WEDNESDAY, MAY 22, 2024                                            2:00 P.M.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  The House will come

                    to order.

                                 The Reverend Elia will offer a prayer.

                                 REVEREND ELIA:  Let us pray.  Holy One, You are

                    above all and in all, and through all, and we give You thanks for this

                    day, this moment, and the very air we breathe.  Thank You.  Receive

                    our gratitude.  Pour out a generous measure of Your spirit and love

                    and wisdom upon this Assembly.  Strengthen legislators, staff and all

                    who are gathered for the work at hand.  Fill them with hope and

                    shared purpose for the well-being of our communities and our State.

                    Bless their dear ones and all who are in need of healing mercy or

                    encouragement on this day.  On this day, we are particularly grateful

                    for the disabilities awareness movement.  Thank You for every day

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                    heros like Micah Fialka-Feldman, a neurodivergent man who

                    successfully fought for the right to live on campus and is now

                    employed by Syracuse University.  Thank You for Denise Figueroa of

                    the Independent Living Center of the Hudson Valley, a person who is

                    post-Polio and advocates for access that makes a difference.  Thank

                    You for countless advocates, teachers, architects, and sign language

                    interpreters, all of whom build stronger communities.  Holy One, we

                    pray for peace and well-being everywhere.  Give us the wisdom and

                    desire to do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with You.  In

                    Your Holy Name we pray, Amen.

                                 MEMBERS:  Amen.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Visitors are invited

                    to join the members in the Pledge of Allegiance.

                                 (Whereupon, Acting Speaker Aubry led visitors and

                    members in the Pledge of Allegiance.)

                                 (Applause)

                                 A quorum being present, the Clerk will read the

                    Journal of Tuesday, May the 21st.

                                 Mrs. Peoples-Stokes.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Mr. Speaker, I move to

                    dispense with the further reading of the Journal of Tuesday, May the

                    21st, and that the same stand approved.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Without objection, so

                    ordered.

                                 Mrs. Peoples-Stokes.

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                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Thank you, sir.  To our

                    multiple guests that are in the Chambers, and certainly to our

                    members, I have a quote I'd like to share with you today.  This one

                    comes from John Fitzgerald Kennedy, often referred to as JFK.  He

                    was an American politician and served as our President at some point,

                    Mr. Speaker.  His words for us today, Change is the law of life, and

                    those who look only to the past, or the present, are certain to miss the

                    future.  Again, these words from former President John Fitzgerald

                    Kennedy.

                                 Mr. Speaker, colleagues have on their desks a main

                    Calendar and a debate list.  We're going to begin our work today by

                    calling for the Rules Committee to meet; this Committee is going to

                    produce an A-Calendar.  Then, we will also be calling for the

                    following Committees to meet as well:  Ways and Means, Consumers,

                    and Higher Education.  Our principal work for today will be taking up

                    six bills on our Legislative Disability Awareness Package.  These bills

                    include Calendar No. 37 by Mr. Epstein; Calendar No. 163 by Mr.

                    Epstein; Calendar No. 188 Ms. Kelles; 1 -- Calendar No. 65 by Ms.

                    Buttenschon -- I'm sorry, that's not a Calendar, that's a Rules Report,

                    Mr. Speaker, Rules Report No. 65 from Ms. Buttenschon; Rules

                    Report No. 71 from Mr. Burdick; and Rules Report No. 80 by Ms.

                    Seawright.  After we conclude this package, we're going to work off

                    the debate list by taking up the following bills in this order:  Calendar

                    No. 309 by Mr. Lavine; Calendar No. 403 by Mr. Hevesi; and

                    Calendar No. 2 -- 424 by Ms. Paulin.  There may be a need to

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                    announce further floor activity, Mr. Speaker, if so I will mention it at

                    that time.  However, Majority colleagues should be aware that there is

                    definitely going to be a need for a conference immediately following

                    our work on the floor.  And as always, we'll check with our colleagues

                    over here to see if they have any needs like that.

                                 This a general outline of where we're going, Mr.

                    Speaker.  If you could begin with housekeeping.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Yes, we do have

                    some housekeeping, Mrs. Peoples-Stokes.

                                 On a motion by Ms. Rosenthal, page 8, Calendar No.

                    3, Bill No. A00048-C, amendments are received and adopted.

                                 On a motion Mr. Rivera, page 19, Calendar No. 135,

                    Bill No. A04820-A, amendments are received and adopted.

                                 On a motion Ms. Tapia, page 27, Calendar No. 336,

                    Bill No. A08999-B, the amendments are received and adopted.

                                 And Mr. People-Stokes for a Committee

                    announcement.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Mr. Speaker, if you

                    would now call the Rules Committee to the Speaker's Conference

                    Room.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Rules Committee,

                    Speaker's Conference Room immediately.

                                 For the purposes of a introduction, Ms. Buttenschon.

                                 MS. BUTTENSCHON:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I

                    enthusiastically introduce my two grandsons, William and Alexander,

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                    and my daughter, Lindsey.  I rise today also as later in our

                    proceedings, we will be providing a resolution to recognize

                    Eosinophilic Esophagitis Week, which is a disease that is type of a

                    white blood cell disease that it has a buildup in the lining of the

                    esophagus.  My grandson, Alex, is faced with this challenge every

                    day, and clearly is, within this Assembly, this resolution reminds us of

                    the importance of the research, and dedication and commitment to so

                    many in the medical field that assist children, as my son -- grandson,

                    Alexander.  It affects individuals of all ages.  It is something that we

                    have seen for about a decade, and clearly we're not certain of the

                    cause.  So I am honored to carry the resolution later today, and I wish

                    that my colleagues will support it with me, as well as welcome my

                    family to the Assembly today.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Certainly.  On behalf

                    of Ms. Buttenschon, the Speaker and all the members, Will, Alex,

                    your mother, your grandmother, we welcome you here to the New

                    York State Assembly.  We extend to you the privileges of the floor.

                    You are family, you always have these privileges.  Thank you so much

                    for being with us, and it's been great to have you visit, and you did a

                    good job up here.  Thank you so very much.

                                 (Applause)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Mr. Zebrowski for

                    the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MR. ZEBROWSKI:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I also

                    have a family member in the Chambers today.  I'd like to introduce my

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                    sister, Kathryn Zebrowski.  Kathryn was the youngest of the six kids

                    that were in my family, or that are in my family, and although she was

                    the youngest, she never struggled to be heard.  And you know, now,

                    grown up, she has been a schoolteacher for a number of years,

                    11 years, actually, she has been an elementary schoolteacher, four in

                    the Bronx and for the last seven years she has been in our home

                    district where we both went in Clarkstown, she teaches at the Wood

                    Glen Elementary School first grade, but she's moving back to

                    kindergarten next year.  She came up to see the proceedings here

                    today, Mr. Speaker, and I would appreciate if you would welcome her

                    to the Chambers.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Zebrowski, the Speaker and all the members, we

                    welcome you, Kathryn, here to the Chamber and extend the privileges

                    of the floor.  Thank you for what you do every day.  Being a former

                    teacher myself, I know what you go through, combat pay is deserved,

                    I'm sure, and hope that you enjoy the proceedings here.  You come

                    from a great family lineage, thank you very much.  Thank you for

                    being here.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Ms. -- Ms. Seawright for the purposes of an

                    introduction.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I rise

                    to introduce the New York Alliance for Developmental Disabilities

                    Family Stakeholder Members Katie Faivre, NYADD Regional Lead

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                    from the Hudson Valley; Mary McGuire-Weafer, OPWDD Family

                    Support Services Statewide representative and co-Chair of the

                    Manhattan Developmental Disabilities Council Executive Committee;

                    Lucille Rossi, representing the Westchester Institute of Development;

                    Dr. Young Seh Bae, Executive Director of Special Education; Steve

                    Gonyea, Simcha Weinstein, Shannon LaVine, Lucille Rossi and Susan

                    Hucko, who are all in town today for Legislative Disability Awareness

                    Day.  We also have Coach Ryan Martin, who is the Director of the

                    Inclusive Adaptive Sports for the City University of New York

                    CUNY.  His portfolio includes a men's and women's wheelchair

                    basketball team, as well as an emerging wheelchair tennis and track

                    program.  Ryan was recognized as the 2022 College Coach of the

                    Year by the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee.  The

                    CUNY Adaptive Sports program is the only intercollegiate adaptive

                    sports program on the East Coast.  Coach Ryan is the Executive

                    Director of the International NPO, the Ryan Martin Foundation, and

                    its mission to help youth and adult athletes with disabilities live

                    independent, impassioned, productive and full lives through sports

                    training, mentoring, and education.  If you will please welcome them

                    to the Chamber today.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Ms. Seawright, the Speaker and all the members, we

                    welcome you to the Chamber.  This is a very special welcome for me,

                    as I do have a daughter with developmental disabilities and I was a

                    paralympic coach myself, at one time, so I know what you do on a

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                    daily basis, and I thank you so much.  And I hope -- I hope you enjoy

                    the proceedings as you see them today, and thank you for joining us

                    today on the floor.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mr. Gandolfo for the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  In

                    Albany with us today, we have Roger Sampson, the Executive

                    Director of New York 811.  New York 811 is a non-profit that serves

                    as the communications link between utility companies and individuals

                    who plan to dig on their property in the five boroughs and Nassau,

                    Suffolk Counties on Long Island.  As we enter the prime digging

                    season, Roger's here to raise awareness that when you dig, you can

                    damage a lot of our very vital underground infrastructure, our gas

                    lines, electric, water, what have you.  So Roger's here to raise

                    awareness, remind everyone to call 8-1-1 before you dig, and we

                    thank Roger and New York 811 for the vital work they do protecting

                    New Yorkers.  So would you please welcome Roger to our Chamber

                    and send him all the cordialities of the House today.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Gandolfo, the Speaker and all the members, we

                    welcome you, Roger, here to the Chamber and extend the privileges of

                    the floor.  Thank you for keeping so many people safe, and it's

                    important that we do get that information out.  I hope you enjoy the

                    proceedings, and I thank you very much for being here with us today.

                                 (Applause)

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                                 Mr. Zaccaro for the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MR. ZACCARO:  Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker.

                    It is always an honor to introduce individuals from my Assembly

                    district who are making incredible contributions to our community in

                    the Bronx.  And today, I would like to acknowledge and extend the

                    cordialities of the House to the remarkable team from Alba Life

                    School who are present with us here in Albany today.  The founders of

                    Albanian TV and School, Alba Life, are Mr. Qemal Zylo and his wife,

                    Kozeta Zylo.  When they migrated to New York from Albania, They

                    recognized the importance of creating outlets for the

                    Albanian-American community to stay connected with their heritage.

                    Thousands of Albanian-American children in the diaspora were at risk

                    of losing their language and culture; however, thanks to the dedication

                    of the founders, the teachers, and everyone involved, this trend has

                    significantly reversed.  Alba Life, founded 17 years ago, has expanded

                    its Albanian language learning program across all neighborhoods of

                    New York.  Their program focuses not only on teaching the Albanian

                    language, but also on the history, culture, dance and song from various

                    regions of Albania and Kosovo.  As a proud representative of the

                    largest Albanian community in the Bronx, I am grateful to have such

                    dedicated individuals working to enrich our young people.  It is often

                    said that it takes a village to raise a child, and I would like to

                    recognize some key members of the Alba Life community and thank

                    them for their hard work today:  Qemal, Valbona, Kozeta, Klodiana,

                    Entela, Rozeta, Fatlinda, Erinda, Albana, Mehrije and Valon.

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                                 Mr. Speaker, today if you could so graciously

                    welcome them today and extend to them the cordialities of the House,

                    we'd be most grateful for you to do that.  Thank you so much.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Absolutely.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Zaccaro, the Speaker and all the members, we welcome

                    you to the Chamber.  We hope that you enjoy your visit here.  Thank

                    you so much for what you do for the Albanian community, and that's

                    for all of New York.  Thank you so much.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mr. Gallahan for the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  It's my

                    pleasure today to introduce the students and faculty from the Wayne

                    Finger Lakes P-TECH Program.  But I'm certain that many of you

                    here in the room today don't recognize or know about this program.

                    It's a very important program in our schools.  P-TECH was established

                    to provide a holistic approach to education and workforce

                    development.  The City University of New York designed and

                    launched along with IBM the first P-TECH school in Brooklyn, New

                    York, in September of 2011.  The first class graduated in June of

                    2015.  P-TECH is a public education model, focused on college

                    attainment and career readiness.  P-TECH schools span grades 9-14

                    and enable students to earn both high school diploma and a no-cost

                    two-year post-secondary degree in a STEM field, which is science,

                    technology, engineering and math.  Upon graduation, students have

                    the academic and professional skills that require either to continue

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                    their education in a four year post-secondary institution, or enter into a

                    entry level career in IT, advanced manufacturing, mechanical

                    engineering and other STEM field related careers.  Their mission

                    statement -- the program mission statement reads:  To transform

                    college and career readiness by entering new pathways between

                    education and in-demand high-tech careers by supporting of culture

                    and learning an environment with tools and resources necessary to

                    acquire and create knowledge, collaborate, and use creativity to

                    innovate.  Our schools connect students with careers throughout

                    partnerships with higher education, with community, the region and

                    the entire world.  P-TECH's Wayne Finger Lakes vision is to provide a

                    rigorous and relevant education focused on completing the

                    requirements for high school Regents diploma on time, and FLCC,

                    Finger Lakes Community College, AAS degree while preparing for a

                    career in readiness.  Focus early on a chosen college pathway that

                    leads to successful on-time completion of a high school, plus earn an

                    AAS degree from Finger Lakes Community College, a multi-year

                    focus commitment.  Students meet the requirements for a Regents

                    diploma during years one through four, they begin courses -- college

                    courses in 9th grade.  During years one through four in dual

                    enrollment and then complete the remainder of their five and six years

                    at FLCC.

                                 In my recent visit to P-TECH Wayne Finger Lakes

                    School, I was thoroughly impressed with the collaboration, the

                    exciting attitudes, and eagerness to learn from the students.  The

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                    administration, teachers, and staff were all unbelievably connected to

                    each and every student in the school, and well-equipped classroom

                    tools were very impressive.  Mr. Speaker, visiting here in Albany

                    today are students Mollie Asquino, Cameron Baker, Devon Claeys,

                    Olivia Colvin, Jaylyn Gramz, and James Trembley.  Also, District

                    Superintendent Lynne Rutnik; Director of Communications, Shannon

                    Marshall; P-TECH Principal Kathi McGuigan and P-TECH English

                    teacher Daisy - and I know I'm not going to get this right - Fantauzzi.

                                 Mr. Speaker, would you please welcome the P-TECH

                    family to the Assembly Chamber and afford them all the

                    congenialities of the People's House.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Gallahan, the Speaker and all the members of the

                    Assembly, we welcome you, this P-TECH group, to the floor.  I am

                    very familiar with P-TECH.  I also taught at a high school that had a

                    P-TECH program.  You folks are clearly brilliant, amazing, and I'm

                    sure you're going to do great things in the future.  Thank you for

                    joining us, and I hope you enjoy the proceedings here today.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mrs. Peoples-Stokes for the purposes of an

                    introduction.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Thank you, Mr.

                    Speaker, for the opportunity to introduce some guests from the great

                    City of Buffalo.  These are my brothers and sister from the

                    Bangladesh community in Buffalo.  They are representing both the

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                    Buffalo Trades Center, which was formally a vacant building for years

                    and is now a trade center where people can come and trade their

                    wares.  And they also have a number of supermarkets in the

                    community, and they also represent the Bangladesh Community

                    Society of Buffalo.  So we have Boron Ali (phonetic), Fazur Raman

                    (phonetic), Mohammed Asman (phonetic), Mohammed Balu

                    (phonetic), Habir Raman (phonetic), Kahleel Ali (phonetic), Answar

                    Hussein (phonetic), Maneek Mosai (phonetic), Sharik Musar

                    (phonetic), Jamen Udon (phonetic), Shamel McMahon (phonetic),

                    Solan Raman (phonetic), Shalel Holander (phonetic), Hassan Saman

                    (phonetic), and Raman Hussein (phonetic).  These are all really great

                    brothers.  I call them that because they are, there's only one race that

                    was created and these are my brothers who originated from the

                    Bangladesh community, are now residents of the great City of Buffalo

                    and we are very pleased to have them.  They've added an enormous

                    value to our community, used to be called a food desert in the 141st.

                    It can't be called that any longer, because seven young men from this

                    particular community have opened a supermarket.  So what they're

                    adding is not just value to their own culture, but they're adding value

                    to the culture of the entire 141st committee -- community.  And I'm so

                    pleased to have them here, and would you please offer them the

                    cordialities of the House, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mrs. Peoples-Stokes, the Speaker and all the members, we

                    welcome you here to the Chamber.  Thank you so much for what you

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                    do.  Food deserts are a disaster for New York and I am so pleased that

                    you are occupying an area and supplying an area with the basic needs.

                    We extend the privileges of the floor to you and hope that you enjoy

                    the proceedings that you see today.  You have a great representative in

                    Mrs. Peoples-Stokes, and thank you for joining us today.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mr. Stern for the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MR. STERN:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  It is really a

                    pleasure to welcome the Walt Whitman High School Gir's Varsity

                    Basketball Team.  They come to the New York State Assembly today,

                    Mr. Speaker, as the Long Island Champions of the Girls Basketball.

                                 (Applause)

                                 It is the first title for that program in the school's

                    history.  They're here today in Albany with their coaches Tina

                    Abadalo (phonetic) Mike Moccia, Ralph Milazzo, Dan Trebour and

                    their Athletic Director Dave Barth.  These outstanding young women

                    are some of the very best of our community.  They bring great pride to

                    their families, to their school district, to our entire community, Mr.

                    Speaker.  They are champions on the basketball court, but they are

                    also champions in the classroom, and they serve as an example for so

                    many of our young people to follow.  We wish them every continued

                    success, and with that, Mr. Speaker, would you kindly offer the Lady

                    Wildcats, the Long Island Champions, to the New York State

                    Assembly and provide them with all the cordialities of the House and

                    the privileges of the floor.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Stern, the Speaker and all the members, we welcome the

                    Wildcats here to the Assembly floor.  We hope that you continue this

                    great success that you've had.  I truly understand what you've done.

                    It's an amazing accomplishment, congratulations.  I hope you enjoy

                    the proceedings that you see here today.  Thank you for joining us.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Ms. Rosenthal for the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MS. ROSENTHAL:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I rise

                    today to introduce one of my great constituents, Susan Coleman from

                    the Upper West Side.  She lives a few blocks from me.  Susan is the

                    outgoing president of the New York City Bar Association having been

                    first elected in May of 2022.  She is in Albany today with Elizabeth

                    Kocienda, the New York City Bar Association's Director of

                    Advocacy.  There are too many projects and programs to call out from

                    Susan's term, but suffice it to say that through her leadership and

                    efforts, the City Bar has spurred improvements to the practice of law

                    and the administration of justice, launched initiatives to address the

                    emergence of artificial intelligence, shown the spotlight of

                    underrepresented groups and individuals in the law profession,

                    reduced the stigma surrounding substance use and mental health

                    issues in the profession, fought for funding for legal services, worked

                    to keep New York the best place for commercial law, improved

                    conditions in homeless shelters, embraced the challenge of how to talk

                    about the most contentious topics of the day, defended judges from

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                    attacks at home and abroad, defended the rule of law in our

                    democracy, launched an effort to increase civic knowledge and

                    engagement, and so much more.

                                 Mr. Speaker, please welcome Susan Coleman and

                    Elizabeth Kocienda to the Chamber, and please give them all the

                    cordialities of the House.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Ms. Rosenthal, the Speaker and all the members, we

                    welcome you, Susan, to the Chamber.  And I know I do not want to

                    get in an oral argument with you, that's for sure, and extend the

                    privileges of the floor and hope you enjoy the proceedings.  Keep

                    doing the great work that you have been doing.  Thank you for joining

                    us today.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mr. Norris for the purposes of an introduction.

                                 MR. NORRIS:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  Is it my

                    distinct pleasure and honor today to have my parents here, Rob and

                    Mary Norris, from Lockport, New York.  My father retired from New

                    York State Electric & Gas, 41 years; my mother, retired from

                    Lockport Memorial Hospital, a nurse in the maternity ward for over

                    30 years.  They have four children altogether.  I'm happy to be the

                    oldest; also, six grandchildren and three great-grandchildren and look

                    how young they look, it's amazing that they have three

                    great-grandchildren.  But I have to tell you just how proud I am to

                    have them as my parents.  They have been there all along the way

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                    through many journeys of my life, and I just want to say to all of you,

                    it is my distinct pleasure to introduce them to you.  The last time they

                    were here was for my swearing in. I said mom and dad, you got to

                    come back and see the operation, and I'm just happy that they're here

                    today.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Norris, the Speaker and all the members, we welcome

                    you to this House and the People's floor here.  You must be very proud

                    of your son and the rest of your children.  Congratulations.  We hope

                    you enjoy the proceedings that you do finally get to see here today,

                    and we welcome you.  Thank you for joining us.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mrs. Peoples-Stokes for an announcement.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Mr. Speaker, would you

                    please call the Ways and Means Committee to the Speaker's

                    Conference Room immediately.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Ways and Means

                    Committee to the Speaker's Conference Room immediately.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Thank you, sir.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Mr. Pirozzolo for an

                    introduction.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker.

                    How are you today?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Fine, thank you.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  Mr. Speaker, if I may on behalf

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                    of myself and Assemblymember Williams, I would like to introduce

                    you to a very wonderful group of loving families.  With me we have

                    Camille and Stefano Filippazzo, their daughter, Rose, and son,

                    Anthony.  Anthony is a remarkable 12-year-old boy living with

                    Williams Syndrome.  We are also joined by another remarkable

                    individual, Gianna Morello, a 26-year-old woman living with

                    Williams Syndrome, and her mother, Gloria.  Williams Syndrome is a

                    rare, complex, multi-system disorder caused by micro deletion along

                    chromosome 7.  Every organ system can and is often affected, with

                    the greatest effect on cardiovascular and pulmonary health.  There is

                    no cure for Williams Syndrome, nor is there a medication to lessen or

                    slow down its often life-threatening effects.  Ten years ago, Camile

                    and her family embarked on a journey for change to raise awareness

                    and initiate medical research for Williams Syndrome.  Over the past

                    ten years they have raised over $1 million for medical research and

                    advancement, and today, there is currently the first-ever study

                    underway at the National Institutes of Health examining Williams

                    Syndrome and sudden cardiac death, an issue which is also pervasive

                    in the community.  We are extremely delighted to have the Filippazzo

                    and Morello Families with us here today as we declare the Month of

                    May Williams Syndrome Awareness Month in the State of New York.

                    I would also like to point out that later in the afternoon we will be

                    asking Governor Kathy Hochul to memorialize this month as Williams

                    Syndrome Month.

                                 So Mr. Speaker, if you would on behalf of myself and

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                    Assemblymember Williams, would you please welcome them to the

                    House and extend cordialities.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Certainly.  On

                    behalf of Mr. Pirozzolo and Ms. Williams, we welcome you very

                    much to the House floor.  We hope that you are taking great pictures,

                    congratulations.  We hope you continue to enjoy your visit here, and

                    the proceedings that we go through.  Thank you for everything that

                    you've done and will do in the future.  Please enjoy.  Thank you for

                    joining us.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Page 11, Calendar No. 37, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A01200, Calendar No.

                    37, Epstein, Burdick, Gallagher, Seawright, Cruz, Hevesi, Gibbs,

                    Cook, Otis, Santabarbara, DeStefano, Colton, McMahon, Reyes,

                    Taylor, Shimsky, Simon, Raga, Kelles, Weprin, Buttenschon, Darling.

                    An act to establish the People with Disabilities Access to Programs

                    Commission.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Read the last

                    section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect immediately.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  The Clerk will

                    record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Mr. Epstein to explain your vote.

                                 MR. EPSTEIN:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I rise to

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                    explain my vote.  People with disabilities are -- have to go to a variety

                    of State agencies to get services.  We hear time and time again from

                    family members about the long process and paperwork that's required

                    for them to fill out just to get access to those services, and then it goes

                    from one agency to another agency, to another agency and are

                    requiring the same paperwork time and time again.  We need to make

                    it easier for New Yorkers who need support to be able to get that

                    support as soon as possible.  This requires all our agencies to come

                    together to figure out how we streamline information and services for

                    people with disabilities so they can access services quicker and better.

                    I encourage my colleagues to vote in favor of this bill.  I want to thank

                    the Speaker for putting it forward.  I vote in the affirmative.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Mr. Epstein in the

                    affirmative.

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Page 20, Calendar No. 163, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A05815-B, Calendar

                    No. 163, Epstein, Colton, Reyes, Taylor, Shimsky, Burdick, Woerner,

                    Santabarbara, Cunningham, De Los Santos, Wallace, Raga, Seawright,

                    Sayegh.  An act to amend the State Finance Law, in relation to

                    participation by individuals with disabilities with respect to State

                    employment and State contracts.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Read the last

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                    section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect January 1st.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  The Clerk will

                    record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Mr. Epstein to explain your vote.

                                 MR. EPSTEIN:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I rise to

                    explain my vote.  So in New York City we have a huge opportunity to

                    hire people with disabilities, but importantly our agencies and our

                    government doesn't track it; the procurement, the hiring and the

                    operation of people with disabilities.  And, you know, with People

                    with Disabilities Awareness Day and trying to ensure more people

                    with disabilities have employment opportunities, we as a State have a

                    opportunity right here to ensure we hire, retain and promote people

                    with disabilities, and we don't even know how we're doing.  The

                    Federal Government did a good job by setting a 7 percent threshold.

                    They were able to exceed that by hiring in their 15 percent people

                    with disabilities, so our attempt to move New York State in the right

                    direction to ensure more people with disabilities have more

                    employment opportunities in New York State.  I'll be voting in favor

                    of this bill and I encourage my colleagues to do the same.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Mr. Epstein in the

                    affirmative.

                                 Ms. Giglio to explain her vote.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker, to explain

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                    my vote.  I would like to thank the sponsor of this legislation.  It is

                    very important for workforce development that we get everybody

                    included and everybody in the workforce and this is leading us in that

                    direction.  And self-direction is very important, too, for people with

                    unique abilities and employers recognizing people with unique

                    abilities is truly important in the State of New York.  So I want to

                    thank the sponsor and I will be voting in the affirmative.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Ms. Giglio in the

                    affirmative.

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Page 23, Calendar No. 188, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A06541, Calendar No.

                    188, Kelles, Lupardo, Jacobson, Santabarbara, Meeks, Otis, Epstein,

                    Weprin, Simon, Seawright, Buttenschon, Steck, Davilla, Reyes,

                    Colton, Angelino.  An act to amend the Civil Rights Law, in relation

                    to waiving the State's sovereign immunity to claims under the

                    Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, the Fair Labor Standards Act

                    of 1938, the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, and the

                    Family and Medical Leave Act.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Read the last

                    section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect immediately.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  The Clerk will

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                    record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Ms. Kelles to explain your vote.

                                 MS. KELLES:  Thank you.  So just simply put, this --

                    this bill holds us accountable to protecting people with disabilities

                    based off of Federal laws.  It removes our State immunity.  There are

                    several court cases at Federal levels, Supreme Court, that concluded

                    that states need to waive their sovereign unity in order to hold us

                    accountable.  Very straightforward, very simple.  I would note, and

                    this is important, I want to read this:  New York was one of 13 states

                    that signed on to Minnesota's Amicus Curiae back in 2001 in support

                    of the plaintiff's in Board of Trustees of the University of Alabama v.

                    Garrett.  The Amicus Brief committed to the idea that state

                    governments should be held to same the compliant standards as other

                    employers regarding the ADA.  And I think that that's really valuable

                    to note because we actually put this bill in in 2001 when we signed on

                    as a State.  And I want to thank my colleagues because for 23 years

                    we have passed this bill in the Assembly.  And I think that that is

                    important and we will continue to do this until it becomes law.  And I

                    would note there are three states that have already passed it in 2001

                    and 2004; Minnesota, North Carolina, Illinois, and these states have

                    recorded no increases in costs, or, two, or litigation against the state

                    because of such laws.  So we really don't have a justification not to

                    move this forward and hold ourselves accountable and obviously

                    stand in support and I hope to see this move forward across both

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                    Houses and to the Governor.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Ms. Kelles in the

                    affirmative.

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Page 6, Rules Report No. 65, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Senate No. S03108-A, Rules Report

                    No. 65, Senator Mannion.  An act to amend the Mental Hygiene Law,

                    in relation to the duties of the Independent Developmental Disability

                    Ombudsman Program.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Read the last

                    section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect on the 180th

                    day.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  The Clerk will

                    record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Page 6, Rules Report No. 71, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A06397-A, Rules

                    Report No. 71, Burdick, Levenberg, Sayegh, Seawright, Dickens,

                    Hevesi, González-Rojas.  An act in relation to establishing the task

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                    force to promote the employment of people with disabilities.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  Read the last

                    section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect immediately.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  The Clerk will

                    record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Mr. Burdick to explain your vote.

                                 MR. BURDICK:  Thank you for the opportunity to

                    explain my vote.  People with disabilities have an unemployment rate

                    well above the national average, and that's true here in New York, as

                    well; yet, we know that many not only wish to work but are very much

                    able to work.  And we need to look at their abilities rather than their

                    disabilities.  We need to do our upmost to extend opportunities to

                    work.  As Chair of the Assembly Subcommittee on Employment

                    Opportunities for People with Disabilities and with the support of my

                    colleagues, we have been working assiduously to move ahead with

                    these goals.  This bill would create a task force of representatives from

                    several State agencies to promote competitive integrated employment

                    for people with disabilities in State and local government.  The bill

                    codifies into statute efforts which the State is making, and we are

                    hopeful that this will move the needle on increasing employment for

                    people with disabilities across the board.  I wish to thank the Speaker

                    for allowing this bill to move ahead, and urge my colleagues to vote in

                    favor.  I vote in the affirmative.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Burdick in the

                    affirmative.

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Page 7, Rules Report No. 80, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A09553-A, Rules

                    Report No. 80, Seawright, Zinerman.  An act establishing the

                    "Blue-Ribbon Commission of the Future of New York State's Service

                    Delivery System for Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental

                    Disabilities Act"; and providing for the repeal of such provisions upon

                    expiration thereof.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Read the last section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect immediately.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  The Clerk will record

                    the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Ms. Seawright on -- to explain her vote.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I rise

                    to explain my vote and as Chair of the People with Disabilities

                    Committee, I rise to speak on the significance of Legislative Disability

                    Awareness Day.  It's been an Assembly tradition for 44 years to

                    recognize people with disabilities, their families and advocates as they

                    realize the goals of integration, independence, empowerment and

                    equality in our communities and society at-large.  Nearly one-quarter

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                    of all adult New Yorkers, about 3.9 million people, live with a

                    disability.  We need the voices and contributions of these New

                    Yorkers on the vital issues not only affecting their livelihoods, but the

                    well-being of our entire State.

                                 Today, it's an honor on Disability Awareness Day

                    that we take up two resolutions and this package of bills that will both

                    improve the lives and ensure the State is doing its part to achieve

                    equity for people with disabilities.  In addition to the resolution

                    recognizing today as Legislative Disability Awareness Day, we're

                    taking up a resolution that would recognize June 16th, 2024 as

                    Neurodiversity Pride Day.  The resolution recognizes the

                    neurodiversity flag, selected by the Autism Spectrum Disorders

                    Advisory Board after they hosted a contest featuring over 40 flag

                    designs.  The design that was won was created by Joshua Mirsky, a

                    self-advocate who joins us along with his mother in the Chamber

                    today.  Additionally, this legislation to establish a Blue Ribbon

                    Commission to make recommendations for systemic reforms to the

                    developmental disability services system is much needed.  By passing

                    these bills and resolutions, we continue to fulfill the Assembly's duty

                    to respond to issues impacting the disability community established by

                    the first Assembly Disabilities Day 44 years ago.  I wish to thank

                    Speaker Heastie for his leadership, members of the Committee, along

                    with Elizabeth McCormick, Janice Neaves, and our Committee Clerk,

                    Courtney Ferrissey.  I'm honored and pleased to carry this tradition

                    forward.  Thank you.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Burdick to

                    explain his vote.

                                 MR. BURDICK:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for the

                    opportunity to explain my vote.  I first want to thank the sponsor of

                    this bill for her bringing this forward and for her leadership as Chair of

                    the Committee of People with Disabilities.  We have made great

                    strides and so pleased to see this package of bills going forward.  We

                    have a lot more work to do, but we're making that headway and again,

                    I wish to thank the Speaker for moving ahead with this package of

                    bills that should improve the lives of people with disabilities across

                    the State of New York.  Thank you so much.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Burdick in the

                    affirmative.

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 (Applause)

                                 Mrs. Peoples-Stokes -- thank you.

                                 Mrs. Peoples-Stokes.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Mr. Speaker, apologies

                    for interrupting applause for that wonderful piece of legislation that

                    we just passed, but I do want to ask if you would call the Consumers

                    Committee to the Speaker's Conference Room.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Consumers

                    Committee, Speaker's Conference Room immediately.

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                                 Page 25, Calendar No. 309, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A05873, Calendar No.

                    309, Lavine, McDonald, Colton, K. Brown, Braunstein, Glick, Aubry,

                    Simon, Cruz, Fahy.  An act to amend the Civil Practice Law and Rules

                    and the Executive Law, in relation to extreme risk protection orders.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On a motion by Mr.

                    Lavine, the Senate bill is before the House.  The Senate bill is

                    advanced.

                                 An explanation, Mr. Lavine, is requested.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Certainly.  Can I just ask who asked

                    for the explanation?  Oh, Mr. Goodell; all right, very, very good, thank

                    you.

                                 Current law requires judges to notify the Division of

                    State Police, law enforcement agencies with appropriate jurisdiction,

                    applicable licensing officers and the Division of Criminal Justice

                    Services of the issuance, the amendment or revocation of a temporary

                    and/or final extreme risk protection order.  There is, however, no

                    requirement that judges provide notice of these orders to the Statewide

                    computerized registry.  The Statewide computerized registry is a

                    centralized database of all court orders of protection and outstanding

                    warrants that is accessible by State and local law enforcement, the

                    Division of Criminal Justice Services, the Office of Court

                    Administration and the Office for the Prevention of Domestic

                    Violence.  This bill modernizes the State's existing ERPO law by

                    requiring that a judge notify the Statewide computerized registry of

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                    the issuance, amendment and revocation of both temporary and final

                    ERPOs.  By requiring courts to perform this added procedure, law

                    enforcement and relevant authorities can more readily access these

                    critical public safety records to ensure compliance with court orders

                    across and throughout our State.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Goodell.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Thank you, sir.  Would the sponsor

                    yield?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Lavine, will you

                    yield?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Of course.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Sponsor yields.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Thank you, Mr. Lavine, and thank

                    you for the explanation.  Just so that we're all clear, I'm looking at

                    page 1, line 9, this registry would apply to temporary extreme risk

                    protection orders, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  And temporary extreme risk orders

                    of protection are issued ex parte, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  And so -- and they're issued on a

                    very low, evidentiary burden, right, of probable cause?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, I'm not so sure I would agree

                    that probable cause is a low evidentiary standard, but I can appreciate

                    your perspective.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, a final order, an extreme risk

                    order of protection you have to show clear and convincing evidence,

                    but for temporary it's only probable cause, it's issued ex parte, no

                    defense, the defendant is not even there, and this bill would put that on

                    a centralized State registry?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, if anyone can figure out a way

                    to get the respondent's present for an ex parte orders, that would be

                    something I would be very pleased to take a look at, but I've seen your

                    point.  There is a difference between the evidentiary standards at the

                    initiation of this process and at the factfinding point of this progress.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, this bill --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I mean process, excuse me.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, this bill requires that a

                    temporary order of protection, as well as final, be reported to the

                    Statewide registry within 24 hours, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  And that includes revocations, as

                    well.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  So the revocation would also have

                    to be reported in 24 hours?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  So I just want to respond to my

                    colleague.  This bill does not address whatever time factors you are

                    mentioning.  This bill simply adds one sentence to two or three

                    applicable portions of our statutory law saying that the judges are

                    supposed to report this to the Statewide registry.  I think whatever

                    issue you may have, you may have with previous -- previously enacted

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                    legislation, but this doesn't address that.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Well, this bill which amends the

                    previously enacted legislation would now require that the Statewide

                    registry receive notice of any temporary extreme risk order of

                    protection, and I'm looking at line 10, no later than the next business

                    day.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  That's part of the law.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  And so that's what this would do,

                    right, it would require --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  That's -- no, no.  That's the existing

                    law.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Well, the existing law doesn't

                    require notice to any Statewide registry because there isn't one, right?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, it will and it'll be controlled by

                    the same time constraints as are specified in detail in the underlying

                    law.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Right.  And this bill creates a

                    Statewide registry that doesn't exist under current law?

                                 (Pause)

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Maybe I'm not understanding you,

                    but are you saying this creates a Statewide registry?

                                 MR. GOODELL:  No.  To be clear, what this bill

                    does, and you can correct me if I'm mistaken, but what this bill does is

                    require a temporary extreme risk protection order to be reported to a

                    Statewide computerized registry --

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                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- within one business day.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I would -- I would tend to agree with

                    that, yes.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, the standard for taking it off

                    is not one business day, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I missed the last, like, six or seven

                    words you said.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  It is a problem, shh.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  But the current law, while this law

                    would require that be reported within one business day to the registry,

                    neither the current law nor this law requires it to be removed within

                    one business day if it's terminated, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  The underlying statute says it has to

                    be removed promptly.  That's -- that's what we passed and was

                    enacted.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, this bill would also require

                    that when a temporary order of protection is reported that it also be

                    reported with demographic information, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  It would be included within the

                    demographic data.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, earlier this year we passed

                    and the Governor signed into law a bill that required that every State

                    agency collecting demographic information also collect information

                    on a person's sexual identity, gender expression, or gender ID, sexual

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                    orientation, gender ID or expression.  So am I correct then that the

                    State Police, as part of the Statewide registry, would not only require

                    -- that this bill would not only require the reporting of the individual's

                    name, their address, and their sexual orientation, gender identity and

                    gender expression; is that correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  The only thing this bill does is say

                    that judges who issue or modify ERPOs are to report that to the

                    Statewide registry.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Correct.  And it's part of a

                    provision that also requires demographic data, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I -- I believe that's correct, but that's

                    not the subject matter of what we're -- what's at issue here.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Well, without this bill there would

                    not be that demographic data reported to a Statewide registry, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Are you able to -- because I know

                    you're a good lawyer, so can you phrase that a little more directly?

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Sure.  So I'm looking at page 1,

                    line 16, the court shall report demographic data as required by the

                    State Police and by law, we require every State agency, which would

                    include the State Police, to require on any demographic data that the

                    demographic data identify a person's sexual orientation, gender ID or

                    expression.  So this bill would require a Statewide database with the

                    individual's name, address, sexual orientation, gender ID, and gender

                    expression, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I'm not so sure about that.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  Oh, okay.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  But you have read accurately the

                    language that's in the existing statute.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Now, earlier we also passed and

                    the Governor signed a requirement that whenever we collect

                    demographic data we separately list all 24 named countries in Asia

                    and the Pacific.  So in addition to their name, address, sexual

                    orientation, gender identity, we also have to list whether they came

                    from any one of those 24 countries, right?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  That has nothing to do with this

                    particular piece of proposed legislation that we're -- we're considering.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  But I just want everyone to know

                    that we're establishing a Statewide database reporting claims that they

                    might not be safe based on probable cause without the defendant even

                    having the opportunity to appear and defend themselves, and we're

                    reporting on that Statewide database their sexual orientation, gender

                    identity, and which of one of 24 Asian countries they come from,

                    right?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, that's --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I mean this is not taken out of

                    isolation.  We have to consider the full impact.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  That is your editorial view and I

                    support your right to state it.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  And am I correct that when we

                    require demographic data to be collected by the State Police we, by

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                    law in this Chamber, require them to collect that information, correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  And I'd be happy to discuss that with

                    you further if that was germane or relevant or apropos to this

                    particular bill.  It is not.  That's --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Well, this bill -- this bill does

                    require all that demographic data, requires the State Police to report

                    demographic data, right?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  This bill simply requires judges to

                    report when they have issued or modified ERPOs, simple as that.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Uh-huh.  And then it goes on to

                    say, as I mentioned before, including demographic data.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I believe you are reading from

                    existing law.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I am indeed.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  But it is -- and that's good lawyering,

                    too, but --

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Thanks.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  But I don't think that has anything --

                    with all due respect, that has nothing to do what this bill requires, or

                    would require.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I see.  Now, as you know a

                    extreme risk order of protection law automatically expires after

                    one year.  Will this Statewide registry automatically remove that

                    person's name, address, sexual orientation and which country they

                    came from within one year?  Will that automatically be deleted?

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                                 MR. LAVINE:  I don't know about your reference to

                    whatever country they came from, but I believe that that's -- I believe

                    that that's the case, but that's not the subject of this bill.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  But my question is will that

                    information, whatever that information is, be automatically deleted at

                    the end of one year?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I believe that that's the case, but I

                    don't -- but that's not the subject of -- of this bill and I wouldn't want

                    anyone in future days or years to look at whatever I'm saying and

                    interpret that as complete agreement with you.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I see.  Who would have access to

                    the Statewide database?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  That would be law enforcement,

                    other judges, appropriate law enforcement agencies.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Is there any language in this statute

                    or any existing statute that makes that information generally not

                    public?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I'm not 100 percent sure.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I see.  Okay.  Again, Mr. Lavine, I

                    always appreciate your comments, sir.

                                 On the bill.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the bill, Mr.

                    Goodell.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  You know, a few years back we

                    passed this concept of a temporary extreme risk protection order, and

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                    there was considerable opposition on the temporary extreme risk

                    protection order because it was issued without the defendant even

                    being there.  It was a temporary order that was issued by a judge based

                    on probable cause, which means more likely than not, it's a very low

                    standard.  And it was issued without notice to the defendant, no

                    opportunity to be heard.  The due process criteria for issuing a

                    temporary extreme risk order of protection is virtually zero.  Ex parte

                    application, very low standard to prove, no opportunity to defend

                    yourself.  And this bill takes that one step further and says even

                    though that order of protection was issued without the defendant even

                    having an opportunity to be heard, without any hearing on a low

                    standard, we're going to put it on a Statewide database.  Now my

                    feelings about a Statewide database once a final order is issued is very

                    different because a final order is only issued after a hearing, after an

                    opportunity for the defendant to appear, after the defendant can come

                    in with an attorney, and it requires clear and convincing evidence, that

                    is an entirely different situation.  So we're asked here today to create a

                    Statewide database documenting a person's name, address, sexual

                    orientation, gender ID, gender expression and which one of any 24

                    Asian countries they might come from without them even having an

                    opportunity to be heard or defend themselves.  That, my friends, is

                    outrageous and for that reason I cannot support it.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Ms. Giglio.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Thank you Mr. Speaker.  Will the

                    sponsor yield?

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Lavine, will you

                    yield?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Of course.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Thank you, Mr. Lavine.  So can you

                    please explain the process for obtaining the TERPO, and then also the

                    process for explaining the ERPO.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, I'm going to suggest that a

                    quick Google of nycourts.gov will provide those procedural steps, and

                    I would also like to mention that with respect to any concerns about

                    this procedure violating anyone's constitutional rights, this is language

                    from the courts.  This procedure provides ample procedural safeguards

                    against improper depravation of an individual's Second Amendment

                    right to keep and bear arms and thus does not violate due process.

                    Now, there have been a couple of cases in lower courts throughout the

                    State that kind of differ, but as recently as March, the Appellate

                    Division of the Second Department has ruled that these procedures

                    more than pass constitutional muster.  So I would hope and expect

                    that anyone who has got any great concern about Americans losing

                    their constitutional rights --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  I'm not questioning that, what I'm

                    questioning is the process.  Because the temporary emergency risk

                    protection order is issued, and we've expanded the list as to who can

                    request that the police go to someone's house, take their guns and then

                    they get a -- a hearing within a few days, essentially five to ten days.

                    The Supreme Court after -- after a TERPO --

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                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  -- is issued, and I'm happy to say that

                    after talking about this on the floor for a very long time that the

                    Attorney General is now representing the State Police in these TERPO

                    hearings, so that is a good thing because our State Police --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I agree with -- I agree with you

                    completely.

                                 MS. GIGLIO: -- our State Police were on the stand

                    as, really defenseless without an attorney while the people who had

                    their guns taken away had defense attorneys and the State Police are

                    not law, they're not attorneys, they don't know how to answer those

                    questions.  So the TERPOs were issued by the police, the police go,

                    they remove any weapons that a household may have, and within three

                    to five days they go before the Supreme Court judge who determines

                    whether or not a hearing is necessary and a trial is necessary, or

                    whether or not it should be dismissed, that it's unfounded; is that

                    correct?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.  And I'd also like to say,

                    because for our colleagues in Suffolk County -- I mean Nassau County

                    but right next to Suffolk County, that the law enforcement in Suffolk

                    County has taken this responsibility extraordinarily seriously and --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Yes, yes.  We're very lucky to have

                    the DA that we have and that we're not taking our one town attorney

                    out of our villages and our townships to go to these TERPO and

                    ERPO hearings that the Suffolk County District Attorneys' Office is

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                    representing law enforcement when that law enforcement officer has

                    to go to court and testify as to how the TERPO was attained and what

                    the --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  And I agree with you completely and

                    also, so that the record is accurate, the law enforcement in Suffolk

                    County was actively involved as well prior to the new District

                    Attorney taking office.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Yes.  So my question for you is, do

                    you know how many TERPOs, let's say 2023, how many TERPOs

                    have been warranted and brought into the courts, and how many

                    ERPOs have actually been issued?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  It's thousands, and I do believe --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, I know TERPOs are thousands,

                    but I don't believe ERPOs are.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I don't offhand remember the

                    separate number of TERPOs and ERPOs, but I do know that Suffolk

                    County is in the lead I believe Statewide.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Right.  So this State database, no

                    information will go into the State database, because I know the police

                    do the searches when they get a TERPO to find out if there's any order

                    of protections or if there's any warrants or if there's anything of that

                    nature before they actually appear on the doorstep of the house where

                    the health official, the school official, the family members or - there's

                    one more - had filed a complaint against this person.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  And that's very wise law enforcement

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                    policy.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  So the TERPOs will not be reported to

                    the system.  It's only after a Supreme Court judge says that the

                    emergency risk protection order is in place and then they go to a trial,

                    they go to a hearing and if the judge decides that their weapons should

                    be taken away, is that the time that this goes on the State registry?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  May I have one moment?

                                 (Pause)

                                 I believe temporary restraining orders also go on the

                    registry.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, then I have to agree with my

                    colleague in saying that if it's an accusation and there hasn't been an

                    actual trial and a judge hasn't found that their weapons should be

                    taken away, then why would we want to put that on a State registry?

                    And can somebody use that for a TERPO?  Can a family member?

                    Can somebody use that TERPO in order to get a restraining order, or

                    an order of protection?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  This -- this bill has nothing to do

                    with that particular proposition, but I would like to just read the

                    language, which is relevant to your question, from a court decision.

                    We do this because the government protecting the people --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Understood.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  -- of the State - I would expect you

                    would understand, because the government has compelling and

                    pressing interests in ensuring the safety of the public by quickly

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                    removing firearms from those who may be unfit to possess them, and

                    that's a good thing.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, that's the -- that's the key word,

                    right there, "who may."

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  So until they are found by a court and

                    a judge, a Supreme Court judge to say, okay, we think that you may

                    not have, you know, you may not have the rights to have these

                    firearms in your home, you know, it's not until the judge decides after

                    the emergency risk protection order hearing when the defendant is

                    there and law enforcement is there to say and the person that filed the

                    TERPO is there to say why they felt that this person could possibly be

                    a threat and why the firearms should be removed.  So after that

                    hearing, if the judge determines that the weapons or the firearms

                    should be taken away, then that is something that I could see should

                    go on to a registry, but not a TERPO, which is the word "may."

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, the word "may" is always

                    operative, but I don't think you're suggesting that we should put law

                    enforcement personnel at risk when we do not list names of people

                    who have had even temporarily firearms removed from their homes,

                    and I would also --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Have you reached out -- have you

                    reached out to New York State Police investigators or have you

                    reached out to any of the people that are actually getting these

                    warrants that are -- they're showing up at their doorsteps saying we

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                    have this complaint and you have to appear in court.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  So I -- I would simply suggest this to

                    you, that even though I have not personally reached -- reached out to

                    the folks who you just listed, I did write the first extreme risk

                    protection bill, and I did that after a lengthy, and to put it mildly,

                    heartfelt conversation, yes, indeed, with Mark Barden whose son --

                    whose son --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Listen, I have no --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  -- Daniel lost his life, along with

                    many others --

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Yes, I have --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  May I -- may I speak?

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, you answered the question and

                    I'm limited on time so --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Well, I don't know if I answered the

                    question.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, do you believe that a person is

                    innocent until proven guilty?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I can stick my political neck out and

                    say yes, I believe that.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Okay.  So are they guilty when a

                    TERPO is issued, or are they found guilty after it's gone to a Supreme

                    Court judge and an ERPO is issued?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  It's not a matter of guilt.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, I'm asking you, are they guilty

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                    of what the school official, the health professional, the family

                    member, the --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  I think -- I think you may by

                    conflating standards of proof for criminal trials with standards for

                    issuance of TERPOs and ERPOs.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  No, I'm just saying if I'm, you know,

                    not happy with my ex-husband and I can say, hey police, come here.

                    You know what?  I know he has guns in his house and I'm afraid, so

                    can you come and get his guns and I'll fill out the TERPO, and then

                    the husband or the -- if they're separated has to show up in court and

                    say listen, I have permits, or I don't have any, but at least they get to

                    be heard.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  And then the judge decides whether or

                    not it goes to a full emergency risk protection order hearing within

                    three to five days of the TERPO being issued --

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  -- to decide whether or not they

                    should get their firearms back, or if they should be removed

                    permanently, and if they should be removed permanently, if the judge

                    decides, and there's very few cases that I'm told that that actually

                    happens, but if that judge were to decide that those firearms be taken

                    away permanently from that individual, I believe that that's the time

                    that they should go on to the State registry, not until they're proven

                    that they shouldn't bear arms.

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                                 MR. LAVINE:  And I -- I respect that opinion, but

                    for the record, what we're talking about here, what you and I are

                    talking about, has nothing to do with criminal guilt.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Well, it has to do with putting

                    somebody's name, address and all their information on to a registry

                    when a judge may decide three to five days later that the --  it was not

                    founded, that the complaint was not founded, that it's a matter that's

                    being dealt with in family court.  That the defendant who comes and

                    says, listen, we're in family court, she's threatened, she tried to get an

                    order of protection, she tried to do this, he tried to get an order of

                    protection, he tried do this, and it wasn't issued, the order of

                    protection.  So you can just tie up the courts, and I'm told that a lot of

                    these TERPO cases do bog down the courts when there are serious

                    matters that need to go before Supreme Court judges.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  All of our cases can be interpreted as

                    bogging down the courts, but in this balancing act that we play in

                    attempting to protect people, like the Barden family from having to

                    bury their children, we will weigh those equities in favor of protecting

                    life.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Listen, there's a lot of incidents that

                    happened -- that happened throughout this State where, you know

                    what?  If the teacher says listen, I think that this person may be a

                    threat, we should issue a TERPO immediately, and then that day or

                    the next day, the police go and say we are -- we are aware that you

                    have firearms in the house and we're here to take them, hand them

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                    over, and they have to hand them over that day.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  And then three to five days later they

                    get a hearing.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Yes.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  So I believe that the way the law is

                    written with the TERPO and ERPO, if someone is found to be an

                    extreme risk that they should be put on a registry so that no more

                    firearms are sold to them, that there's no, you know, NICS in the

                    system between, you know, the -- the courts.  I get it.  If the judge

                    decides that this person is an extreme risk and they should not have

                    firearms, but I don't believe --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Ms. -- Ms. Giglio,

                    why don't you go on the bill if you're not asking a question.  I

                    understand you want to speak.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  I -- I just want to be clear that is it -- is

                    it the case when a TERPO is issued that law enforcement goes that

                    day and goes and retrieves the firearms?

                                 MR. LAVINE:  As soon as it's practicable.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Okay.  So thank you very much, Mr.

                    Lavine.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  Thank you.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  Mr.

                    Speaker, you know, we have a Constitution in the United States of

                    America and that's the right to bear arms.  And if somebody files a

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                    complaint against me and says, you know, I'm not liking Jodi so much

                    today and I want the police to go to her house and get her firearms,

                    they can come and I will gladly hand them over; however, I do not

                    want my name on a registry to where somebody has to -- where

                    somebody will pull me up in the system the next time I go to buy

                    another firearm and do a NICS check and sees that I have a TERPO,

                    which is not a -- it's not something that a judge decided that I shouldn't

                    have my firearms, I got my firearms back after the Supreme Court

                    because the judge determined that I was not an extreme risk.  And

                    that's what I'm talking about, about the process.  And that you are

                    innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, with a Supreme Court

                    judge, and very few TERPOs turn into ERPOs.  So we can have a

                    database with a million TERPOs, and 2 percent of those could result

                    in ERPOs, and that's a good thing and those people should be put on a

                    registry.  But when it comes to a complaint, I believe that you're

                    innocent until proven guilty and for that reason, I will have to be

                    voting in the negative.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Thank you.

                                 Read the last section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect on the 120th

                    day.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  A party vote has

                    been requested.

                                 Mr. Goodell.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  Thank you, sir.  The Republican

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                    Conference is generally opposed.  Those who support it should

                    certainly vote yes here on the floor.  Thank you, sir.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mrs. Peoples-Stokes.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  Thank you, Mr.

                    Speaker.  The Democratic Conference is going to be in favor of this

                    piece of legislation.  There may be a few that would desire to be an

                    exception, and should feel free to cast their vote at their seats.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Thank you, both.

                                 The Clerk will record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Mr. Fall.

                                 MR. FALL:  Mr. Speaker, can you please call the

                    Higher Education Committee to the Speaker's Conference Room?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Higher Ed, Speaker's

                    Conference Room immediately, please.

                                 Page 30, Calendar 403, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly No. A03580-A, Calendar

                    No. 403, Hevesi, Darling, Shimsky, Seawright, Reyes.  An act to

                    amend the Social Services Law, in relation to the adoption subsidies

                    provided for disabled or hard to place children.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Hevesi, a

                    explanation has been requested sir.

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                                 MR. HEVESI:  Absolutely.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                    This bill will ensure that in New York State the adoption subsidies is

                    linked to each adopted child and --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  One minute, Mr.

                    Hevesi.  Gentlemen in the corners, shh.  Gentlemen in the corners.

                                 Proceed.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Thank you, sir.  This bill will ensure

                    that in New York State the adoption subsidy is linked to each adopted

                    child, and permit the subsidy to be transferred if an alternate adult

                    receives a final order of custody or guardianship for the child.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Ms. Walsh.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  Will the

                    sponsor yield?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  It would be my pleasure, Ms. Walsh;

                    how are you?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Hevesi yields.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Thank you.  So it's my understanding

                    that this subsidy is provided to adoptive parents who have a disabled

                    or hard to place child; is that correct?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  That is correct, but 97 or 98 percent

                    of these subsidies are given to parents who adopt out of foster care, so

                    that -- hope that helps guide the discussion.

                                 MS. WALSH:  It does.  What's the source of the

                    money?  My understanding was that the subsidy itself comes through

                    Federal funding, Title 4E funding from the Federal Government; is

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                    that correct?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  You are correct; yes, that's correct.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Okay, okay.  So it sounded --  it

                    seemed to me as though part of the -- well, let me ask you, what was

                    the -- what's the reason for this piece of legislation?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  There were two primary concerns we

                    had.  The first one is what we're trying to address it's what's called

                    broken adoptions, that's when a young person is adopted out of foster

                    care, the adoptive parent takes the kid in, but then doesn't care for the

                    kid.  So we are, in New York State I don't believe in the business of

                    paying people for not providing the service, and in this case not taking

                    care of the kid.  And then the second reason - that's the first - the

                    second reason is we would like the subsidy to follow the child and

                    actually go with the child to where the kid is being taken care of and

                    what we're desperately trying to avoid is paying for multiple services.

                    So right now my understanding is at least in New York City alone,

                    ACS has 147 kids who their adoptive parents receive the subsidy, but

                    they're back in foster care, or they're in a homeless shelter, or they're

                    on the street, and we just keep paying the subsidy to the adoptive

                    parent because currently there's no mechanism for the local social

                    service district to say, no, no, you guys are providing service, we need

                    to terminate this subsidy.

                                 MS. WALSH:  And I appreciate how you structured

                    it in those two parts, and that's kind of how I'd like to focus my

                    questions.  The first reason that you gave where the adoptive parents

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                    take the money, take the subsidy, but aren't really providing the -- the

                    shelter, the food, the things that the -- that the young person needs, I

                    can completely get behind the idea that we want to audit that, we want

                    to make sure that -- that those subsidies are being properly utilized

                    and that the children are actually being provided with what they need.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  We agree.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Absolutely agree.  It's the second

                    piece that I'd like to kind of get at.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Okay.

                                 MS. WALSH:  It's the idea of the subsidy following

                    that young person.  So I'm looking at the bill on page 3, starting --

                    section C-4 around line 21 --

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Okay.

                                 MS. WALSH:  It talks about, let's see, if the social

                    services official terminates the adoption assistance provided to

                    adoptive parents pursuant to paragraph C-2 of this subdivision after

                    the 18th birthday and before the 21st birthday of the adoptive child,

                    and no person other than the adoptive parents has legal custody or

                    guardianship of the child, the social services official shall make --

                    shall make payments to the child; one, through direct payments to the

                    child if the social services official determines the child demonstrates

                    the ability to manage such direct payments, or to a representative

                    payee.  So starting with the second part first, who would be an

                    example of a representative payee for that child?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Probably a non-profit in the area, but

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                    let me just break down what you just mentioned.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Please, thank you.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  And you're right, so -- so right now, if

                    -- if the child is under 18, they will not ever have access to the

                    subsidy.  Period.  If they are above 18, the social service district gets

                    to make a determination, is that kid responsible, can we give the

                    money to that child and will that child pay for their housing?  If they

                    say yes, they can give the money to the child; however, if they think

                    that the child is not responsible, remember you're talking about a kid

                    18 to 21, who knows, we don't trust what they do with their money,

                    we can -- we, meaning social service district, can give it to what's

                    called a payee, a representative payee which is usually in my

                    experience a not-for-profit, who will make sure the payment for the

                    rent is on time.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Okay.  Okay.  The payment for the

                    rent is on time.  Okay.  So let's -- so let's say that you've got a 19-year

                    old, so still within that --

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Yeah.

                                 MS. WALSH:  -- under 21 age group, and the

                    21-year-old finds out, hey, if I leave these adoptive parents, I can run

                    off with my boyfriend and we can set up another place together and

                    this money is going to follow me and I could use that money; what

                    happens then?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  That's a great question.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Okay.

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                                 MR. HEVESI:  So -- so you're right, the following

                    child could be misleading in that case, because the kid's not able to do

                    that, and let me tell you why.  So for the money to actually stay with

                    the child, that means that the court will have to decide that they will

                    have to appoint a guardian, which means there will have to be a

                    hearing, that the birth parents are going to come and testify and the

                    court is going to have to make a determination that the future guardian

                    is -- is responsible.  So there is no way for a kid to say, hey, I'm giving

                    this to my boyfriend, it has to be vetted through the court system.

                                 MS. WALSH:  And is that contained within this

                    legislation, and can you just point to me where that is?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  I will check the line for you --

                                 MS. WALSH:  I would appreciate that, because I

                    didn't have a chance to see that.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  -- my guys are going to look, but

                    absolutely in there and, by the way, I wouldn't write legislation that

                    allows a kid to leave appropriate care setting to go keep this money

                    and live in an inappropriate setting.  So we're going to look for the

                    line.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Well, while you're doing that.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Yeah, please.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Let me just say that I didn't think of

                    this on my own.  That there is a memo of opposition to the legislation

                    from the New York Public Welfare Association, and they raised that

                    as a possible unintended consequence.

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                                 MR. HEVESI:  I'm sorry, say the last sentence again.

                                 MS. WALSH:  The Public Welfare Association.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Yeah, I --

                                 MS. WALSH:  Raised it as a point in their opposition

                    memo, raising that as a concern that that would be a potential

                    unintended consequence of the legislation, that's why I ask.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  No, and I completely understand that.

                    Can I talk about that memo for a minute, because I take umbrage, and

                    not with you, at all.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Oh, good.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  But number one, the -- yeah, go

                    ahead.  Here we go.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Don't kill the messenger.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  That memo was never furnished to

                    my office or the Majority.  When we got it, I'm stunned, I was using

                    the word befuddled or shocked, or chagrinned, I mean, it's

                    unbelievable.  The idea that we would, and let me just use the quote,

                    "encourage vulnerable impressionable children to run away from their

                    adoptive homes," that's an outrageous idea and in no way does the

                    subsidy do that because the subsidy doesn't go to kids under 18, it only

                    goes to kids18 to 21 if they're responsible, and if they're not

                    responsible, then we get a outside payee.  And the other thing that that

                    memo said, children would be exploited by inappropriate individual

                    seeking to receive the subsidy.  They have to go to a court, they have

                    to have a hearing.  And I believe the answer to --

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                                 MS. WALSH:  Do you have that line?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  The line is in existing Social Services

                    law, so I'll provide it for you, but it's not in this bill.  But the social

                    service district is going to have to make sure that the person who gets

                    the subsidy can only be a guardian who has been vetted by the court,

                    so there's no running off with your boyfriend and the boyfriend gets

                    the money, that's just not true.  And to be perfectly honest with you,

                    the memo from NYPWA either indicated to me that one, they don't

                    understand the law, or they do and they wrote some really just

                    ingenious things in that memo.  So I would ask you to respectfully

                    disregard it.  I would never put forth a bill that's going to allow a kid

                    to take State money and go use it for other purposes than what is

                    intended.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Well, to your point, and it's -- it

                    appears like it's not even State money, it's appears that it's Federal

                    money, because it's coming through that Title 4E funding.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  It's both.

                                 MS. WALSH:  It is both?

                                 MR. HEVESI:  It's both.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Because the concern is, and I called

                    them before our debate today --

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Yeah.

                                 MS. WALSH:  -- to kind of clarify this issue and their

                    concern specifically is that if that scenario did play out, that they can

                    potentially, the 19-year old, to use that example, could be collecting

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                    that subsidy or if they didn't collect the subsidy but they were out

                    living on their own with somebody else, but then the local Department

                    of Social Services would have to foot the bill to house, benefits, and

                    things like that, so...

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Oh, no.  I think they're just

                    misreading the law.  So no, we would not set up that circumstance at

                    all.  As a matter of fact, there are safeguards to make sure it doesn't

                    happen.  We're either giving it to an 18 through 21-year-old who has

                    been deemed responsible by the social service district, or it's going to

                    somebody else because we don't trust the kid is going to make the

                    payments on time.

                                 MS. WALSH:  So just to clarify again, and I

                    appreciate your answers.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Of course.

                                 MS. WALSH:  What you're saying is that that

                    scenario that we've been talking about, that is all going to be handled

                    within the court system, there will be a judge that will evaluate the

                    maturity, the level of responsibleness of this --

                                 MR. HEVESI:  I don't want to confuse, so I get your

                    question, I don't want to confuse.  The social services district will

                    make the judgment on whether the child is responsible.  Separate

                    issue, the court will make the judgment on whether a respected

                    guardian is responsible.  So you are being vetted by government on

                    both scenarios, for the guardian and for the kid, either way we have

                    government watching and making the determination.

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                                 MS. WALSH:  Okay, very good.  Thank you very

                    much, Mr. Hevesi.

                                 MR. HEVESI:  Thank you very, Ms. Walsh.

                                 MS. WALSH:  Mr. Speaker, on the bill.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  On the bill Ms.

                    Walsh.

                                 MS. WALSH:  I very much appreciate the sponsor's

                    answers to my questions, because it did definitely raise a concern in

                    my mind reading it.  I feel better knowing that, first of all, one of the

                    primary reasons for the bill is to ensure that the adoptive parents that

                    have taken on a disabled or hard to place child, which is by the way,

                    from what I understand, read very broadly, so many, many children

                    who are coming out of, for example, the foster care system, will

                    qualify for this subsidy, but we want to make sure that that money,

                    State money, Federal money is being appropriately used for the

                    benefit of that child by the adoptive parents.  So I really do applaud

                    the legislation as a way to audit and monitor and ensure that that really

                    is taking place, because that would really be a crime if that money is

                    not being used.  I do believe that the vast, vast majority of adoptive

                    parents are doing the right thing, and I do think -- I do think that this is

                    probably, relatively speaking, a rare occurrence, but I do think that

                    where it exists, we need to audit and make sure that it's being done

                    right.

                                 I appreciate the answers as far as, specifically the

                    concern raised by the New York Public Welfare Association about an

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                    unintended consequence of the legislation, and I am satisfied by the

                    answers of the sponsor to my questions that this is something that

                    would be handled through the social services department, as well as

                    through the court sytem to ensure that a younger adult does not

                    inadvertently or there's not an unintended consequence of that young

                    person leaving their adoptive home in an effort to receive the subsidy

                    money themselves when they're not really ready to do so and manage

                    their own affairs.  So thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Read the last

                    section.

                                 THE CLERK:  This act shall take effect immediately.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  The Clerk will

                    record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 Are there any other votes?  Announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is passed.

                                 Mr. Fall.

                                 MR. FALL:  Mr. Speaker, can we now go to

                    Calendar resolutions on page 3.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Resolutions on

                    page 3, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2243, rules

                    at the request of Ms. Seawright.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

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                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim May 22, 2024, as New York State

                    Assembly Legislative Disabilities Awareness Day.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  On the resolution,

                    all those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The --

                                 Ms. Darling on the resolution.

                                 MS. DARLING:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  It is such

                    an honor to be one of the founding members of the first People with

                    Disabilities Committee in the New York State Assembly.  This

                    milestone was long overdue and signified the crucial step in our

                    commitment to advocating for the rights and opportunities of

                    individuals with disabilities.  Establishing this committee marks a

                    pivotal moment in our efforts to create a more inclusive and equitable

                    society for all.  Disability awareness is essential because it helps to

                    break down barriers, dispel myths and to foster a deeper

                    understanding of the challenges faced by people with disabilities.

                    Often people with disabilities are treated differently and unfairly due

                    to societal stereotypes, but all they've ever wanted is to feel equal and

                    be given the same opportunities as everyone else.  By raising

                    awareness we can promote greater empathy, support, and action

                    towards creating a system that will have a meaningful integration and

                    independence ensuring that everyone has the opportunity to lead a full

                    and productive life.  In my district of Nassau County, I've met with

                    numerous organizations such as the EAC Network, BOCES, CP

                    Nassau, the Viscardi School and AHRC Nassau to name a few.  These

                    groups frequently visit my office to express their concerns about the

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                    wages given to their staffers, especially in school-age programs, where

                    dedicated professionals struggle to make ends meet while serving

                    children during their critical formative years.  They also continue to

                    face significant staff shortages.  I want to go on record to say that

                    supporting their essential work along with providing equal access to

                    opportunities is crucial for creating a more productive life for people

                    with disabilities.  I hear all of your concerns and I continue to fight

                    every day to address all aspects of disability rights.  We cannot

                    support one area while neglecting another.  A comprehensive

                    approach is necessary to ensure true equality and opportunity for all.

                    Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Mr. Santabarbara

                    on the resolution.

                                 MR. SANTABARBARA:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                    I rise to support this resolution.  I want to thank the sponsor for

                    bringing it forward.  Today as we come together on Legislative

                    Disabilities Awareness Day, I want to express my full support for this

                    important cause.  For me, this day means a lot, not just as a State

                    representative, but also as a father.  I often talk about my son's journey

                    with autism.  I've had him in the Chamber several times for several

                    different occasions, including Autism Acceptance Month which we

                    celebrated here at the State Capitol, as well.  His journey has shown

                    me just how important our support is -- for legislation that we pass

                    today, and to support people with disabilities across New York State.

                    Here in this Chamber we have the power to make some real change

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                    and affect the lives of the people that we represent.  Today we're

                    showing our commitment by passing a package of bills that aims to

                    make life better for New Yorkers with disabilities.  These bills will

                    help ensure people can get the services they need and will afford them

                    more opportunities for education, jobs and living independently.  Our

                    goal is important.  It's to make a world where no matter your ability

                    you can succeed and be a part of our community.  With the bills that

                    we passed today, we're also highlighting the values of kindness,

                    fairness and treating everyone with dignity.  So let's continue to stand

                    with the disability community and make a commitment to keep

                    supporting them.  Together we can make New York a place where

                    everyone has the opportunity to pursue their dreams.  Thank you, Mr.

                    Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Ms. Shimsky on

                    the resolution.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I, too,

                    rise to speak in favor of this resolution.  We have a rather substantial

                    percentage of people in the State of New York who are coping with

                    one or more disabilities.  We, as a State, have the responsibility to

                    ensure that they get the opportunities they need in education, in

                    housing, in health care to make sure they can live their best lives.  I

                    would like to thank the sponsor of this resolution, both for the

                    resolution and for -- for the illuminating awareness -- Disabilities

                    Awareness Day - excuse me - the Disabilities Awareness Day events

                    downstairs, which will hopefully teach us all about what we need to

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                    do to help make lives better for those with disabilities.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Mr. Sayegh on the

                    resolution.

                                 MR. SAYEGH:  Thank you very much for the

                    opportunity to rise and speak in support of services and legislation at

                    all levels that addresses the needs of students and people with

                    disabilities.  As a lifelong educator, I've had the pleasure of witnessing

                    the urgency and importance of working and providing special ed

                    students with the services they need.  And I can attest to the fact that

                    with proper services, students are able to achieve academic success

                    and employment success in preparation for life.  And what we need to

                    be reminded of, although in most instances we do a fairly good job of

                    providing especially, within the public school system, students with

                    disabilities and special ed needs, the services they need, too often we

                    forget that when they turn 21, that cutoff becomes very detrimental

                    because they're left in a vacuum and very often we fail to provide

                    adequate career and life skills that they need to proceed.  So today's

                    resolution is very special for me and for many of us that are

                    confronted with day in and day out the needs of people with

                    disabilities.  Thank you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Ms. Seawright on

                    the resolution.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  I rise

                    in support of this resolution, very important.  For the 44th Anniversary

                    of the New York State Assembly's Legislative Disability Awareness

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                    Day and commend the cosponsors and support for this as well as the

                    Speaker for his steadfast support of the disability community.  Thank

                    you.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Ms. Giglio on the

                    resolution.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I'd like

                    to thank the sponsor for this very important resolution.  I stand before

                    you today as we gather to observe New York State Legislative

                    Disabilities Awareness Day.  This day is not merely a ceremonial

                    acknowledgement.  It is a testament to our commitment to fostering an

                    inclusive society where every individual, regardless of ability, has the

                    opportunity to thrive.  As we celebrate this important day, we are

                    reminded of the substantial progress we have made in advancing the

                    rights and opportunities for people with disabilities.  New York State

                    has long been at the forefront of this movement, championing

                    legislation that promotes accessibility, inclusivity and equal

                    opportunities for all.  Our legislative efforts have brought about

                    significant changes from the Americans with Disabilities Act to

                    State-specific initiatives.  We have laid the groundwork for a more

                    inclusive society; however, our work is far from complete.

                                 Today is a call to action, a reminder that we must

                    continue to strive for greater inclusivity and equality.  Disability does

                    not defines a person's potential.  It is our collective responsibility to

                    ensure that barriers are removed and that every individual has the

                    opportunity to contribute fully to our communities.  This means not

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                    only enacting robust legislation, but also fostering of culture and

                    understanding and support.  Let us take a moment to recognize the

                    remarkable contributions of individuals with disabilities in every

                    sector of our society.  From the arts and sciences to education and

                    public service, people with disabilities have enriched our communities

                    with their talents, perspectives and resilience.  They have shown us

                    that diversity is their strength, and that inclusivity enhances the fabric

                    of our society.  Yet despite our progress, challenges remain.  Many

                    individuals with disabilities still face significant obstacles in accessing

                    education, employment and essential services.  This is unacceptable.

                    We must commit to breaking down these barriers though

                    comprehensive policies, adequate funding and unwavering advocacy.

                    On this Disabilities Day, let us renew our commitment to building a

                    State where everyone can achieve their fullest potential.  Let us pledge

                    to continue advocating for accessible transportation, inclusive

                    education, affordable health care and employment opportunities for

                    all.

                                 And again, I'd like to thank the sponsor and the

                    members of the People with Disabilities Committee.  We are a

                    cohesive group that work and strongly advocate for people with

                    unique abilities.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  On the resolution,

                    all those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2244, rules

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                    at the request of Ms. Buttenschon.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim May 19-25, 2024, as Eosinophil Awareness

                    Week in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Ms. Buttenschon

                    on the resolution.

                                 MS. BUTTENSCHON:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                    Earlier, I had my grandson here but his brother had to head to T-ball

                    practice, but we clearly are here to memorialize again the importance

                    and awareness of this disease.  As we see it, it looks at the clear attack

                    of the esophagus and clearly it is done by harmfulness of food that is

                    introduced to the body or agents within the environment.  This causes

                    swelling, possible structure impairments, as well as bleeding or ulcers.

                    And sometimes we see that the esophagus becomes so swollen that it

                    closes.  So this is something very serious, not only to our

                    communities, but to me personally, and I commend my colleagues,

                    again, for supporting this resolution and look forward to further

                    research.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  On the resolution,

                    all those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2245, rules

                    at the request of Mr. Burdick.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim May 20-28, 2024, as Period Poverty

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                    Awareness Week in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Mr. Burdick on

                    the resolution.

                                 MR. BURDICK:  Thank you for the opportunity to

                    speak on this resolution.  This resolution actually came from

                    conversations that I had with a community-based organization in my

                    district, 914 Cares.  And one of the projects that they have undertaken

                    very successfully is what they call 914 Cares Period Project, which

                    provides a month worth of period supplies and a flow kit to

                    menstruations -- menstruators in need.  And flow kits contain

                    tampons, pads, and panty liners.  Their goal is -- for this program is to

                    ensure that no student misses school, no adult misses work, and no

                    person misses out on daily life because they're unable to afford the

                    period supplies they need.  And this resolution is to amplify the fact

                    that there are adolescent girls and there are women that do not have

                    the wherewithal financially to afford these supplies, and to try to get

                    greater support for those who have that need and to be aware of the

                    need to provide dignity and to help them in their daily lives.  I thank

                    the Speaker for allowing us to bring this resolution to the floor, and

                    for my colleagues in supporting it as well.  Thank you very much, Mr.

                    Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  On the resolution,

                    all those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2246, rules

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                    at the request of Ms. Shimsky.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim the month of May 2024, as Williams

                    Syndrome Awareness Month in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  Ms. Shimsky on

                    the resolution.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.  Williams

                    Syndrome is a genetic condition present at birth that can affect

                    anyone, and is characterized by medical issues including

                    cardiovascular disease, developmental delays and learning disabilities.

                    These medical conditions often occur side by side with striking verbal

                    abilities, highly social personalities, and an infinity for music.  It is

                    estimated that Williams Syndrome impacts 1 in every 10,000 people

                    worldwide, including as many as 30,000 in the United States.  It is

                    known to occur equally in both males and females and in all cultures.

                                 In 1982, the Williams Syndrome Association

                    provided -- started to provide support to individuals with Williams

                    Syndrome, as well as their families, connecting them with

                    professionals and others who can help them in coping them through

                    with the condition.  Through this organization's efforts from raising

                    public awareness to funding critical new research and providing

                    valuable information and support to families, the Williams Syndrome

                    Association has improved the quality of life and futures of those

                    impacted by -- by the syndrome.  Of course, we heard earlier from the

                    Fortunato family, and their valiant efforts to support the Williams

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                    Syndrome Association on behalf of their daughter, Camille, and we've

                    also heard from, as well, the -- one more family.  There are many

                    families throughout New York that suffer from this.  I am also doing

                    this on behalf of a family in my own district, Joe Cornaccio (phonetic)

                    and Gary Smulley (phonetic) and the parents of Olivia Smulley who

                    also has Williams Syndrome.

                                 I would like to thank today the Assembly members

                    who introduced the families and the people coping with Williams

                    Syndrome on the floor earlier today, and I would like to urge everyone

                    to support this resolution which -- which deals with a syndrome that --

                    where people can live very, very good and productive lives with the

                    right support.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2247, rules

                    at the request of Mr. Lemondes.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim May 2024, as Wrestling Month in the State

                    of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Lemondes.

                                 MR. LEMONDES:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for

                    allowing me to bring this recognition to the floor.  May 2024 is World

                    Wrestling Month.  Wrestling is one of the most intense scholastic and

                    international sports dating back to ancient Sumeria and the Greeks

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                    who introduced it to the ancient Olympics in 708 BC as a form of

                    soldiers training.  For the occasion, United World Wrestling has

                    launched "This is Wrestling," a social media campaign asking

                    athletes, fans, coaches and members of the wrestling community to

                    share photos and videos of themselves related to wrestling which will

                    be on display tomorrow for you all to see.  In 2022, the U.S. Wrestling

                    Foundation, a nationally known non-profit organization officially

                    launched the first national Let's Wrestle Program to help more high

                    school students prepare for success and overcome challenges through

                    the principles of wrestling.  The campaign features prominent and

                    nationally-recognized celebrities who attribute the discipline learned

                    in wrestling as part of their professional success.  Stars from

                    Hollywood, the NFL, other sports, business leaders and scientists,

                    include Tommy Hifiger, Chris Pratt, NASA Astronauts, Indy car

                    drivers and NFL Superbowl Champions, among others.  Posters of the

                    stars and other recruiting materials have been sent to over 11,000 high

                    schools nationally to wrestling coaches.  Wrestling is currently the

                    sixth most popular boy's high school sport and is the fastest growing

                    girl's high school sport as well here at home in New York State.  This

                    month we celebrate the over two millennium-old sport of wrestling

                    worldwide and in the U.S. and, Mr. Speaker, let's wrestle.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor -- oh, I'm sorry.  Mr. Sayegh on the resolution.  How

                    could I have forgot?

                                 MR. SAYEGH:  Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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                    I couldn't resist.  You know, as a former wrestler myself, have

                    wrestled on the Lehman College, part of CUNY team many years ago,

                    and the SUNY Westchester Community College, I can attest firsthand

                    to how incredible and enjoyable, and the role it plays on fitness and on

                    teamwork that wrestling has.  So I commend the sponsor and truly

                    wrestling is outstanding.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Jensen on the

                    resolution.

                                 MR. JENSEN:  Thank you very much, Speaker.  I

                    was never a wrestler, but I'm so happy that the sponsor brought this

                    resolution to not just celebrate wrestling, but to highlight the people's

                    elbow in the People's House.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2248, rules

                    at the request of Ms. Seawright.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim June 16, 2024, as Neurodiversity Pride Day

                    in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2249, rules

                    at the request of Mr. Jones.

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                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim July 2024, as Lake Appreciation Month in

                    the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2250, rules

                    at the request of Ms. Wallace.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim October 5, 2024, as Ostomy Awareness

                    Day in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2251, rules

                    at the request of Ms. Sillitti.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim October 15, 2024, as Pregnancy and Infant

                    Loss Remembrance Day in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2252, rules

                    at the request of Mr. Zebrowski.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

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                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim October 6-12, 2024, as Fire Prevention

                    Week in the State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2253, rules

                    at the request of Mr. Epstein.

                                 Legislative Resolution memorializing Governor

                    Kathy Hochul to proclaim November 1, 2024, as Vegan Day in the

                    State of New York.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On the resolution, all

                    those in favor signify by saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is

                    adopted.

                                 Mr. Fall.

                                 MR. FALL:  Members have on their desk the

                    A-Calendar.  Mr. Speaker, I now move to advance the A-Calendar.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  On Mr. Fall's motion,

                    the A-Calendar is advanced.

                                 Mr. Fall.

                                 MR. FALL:  Mr. Speaker, do we have further

                    housekeeping or resolutions?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Well yes, we have

                    housekeeping.

                                 On behalf of Ms. Tapia, Bill No. A06506-A,

                    Assembly bill recalled from the Senate, the Clerk will read the title of

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                    the bill.

                                 THE CLERK:  An act to amend the General Business

                    Law.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Motion to reconsider

                    the vote by which the bill passed the House.

                                 The Clerk will record the vote.

                                 (The Clerk recorded the vote.)

                                 The Clerk will announce the results.

                                 (The Clerk announced the results.)

                                 The bill is before the House and the amendments are

                    received and adopted.

                                 Privileged Resolution No. 2255, the Clerk will read.


                                 THE CLERK:  Assembly Resolution No. 2255, Mr.

                    Tague.

                                 Legislative Resolution honoring Trooper Richard

                    Albert upon the occasion of his designation as Trooper of the Year by

                    the American Association of State Troopers.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Tague on the

                    resolution.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  Thank you, Mr. Speaker, on the

                    resolution.  I am honored and proud to be here today and recognize

                    New York State Trooper Richard "Ricky" Albert as he is being

                    recognized by the American Association of Troopers for his

                    unwavering dedication to the job and being awarded with the Trooper

                    of the Year Award.  Ricky is being recognized today for the heroism

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                    and courage he displayed on June 13th, 2023 when during a

                    high-speed traffic stop on I-88 in Duanesburg he came under fire

                    during the stop.  He was hit with a round in his left shoulder.  He

                    tactically retreated, returned cover fire and called in for backup,

                    stalling the gunman as he waited, the shooter fled the scene and was

                    cut off by an existing tractor trailer driver.  The individual fled to the

                    nearby wood line where Richard stayed on his tail, directed backup to

                    his location and led to the individual's capture.  Ricky was transported

                    to the hospital, recovered and displayed true bravery.  This true

                    bravery was shown under extreme circumstances.  His actions are to

                    greatly be applauded and his example should be followed by all those

                    who come after him; a calm, coordinated response to danger.  I ask

                    that you all join me in congratulating Ricky Albert, Trooper Richard

                    Albert, on being recognized for Trooper of the Year, and join me in

                    celebrating his heroism.  Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Thank you, sir.

                                 On the resolution, all those in favor signify by saying

                    aye; opposed, no.  The resolution is adopted.

                                 Mr. Fall, we have numerous other fine resolutions,

                    which we will take up with one vote.

                                 On these resolutions, all those in favor signify by

                    saying aye; opposed, no.  The resolutions are adopted.

                                 (Whereupon, Assembly Resolution Nos. 2254-2267

                    were unanimously approved.)

                                 Mr. Fall.

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                                 MR. FALL:  Mr. Speaker, can you call on Mr.

                    Jacobson for an announcement?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Mr. Jacobson for the

                    purposes of a announcement.

                                 MR. JACOBSON:  The anticipated conference for

                    the Majority will be held immediately following Session in Hearing

                    Room C.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  Majority Conference,

                    Hearing Room C.

                                 Mr. Fall.

                                 MR. FALL:  I now move that the Assembly stand

                    adjourned and that we reconvene at 9:30 a.m., Thursday, May 22nd,

                    tomorrow being a Session day.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  The Assembly stands

                    adjourned.

                                 (Whereupon, at 4:42 p.m., the Assembly stood

                    adjourned until Thursday, May 22nd at 9:30 a.m., Thursday being a

                    Session day.)















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