EXACT SAME FORM?  IT'S

                    LIKE, ARE WE IN A RACE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SEE WHO CAN

                    REQUIRE THE MOST REPORTING?  AND FOR THAT REASON, THE GOVERNOR

                    ACTUALLY VETOED THE LAST ONE AND SHE SAID, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS.

                    THIS PLACES AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE THAT

                    HAVE PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER, AND IT'S ONE MORE UNNECESSARY

                    BURDEN ON BUSINESSES.

                                 SO I RESPECT MY COLLEAGUE'S DESIRE AND THE SPONSOR'S

                    DESIRE TO MAKE THIS SIMPLER, AND IN DOING SO I REALLY HAVE TO QUESTION

                    WHY ARE WE DOING IT AT ALL.  THE DATA IS AVAILABLE IN THE FEDERAL

                    GOVERNMENT.  WE DON'T NEED TO IMPOSE DUPLICATIVE REPORTING

                    REQUIREMENTS JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE THE DECISION TO LOCATE IN NEW

                    YORK.  FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 35, CALENDAR NO. 427, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07194, CALENDAR NO.

                    427, DILAN, DICKENS, TAYLOR, WALKER, DAVILA, ARDILA, HYNDMAN,

                    LUCAS, SEPTIMO, REYES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    RELATION TO CERTIFICATES OF RELIEF FROM DISABILITIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THIS BILL MAKES A SMALL CHANGE IN

                    THE CORRECTION LAW THAT HAS SOMEWHAT SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES.

                    UNDER CURRENT LAW, IF A PERSON HAS BEEN RELEASED FROM PRISON AND

                    MEETS CERTAIN CRITERIA THEY CAN APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF RELIEF FROM

                    DISABILITY [SIC], AND THAT GRANTING OF THE RELIEF IS DISCRETIONARY.  AND SO

                    THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN PREREQUISITES TO APPLY, AND THEN ONCE THEY

                    COMPLETE THOSE PREREQUISITES IT'S A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW BY THE COURT OR

                    PAROLE BOARD TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT CERTIFICATE SHOULD BE ISSUED.  THIS

                    CHANGES THE LAW BY SAYING THAT IF THEY MEET THE PREREQUISITES, THEY

                    MUST GET THE CERTIFICATE OF RELIEF FROM DISABILITIES OR THE OTHER

                    CERTIFICATES THAT ELIMINATE A CERTIFICATE OF RELIEF.  MOST OF US THINK THAT

                    SOME DISCRETION IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE PRECONDITIONS DON'T COVER

                    ALL THE FACTORS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.  AND RATHER THAN AMEND THE

                    LAW AND ADD MORE PRECONDITIONS, WE BELIEVE HAVING SOME

                    DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CIRCUMSTANCE IS A MORE

                    APPROPRIATE APPROACH.

                                 AND I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT BASED ON LEGISLATION WE

                    PASSED LAST YEAR WITH SOME CONSIDERABLE OPPOSITION, ALL CONVICTIONS ARE

                    SEALED AFTER A CERTAIN LENGTH OF TIME -- I THINK IT'S THREE YEARS FOR MIS --

                    MISDEMEANOR, EIGHT YEARS FOR A FELONY -- AND ONCE THEY'RE SEALED, THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    ENTIRE PROCESS OF ASKING FOR A RELIEF FROM DISABILITIES IS RENDERED MOOT.

                    AND SO BASED ON THE FACT WE HAVE AUTOMATIC SEALING NOW IN NEW YORK

                    STATE OF FELONIES AND MISDEMEANORS AFTER A CERTAIN LENGTH OF TIME, WE

                    -- MANY OF US CERTAINLY FEEL THAT THAT DISCRETIONARY REVIEW IN THE

                    INTERIM IS AN IMPORTANT PROTECTION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO MAKE SURE THAT

                    THOSE WHO ARE REHABILITATED CAN GET THE RELIEF THEY'RE SEEKING, AND THOSE

                    WHO STILL HAVE ISSUES CAN HAVE MORE TIME TO FOCUS ON ADDRESSING THOSE

                    ISSUES TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  A PARTY VOTE HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU.  THE REPUBLICAN

                    CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY OPPOSED TO THIS AMENDMENT.  THOSE WHO

                    SUPPORT IT SHOULD CERTAINLY VOTE YES ON THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY CONFERENCE IS GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF THIS PIECE

                    OF LEGISLATION.  THERE MAY BE A FEW OF US THAT WOULD DESIRE TO BE

                    EXCEPTIONS, WE SHOULD FEEL FREE TO DO SO AT OUR SEATS.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. WALKER TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. WALKER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I AM

                    HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL RELATING TO THE CERTIFICATE OF RELIEF FROM

                    DISABILITY [SIC].  I BELIEVE THAT A PERSON SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE

                    OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THEIR CASE FOR FULL INTEGRATION AND

                    SUPPORT INTO SOCIETY.  I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS EFFORT IS AN EFFORT IN SUPPORT

                    OF PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO ADEQUATE

                    HOUSING, EDUCATION, FINANCIAL AID, JOBS, ET CETERA, THAT WE KNOW ARE ALL

                    OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO FULLY SUPPORT AND PARTICIPATE IN

                    OUR CIVIC SOCIETY.  I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES FOR

                    AUTOMATIC SEALING, BUT THOSE DATES DO NOT REPRESENTS THE FLOOR, I SUBMIT,

                    AND INSTEAD REPRESENT -- REPRESENTS THE SEALING.  AND SO AT THE EARLIEST

                    OPPORTUNITY FOR A PERSON TO APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF RELIEF FROM

                    DISABILITY [SIC], I BELIEVE IS A GREAT MEASURE THAT WE'RE TAKING UNDER

                    TODAY AND I PROUDLY SUPPORT AND VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WALKER IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 ON PAGE 5 ON CONSENT, RULES REPORT NO. 44, THE

                    CLERK WILL READ.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00589-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 44, L. ROSENTHAL, DINOWITZ, COLTON, EPSTEIN, WALKER,

                    BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HOUSING LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    REQUIRING THE DIVISION OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY RENEWAL TO

                    ESTABLISH A PUBLICLY-ACCESSIBLE ONLINE DATABASE OF BUILDING-WIDE MAJOR

                    CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05367-B, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 45, LUCAS, AUBRY, COLTON, LEVENBERG, STECK.  AN ACT TO

                    DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION TO

                    JOINTLY STUDY AND REPORT UPON THE PROVISIONS TO CONSUMER CREDIT

                    REPORTING AGENCIES BY PUBLIC UTILITY COMPANIES, CABLE TELEVISION

                    COMPANIES AND CELLULAR TELEPHONE SERVICE SUPPLIERS OF INFORMATION ON

                    LATE PAYMENTS OR DEFAULT ON ANY FEES OR CHARGES INCURRED BY

                    CONSUMERS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS UPON

                    EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    LUCAS, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05512, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 46, L. ROSENTHAL, DE LOS SANTOS, ZINERMAN, RAGA.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING THE

                    REQUIREMENT THAT A COURT PROCEEDING HAS BEEN INITIATED AGAINST AN

                    INDIVIDUAL IN ORDER FOR SUCH INDIVIDUAL TO QUALIFY FOR A RENT ARREARS

                    GRANT OR ONGOING RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05750, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 47, PAULIN, SAYEGH, JACKSON, TAPIA, SEPTIMO, LAVINE, DE LOS

                    SANTOS, SIMONE, WEPRIN, REYES, BRABENEC, SIMON.  AN ACT TO AMEND

                    THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO THE SUBMISSION OF CLAIMS FOR

                    SERVICES PROVIDED BY HOME CARE AGENCIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05802-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 48, SOLAGES.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY

                    OF NASSAU ASSESSOR TO ACCEPT AN APPLICATION FOR A REAL PROPERTY TAX

                    EXEMPTION FROM 786 MUHAMMADI MASJID, INC.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05803-B, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 49, PAULIN, GUNTHER, MCDONALD, FAHY, STERN, KIM,

                    HYNDMAN, WOERNER, SHIMSKY, CARROLL, DICKENS, MCMAHON, SIMON,

                    MCDONOUGH, RA, DE LOS SANTOS, STIRPE, BUTTENSCHON, SILLITTI,

                    SEAWRIGHT, THIELE, LEVENBERG, HEVESI, MANKTELOW, BRABENEC, JENSEN,

                    DESTEFANO, SAYEGH, SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A STATE PARKINSON'S DISEASE REGISTRY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    PAULIN, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06136-B, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 50, EACHUS, LUPARDO, BUTTENSCHON, SHIMSKY, LEVENBERG,

                    ARDILA, SIMON, OTIS, LUNSFORD, DE LOS SANTOS, ZACCARO, JACOBSON,

                    BLANKENBUSH, GALLAHAN, TAGUE, BRABENEC, MAHER, DESTEFANO,

                    BENDETT, ANGELINO, BERGER, MCDONALD, GUNTHER, PAULIN, AUBRY,

                    WILLIAMS, BLUMENCRANZ, REYES, GANDOLFO, J.M. GIGLIO, BEEPHAN,

                    NORRIS, MANKTELOW, JENSEN, GIBBS, SEAWRIGHT, LUCAS, SIMPSON,

                    MCGOWAN, SANTABARBARA, TAYLOR, LEMONDES, STIRPE, FAHY, BARRETT,

                    COOK, SAYEGH.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS TO EXEMPT AMBULANCES AND FIRE

                    VEHICLES FROM PAYING TOLLS ON THE NEW YORK STATE THRUWAY WHEN

                    ENGAGED IN AN EMERGENCY OPERATION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. EACHUS TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. EACHUS:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  FIRST OF

                    ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE FLOOR THAT ARE

                    SUPPORTING THIS VERY IMPORTANT EMS BILL.  IT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.  I

                    DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS ARE AWARE THAT THE EMS UNITS THAT RESPOND

                    TO THRUWAY EMERGENCIES HAD TO ACTUALLY APPLY TO GET THE MONEY BACK.

                    THEY HAD TO PAY THE TOLLS AND APPLY TO GET THE MONEY BACK.  WE KNOW

                    THE BURDENS THAT THE EMS SERVICES ALL OVER THE STATE ARE GOING THROUGH,

                    AND CERTAINLY THAT WAS A BURDENSOME SITUATION FOR THEM.  BUT THIS IS

                    ONLY ONE OF SEVEN BILLS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE EMS TO RESCUE THE EMS

                    AND THEIR DESPERATE SITUATIONS, AND I DON'T FEEL WE CAN WAIT FOR ANY OF

                    THE SIX OTHER BILLS THAT WILL BECOMING FORTH, BUT TO VOTE ON THEM DURING

                    THIS SESSION BECAUSE LORD KNOWS HOW MANY EMS UNITS WE WOULD LOSE

                    IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.  SO IT IS MY HOPE THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING THOSE

                    SIX MORE BILLS AS PART OF THE PACKAGE FORWARD TO HELP OUR EMS FOLKS.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'M IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. EACHUS IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07214, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 51, MCDONALD.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO SUBMISSION OF INFORMATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR

                    PHYSICIAN PROFILES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MR. MCDONALD, THE SENATE BILL IS

                    BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08029-C, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 52, EPSTEIN, FAHY, LUCAS, AUBRY, SEAWRIGHT, GLICK, KIM,

                    LEVENBERG, CHANG, LEE, SAYEGH, RAGA.  AN ACT DIRECTING THE

                    METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AND THE NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT

                    AUTHORITY TO RENAME THE 23RD STREET SUBWAY STATION TO THE 23

                    ST-BARUCH COLLEGE STATION; AND PROVIDES FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH

                    PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

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                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. EPSTEIN TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. EPSTEIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE TO

                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  SO, BARUCH COLLEGE IS AN ICON IN OUR COMMUNITY.  IT

                    SERVES 20,000 STUDENTS, IT IS THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY THAT

                    MOVES STUDENTS FROM LOWER INCOME TO A HIGHER INCOME.  IT IS -- TAKES

                    PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY AND TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES.  THIS SUBWAY STATION

                    RIGHT AT 23RD STREET WILL NOW CO-READ BARUCH COLLEGE AND 23RD STREET

                    LEXINGTON LINE.  IT WILL GIVE PEOPLE A MARKER TO KNOW WHERE BARUCH IS

                    AND SHOW ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY COMMUNITY.

                                 I ENCOURAGE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS

                    BILL.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. EPSTEIN IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08365-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 53, WOERNER, MCDONALD, ANGELINO, MAGNARELLI, GUNTHER,

                    GRAY, DESTEFANO, LUPARDO, PAULIN, LUNSFORD, SEAWRIGHT, THIELE,

                    JONES, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, SAYEGH, RAGA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC

                    HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A CAMPAIGN TO PROMOTE PUBLIC

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    AWARENESS OF THE CAUSES OF ORAL DISEASE AND ITS PREVENTION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. WOERNER TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. WOERNER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  GOOD ORAL CARE IS THE FOUNDATION FOR

                    GOOD HEALTH THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE.  ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN

                    NEW YORK STATE IS THAT WE HAVE A DEARTH OF DENTISTS IN COMMUNITIES

                    ACROSS THE STATE.  ESTIMATES ARE THAT WE NEED 4,000 MORE DENTISTS

                    PRACTICING IN NEW YORK, AND PARTICULARLY IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE

                    IS SIGNIFICANT POVERTY AND A LOT OF MEDICAID PATIENTS, YOU DON'T FIND A

                    LOT OF DENTISTS.  WHEN YOU TALK TO THE DENTISTS WHO DO PRACTICE IN THOSE

                    AREAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALK ABOUT IS THAT BECAUSE GOOD DENTAL

                    CARE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND AND EMBRACE

                    EARLY ON IN LIFE, BY THE TIME THEY DO MAKE IT TO A DENTIST THE -- THE CARE

                    IS COMPLEX AND PAINFUL AND COSTLY.  AND SO THIS BILL TO CREATE A PUBLIC

                    AWARENESS CAMPAIGN OF THE CAUSES OF ORAL DISEASE AND ITS PREVENTION TO

                    HELP PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO CARE FOR THEIR TEETH FROM -- AND THEIR

                    CHILDREN'S TEETH FROM AN EARLY AGE WILL HOPEFULLY START TO TURN THAT

                    AROUND SO THAT BY THE TIME SOMEONE GETS TO A DENTIST IT IS NOT AS

                    COMPLEX, AS PAINFUL OR AS COSTLY TO TREAT THEIR -- TO TREAT THE PROBLEMS

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    THEY MIGHT HAVE IN THEIR MOUTH.

                                 SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, AND MAY YOU ALL

                    HAVE GOOD DENTAL HEALTH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WOERNER --

                                 MS. WOERNER:  AND WITH THAT I VOTE IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WOERNER IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  I REALLY DO WANT TO APPRECIATE THE

                    SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION.  YOU KNOW, SOME OF US, YOU KNOW, WHO DO

                    OUR REGULAR DENTAL VISITS AND WE DREAD HEARING THAT DRILL, WE DREAD EVEN

                    WALKING INTO THE OFFICE, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE

                    OF HEALTHCARE.  THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT IN THIS STATE

                    WHO DO NOT.  AND IT IS JUST SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HELP THEM

                    GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THERE.  SO I REALLY WANT TO HONOR THE SPONSOR

                    OF THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, AND I HOPE THAT IT'S HONORED TO ITS FULL EXTENT

                    AND THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ARE REACHED OUT TO AND ENCOURAGED

                    TO USE THE SERVICES OF ANY DENTAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE IN THEIR

                    COMMUNITY.  I KNOW IN BUFFALO, THE UNIVERSITY OF BUFFALO HAS AN

                    AMAZING DENTAL SCHOOL WHERE THEY'RE TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO BE

                    DENTISTS, BUT THEY ALSO OFFER SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY.  SO IT'S NOT

                    ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT'S PROHIBITED IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING INSURANCE OR

                    NOT HAVING ACCESS.  THE POINT IS THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW YOU NEED IT.

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                    AND SO I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR PUSHING FORWARD ON THAT ONE.

                    AND I TRUST THAT SOON THERE WILL BE OTHER PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT

                    WOULD BEGIN TO ALLOW PARENTS TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE AN

                    IMPACT ON ENSURING THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAVE GOOD DENTAL HEALTH.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.  MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09066, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 54, PEOPLES-STOKES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE LOCAL FINANCE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO THE SALE OF MUNICIPAL OBLIGATIONS BY THE COUNTY OF ERIE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU.  TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.

                    ALMOST ALL OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE STATE USE OPEN, TRANSPARENT

                    COMPETITIVE BIDDING FOR THE SALE OF THEIR BONDS.  AND THEY DO THAT

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                    BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, IT'S THE MOST FAIR METHOD.  IT GIVES EVERYBODY AN

                    EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BID.  SECOND, IT'S BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN

                    TO GIVE US THE BEST PRICE.  AND THIRD, IT REDUCES THE CHANCE OF COLLUSION,

                    COLLABORATION THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE OR FRAUD OR CORRUPTION.  BUT WE HAVE

                    HISTORICALLY DONE EXCEPTIONS TO COMPETITIVE BIDDING WHEN A

                    MUNICIPALITY IS FACING AN EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT FINANCIAL SITUATION

                    WHERE AN OPEN COMPETITIVE BID IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IT.  AND IN

                    FACT, THIS YEAR IN THE BUDGET WE EXTENDED PRIVATE SALE OF BONDS TO THE

                    CITY OF DUNKIRK IN MY DISTRICT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HORRIFIC FINANCIAL

                    SITUATION RELATING BACK TO THE LOSS OF THEIR LARGEST SINGLE TAXPAYER, AND

                    WE AUTHORIZED THEM TO DO A PRIVATE SALE.  THEIR CREDIT RATING, I THINK, IS

                    C-, WHICH IS ONE STEP ABOVE JUNK BOND.  WE AUTHORIZED DUN -- BUFFALO

                    TO DO PRIVATE SALES -- I'M SORRY, THE COUNTY OF ERIE TO DO PRIVATE SALES

                    WHEN THEY WERE UNDER EXTRAORDINARY FISCAL STRESS IN 1996, 28 YEARS

                    AGO.  AND WE DID IT ON A TEMPORARY BASIS BECAUSE OF THEIR FISCAL STRESS.

                    BUT I'M PROUD TO REPORT THAT THE COUNTY OF ERIE HAS TURNED THEIR

                    FINANCES AROUND AND NOW HAVE A -- NOW HAS A AA- BOND RATING, A VERY

                    HIGH BOND RATING.  SO THIS WENT THROUGH ON A FAST VOTE AS A COURTESY TO

                    MY COLLEAGUE AS A LOCAL BILL, BUT CONCEPTUALLY I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD

                    BE A PERMANENT SITUATION.  I'M VOTING AGAINST IT.  I KNOW IN YEARS PAST

                    WE'VE HAD 38 NO VOTES TWO YEARS AGO, 13 LAST YEAR, BUT -- AND THAT'S THE

                    CONCERN WE HAVE.

                                 SO I'LL BE VOTING NO BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT

                    AND I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED ANYMORE AFTER 28 YEARS.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL IN THE

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                    NEGATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09132, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 55, SHIMSKY.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 334 OF THE LAWS OF 2012

                    RELATING TO AUTHORIZING THE TOWN OF GREENBURGH, COUNTY OF

                    WESTCHESTER, TO LEASE CERTAIN PARKLANDS FOR TENNIS USES, IN RELATION TO

                    THE DEFINITION OF TENNIS FACILITIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    SHIMSKY, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE HAVE BOTH.  WE'LL

                    START WITH HOUSEKEEPING.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. BARRETT, PAGE 24, CALENDAR NO.

                    177, BILL A06253, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. CRUZ, PAGE 27, CALENDAR NO.

                    321, BILL 9117, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 ON BEHALF OF MS. HYNDMAN, BILL NO. A05019,

                    ASSEMBLY BILL RECALLED FROM THE SENATE.  THE CLERK WILL READ THE TITLE

                    OF THE BILL.

                                 THE CLERK:  AN ACT TO AMEND THE BANKING LAW.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MOTION TO RECONSIDER

                    THE VOTE BY WHICH THE BILL PASSED THE HOUSE.  THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE

                    VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE AND THE AMENDMENTS ARE

                    RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 WE HAVE A PRIVILEGED RESOLUTION BY MR. SANTABARBARA,

                    RESOLUTION NO. 2205, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2205, MR.

                    SANTABARBARA.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MOURNING THE DEATH OF JOHN

                    M. GRASSIA, III, NEW YORK STATE TROOPER AND CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 2

                    IN THE NEW YORK STATE [SIC] ARMY NATIONAL GUARD.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. SANTABARBARA ON

                    THE RESOLUTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 MR. SANTABARBARA:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER,

                    FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION HONORING THE LIFE AND

                    SERVICE OF JOHN M. GRASSIA, III FROM MY HOMETOWN OF ROTTERDAM.  OUR

                    HEARTS ARE HEAVY AS WE REFLECT ON JOHN, A TRUE HERO WHO EXEMPLIFIED

                    THE ESSENCE OF SERVICE AND SACRIFICE.  JOHN WAS MORE THAN JUST A NEW

                    YORK STATE TROOPER AND CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 2 IN THE NEW YORK

                    ARMY NATIONAL GUARD.  HE WAS A BEACON OF COURAGE AND SELFLESSNESS

                    IN OUR COMMUNITY.  HIS LIFE WAS MARKED BY DEDICATION TO DUTY AND

                    COMMITMENT TO SERVING OTHERS.  TRAGICALLY, HIS LIFE WAS CUT SHORT WHILE

                    SERVING ON A MISSION WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD, REMINDING US OF THE

                    INHERENT RISKS OUR SERVICE MEMBERS FACE.  DESPITE THE DANGERS, JOHN

                    NEVER WAVERED IN HIS COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING OTHERS, DISPLAYING

                    COURAGE AND RESILIENCE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY.

                                 TODAY WE HONOR JOHN FOR HIS UNWAVERING DEDICATION

                    TO DUTY, HIS PROFOUND IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY AND NATION.  HIS

                    BRAVERY AND SELFLESSNESS SERVE AS AN ENDURING SOURCE OF INSPIRATION TO

                    ALL OF US.  TO HIS FAMILY WHO ARE JOINING US HERE TODAY, WE OFFER OUR

                    DEEPEST CONDOLENCES.  WE ARE FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR HIS SERVICE AND

                    SACRIFICE.  HIS LEGACY OF KINDNESS, BRAVERY AND SELFLESSNESS WILL FOREVER

                    BE ETCHED IN OUR HEARTS.  AS WE REFLECT ON JOHN'S LIFE, LET US NOT ONLY

                    MOURN HIS PASSING, BUT ALSO CELEBRATE THE PROFOUND IMPACT HE HAD ON

                    OTHERS AROUND HIM.  LET US REMEMBER HIM FOR HIS COURAGE, HIS

                    DEDICATION, HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVING OTHERS.  MAY HIS MEMORY

                    CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US TO STRIVE FOR A BETTER WORLD.  LET US ALSO CELEBRATE

                    HOW HE MADE A DIFFERENCE.  HE SHOWED US WHAT IT MEANS TO BE BRAVE,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    DEDICATED AND CARING.  LET'S KEEP JOHN'S MEMORY ALIVE BY EMBODYING

                    THOSE SAME VALUES.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MAY WE RISE.

                                 ON THIS RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE.  AND IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 OUR BLESSINGS AND PRAYERS GO WITH THIS FAMILY.  THANK

                    YOU FOR JOINING US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 RESOLUTION NO. 2206, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2206, MR.

                    MCDONALD.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MOURNING THE DEATH OF CASEY

                    FRANKOSKI, CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 2 IN THE NEW YORK ARMY NATIONAL

                    GUARD.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. MCDONALD ON

                    THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. MCDONALD:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  ON

                    MARCH 8TH OF THIS YEAR WE SAID GOODBYE TO A TRUE HERO, CASEY

                    FRANKOSKI OF RENSSELAER, WHO ALONG WITH MR. GRASSIA WERE SERVING OUR

                    COUNTRY.  BORN ON APRIL 11, 1995, CASEY WAS RAISED IN EAST GREENBUSH

                    BEFORE SETTLING IN RENSSELAER.  CASEY IS SURVIVED BY HER PARENTS, JAMES

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    AND JILL; HER GRANDFATHER, RAYMOND; HER BROTHERS, JESSE AND TYLER; HER

                    SISTERS-IN-LAW, LINDSEY AND AUTUMN; MANY NIECES AND NEPHEWS, MANY

                    AUNTS AND UNCLES, MANY GREAT FRIENDS; HER SOULMATE, ANTHONY; AND

                    MANY LOVED ONES.  CASEY EPITOMIZED COURAGE AND DETERMINATION.  AS

                    SHE BRAVELY SERVED OUR COUNTRY, ENLISTING IN THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD

                    IN 2016, RAPIDLY RISING TO THE RANK OF CHIEF WARRANT OFFICER 2 AND

                    TRAINING AS A UH-60 BLACK HAWK HELICOPTER PILOT, HER COMMITMENT

                    KNEW NO BOUNDS.  FROM KUWAIT TO TEXAS, CASEY'S SERVICE WAS MARKED

                    BY VALOR AND DEDICATION, EARNING HER NUMEROUS HONORS AND ACCOLADES.

                                 BEYOND HER MILITARY SERVICE, CASEY'S LIFE WAS A

                    TAPESTRY OF COMPASSION AND ADVENTURE.  FROM HER DAYS AS A VOLUNTEER

                    FIREFIGHTER TO HER LOVE FOR THE OUTDOORS, SHE TOUCHED COUNTLESS LIVES

                    WITH HER WARMTH AND HER KINDNESS.  WHETHER SHE WAS GUIDING GIRL

                    SCOUTS THROUGH THE INTRICACIES OF AVIATION OR CHEERING ON HER FAVORITE

                    COUNTRY ARTISTS FROM THAT VIP SECTION, CASEY'S ENTHUSIASM WAS

                    CONTAGIOUS.

                                 THE FRANKOSKI AND NARDACCI FAMILIES, WHICH IS WHERE

                    CASEY'S FAMILY COMES FROM, ARE VERY STRONG PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY

                    IN RENSSELAER.  AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE RECEIVED CASEY'S BODY AT THE

                    AIRPORT BACK IN MARCH, I WAS TALKING TO HER UNCLE TOMMY, WHO SHE

                    WORKED WITH FOR A SUMMER IN A COMMUNICATIONS FIRM, AND SHE WAS

                    GREAT.  HE LOVED IT.  HE SAID, CASEY, STAY WITH ME.  I'LL GIVE YOU A JOB.

                    SHE GOES, NO, UNCLE TOM, I LOVE TO FLY, I LOVE MY COUNTRY.  I WANT TO DO

                    MY SERVICE.  SO SHE LEAVES BEHIND A CHERISHED NETWORK OF RELATIVES,

                    FRIENDS AND BELOVED PETS.  THOUGH SHE MAY BE GONE FROM OUR SIGHT,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                    CASEY -- CASEY'S SPIRIT WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE ALL OF US, GUIDING US

                    WITH HER LIGHT AND REMINDING US OF THE PROFOUND IMPACT ONE PERSON CAN

                    MAKE.

                                 TODAY, COLLEAGUES, AS WE HONOR CASEY'S MEMORY, LET

                    US CARRY FORWARD HER LEGACY OF COMPASSION, BRAVERY AND JOY.  REST IN

                    PEACE, CASEY.  YOU WILL BE MISSED BUT NEVER FORGOTTEN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AGAIN, MAY WE

                    STAND.

                                 A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 WE HAVE NUMBER OTHER RESOLUTIONS WHICH WE WILL TAKE

                    UP WITH ONE VOTE.

                                 ON THESE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY

                    SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 2207-2209

                    WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  I NOW MOVE THAT THE

                    ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL FRIDAY, MAY THE 16TH, TOMORROW BEING

                    A LEGISLATIVE DAY, AND THAT WE RECONVENE AT 2:00 P.M. ON MONDAY, MAY

                    THE 20TH BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 16, 2024

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 12:25 P.M., THE HOUSE STOOD

                    ADJOURNED UNTIL FRIDAY, MAY 16TH, THAT BEING A LEGISLATIVE DAY, AND TO

                    RECONVENE ON MONDAY, MAY 20TH AT 2:00 P.M., THAT BEING A SESSION

                    DAY.)











































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