WEDNESDAY, MAY 31, 2023                                                                       12:13 P.M.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 PASTOR RICHARD HINDS WILL OFFER A PRAYER.

                                 PASTOR EDWARD-RICHARD HINDS:  LET US

                    PRAY.  GOD FOR (INAUDIBLE) SILENT TEARS.  GOD WHO HAS BROUGHT US THUS

                    FAR ALONG THE WAY, WE GATHER HERE TODAY IN THE HALLOWED HALLS OF THE

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, AND WE COME BEFORE YOUR DIVINE PRESENCE

                    WITH HEARTS FILLED WITH GRATITUDE AND REVERENCE.  WE ACKNOWLEDGE

                    YOUR SOVEREIGNTY, GOD, OVER ALL THINGS AND SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE AND

                    BLESSINGS AS WE EMBARK IN THIS SESSION.  WE THANK YOU FOR THE

                    PRIVILEGE OF LIVING IN A STATE THAT EMBRACES DIVERSITY, OPPORTUNITY AND

                    PROGRESS.  AND SO WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE

                    DEDICATED THEMSELVES TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK, AND WE ASK

                    THAT YOU GRANT THEM WISDOM, DISCERNMENT AND HUMILITY AS THEY FULFILL

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                    THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.  LORD, WE PRAY FOR UNITY AMONG OUR OFFICIALS.

                    RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS TRUE COLLABORATION AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN BEST

                    SERVE THE NEEDS OF ALL COMMUNITIES.  WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE IN

                    THESE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THESE CHAMBERS.  GRANT, O GOD, THE

                    LEADERS THE ABILITY TO LOOK BEYOND THEIR IMMEDIATE TO CONSIDER THE

                    LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THEIR CHOICES.  GOD, WE LIFT UP THOSE WHO ARE MOST

                    VULNERABLE AMONG US; THE MARGINALIZED, THE OPPRESSED AND THE

                    VOICELESS.  WE PRAY YOU'LL GIVE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THE COMPASSION

                    AND COURAGE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEIR RIGHTS AND TO ADDRESS THE INJUSTICE

                    THAT THEY FACE.  GOD, AS THEY NAVIGATE THROUGH THE COMPLEX ISSUES THAT

                    CONFRONT US, WE ASK FOR YOUR DIVINE WISDOM TO FIND SUSTAINABLE

                    SOLUTIONS TO THE CHALLENGES OF OUR TIME.  AND FINALLY, FATHER, WE PRAY

                    FOR THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND ITS PEOPLE.  WILL YOU BLESS US WITH

                    PEACE, BLESS US WITH PROSPERITY AND A DEEP SENSE OF COMMUNITY.  HELP

                    US EMBRACE OUR DIVERSITY AND TO WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS A FUTURE THAT

                    UPHOLDS THE VALUES OF EQUALITY AND JUSTICE.  MAY YOUR PRESENCE BE

                    WITH US AS WE STRIVE TO BUILD A STATE WHERE ALL ARE VALUED, RESPECTED AND

                    GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE.  WE OFFER THIS PRAYER WITH HUMBLE

                    HEARTS, SEEKING YOUR BLESSINGS AND GUIDANCE.  MAY YOUR LIGHT SHINE

                    UPON US AS WE EMBRACE THIS SESSION.  AND WHILE I RESPECT EVERY

                    (INAUDIBLE), I ASK THIS AND I SAY AMEN.

                                 MEMBERS:  AMEN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  VISITORS ARE INVITED

                    TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, MAY 30TH.

                                 MRS.  PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

                    DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, MAY THE

                    30TH AND THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

                    ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                    COLLEAGUES AND GUESTS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBERS, I WANT TO START TO --

                    TODAY'S SESSION WITH A QUOTE THAT COMES FROM MARK TWAIN.  I DON'T

                    NEED TO TELL FOLKS WHO HE IS, EVERYBODY REMEMBERS MARK TWAIN.  HIS

                    WORDS FOR US TODAY, "ANGER IS AN ACID THAT CAN DO MORE HARM TO THE

                    VESSEL IN WHICH IT IS STORED THAN TO ANYTHING ON WHICH IT IS POURED."

                    AGAIN, WORDS FROM MARK TWAIN THAT I THINK ARE VERY APPROPRIATE FOR

                    TODAY AND EVERY DAY IN OUR LIVES.

                                 MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A MAIN CALENDAR.  WE

                    ALSO HAVE A DEBATE LIST, AND AFTER ANY HOUSEKEEPING OR INTRODUCTIONS,

                    MR. SPEAKER, WE'LL BE CALLING FOR THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEES OFF THE

                    FLOOR:  CODES AND WAYS AND MEANS.  WE'LL TAKE UP THE FOLLOWING BILLS

                    FROM THE DEBATE LIST ON DEBATE:  RULES REPORT NO. 302 BY MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.  WE WILL THEN CONTINUE ON CONSENT WHERE WE LEFT OFF

                    ON YESTERDAY WITH RULES REPORT NO. 349 ON PAGE 14 BY MS. REYES,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    STRAIGHT THROUGH TO RULES REPORT NO. 422.  I MAY HAVE TO ANNOUNCE

                    ADDITIONAL FLOOR ACTIVITY AS WE PROCEED, MR. SPEAKER.  MEMBERS SHOULD

                    NOTE THAT WE WILL TAKE UP CALENDAR RESOLUTIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY.

                                 THAT'S A GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW,

                    SIR.  IF THERE ARE ANY HOUSEKEEPING OR INTRODUCTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, NOW

                    WOULD BE A GREAT TIME.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.  WE DO HAVE A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MR. MCDONALD, PAGE 21, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 384, BILL NO. A.6568-A, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND

                    ADOPTED.

                                 FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION, MS.

                    CHANDLER-WATERMAN.

                                 MS. CHANDLER-WATERMAN:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE A DYNAMIC LEADER IN DISTRICT 58

                    CLERGY COMMUNITY.  AS YOU HEARD HIM JUST PRAY FOR ALL OF US, REVEREND

                    EDWARD-RICHARD HINDS IS A YOUTH PASTOR, CHOIR AND WORSHIP LEADER AT

                    THE RUGBY DELIVERANCE TABERNACLE.  NOT ONLY IS THIS CHURCH A SAFE

                    HAVEN FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH PANTRY SERVICES, THEY ALSO ARE

                    A SMALL BLACK LANDLORD FOR BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS, EVEN FOR MY

                    DISTRICT OFFICE, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF ARCHBISHOP DR. SIDLEY

                    MULLINGS.  PASTOR HINDS GOES BEYOND HIS CONGREGATION TO SERVE OUR

                    BROOKLYN COMMUNITY AS PRESIDENT OF THE GODSQUAD, 67TH PRECINCT

                    CLERGY COUNCIL, AN ORGANIZATION OF CLERGY AND VOLUNTEERS WHO TACKLE

                    SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES INCLUDING GUN VIOLENCE.  I AM PROUD TO SAY, UNDER

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                    HIS LEADERSHIP THE GODSQUAD IS A MEMBER OF OUR ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 58

                    PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE AND SAFETYNESS TASK FORCE, AND HE HIMSELF IS

                    A MEMBER AS WELL.  PASTOR HINDS IS A PARTNER WHO SHOWS UP DAILY ON

                    BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, FROM THE PULPIT TO THE STREETS.  AND WORKING

                    ALONGSIDE OF HIM I WOULD LIKE -- TYRON, IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND -- HE

                    SERVED AS A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT LIAISON AT THE (INAUDIBLE) CLERGY

                    COUNCIL, THE GODSQUAD.  HE'S A YOUNG MAN WHO IS PASSIONATE ABOUT

                    THE COMMUNITY AND STRIVES TO SEE THE BETTERMENT OF YOUTH NOT JUST IN

                    BROOKLYN, BUT IN NEW YORK CITY, AND POSSIBLY A FUTURE PASTOR STANDING

                    RIGHT NEXT TO US.  SO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING ALONGSIDE THESE VERY

                    PRESTIGED [SIC] YOUNG MEN FOR YEARS, AND I KNOW THE WORK AND

                    DEDICATION.  AND IT'S MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO INTRODUCE BOTH PASTOR

                    EDWARD-RICHARD HINDS AND TYRON STEARNS OF -- TO THE MEMBERS OF THE

                    NEW YORK STATE.

                                 THANK YOU SO MUCH.  PLEASE EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF

                    THE FLOOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. CHANDLER-WATERMAN, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS,

                    REVEREND, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE WITH US AND SHARING

                    THIS DAY.  ALSO TO YOU, SIR, FOR COMING.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME BACK.  THANK YOU SO

                    MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. ZEBROWSKI FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. ZEBROWSKI:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I HAVE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    A COUPLE OF CONSTITUENTS HERE TODAY FROM THE POLISH AMERICAN CULTURAL

                    ASSOCIATION OF ROCKLAND COUNTY.  WELL, WE ACTUALLY -- THERE'S A FEW OF

                    US WHO HAVE POLISH AMERICAN CONSTITUENTS HERE.  I THINK THOSE ARE MS.

                    GALLAGHER'S CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE ALREADY IN THE BACK THERE.  THERE WE

                    GO.  CAME IN LATE, MR. SPEAKER.  BUT LET ME INTRODUCE TO YOU TODAY

                    RENATA OMELANCZUK, AS WELL AS HER HUSBAND LESZEK OMELANCZUK.

                    THESE TWO FOLKS ARE ROCKLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS, LONG-TIME ROCKLAND

                    COUNTY RESIDENTS.  THEY ARE PROUD PARENTS OF TWO DAUGHTERS, CLAUDIA

                    AND CAROLINA.  RENATA WORKS AT ROCKLAND COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN

                    ROCKLAND COUNTY AND ALSO IS PART OF THE IBNA SPOON RIVER REAL

                    ESTATE TEAM.  SHE WAS THE 2019 ROCKLAND COUNTY GRAND MARSHAL IN

                    THE 82ND PULASKI DAY PARADE, AND SHE HEADS UP THE POLISH AMERICAN

                    CULTURAL ASSOCIATION OF ROCKLAND COUNTY.  THEY ARE HERE TODAY ALONG

                    -- ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUE'S CONSTITUENTS TO -- AS WE WILL

                    LATER IN THE DAY PASS A RESOLUTION HONORING POLISH AMERICAN HERITAGE

                    MONTH HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND RECOGNIZE THE

                    ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF SO MANY POLISH AMERICANS THAT ARE ACROSS THE

                    GREAT STATE OF NEW YORK.  CERTAINLY, FROM THE EARLY DAYS FROM GENERAL

                    KOSCIUSZKO -- SOME OF YOU WILL MISPRONOUNCE IT AS KOSIASKOW

                    [PHONETIC] -- BUT GENERAL KOSCIUSZKO WAS ONE THE GREAT MILITARY MINDS

                    OF EARLY AMERICA WHO HAVE FORTIFIED WEST POINT, AS WELL AS GENERAL

                    PULASKI, WHO -- I SEE FOLKS LOOKING AROUND, IT IS KOSCIUSZKO.  YEAH, SO

                    NEXT TIME ON THE RADIO WHEN YOU SAY KOSIASKOW [PHONETIC] -- YEAH,

                    YEAH, KOSCIUSZKO.  AM I RIGHT, TO ALL MY POLISH FRIENDS IN THE BACK?

                    YES.  CLOSE ENOUGH?  BETTER THAN KOSIASKOW [PHONETIC].  AND GENERAL

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    PULASKI, I WAS ACTUALLY AT A WEDDING DOWN IN SAVANNAH, GEORGIA OVER

                    THE WEEKEND AND SAW THE BIG STATUE OF GENERAL PULASKI, WHO WAS A -- A

                    GENERAL WHO CAME FROM POLAND WHO WAS -- LED THE FIRST CALVARY IN THE

                    AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND DIED IN SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, BUT IS ALSO

                    CREDITED AS ONE OF THE GREAT POLISH GENERALS WHO CAME OVER AND HELPED

                    AMERICA FIGHT FOR ITS INDEPENDENCE.

                                 AND LASTLY, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE UKRAINIAN CRISIS I THINK

                    WE ALL SAW -- I THINK IT'S ESTIMATED THAT 1.6 MILLION REFUGEES FROM

                    UKRAINE CAME OVER THE BORDER INTO POLAND AND WERE HOSTED BY POLISH

                    FAMILIES, SO A LOT TO BE PROUD OF.  AND IF YOU COULD JUST WELCOME MY

                    CONSTITUENTS HERE TODAY, MR. SPEAKER, I'D APPRECIATE IT.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. ZEBROWSKI, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME

                    THESE DISTINGUISHED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE POLISH COMMUNITY HERE TO

                    THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE

                    FLOOR.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THAT WITH ME.  AND I HAD

                    BEEN MISPRONOUNCING BOTH NAMES MY ENTIRE LIFE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH

                    FOR CORRECTING THAT.  YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. GALLAGHER FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. GALLAGHER:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  I AM A PROUD REPRESENTATIVE OF GREENPOINT, BROOKLYN, WHICH

                    HISTORICALLY IS THE SECOND-LARGEST POLISH AMERICAN COMMUNITY BEHIND

                    CHICAGO, AND I HAVE SOME WONDERFUL REPRESENTATIVES OF THAT

                    COMMUNITY THAT KEEP IT THRIVING TODAY.  FIRST, I HAVE JACEK BIKOWSKI.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    JACEK IMMIGRATED TO GREENPOINT, BROOKLYN IN 1990 WHERE HE FIRST

                    WORKED AS A MAINTENANCE MAN.  AS HE LEARNED THE ART OF MAINTAINING A

                    BUILDING, HE BECAME AWARE OF THE MANY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WERE NOT

                    MAINTAINING THEIRS, TO THE DETRIMENT OF THEIR TENANTS.  WITHIN A YEAR HE

                    BECAME AN OUTSPOKEN TENANT ADVOCATE AND ONE -- AND REMAINS ONE OF

                    THE FEW POLISH-SPEAKING TENANT ADVOCATES IN THE DISTRICT.  MR. BIKOWSKI

                    WORKS WITH MR. RICH MAZUR AND -- AND YOLANDA SZCZEPKOWSKA AT

                    NORTH BROOKLYN DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THEY HAVE SINGLE-HANDEDLY SAVED

                    THOUSANDS OF POLISH RESIDENTS FROM EVICTION AND HARASSMENT AS THE

                    NEIGHBORHOOD HAS INCREASINGLY GENTRIFIED OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.  MR.

                    RICH MAZUR IS LOCALLY KNOWN AS THE MAYOR OF GREENPOINT.  RICHARD

                    MAZUR IMMIGRATED TO GREENPOINT AT AGE TWO ALONGSIDE MANY DISPLACED

                    POLISH PEOPLE FROM GERMANY.  HE'S A COMMUNITY LEADER AND AN

                    AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER, AND HIS -- HIS ORGANIZATION, NORTH

                    BROOKLYN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, REALLY SERVES OUR CONSTITUENTS AT

                    EVERY LEVEL OF THEIR -- EVERY TIME OF THEIR LIVES.  THEY HAVE AFTER-SCHOOL

                    PROGRAMS ALL THE WAY UP TO SENIOR PROGRAMS, AND THEY HAVE -- THEY'RE

                    ONE OF THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF SENIOR HOUSING IN OUR DISTRICT.  HE ALSO

                    HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE ACTIVIST THROUGHOUT OUR -- THE HISTORY OF THE

                    NEIGHBORHOOD.  EVERYTHING FROM ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE TO HOUSING

                    JUSTICE TO CULTURAL JUSTICE, WE CAN COUNT ON MR. MAZUR TO SHOW UP AND

                    HELP US KEEP THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, AND HE REALLY BUILDS BRIDGES

                    BETWEEN SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY'S RESIDENTS.  AND FINALLY, BUT ALSO

                    MOST IMPRESSIVELY, I HAVE MR. MARIAN ZAK.  MARIAN ZAK IS A

                    PROFESSIONAL CHOREOGRAPHER, TEACHER AND CULTURAL ORGANIZER WHO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    CURRENTLY PRESIDES AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE POLISH AND SLAVIC CENTER IN

                    GREENPOINT, BROOKLYN.  HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE STATE BALLET SCHOOL IN

                    WARSAW, POLAND AND WAS THE PRINCIPAL DANCER WITH THE KRAKOW OPERA

                    AND THE SILESIAN STATE OPERA, AND HE DIRECTED AND CHOREOGRAPHED A

                    VARIETY OF PRODUCTIONS ON STAGE AND TELEVISION IN POLAND.  IN 1988 HE

                    IMMIGRATED TO AMERICA, WHERE HE WORKS AS A CHOREOGRAPHER AND DANCE

                    TEACHER.  IN 1998, MR. ZAK FOUNDED NEW YORK DANCE AND ARTS

                    INNOVATION, A NON-PROFIT THAT CONCENTRATES ON THE PROMOTION OF

                    INTERNATIONAL ART WITH A FOCUS ON POLISH ART AND CULTURAL EVENTS.  AND

                    FOR HIS ARTISTIC ACTIVITY, MR. ZAK HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL AWARDS IN

                    RECOGNITION FROM NEW YORK ELECTED OFFICIALS AND POLAND'S

                    GOVERNMENT.  SINCE 1989, MARIAN ZAK HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE

                    POLISH AND SLAVIC CENTER, AND HE HOLDS DUAL POLISH AND AMERICAN

                    CITIZENSHIP.  IN 2019, MR. ZAK WAS ELECTED THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD

                    OF DIRECTORS.  THE POLISH SLAVIC CENTER IS AN INCREDIBLE ORGANIZATION,

                    AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF THE LARGEST COMMUNITY BANKS IN

                    AMERICA.  THANK YOU.

                                 PLEASE -- MR. SPEAKER, PLEASE WELCOME THEM TO THE

                    FLOOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. GALLAGHER, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THIS

                    DISTINGUISHED GROUP FROM GREENPOINT.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES

                    OF THE FLOOR.  OUR CONGRATULATIONS ON THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, MR.

                    MAYOR, HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.  YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN THE NEW

                    YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.  PLEASE CONTINUE TO ENJOY

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                    YOUR DAY, AND ALWAYS KNOW THAT YOU CAN COME BACK.  THANK YOU SO

                    MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. BUTTENSCHON FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. BUTTENSCHON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  AS

                    MY COLLEAGUES HAVE STATED, I, TOO, AM HONORED TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS HERE

                    FROM UTICA, NEW YORK AS WE CELEBRATE A RESOLUTION LATER IN OUR

                    PROCEEDINGS FOR POLISH HERITAGE MONTH.  I HAVE WITH ME TODAY ELA

                    PAWLOWSKI AND HER SON MAX.  ELA IS THE GOLD CROSS OF MERIT AWARD

                    WINNER.  THIS GOLD CROSS MERIT IS THE HIGHEST CIVILIAN AWARD GIVEN BY

                    THE PRESIDENT OF POLAND AND PRESENTED TO A CITIZEN IN RECOGNITION OF

                    THEIR OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVICE IN HUMANITARIAN WORK.  AS I READ THIS

                    AWARD, THAT IS ELA.  ELA IS AT EVERY EVENT IN THE UTICA AREA, PROMOTING

                    OUR POLISH COMMUNITY HOME, ENSURING THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE

                    CULTURE.  WITH HER MANY OTHER AWARDS, A WOMAN OF THE YEAR UNSUNG

                    HERO, AND THE LIST GOES ON, EDUCATOR OF THE YEAR.  SHE IS NOT ONLY THE

                    VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR CLUB, BUT SHE ALSO WORKS FULL-TIME AND IS A REAL

                    ESTATE AGENT.  THE WORK THAT SHE PROVIDES FOR OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT

                    GO UNNOTICED, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR SON BEING HERE TODAY

                    AS WE HONOR THOSE WITH THE POLISH HERITAGE A LITTLE BIT LATER IN OUR

                    PROCEEDINGS.

                                 PLEASE EXTEND TO MY GUESTS FROM THE DISTRICT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. BUTTENSCHON, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WELCOME TO THE

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    FLOOR.  CONGRATULATIONS ON THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.  PLEASE CONTINUE

                    THAT WORK.  KNOW, TOO, THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE FRIENDS HERE IN ALBANY.

                    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'D

                    LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE TWO CONSTITUENTS AND A

                    DELEGATION THAT ARE HERE TODAY IN THE FIELD OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.  THEY'RE

                    SURVIVORS AND ACTIVISTS HERE IN ALBANY TODAY FOR THEIR ADVOCACY AND

                    RALLY IN THE STATE CAPITOL.  CONSTITUENT JOYCE SHORT, WHO HAILS FROM

                    ROOSEVELT ISLAND.  SHE'S THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK, YOUR CONSENT:  THE KEY

                    TO CONQUERING SEXUAL ASSAULT.  SHE'S ALSO AN AVID PICKLEBALL PLAYER

                    AND COACHES BOTH TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL ON THE ISLAND.  WE'RE ALSO

                    JOINED BY ANDREA JACKSON, WHO IS PRESIDENT OF RISA, WHICH IS THE

                    ROOSEVELT ISLAND SENIOR ASSOCIATION.  SHE IS A LEADER AND ACTIVIST.

                    ALSO JOINING ARE MINA LUCAS (PHONETIC), ABBEY NYE (PHONETIC),

                    STEPHANIE MESSINA (PHONETIC) AND SARAH HOWARD (PHONETIC).  AND

                    WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE THEM TODAY IN THE CHAMBER, APPRECIATE THEIR

                    LEADERSHIP, THEIR ADVOCACY AND THEIR ACTIVISM ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.

                                 I ASK, MR. SPEAKER, THAT YOU PLEASE EXTEND THE

                    CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. SEAWRIGHT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THESE

                    DISTINGUISHED REPRESENTATIVES FROM ROOSEVELT ISLAND HERE TO THE NEW

                    YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  THANK

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    YOU FOR VISITING US HERE TODAY IN ALBANY AND FOR YOUR ADVOCACY FOR

                    THOSE WHO SOMETIMES CANNOT ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES.  CONTINUE THAT

                    GREAT WORK.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT AGAIN.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'M

                    ALSO JOINED BY A NATIVE TEXAN, MY NEPHEW, CHASE DUNNAHOE, WHO'S IN

                    ALBANY TODAY FOR HIS FIRST TRIP TO NEW YORK.  HE'S HERE TO TOUR ALBANY

                    LAW SCHOOL WHERE HE'S BEEN OFFERED A TRUSTEE SCHOLARSHIP AND MAKE A

                    DECISION ON WHERE HE WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE HIS LEGAL EDUCATION.  HE'S

                    THE VALEDICTORIAN OF HIS LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS, AN

                    ALL-DISTRICT BASKETBALL FORWARD, ALL-STATE FOOTBALL RECEIVER,

                    ALL-DISTRICT BASEBALL PITCHER.  HE'S CURRENTLY A LAW CLERK AT THE LAW FIRM

                    OF FRIEDMAN AND FEIGER IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AND HE'S AN HONORS GRADUATE

                    FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS MCCOMBS SCHOOL OF BUSINESS.  WE WISH

                    HIM WELL IN HIS LEGAL EDUCATION, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOPE HE

                    DECIDES ON NEW YORK AND ALBANY FOR THAT EDUCATION.  AND HE IS JOINED

                    BY HIS COUSIN, MY SON BRAD HERSHENSON.  IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT DAY WHEN

                    I HAVE A SURPRISE VISIT FROM MY WONDERFUL SON.  HE IS A PHD STUDENT AT

                    THE UNIVERSITY OF ALBANY SCHOOL OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND

                    INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.  HE'S A FORMER TRUSTEE OF THE STATE UNIVERSITY

                    OF NEW YORK AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SUNY STUDENT ASSOCIATION.  AND

                    HE'S A MEMBER OF MANHATTAN'S COMMUNITY BOARD 8.  ALSO A AVID

                    PICKLEBALL PLAYER AND CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR.

                                 I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE EXTEND THE CORDIALITIES OF THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    HOUSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. SEAWRIGHT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  YOU'RE FAMILY, SO AS FAMILY

                    YOU'RE ALWAYS GIVEN THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  CONGRATULATIONS ON THE

                    WORK THAT YOU BOTH HAVE DONE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TEXAS' LOSS WILL BE

                    OUR GAIN.  SO THINK KINDLY ABOUT A NEW YORK LAW SCHOOL.  THANK YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. HUNTER FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. HUNTER:  YES, THANK YOU AND GOOD AFTERNOON,

                    MR. SPEAKER.  I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME TODAY JAYEE KOFFEY.  SHE IS THE

                    GLOBAL HEAD OF ENTERPRISE EXECUTION AND CHIEF CORPORATE AFFAIRS

                    OFFICER FOR BNY MELLON, AMERICA'S OLDEST BANK.  BNY MELLON'S

                    REMARKABLE HISTORY OF INNOVATION BEGAN ON JUNE 9, 1784 WHEN

                    ALEXANDER HAMILTON, THE FIRST SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY AND ONE OF THE

                    SEVEN FOUNDING FATHERS OF THE UNITED STATES, ESTABLISHED BNY

                    MELLON'S PREDECESSOR, THE BANK OF NEW YORK.  IN 1784 WHILE

                    OPERATING AS A PRIVATE BANK UNDER A CONSTITUTION WRITTEN BY HAMILTON,

                    THE COALITION PETITIONED THE NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE, US, A LONG

                    TIME AGO, TO CHARTER A PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY, MR.

                    SPEAKER, WAS THE FIRST PIECE OF BANKING LEGISLATION PASSED IN NEW YORK

                    STATE AND WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY GOVERNOR GEORGE CLINTON.  SINCE

                    THAT TIME BNY MELLON HAS MAINTAINED ITS CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS IN

                    NEW YORK.  AND FOR THOSE OF MY COLLEAGUES INTERESTED IN THIS

                    IMPORTANT PART OF NEW YORK STATE HISTORY WITH MS. KOFFEY THIS

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    AFTERNOON, MR. SPEAKER, BNY MELLON HAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO THE

                    CAPITOL THE ORIGINAL 1784 PETITION FILED WITH THE ASSEMBLY TO CREATE

                    THIS BANK WHICH WILL BE SHOWN AS A PIECE OF HISTORY IN THE ALBANY

                    ROOM LATER THIS AFTERNOON, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 SO IF YOU WOULD KINDLY WELCOME MS. KOFFEY TO THIS

                    CHAMBER AND EXTEND HER THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. HUNTER, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.  WE

                    APPRECIATE YOU RESTORING SOME OF OUR HISTORY TO THIS PLACE.  WE

                    WELCOME YOU HERE, AND KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IN ALBANY.

                    THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. CRUZ FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. CRUZ:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  ON BEHALF OF

                    MEMBER DE LOS SANTOS AND MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DR. ROSA GILL,

                    DR. ROSA.  SHE IS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT AND CEO OF COMMUNILIFE.

                    FOR THE LAST 34 YEARS, COMMUNILIFE HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO PROVIDING

                    VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES WITH HOUSING, CULTURALLY-SENSITIVE SUPPORTIVE

                    SERVICES, AND WITH PROGRAMS THAT INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MEDICAL

                    RESPITE SERVICES AND LATINA ADOLESCENT SUICIDE PREVENTION ACTIVITIES

                    THROUGH THE LIFE IS PRECIOUS PROGRAM.  COMMUNILIFE SERVES MORE THAN

                    3,000 LOW-INCOME VULNERABLE NEW YORKERS IN 2022.  I GOT THE HONOR

                    OF VISITING DR. GILL'S PROGRAM, COMMUNILIFE, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND

                    GOT TO SEE THESE WONDERFUL YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAD HAD SUICIDAL

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                    IDEATIONS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND THE PROGRAM CAME IN AND WORKED

                    WITH THEM TO PROVIDE THEM SUPPORT AND THEIR FAMILY.  AND I CAN SAY DR.

                    GILL IS NOTHING SHORT THAN A HERO FOR HELPING SAVE MANY OF THESE GIRLS'

                    LIVES.  DR. GILL IS A POWERHOUSE.  SHE'S AN ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT

                    SHE SERVES, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THESE YOUNG GIRLS.  SHE'S TESTIFIED IN FRONT

                    OF OUR OWN COMMITTEES ABOUT HER WORK AND THE NEED TO SUPPORT SUICIDE

                    PREVENTION PROGRAMS.  SHE HAS A DISTINGUISHED CAREER IN THE FIELDS OF

                    HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, SOCIAL SERVICES AND HIGHER EDUCATION.  SHE

                    SERVED AS THE MAYOR'S HEALTH POLICY ADVISOR, SHE'S THE FORMER

                    CHAIRPERSON OF NEW YORK CITY'S HEALTH AND HOSPITALS CORPORATION,

                    THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR -- FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF WOODHULL

                    MEDICAL CENTER AND METROPOLITAN HOSPITAL.  SHE WAS THE FORMER

                    SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF GENERATION IN NORTHERN MANHATTAN NETWORK,

                    SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF MENTAL HEALTH AND HYGIENE IN NEW YORK

                    CITY'S HEALTH AND HOSPITALS CORPORATION, AND SO MANY OTHER TITLES.  BUT

                    AS I SAID BEFORE, THE ONE I'D LIKE TO CALL HER IS SUPERHERO, BECAUSE DR.

                    GILL HAS SAVED THE LIVES OF SO MANY OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS AND WE ARE SO

                    PROUD TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

                                 SO, MR. SPEAKER, IF YOU WILL HELP US IN WELCOMING DR.

                    GILL AND PROVIDING HER THE CORDIALITIES OF THE HOUSE.  THANK YOU, DR.

                    GILL, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. CRUZ AND MR. DE LOS SANTOS, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS,

                    DOCTOR, WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE

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                    SALUTE YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THE WORK THAT YOU

                    CONTINUE TO DO.  PLEASE KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE AND YOU

                    ARE EXTENDED THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU FOR SPENDING YOUR

                    TIME WITH US TODAY.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. SIMPSON FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'M

                    HONORED HERE TODAY TO INTRODUCE A FELLOW COLLEAGUE FROM VERMONT,

                    REPRESENTATIVE JARROD SAMMIS.  JARROD WAS BORN IN VERMONT, BUT HIS

                    FAMILY ROOTS FLOW BETWEEN VERMONT AND UPSTATE NEW YORK,

                    PARTICULARLY THE TICONDEROGA REGION WHICH I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF

                    REPRESENTING.  REPRESENTATIVE SAMMIS WAS RECENTLY ELECTED TO THE

                    VERMONT HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, REPRESENTING RUTLAND 3 DISTRICT

                    LAST NOVEMBER 2022.  REPRESENTATIVE SAMMIS IS AN ALUM OF CASTLETON

                    STATE COLLEGE WHERE HE EARNED HIS BS IN COMMUNICATIONS, PUBLIC

                    RELATIONS, POLITICAL SCIENCE.  HE CURRENTLY HELPS OPERATE HIS FAMILY'S

                    HOME REAL ESTATE BUSINESS AND HAS WORKED AND VOLUNTEERED WITH MANY

                    GROUPS ACROSS OUR LOVELY STATES INCLUDING ST. JUDE'S CHILDREN --

                    CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, THE ESSEX COUNTY HEROIN OPIATE PREVENTION TASK

                    FORCE, TICONDEROGA AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THE UNITED WAY, THE

                    VERMONT ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS, THE AMERICAN LEGION VETERANS

                    ASSOCIATION, THE HOMETOWN HEROES BANNER PROGRAM, TICONDEROGA

                    AREA NEIGHBORS ADDRESSING DRUG ABUSE COALITION, AND THE CASTLETON

                    STATE COLLEGE-CASTLETON UNIVERSITY SAFE RIDE DRUNK DRIVING

                    PREVENTION PROGRAM.  AS A NEWLY-ELECTED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL WHO IS

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                    -- WHO HAS THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE, I BELIEVE THAT

                    REPRESENTATIVE SAMMIS WILL FIND THIS CAREER ONE OF PUBLIC SERVICE

                    ESPECIALLY REWARDING.

                                 SO, MR. SPEAKER, COULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME

                    REPRESENTATIVE JARROD SAMMIS OF THE VERMONT HOUSE OF

                    REPRESENTATIVES TO THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE AND EXTEND HIM THE CORDIALITIES

                    AND PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. SIMPSON, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME THE

                    BROTHER LEGISLATOR HERE FROM VERMONT.  WE WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE

                    NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.

                    CONTINUE, I HOPE, IN THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IN YOUR STATE.

                    KNOW THAT THIS IS ALWAYS A BOND BETWEEN NEW YORK AND VERMONT.

                    PLEASE WELCOME YOURSELF.  THANK YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. MCDONALD FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. MCDONALD:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    EXCUSE ME.  I RISE TODAY TO INTRODUCE A GROUP FROM NEUROFIBROMATOSIS

                    NORTHEAST AS WE DECLARE MAY NEUROFIBROMATOSIS AWARENESS MONTH.

                    NEUROFIBROMATOSIS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS NF, ENCOMPASSES A SET OF

                    DISTINCT GENETIC DISORDERS THAT CAUSE TUMORS TO GROW ALONG VARIOUS TYPE

                    OF NERVES AND THROUGHOUT THE BODY.  NF TUMORS CAN CAUSE SIGNIFICANT

                    DAMAGE TO NERVES, LEADING TO HEARING LOSS, VISUAL IMPAIRMENT, BALANCE

                    ISSUES AND OTHER FUNCTIONAL PROBLEMS, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION OF THE

                    TUMORS.  TREATMENT HAS BEEN LIMITED TO SURGERY TO REMOVE THE TUMORS,

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                    OFTEN CREATING COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO THE NERVES AND THE SPINAL CORD.

                    THE REALITY IS, LIVING WITH NF, LIKE LIVING WITH MANY OTHER CHRONIC

                    DISEASES, IS CHALLENGING AND AT TIMES DISCOURAGING.  OUR PURPOSE THIS

                    MONTH OF MAY AS NF MONTH IS TO CALL ATTENTION TO THIS DEVASTATING

                    DISEASE, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONDITIONS AND THE FAMILIES AND ALL THOSE

                    WHO ARE SUPPORTING FURTHER RESEARCH TO PROVIDE HOPE FOR THE PEOPLE AND

                    THE FAMILIES.  BUT IN THE GREATEST SENSE IT'S TO RECOGNIZE THOSE PEOPLE

                    WHOSE LIVES ARE AFFECTED BY NF, AND WHOSE VALIANT STRUGGLE TO LIVE FULL

                    AND PRODUCTIVE LIVES DESPITE THEIR DISEASE IS AN INSPIRATION THAT WE

                    SHOULD ALL ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE.

                                 JOINING US TODAY IS KATHLEEN WILCOX, SUSAN

                    BENJAMIN, ANNE PATTERSON, VITO GRASSO, MAUREEN O'BRIEN AND GABE

                    O'BRIEN.  MR. SPEAKER, I'VE KNOWN GABE O'BRIEN AND HIS MOM SEVERAL

                    YEARS NOW, AND AS HIS MOM OFTEN DESCRIBES IT, EVERY YEAR IS ANOTHER

                    STEP FORWARD.  THERE WAS NEVER A THOUGHT HE WOULD GRADUATE FROM

                    EIGHTH GRADE OR HIGH SCHOOL; HE DID IT WITH HONORS.  HE JUST COMPLETED

                    HIS FIRST YEAR OF COLLEGE, TOP OF THE LINE AT VILLANOVA.  PLEASE EXTEND TO

                    GABE AND ALL THOSE WELCOME TODAY, YOUR RECEPTION HERE IN THE NEW

                    YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. MCDONALD, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  OUR THANKS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING,

                    CONTINUE THAT GREAT WORK.  KNOW THAT YOU ALWAYS ARE WELL-REPRESENTED

                    HERE IN THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  CONTINUE TO JOIN US AS YOU

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                    WILL.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. JACKSON FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. JACKSON:  WELL, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I AM

                    INTRODUCING EMMA DARCIUS (PHONETIC) AND BABY ROYAL SWEEZER

                    (PHONETIC), WHO IS SIX MONTHS -- YEARS [SIC] OLD.  EMMA AND ROYAL ARE

                    HERE FROM THE FOSTERING YOUTH SUCCESS ALLIANCE PROGRAM, AND TODAY

                    WE HAVE A GROUP OF THEM SHADOWING US AS MEMBERS, AND I WAS

                    FORTUNATE TO HAVE EMMA AND ROYAL SHADOW ME.  EMMA IS 21 YEARS

                    OLD, LIVES OUT ON LONG ISLAND, AND THEY'VE SPENT THE DAY SO FAR SEEING

                    WHAT WE DO AS LEGISLATURES [SIC], LEARNING ABOUT CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

                    AND EMMA HAS TOLD ME THAT SHE'S INTERESTED IN NURSING.  SO SHE AND I

                    HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.  WE BOTH ROLLED THROUGH THE HALLS AND THROUGH

                    CHAMBERS WITH OUR STROLLERS AND OUR BABIES, JUST TALKING ABOUT

                    PARENTING AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

                                 AND, MR. SPEAKER, I WOULD LOVE IF YOU GAVE HER THE

                    CORDIALITY OF THE FLOOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. JACKSON, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

                    BOTH HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  HOPE THAT YOU'VE HAD A GREAT DAY SHADOWING,

                    AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE ONE BEAUTIFUL CHILD IN YOUR ARMS.  THANK YOU SO

                    VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. ZACCARO FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

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                                 MR. ZACCARO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  TODAY I

                    RISE TO INTRODUCE ISRAEL WILLIAMS.  HE'S AN INCREDIBLE YOUNG MAN THAT I

                    HAVE THE HONOR OF SPENDING TODAY WITH AS A PART OF THE FOSTER YOUTH

                    SHADOW DAY ON BEHALF OF CHILDREN'S AID AND THE CAUCUS.  ISRAEL JOINS

                    US HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ALBANY, AND HAILS FROM THE GREAT BOROUGH

                    OF THE BRONX.  YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE SHORT TIME THAT HE'S BEEN HERE

                    TODAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT WE DO HERE

                    TODAY AND WHAT THE WORK OF A LEGISLATOR IS, AND ISRAEL HAS BEEN ABLE TO

                    TALK WITH ME ABOUT WHAT HIS EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN LIKE, BEING IMPACTED

                    AS A YOUNG PERSON IN THE FOSTER SYSTEM AND HOW WE, AS STATE

                    LEGISLATORS, CAN MAKE SURE AND ENSURE THAT FUTURES LIKE ISRAEL AND YOUNG

                    PEOPLE LIKE HIM CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY FLOURISH IN THE FUTURE.  YOU

                    KNOW, MENTORSHIP IS ESSENTIAL TO MOLDING NEW YORK'S NEXT GENERATION

                    OF LEADERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO YEARN TO ANSWER THE CALL OF PUBLIC

                    SERVICE.  AND, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING TO ISRAEL, ISRAEL HAS A BRIGHT VISION

                    FOR THE FUTURE AS SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO DEVELOP AN APP AND -- AND BE A

                    COMPETITOR FOR BIG COMPANIES LIKE UBER.  AND I'M -- I'M ESPECIALLY

                    EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE WORLD -- WHAT HE WILL OFFER TO THIS -- TO THIS

                    STATE AND TO THE WORLD WITH THE VISION AND THE GOALS THAT HE HAS FOR THE

                    FUTURE.

                                 SO, MR. SPEAKER, TODAY IF YOU COULD WELCOME HIM TO

                    THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE AND EXTEND TO HIM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR, I

                    WOULD BE MOST GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR THAT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. ZACCARO, ISRAEL, WELCOME HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE

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                    ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  OUR THANKS

                    FOR YOU JOINING US TODAY.  YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A GREAT MEMBER TO

                    SHADOW.  WE HOPE THAT YOU'VE LEARNED A LOT AND THAT YOU CONSIDER

                    PUBLIC SERVICE ALONG WITH THAT APP INVENTION THAT YOU MAY BE

                    CONSIDERING AS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN PURSUE IN YOUR LIFE.  THANK

                    YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES FOR THE PURPOSE OF A

                    ANNOUNCEMENT.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, WOULD YOU

                    PLEASE HAVE THE CODES COMMITTEE TO GO TO THE SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE

                    ROOM?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  CODES

                    COMMITTEE, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY.

                                 PAGE 12, RULES REPORT NO. 302, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07430, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 302, PEOPLES-STOKES, LUPARDO, BRONSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    CANNABIS LAW, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING CERTAIN AUTHORIZATIONS TO

                    MINIMALLY PROCESS AND DISTRIBUTE CANNABIS PRODUCTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 BUT WE WILL WAIT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT IN

                    AND AROUND THE CHAMBER.  PLEASE, WE WILL BE ON DEBATE, AND IF YOU CAN

                    SETTLE PEOPLE DOWN.

                                 (PAUSE)

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                                 LET'S MAKE SURE THOSE DOORS IN THE BACK ARE CLOSED SO

                    WE CAN HEAR THE MEMBER EXPLAIN THE BILL.  AND PLEASE TAKE THOSE

                    PICTURES QUIETLY IN THE CORNER BACK THERE, PLEASE.  THANK YOU.

                                 PROCEED, MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THIS BILL IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ADULT

                    USE CANNABIS MARKET BY EXTENDING THE CONDITIONAL ADULT USE CULTIVATOR

                    AND CONDITIONAL ADULT USE PROCESSORS FOR ANOTHER YEAR, FROM JUNE THE

                    23RD TO 24 [SIC].

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BROWN.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD FOR SOME QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  YES, OF COURSE, MR.

                    SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS,

                    SIR.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YIELDING

                    FOR SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL.  I WANTED TO ASK YOU, IN

                    CONNECTION WITH THE ROLLOUT OF LEGALIZING CANNABIS, ORIGINALLY WE

                    CONTEMPLATED THAT THESE ADULT USE CULTIVATION DISPENSARY LICENSES

                    WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY NOW AND BE SENT OUT TO APPLICANTS BY NOW,

                    CORRECT, AND IT'S GOING TO EXPIRE NEXT MONTH?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WELL, ACTUALLY, I

                    ANTICIPATED THAT AS WELL, SIR --

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                                 MR. K. BROWN:  SO --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  -- BUT SOMETIMES, MOST

                    OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAPPEN IN THAT ORDER.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  UNDERSTOOD.  SO ORIGINALLY, WHEN

                    WE PASSED THE MRTA, HOW LONG A PERIOD OF TIME DID THE CCD HAVE TO

                    GET UP AND RUNNING AND GET THESE LICENSES SET?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WELL, IN THE ORIGINAL

                    LEGISLATION I DON'T BELIEVE WE PUT A TIME FRAME ON WHEN WE ANTICIPATED

                    THAT THE DISPENSARIES WOULD BE OPEN.  BUT FROM OUR RESEARCH, YOU

                    KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER STATES HAVE DONE, WHAT OTHER

                    COUNTRIES HAVE DONE, IT GENERALLY TAKES TWO TO TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS

                    AFTER THE PASSAGE OF LEGALIZATION TO ACTUALLY HAVE LEGAL SALES HAPPENING.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  RIGHT.  BUT GOOD THING FOR NEW

                    YORK, WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF SEEING WHAT OTHER STATES HAD DONE WITH

                    RESPECT TO THEIR ROLLOUT, AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST COLORADO AND

                    CALIFORNIA, I'M TALKING ABOUT NEARBY STATES LIKE VERMONT AND

                    MASSACHUSETTS, CORRECT?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THE BOARD WASN'T

                    APPOINTED -- WELL, WE -- WE -- I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, MR. BROWN,

                    BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE.  WE APPROVED THIS LEGISLATION IN MARCH OF '21.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  RIGHT.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THERE WAS NOT EVEN A

                    BOARD IN PLACE UNTIL OCTOBER OF '21.  NOW, HAD A BOARD BEEN IN PLACE

                    MAYBE BEFORE WE GOT OUT OF SESSION THAT YEAR, MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE

                    WENT A LITTLE QUICKER.  BUT A BOARD WASN'T IN PLACE.  IT WASN'T UNTIL

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                    GOVERNORS WERE CHANGED AND THE NEW GOVERNOR CAME IN AND PUT THE

                    BOARD IN PLACE.  ONCE THE BOARD WAS IN PLACE SHE ALSO PUT THE AGENCIES'

                    EXECUTIVES IN PLACE.  AND THIS IS A BRAND-NEW AGENCY, THE STATE OF NEW

                    YORK HAS NEVER OPERATED A CANNABIS -- OFFICE OF CANNABIS

                    MANAGEMENT BEFORE.  IT NEVER OPERATED THE MEDICAL SIDE OF IT AND THE

                    HEMP SIDE OF IT ALL IN ONE AGENCY.  AND SO THIS WAS A CREATION OF A

                    BRAND-NEW AGENCY, AND SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE LONGER, PARTICULARLY

                    WHEN YOU ARE INTERRUPTED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU'RE

                    REGULATORY DECISION TO FOCUS ON THOSE THAT WERE MORE IMPACTED TO BE

                    THE LICENSEES GETS CHALLENGED IN COURT.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  RIGHT.  AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT,

                    EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT I STOOD HERE ON THE FLOOR AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT

                    BACK THEN.  I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT I THOUGHT THE WAY WE WERE

                    GOING ABOUT IT, NEW YORK STATE WAS BACKWARDS AND THAT WE SHOULD

                    HAVE CONTEMPLATED THESE THINGS.  AND, IN FACT, WE'RE SEEING WITH THE

                    ROLLOUT NOW HAS BEEN ATROCIOUS, AND ALL THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT HERE

                    AND THAT WE CALLED FOR AND WE WARNED ABOUT ARE NOW COMING TO

                    FRUITION, AND WE'RE NOW EXTENDING THIS YET ANOTHER YEAR.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  YES, WE ARE EXTENDING IT

                    ANOTHER YEAR, SIR.  (INAUDIBLE)

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  OKAY.  AND THE FACT IS WE'RE

                    EXTENDING IT, RIGHT, WITHOUT -- TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO DON'T HOLD A LICENSE,

                    PROVIDED THAT THE LICENSEE COMPLIES WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.  SO

                    THAT'S -- THE CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD IS REVIEWING THOSE LICENSES, THEN?

                    AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO PROCESS --

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                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE

                    ANSWERING YOUR OWN QUESTIONS, SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD ASK IT AGAIN.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  ALL RIGHT.  SO, I JUST WANT MY

                    FELLOW MEMBERS AND COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE

                    VOTING FOR; THAT WITHOUT THIS, PEOPLE ARE GETTING LICENSES THAT ARE BEING

                    REVIEWED BY THE CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD THAT HASN'T DONE THIS ALREADY

                    IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, AND WE'RE GIVING THEM ANOTHER YEAR TO

                    REVIEW THESE AND GET THESE DONE; IS THAT CORRECT?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  NO.  WHAT'S CORRECT IS

                    THAT WE'RE -- WE'RE OFFERING THE FARMING COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE

                    PROCESSING COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THEIR CONDITIONAL

                    LICENSE.  THEIR LICENSES WERE CONDITIONAL WHEN WE PASSED IT.  IT'S STILL

                    CONDITIONAL.  BUT WE RAN, HONESTLY, OUT OF THE TIME THAT THEY HAD FOR

                    CONDITION, AND I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO GIVE THEM AN ADDITIONAL YEAR TO

                    FIGURE OUT HOW CAN THEY GET THEIR PRODUCTS INTO THESE STORES.  NOW,

                    THERE ARE, I WANT TO SAY, 12 OF THEM ALREADY OPENED.  I BELIEVE THE

                    OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT WILL BE HAVING ANOTHER BOARD MEETING

                    IMMINENTLY.  AND, BY, I WOULD SAY THE END OF THE SUMMER, EVERYBODY

                    WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR A CARD WILL HAVE A --A LICENSE.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  RIGHT.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  NOW, HOW LONG WILL IT

                    TAKE FOR THEM TO GET INTO A STORE, AND FOR THE FARMERS WHO HAVE ALREADY

                    GROWN THE PRODUCT FOR THEM TO SELL, PROCESSORS WHO HAVE ALREADY

                    PREPARED PRODUCTS FOR THEM TO SELL, HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE?  I DON'T

                    KNOW.  BUT I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED US OUT ARE DUE AN

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                    OPPORTUNITY TO BE EXTENDED.  THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED THE

                    GROWTH PROCESS, WHO STARTED THE PROCESSING PROCESS, AND THERE IS NOT

                    ENOUGH STORES OPEN YET TO DEAL WITH THEIR PRODUCTS.  I THINK WE OWE

                    THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  SO, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 12 THAT ARE

                    OPEN.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  YES.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  DO WE KNOW HOW MANY

                    APPLICATIONS ARE IN RIGHT NOW FOR PROCESSING?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WE HAVE 40 CONDITIONAL

                    PROCESSORS AT THE MOMENT --

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  OKAY.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: -- THAT HAVE LICENSES.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  RIGHT.  AND IN THE MEANTIME,

                    WHILE WE'RE PROCESSING THAT, THERE'S PLENTY OF ILLEGAL SALES THAT'S

                    HAPPENING ON STOREFRONTS ALL OVER THE STATE, CORRECT?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  OKAY, SO IF WE WANT TO

                    TALK ABOUT THIS BILL OR DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BILL THAT DEALS WITH

                    ENFORCEMENT, WHICH I THINK WE DID THAT DURING THE BUDGET, THE

                    ENFORCEMENT ISSUE HAS BEEN HANDLED, AND IT WILL TAKE TIME TO

                    IMPLEMENT THAT ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WORK AT

                    THEIR OWN SPEED.  AND, QUITE HONESTLY, EVERYBODY WHO HAS AN ILLICIT

                    BUSINESS OPEN, THEY WILL EITHER BE PAYING HUGE TAXES AND CLOSE, THEIR

                    BUILDINGS WILL BE SHUT DOWN, THEY WOULD BE PADLOCKED.  AND SO I -- I --

                    THAT IS NOT THE CONCERN RIGHT NOW.  THE CONCERN RIGHT NOW WITH THIS

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                    PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY PUT IN, THROUGH

                    THEIR SWEAT EQUITY IN GROWING THIS PLANT AND PROCESSING IT INTO A

                    USEABLE PRODUCT.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  RIGHT.  WITH RESPECT, I THINK THIS IS

                    VERY RELEVANT TO THE BILL, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IS THAT

                    THE FACT IS WE HAVE JUST IN MY DISTRICT ALONE, RECENTLY SUFFOLK COUNTY

                    PD ISSUED EIGHT VAPE STORES CITATIONS FOR ILLEGALLY SELLING MARIHUANA.

                    AND IT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.  I HEARD

                    AS MANY AS 1,400 STORES ARE ILLEGALLY SELLING MARIHUANA AND IN THE TIME

                    THAT IT TAKES US TO -- TO GET THESE REGULATIONS IN.  AND TO YOUR POINT, I

                    JUST HEARD ON THE NEWS TODAY THAT THE CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD JUST

                    PASSED EMERGENCY REGULATIONS TO COMBAT THE ILLEGAL SALES; ISN'T THAT

                    CORRECT?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY

                    SHOULD BE DOING, THEY'RE MOVING THINGS FORWARD.

                                 MR. K BROWN:  RIGHT.  BUT THIS CHAMBER VOTED TO

                    LEGALIZE WITHOUT THE PROPER PROCESS IN PLACE TO MAKE THESE APPLICATIONS

                    AND GIVE THESE APPLICATIONS OUT TO PEOPLE.  IN THE MEANTIME, ALL THESE

                    ILLEGAL SALES IS HAPPENING.  AND THAT'S -- THAT'S ALSO TAX REVENUE THAT THE

                    STATE IS NOT COLLECTING; ISN'T THAT CORRECT?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THAT'S RIGHT, BUT WE WILL

                    BE COLLECTING IT MOMENTARILY.  TAX AND FINANCE HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED AS

                    A RESULT OF THE BUDGET THAT WE PASSED WITH AN ENFORCEMENT PIECE FOR

                    CANNABIS IN IT.  TAX AND FINANCE HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED TO GO INTO THESE

                    PLACES, ILLEGAL OR NOT, COULD BE A CORNER STORE THAT HAS A LOTTERY MACHINE

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                    IN IT.  WHOEVER IS DOING THE SELLING OF PRODUCT, ILLEGAL -- ILLEGALLY, TAX

                    AND FINANCE HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED TO GO IN AND COLLECT OUR MONEY THAT

                    THEY'VE BEEN COLLECTING ILLEGALLY.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  AND I APPRECIATE --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  I WANT TO ADD THIS, TOO,

                    MR. BROWN, BECAUSE I THINK THERE -- IT'S NECESSARY TO BRING SOME CLARITY

                    TO OUR DEBATE AND TO YOUR ARGUMENT IN A LOT OF WAYS, IS THESE OTHER

                    STATES THAT WENT LEGAL, IT TOOK THEM TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS FROM THE TIME

                    THAT THEY PASSED SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REGULATE IT, TO GET A

                    STORE OPENED.  THE ONLY THING THAT HAPPENED DIFFERENT IN NEW YORK

                    THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THOSE STATES IS THAT THE AGENCY, THE OFFICE OF

                    CANNABIS MANAGEMENT AND THEIR CONTROL BOARD DECIDED TO USE THEIR

                    OPPORTUNITY AS REGULATORS TO REGULATE HOW LICENSES WERE GOING TO BE

                    ISSUED BEFORE THEY ISSUED THEM TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  AND IN THAT

                    REGULATION THEY CREATED SOMETHING CALLED A CARD.  IT'S A CONDITION --

                    CONDITIONAL LICENSING FOR ADULT DISPENSARY RETAIL.  AND IN DOING THAT,

                    THE PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST CRACK AT THIS

                    INDUSTRY IN NEW YORK DID NOT.  THE PEOPLE WHO WERE MOST IMPACTED

                    GOT THE FIRST CRACK.  AND THAT TAKE TIMES, THAT GETS YOU INTO COURT, THAT

                    GETS YOU ALL KIND OF DEFENSIVE LANGUAGE AND OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO SHUT

                    DOWN THE PROCESS AS IT'S MOVING FORWARD.  AND SO I -- I HEAR WHAT

                    YOU'RE SAYING, AND I HEAR THIS FROM CONSTITUENCIES ALL OVER BUFFALO.  I

                    TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE RIGHT HERE IN ALBANY THIS MORNING WHO ARE CARD

                    ELIGIBLE THAT DON'T HAVE A LICENSE YET, WHO THINK THAT THINGS SHOULD BE

                    MOVING FASTER.  BUT I'M JUST SAYING THE THING THAT NEW YORK HAS DONE

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                    DIFFERENT THAN NO OTHER STATE HAS DONE IS IT PUT SOME PRIORITIES ON WHERE

                    THE LICENSES WILL GO FIRST.  THAT WAS TO OUR FARMERS, UNDER CONDITIONAL

                    LICENSING THERE WAS TWO ELIGIBLE PROCESSORS UNDER PROCESSING LICENSES,

                    AND THAT WAS TO PEOPLE WHO WERE JUST AS IMPACTED FOR A RETAIL LICENSE.

                                 MR. K.  BROWN:  WELL, I GUESS MY POINT IS THERE

                    WERE CERTAINLY SEVERAL OTHER WAYS WE COULD HAVE WENT ABOUT IT.  WE

                    HAD A MEDICAL MARIHUANA PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE.  WE

                    COULD HAVE EXPANDED THAT WHILE -- WHILE WORKING ON CULTIVATION,

                    DISPENSING AND SMOKING LOUNGES AND -- AND MAKING THOSE AVAILABLE.

                    IN FACT, WHERE ARE --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WOULD HAVE, SHOULD

                    HAVE, COULD HAVE.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  WHERE ARE WE WITH RESPECT TO ANY

                    REGULATIONS AS FAR AS LOUNGES ARE CONCERNED AND PEOPLE SMOKING ON

                    PREMISE?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  I DON'T THINK THERE'S

                    ANYTHING IN THIS LEGISLATION THAT SPEAKS TO THAT, SIR.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  OKAY.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME

                    LEGISLATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CRAFT THAT SPEAKS TO THE ISSUES THAT

                    CONCERN YOU, THEN YOU SHOULD DO THAT.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  MADAM MAJORITY LEADER, I WOULD

                    LOVE TO MEET WITH YOU.  I HAVE A SLEW OF LEGISLATION THAT'S GEARED

                    TOWARDS PROTECTING --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?

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                    LET -- LET'S TALK.  LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN,

                    BECAUSE IN FACT, YOU DID NOT EVEN WANT IT TO BE LEGALIZED.  BUT IT IS

                    NOW, AND SO WE HAVE TO GO FROM THAT REALITY.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  LET ME JUST CORRECT YOU.  I VOTED

                    AGAINST IT, AND I VOTED AGAINST IT FOR VERY GOOD REASONS.  AND THE

                    REASONS WERE I THOUGHT THE BILL WAS EXTREMELY WEAK WHEN IT CAME TO

                    PROTECTING KIDS UNDER 21 FOR STARTING TO USE AND TO USE MARIHUANA,

                    BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED MARIHUANA USE DISORDER THAT IS BEING

                    RECOGNIZED UNDER THE DSM SYSTEM AS A PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPAIRMENT.

                    AND WE ALSO KNOW THERE WAS A REPORT THAT JUST CAME OUT FROM

                    SCANDINAVIA THE OTHER DAY THAT TALKED ABOUT UNDERAGE SMOKING AND THE

                    DANGERS THAT IT HAS ON CHILDREN PSYCHOLOGICALLY.  SO WE'LL SAVE THAT FOR

                    ANOTHER DAY.  BUT I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  GREAT.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  -- WITH RESPECT TO THESE RIGHTS IN

                    PARTICULAR.  IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN AMEND THIS BILL TO ALLOW FOR

                    CHILDREN WHO ARE STARTING TO SMOKE TO GO IN DIVERSION PROGRAMS TO

                    LEARN ABOUT THE DANGERS OF MARIHUANA AND MARIHUANA USE DISORDER?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  IS THERE ANY WAY TO

                    AMEND THIS BILL?  SIR, THERE ARE ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO AMEND BILLS, BUT

                    THIS ONE WON'T BE AMENDED TODAY.  AND WE HAVE GOTTEN THE APPROVAL

                    FROM THE ORGANIZED ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE FARMERS.  WE HAVE GOTTEN

                    APPROVAL FROM THE ORGANIZED FOLKS AROUND THE PROCESSORS, WE HAVE

                    GOTTEN THE APPROVAL FROM OCM, WE'VE GOTTEN THE APPROVAL FROM THE

                    SECOND FLOOR, WE'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL FROM THE SENATE.  AND SO WE

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                    REALLY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.  AS YOU KNOW, JUNE -- JUNE 1ST

                    IS TOMORROW, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PUT THEIR WHOLE

                    LIVELIHOODS OUT --

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  I UNDERSTAND.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES: -- TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  THEY PUT THEIR WHOLE LIVELIHOODS

                    (INAUDIBLE/CROSS-TALK) --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  (INAUDIBLE/CROSS-TALK).

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  -- (INAUDIBLE/CROSS-TALK) 19 MILLION

                    OTHER RESIDENTS.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  IF I COULD FINISH

                    ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, SIR.  I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DELAY THEM IN

                    THE INTEREST OF GETTING SOME ADDED AMENDMENTS TO A BILL THAT WE ARE

                    READY TO PASS TODAY.  HOWEVER, IF YOU LIKE, I'M HAPPY TO SIT WITH YOU OR

                    YOU CAN SIT WITH THE PROGRAM AND COUNSEL STAFF HERE AND CRAFT SOME

                    LANGUAGE AROUND THE ISSUE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU AND LET US SEE IF WE

                    CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  I -- I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO DO

                    THAT, BECAUSE I SEE ANOTHER GAPING HOLE IN THIS WHOLE REGULATORY SYSTEM

                    IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED DRIVING WHILE IMPAIRED ON

                    MARIHUANA, YET WE KNOW THAT ACCIDENTS ARE UP AND WE KNOW THAT

                    FATALITIES DUE TO SMOKING AND DRIVING ARE UP.  BUT THAT'S -- WE'LL SAVE

                    THAT FOR ANOTHER DAY.

                                 JUST WITH RESPECT TO THE MONEY, DO WE KNOW HOW

                    MUCH MONEY HAS COME IN THROUGH TAXATION AND FINANCE FROM

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    CANNABIS SALES --

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WE CAN HAVE --

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  -- AND HOW MUCH HAS IT COST THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WE CAN HAVE AMANDA

                    HILLERMAN [SIC], WHO IS THE COMMISSIONER OF TAX AND FINANCE COME IN

                    AND EXPLAIN WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS.  I'D IMAGINE IT'S THE SAME PROCESS

                    THAT THEY USE FOR COLLECTING TAXES ON OTHER BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STATE,

                    LEGAL OR ILLEGAL.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  WELL, ARE WE YET IN THE BLACK WHEN

                    IT COMES TO GENERATING REVENUE FROM THE CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD?

                    ARE WE STILL DEEPLY IN THE RED?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WE -- WE HAVEN'T -- I

                    DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH REVENUE COLLECTED OUT OF 12 STORES,

                    SIR, IN THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY.  NEW YORK, AS YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD

                    TELL THIS JUST BY HOW QUICKLY ALL THE ILLEGAL BUSINESSES POPPED UP.  IT'S

                    THE LARGEST MARKET IN THE WORLD FOR CANNABIS.  AND ONCE IT'S STRUCTURED,

                    INCLUDING THE ENFORCEMENT CAPACITIES OF THE TAX AND FINANCE

                    DEPARTMENT, IT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO ALL OF US.  AND THERE ALREADY

                    IS, IN THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATION UNDER MRTA, OPPORTUNITIES TO PROTECT

                    CHILDREN.  WELL, THERE ISN'T A REQUIREMENT FOR EDUCATION PROCESS.

                    THEY'RE -- THEY'RE ALL SORTS OF REQUIREMENT THAT ARE STILL -- HAVEN'T ALL

                    BEEN MET YET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THERE YET.  AND I -- I -- AGAIN, I -- I

                    UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, I RESPECT THEM AND I APPRECIATE IT.  BUT I'M

                    ASKING FOR COLLEAGUES WHO ARE IN THE CHAMBERS TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    BILL, SUPPORT OUR FARMERS WHO HAVE ALREADY EXTENDED, SOME OF THEM,

                    THEIR WHOLE LIVELIHOOD AND -- AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY AT LEAST HAVE

                    THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A YEAR TO BE ABLE TO SELL THE STUFF THAT THEY ALREADY

                    HAVE READY.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  SO, I -- I THINK WHAT I HAVE TO SAY

                    WITH THAT IS I THINK MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAID IS DEBATABLE, BUT WE COULD

                    AGREE TO DISAGREE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  WE CAN.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  SO, ON THE BILL, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    GUESS I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO I'M -- I HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT?

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  IT -- IT'S OKAY, SIR.  I DON'T

                    HAVE ANY PROBLEM AGREEING TO DISAGREE.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  GREAT.  SO IF I MAY -- THANK YOU

                    FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  YOU'RE SO WELCOME.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  ON THE BILL, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  THANK YOU, SIR.  MR. SPEAKER, WITH

                    THIS ENTIRE ROLLOUT OF MARIHUANA IT -- IT JUST HAS BEEN A DISASTER FROM DAY

                    ONE.  WE -- WE DIDN'T NEED TO DO IT THIS WAY, I'VE MADE THIS POINT AND

                    I'M GOING TO MAKE IT AGAIN.  WE COULD HAVE JUST EXPANDED MEDICAL

                    MARIHUANA, WE COULD HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER STATES AND DONE A

                    COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS.  BUT THE WAY NEW YORK CHOSE TO DO IT HAS NOT

                    WORKED UP UNTIL THIS DATE, AND YET THIS BILL WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND IT

                    ANOTHER 12 MONTHS TO CONTINUE THE SAME BAD, ASS-BACKWARDS WAY OF

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    DOING IT.  SO AS A BODY I THINK WE OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS OF NEW YORK

                    TO FIX THE CURRENT SYSTEM TO MAKE IT BETTER AND TO PROTECT KIDS AND

                    PROTECT ALL UNDER 21 FROM STARTING TO SMOKE, AND THE MOTORISTS OF OUR

                    STATE FROM BEING IN AN ACCIDENT BY SOMEONE WHO IS -- WHO IS DRIVING

                    AND SMOKING.  COULD I --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON YOUR SECOND 15,

                    MR. BROWN.

                                 MR. K. BROWN:  THANK YOU.  I'LL -- I'LL JUST WRAP UP.

                    YOU KNOW, I -- I'VE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE MAJORITY LEADER ABOUT MEETING,

                    AND I WOULD REQUEST AND REALLY URGE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC

                    HEARINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE CANNABIS CONTROL BOARD AND THE ROLLOUT.

                    MY STAFF HAS WATCHED THE ZOOM MEETINGS.  MUCH TO OUR DISMAY IT'S --

                    IT'S A CONFUSED MESS WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THE MEETINGS ARE CONDUCTED

                    AND -- AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS BY BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE BEING

                    MADE.  I'VE BEEN A CRITIC OF THIS BILL SINCE DAY ONE, YOU KNOW, AND I

                    CONTINUE TO BE A CRITIC BECAUSE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE A VOICE OF REASON

                    WHEN IT COMES TO THE USE OF -- OF MARIHUANA IN THIS STATE.  SO, WHAT --

                    WHAT SOMEONE DOES IN THE CONFINES OF THEIR OWN HOME IS THEIR

                    BUSINESS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, MR. SPEAKER, I NEVER HAVE.

                    BUT WHEN IT STARTS TO IMPACT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE STATE, THAT'S WHY I TAKE

                    ISSUE WITH IT AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THIS PIECE OF

                    LEGISLATION, RIGHT?  WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WITH RESPECT TO THE FACT THAT

                    PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SMOKING IN LOUNGES AND THEN GETTING IN A CAR

                    AND DRIVING.  AND I'VE HEARD FOR YEARS, WHY NOT TREAT IT THE SAME AS

                    ALCOHOL, WHY NOT TREAT IT THE SAME AS ALCOHOL?  BUT WE DON'T, AND WE'RE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    NOT NOW, RIGHT?  WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE MOONSHINE IN THEIR

                    BATHTUBS ANYMORE, YET WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO CULTIVATE ON THEIR PROPERTY.

                    WE EVEN ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO POSSESS FIVE POUNDS OF WEED,

                    WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A LOT OR A LITTLE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE FIVE

                    POUNDS OF WEED WOULD PROBABLY LAST SOMEBODY ABOUT THREE YEARS.  SO I

                    TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT.  I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT THIS BILL JUST DOESN'T

                    SEEM TO BE COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH TO DO WHAT IT REALLY NEEDS TO DO.

                                 SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE MAJORITY LEADER FOR HER TIME.  I'M VOTING IN

                    THE NEGATIVE AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME.  THANK YOU VERY

                    MUCH, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  A PARTY VOTE HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THE

                    MINORITY WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION,

                    BUT IF THERE ARE MEMBERS WHO WISH TO VOTE YES THEY CAN DO SO AT THEIR

                    SEATS.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION; HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE SOME OF US THAT WOULD

                    LIKE TO BE AN EXCEPTION.  YOU CAN DO SO BY VOTING FROM OUR SEAT.

                    THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MA'AM.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 14, RULES REPORT NO. 349, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05088-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 349, REYES, ANDERSON, CARROLL, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, EPSTEIN,

                    GLICK, L. ROSENTHAL, SIMON, DICKENS, TAPIA, JEAN-PIERRE, SILLITTI.  AN

                    ACT TO ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE ON MISSING WOMEN AND GIRLS WHO ARE

                    BLACK, INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF

                    SUCH PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    REYES, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05121-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 350, STIRPE, MAGNARELLI, DICKENS, LUPARDO, GUNTHER,

                    MCDONALD.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    SUPERVISING THE TRANSFILLING OF MEDICAL OXYGEN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    STIRPE, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 180TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05167-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 351, TAGUE.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY OF OTSEGO TO IMPOSE AN ADDITIONAL MORTGAGE

                    RECORDING TAX; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS UPON

                    EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  HOME RULE MESSAGE

                    IS AT THE DESK.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, WILL YOU

                    PLEASE CALL THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE TO THE SPEAKER'S

                    CONFERENCE ROOM?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  THANK

                    YOU.  WAYS AND MEANS, SPEAKER'S CONFERENCE ROOM IMMEDIATELY,

                    PLEASE.

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05255, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 352, SHIMSKY, BURDICK, SAYEGH, DESTEFANO, REYES.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO ENACTING THE "STAR CREDIT BILL OF

                    RIGHTS" AND ESTABLISHING THE OFFICE OF STAR OMBUDSMAN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    SHIMSKY, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY FIRST.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05288, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 353, HAWLEY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO PERMITTING THE ELECTRONIC APPEARANCE OF A DEFENDANT IN THE

                    COUNTY OF ORLEANS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  ON A MOTION BY

                    HAWLEY [SIC], THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05334, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 354, PALMESANO.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO GRANTING PEACE OFFICER STATUS TO ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS OF

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    THE COUNTY OF SCHUYLER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05371, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 355, BENDETT.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO DESIGNATING THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER IN THE TOWN OF SAND

                    LAKE AS A PEACE OFFICER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. BENDETT ON HIS FIRST BILL.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05409, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 356, GUNTHER, BUTTENSCHON, NORRIS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE

                    AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION TO THE SOLICITATION OF DONATIONS ON STATE

                    HIGHWAYS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL HAS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05505, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 357, L. ROSENTHAL.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO DIRECTING THE NEW YORK STATE INTERAGENCY TASK FORCE ON

                    HUMAN TRAFFICKING TO INVESTIGATE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN SOCIAL MEDIA

                    AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    ROSENTHAL, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

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                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05520, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 358, KIM, REYES, AUBRY, WILLIAMS, WALKER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    ELDER LAW, IN RELATION O THE NATURALLY-OCCURRING RETIREMENT

                    COMMUNITY SUPPORTIVE SERVICE PROGRAM; IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE

                    STUDY OF THE NUMBER OF SENIOR CITIZENS RESIDING IN NATURALLY-OCCURRING

                    RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM LONELINESS AND SOCIAL

                    ISOLATION; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS UPON THE

                    EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    KIM, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05627, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 359, SEAWRIGHT, SHIMSKY, SIMONE, LUNSFORD, SIMON, L.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    ROSENTHAL, GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS, GLICK, BRONSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

                    TO CONDUCT A PUBIC INFORMATION AND OUTREACH CAMPAIGN ON MEDICALLY

                    UNNECESSARY TREATMENTS ON PERSONS BORN WITH INTERSEX TRAITS OR

                    VARIATIONS IN SEX CHARACTERISTICS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    SEAWRIGHT, THE BILL -- THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE

                    BILL IS ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05673, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 360, EACHUS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE HIGHWAY LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    DESIGNATING A PORTION OF THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM AS THE "CATHOLIC

                    WAR VETERANS MEMORIAL HIGHWAY."

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05679, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 361, PHEFFER AMATO, SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY LAW, IN RELATION TO ELIGIBILITY FOR

                    RETIREMENT BENEFITS FOR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05716, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 362, PHEFFER AMATO, FALL, COLTON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY LAW, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A

                    25-YEAR RETIREMENT PLAN FOR FIREFIGHTERS EMPLOYED BY THE DIVISION OF

                    MILITARY AND NAVAL AFFAIRS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    2024.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    RISE JUST TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE ON THIS BILL.  I AM NOT OPPOSED TO

                    ENHANCING OR IMPROVING BENEFITS, BUT IT IS MY BELIEF THAT BENEFITS

                    SHOULD BE -- SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.  OUR

                    FRIENDS IN -- IN THE ORGANIZED LABOR VEHEMENTLY PROTECT THE RIGHT TO

                    COLLECTIVELY BARGAIN, AND THIS IS WHERE A BENEFIT LIKE THIS SHOULD BE --

                    SHOULD BE AWARDED.  IT'S NOT UNFAIR NOR IS IT UNREASONABLE TO ASK FOR

                    SOMETHING TO BE PUT ON THE TABLE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THIS BENEFIT

                    TO TAXPAYERS, AND FOR THAT REASON I VOTE IN THE NEGATIVE.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  MR. FITZPATRICK IN

                    THE NEGATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05717-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 363, OTIS, PAULIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE CITY OF NEW ROCHELLE TO

                    IMPOSE AN ADDITIONAL SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAX.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  ON A MOTION BY THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    SENATE [SIC], THE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED.

                    HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER EACHUS:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05755-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 364, BLANKENBUSH, BARCLAY, GRAY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY OF JEFFERSON TO IMPOSE

                    ADDITIONAL SALES TAX.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BLANKENBUSH, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE GUESTS THAT ARE IN OUR

                    CHAMBERS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SHH.  WE NEED A LITTLE

                    QUIET, PLEASE.  MEMBERS TAKE THEIR SEATS.  TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUT

                    OF THE CHAMBER.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYWOMAN JAIME WILLIAMS AND THE

                    LEGISLATIVE CARIBBEAN MEMBERS, IN HONOR OF CARIBBEAN AMERICAN

                    HERITAGE MONTH WE WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TWO CONSUL GENERALS; THE

                    HONORABLE MACKIE HOLDER WAS APPOINTED TO BARBADOS CONSUL GENERAL

                    TO NEW YORK IN OCTOBER OF 2018.  HE IS FROM ST. PETER'S ON BARBADOS

                    AND HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN PROMOTING BARBADOS.  HIS ROLE AS

                    BARBADOS CONSUL GENERAL TO NEW YORK, IN HIS ROLE THE HONORABLE MR.

                    MACKIE HOLDER REACHED OUT TO NEW YORK CITY MEDIA AND

                    ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTING PEOPLE OF THE DIASPORA, AS WELL AS BLACK

                    AMERICANS, TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE

                    INFORMATION AND HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT BARBADOS.  WE ALSO HAVE THE

                    HONORABLE ALSION WILSON ROACH [SIC].  MRS. WILSON ROACH [SIC] IS

                    CURRENTLY JAMAICA'S 11TH CONSUL GENERAL TO NEW YORK.  MR. SPEAKER,

                    BY THE WAY, I'M SURE SHE MUST KNOW OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE, NOW

                    AMBASSADOR, NICK PERRY.  UNDER HER JURISDICTION SHE ASSUMES THE

                    RESPONSIBILITIES FOR JAMAICA'S NATIONAL AND INTERESTS FOR 33 STATES WITHIN

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    THE UNITED STATES PLUS BERMUDA AND PUERTO RICO.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUES, WOULD YOU

                    PLEASE EXTEND THE PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR AND OFFER THEM THE CORDIALITIES

                    OF OUR HOUSE?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, MS. WILLIAMS, THE SPEAKER, ALL MEMBERS OF

                    CARIBBEAN HERITAGE HERE AND THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLY, WE EXTEND TO YOU

                    THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  OUR THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY BOTH

                    FROM BARBADOS AND JAMAICA.  PLEASE KNOW THAT THE UNION THAT YOU HAVE

                    WITH THIS LEGISLATOR -- LEGISLATURE IS STRONG AND ALWAYS INTACT.  KNOW

                    THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE, AND ONE DAY HOPE TO YOU SEE ON THE

                    ISLANDS.  TAKE CARE.  THANK YOU SO MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05773-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 365, HAWLEY.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 579 OF THE LAWS

                    OF 2004, AMENDING THE TAX LAW RELATING TO AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY OF

                    GENESEE TO IMPOSE A COUNTY RECORDING TAX ON OBLIGATION SECURED BY A

                    MORTGAGE ON REAL PROPERTY, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    HAWLEY, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05783-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 366, BRONSON.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE TOWN

                    OF HENRIETTA, COUNTY OF MONROE, TO ALIENATE CERTAIN LANDS USED AS

                    PARKLAND AND TO DEDICATE CERTAIN OTHER LANDS AS PARKLANDS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BRONSON, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05792, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 367, STERN.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 431 OF THE LAWS OF 2018

                    RELATING TO AUTHORIZING THE STATE COMMISSIONER OF TRANSPORTATION TO

                    CONVEY REAL PROPERTY TO THE TOWN OF HUNTINGTON, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK, IN

                    RELATION TO EXTENDING CERTAIN PROVISIONS.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  HOME RULE MESSAGE

                    IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05814-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 368, BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE HIGHWAY LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO DESIGNATING A PORTION OF THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM IN THE

                    TOWN OF LEWISBORO AS THE "JOHN JAY HIGH SCHOOL VETERANS MEMORIAL

                    HIGHWAY."

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BURDICK, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05869-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 369 WAS PREVIOUSLY AMENDED ON THIRD READING AND IS

                    HIGH.


                                 ASSEMBLY NO. A05897-B, RULES REPORT NO. 370,

                    RIVERA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE HIGHWAY LAW, IN RELATION TO DESIGNATING

                    A PORTION OF THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM AS THE "TROOPER WILLIAM P.

                    KEANE MEMORIAL BRIDGE."

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05960, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 371, SOLAGES, CHANDLER-WATERMAN, DARLING.  AN ACT TO ESTABLISH A

                    TASK FORCE TO IDENTIFY EVIDENCE-BASED AND EVIDENCE-INFORMED SOLUTIONS

                    TO REDUCE CHILDREN'S EXPOSURE TO ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A05969, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 372, WILLIAMS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO CERTAIN NOTICES FOR PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF TAXES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. 6 --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. WALSH FOR THE

                    PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER,

                    FOR ALLOWING ME TO INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS FOR AN INTRODUCTION.

                    TODAY -- THIS IS ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER DIPIETRO.  TODAY WE'RE

                    JOINED BY GUESTS FROM THE ALBANY ARMY RECRUITING BATTALION

                    HEADQUARTERED AT THE WATERVLIET ARSENAL IN I THINK THAT'S MR.

                    MCDONALD'S DISTRICT, I BELIEVE.  ANYWAY, WE'RE JOINED TODAY BY

                    MICHAEL HUTCHINSON, KYLE MATUS, DAVID WILLIAMS, JEREMY BECKER AND

                    SANTOS LOPEZ.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 WOULD YOU PLEASE WELCOME THEM TO THE CHAMBER AND

                    AFFORD TO THEM THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR?  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. WALSH, MR. DIPIETRO, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE

                    WELCOME YOU GENTLEMEN HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY,

                    EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

                    AND CONTINUING SERVICE.  YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.  I HOPE YOU

                    HAVE ENJOYED YOUR DAY WITH US.  KNOW YOU CAN ALWAYS RETURN.  THANK

                    YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06029, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 373, PAULIN, COLTON, OTIS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE SOCIAL SERVICES

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO COVERAGE FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY SCHOOL-BASED

                    HEALTH CENTERS FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE RECIPIENTS; AND TO AMEND PART JJ

                    OF CHAPTER 57 OF THE LAWS OF 2021 AMENDING THE SOCIAL SERVICES LAW

                    RELATING TO MANAGED CARE PROGRAMS, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS

                    THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06081, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 374, PHEFFER AMATO, STERN, COLTON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    RETIREMENT AND SOCIAL SECURITY LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING

                    ACCIDENTAL DISABILITY RETIREMENT FOR DEPUTY SHERIFFS IN NASSAU COUNTY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  HOME RULE MESSAGE

                    IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    AGAIN, WHILE I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IMPROVING EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, IT IS

                    MY FIRM BELIEF THAT A BENEFIT ENHANCEMENT LIKE THIS SHOULD BE

                    NEGOTIATED AT THE BARGAINING TABLE AND SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN AWAY FREELY.

                    AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG NOR -- NOT UNFAIR OR UNREASONABLE TO ASK FOR

                    SOMETHING TO BE PUT ON THE TABLE IN RETURN FOR SUCH A GENEROUS BENEFIT

                    TO SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE TAXPAYERS.

                                 SO FOR THAT REASON I'LL BE VOTING IN THE NEGATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. FITZPATRICK IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06113-B, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 375, CARROLL, LEVENBERG, COLTON, SIMON, DICKENS.  AN ACT

                    TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO UPDATING AND

                    MODIFYING THE TAX ABATEMENTS FOR CERTAIN SOLAR AND ELECTRIC STORAGE

                    SYSTEMS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06142-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 376, BRONSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY OF MONROE TO IMPOSE

                    CERTAIN SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAXES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BRONSON, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06164, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 377, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    FINANCIAL GUARANTY INSURANCE SINGLE-RISK LIMITS FOR MUNICIPAL OBLIGATION

                    BONDS, SPECIAL REVENUE BONDS AND SIMILAR OBLIGATIONS OF DEBT ISSUERS IN

                    HIGHLY-RATED MEMBER COUNTRIES OF THE ORGANISATION OF ECONOMIC

                    COOPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06246-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 378, PRETLOW.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    REVISING THE PERIOD OF AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER'S

                    ADDITIONAL 1 PERCENT RATE OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAX; AND TO

                    AMEND CHAPTER 272 OF THE LAWS OF 1991, AMENDING THE TAX LAW

                    RELATING TO THE METHOD OF DISPOSITION OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE

                    TAX REVENUE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND ENACTING THE WESTCHESTER

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    COUNTY SPENDING LIMITATION ACT, IN RELATION TO REVISING THE PERIOD OF

                    AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER'S ADDITIONAL 1 PERCENT RATE

                    OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAX.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    PRETLOW, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06385, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 379, HAWLEY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    EXTENDING THE EXPIRATION OF THE AUTHORIZATION TO THE COUNTY OF GENESEE

                    TO IMPOSE AN ADDITIONAL 1 PERCENT SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAX.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    HAWLEY, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06506-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 380, TAPIA, ZACCARO, ALVAREZ, LAVINE, RAJKUMAR, DE LOS

                    SANTOS, SIMONE, REYES, SOLAGES, DICKENS, RIVERA, RAMOS, ARDILA,

                    BUTTENSCHON, FORREST, SHIMSKY, LUCAS, CUNNINGHAM, CRUZ, SIMON,

                    SAYEGH, EPSTEIN, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, BORES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING THE SALE OF XYLAZINE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06551, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 381, CONRAD.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 413 OF THE LAWS OF 2003

                    AMENDING THE LABOR LAW RELATING TO THE SELF-EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE

                    PROGRAM AND OTHER MATTERS, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE EFFECTIVENESS

                    THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06552, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 382, BLANKENBUSH.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    EXTENDING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY OF LEWIS TO IMPOSE AN

                    ADDITIONAL 1 PERCENT OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAXES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BLANKENBUSH, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06558, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 383, HUNTER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO THE

                    IMPOSITION OF AN OCCUPANCY TAX IN THE TOWN OF DEWITT; AND PROVIDING

                    FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  HOME RULE MESSAGE

                    IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06568-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 384 WAS PREVIOUSLY AMENDED.


                                 ASSEMBLY NO. A06570, RULES REPORT NO. 385,

                    LEVENBERG.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING SYSTEM IN THE VILLAGE OF CROTON-ON-HUDSON.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    LEVENBERG, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06591, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 386, KELLES, STECK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    EXTENDING THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE COUNTY OF TOMPKINS TO IMPOSE AN

                    ADDITIONAL 1 PERCENT OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAXES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    KELLES, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06656, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 387, WEINSTEIN, HYNDMAN, EPSTEIN, WALLACE, TAPIA, L. ROSENTHAL,

                    THIELE, MCDONALD, GUNTHER, OTIS, DINOWITZ, CRUZ, HUNTER, KELLES,

                    SAYEGH, COLTON, GLICK, ZEBROWSKI, REYES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL

                    PROPERTY ACTIONS AND PROCEEDINGS LAW, THE REAL PROPERTY LAW, THE

                    CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW AND THE CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN

                    RELATION TO THE THEFT OF REAL PROPERTY AND PROTECTIONS FOR VICTIMS OF REAL

                    PROPERTY THEFT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06691, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 388, BRABENEC, EACHUS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO EXTENDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE COUNTY OF ORANGE TO IMPOSE AN

                    ADDITIONAL RATE OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAXES; AND PROVIDING FOR

                    THE USE OF THE TAX FUNDS COLLECTED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    BRABENEC, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06695, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 389, FAHY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION TO THE

                    IMPOSITION OF SALES AND COMPENSATING USE TAXES BY THE COUNTY OF

                    ALBANY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    FAHY, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED.

                    HOME RULE MESSAGE IS AT THE DESK.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06732, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 390, AUBRY, ROZIC, PHEFFER AMATO, BRAUNSTEIN, SILLITTI.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE HIGHWAY LAW, IN RELATION TO DESIGNATING A PORTION OF THE

                    STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM AS THE "PORT AUTHORITY POLICE OFFICER PAVLOS D.

                    PALLAS MEMORIAL BRIDGE."

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06779-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 391, MCDONALD, FAHY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF CERTAIN MEDICATIONS BY A

                    PHARMACIST; AND TO AMEND CHAPTER 802 OF THE LAWS OF 2022 AMENDING

                    THE EDUCATION RELATING TO THE DEFINITION OF THE PRACTICE OF PHARMACY, IN

                    RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06806, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 392, PHEFFER AMATO, COLTON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CIVIL SERVICE

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO CONTINUATION OF STATE HEALTH BENEFIT PLANS FOR

                    CERTAIN SURVIVORS OF EMPLOYEES OF THE STATE AND/OR OF A POLITICAL

                    SUBDIVISION OR OF A PUBLIC AUTHORITY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06807, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 393, WOERNER, OTIS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO DIGITAL MATERIALS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06960, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 394, DAVILA, SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO ESTABLISH A LATINA SUICIDE

                    PREVENTION TASK FORCE; AND PROVIDES FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS

                    UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    DAVILA, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IN 60 DAYS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07015, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 395, WOERNER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO THE CAPITAL DISTRICT TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A7035-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 396, FAHY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO ESTABLISHING A SPECIAL NEEDS ASSISTED LIVING PROGRAM TO SERVE

                    PERSONS WITH NEURODEGENERATIVE DISEASES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07037-A, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 397, L. ROSENTHAL, OTIS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EDUCATION

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE TEACHERS WITH WRITTEN

                    INFORMATION MATERIAL ON THE USE OF EPINEPHRINE AUTO-INJECTORS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    ROSENTHAL, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07073, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 398, CURRAN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO A LICENSE TO SELL LIQUOR AT RETAIL FOR CONSUMPTION ON

                    CERTAIN PREMISES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07107-B, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 399, SOLAGES, STIRPE, HUNTER, MAGNARELLI, FAHY.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO PERMISSIBLE ACTIVITIES FOR

                    ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS, CONFERENCES, OR OTHER GROUPS OR ORGANIZATIONS

                    WITH AUTHORITY OVER INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS AND THE DEFINITION OF

                    STUDENT-ATHLETE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07112, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 400, PHEFFER AMATO.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE SURROGATE'S COURT

                    PROCEDURE ACT, IN RELATION TO COMPENSATION FOR DEPUTY PUBLIC

                    ADMINISTRATORS IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07121, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 401, ZEBROWSKI.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING THE STATE

                    CEMETERY BOARD TO ACCEPT FROM THE TOWN OF CLARKSTOWN AN

                    APPLICATION FOR FUNDING FROM THE STATE CEMETERY VANDALISM

                    RESTORATION, MONUMENT REPAIR OR REMOVAL AND ADMINISTRATION FUND

                    FOR THREE ABANDONED CEMETERIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07156, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 402, PHEFFER AMATO, COLTON, CUNNINGHAM.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    EDUCATION LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING FOR THE AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT

                    OF EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK ELIGIBLE TO JOIN THE NEW YORK

                                         68



                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    CITY BOARD OF EDUCATION RETIREMENT SYSTEM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1ST,

                    2024.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07165, RULES REPORT

                    403, SOLAGES, L. ROSENTHAL, THIELE, SIMON, COLTON, OTIS, LUPARDO,

                    SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC SERVICE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    UTILITY INTERVENOR REIMBURSEMENT; AND TO AMEND THE STATE FINANCE

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO ESTABLISHING THE UTILITY INTERVENOR ACCOUNT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    SOLAGES, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07189, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 404, DILAN.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 573 OF THE LAWS OF 2011,

                    AMENDING THE CORRECTION LAW RELATING TO THE BOARDING OF OUT OF STATE

                    INMATES AT LOCAL CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE

                    EXPIRATION OF THE PROVISIONS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07255, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 405, ANDERSON, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 673 OF THE

                    LAWS OF 2005, AMENDING THE INSURANCE LAW RELATING TO EXCESS MEDICAL

                    MALPRACTICE INSURANCE, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROVISIONS

                    OF SUCH CHAPTER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07270, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 406, MCDONALD.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO PERMITTING THE CITY OF TROY

                    TO RETROACTIVELY EXTEND A REAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION TO HILLSIDE

                    REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07271, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 407, MCDONALD.  AN ACT IN RELATION TO PERMITTING THE CITY OF TROY

                    TO RETROACTIVELY EXTEND A REAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION TO T.R.I.P.

                    REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07291, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 408, STECK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    EXTENDING AUTHORIZATION FOR CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS FROM FILING

                    REQUIREMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07352, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 409, HUNTER, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO EXTENDING PROVISIONS OF THE PROPERTY/CASUALTY INSURANCE

                    AVAILABILITY ACT AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE NEW YORK PROPERTY INSURANCE

                    UNDERWRITING ASSOCIATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    HUNTER, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07353, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 410, HUNTER, PEOPLES-STOKES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE BANKING LAW,

                    IN RELATION TO AUTHORIZING NEW YORK CHARTERED BANKING INSTITUTIONS TO

                    EXERCISE POWERS AUTHORIZED TO BANKING INSTITUTIONS CHARTERED IN OTHER

                    STATES, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF FINANCIAL

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                       MAY 31, 2023

                    SERVICES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07357, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 411, TAYLOR.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 490 OF THE LAWS OF 2017

                    AMENDING THE INSURANCE LAW RELATING TO LIMITS ON CERTAIN

                    SUPPLEMENTARY INSURANCE, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

                                 OH -- ON A MOTION BY MR. TAYLOR, THE SENATE BILL IS

                    BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID

                    ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07359, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 412, LUCAS, EPSTEIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PRIVATE HOUSING

                    FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO INCREASING THE BONDING AUTHORITY OF THE

                    NEW YORK CITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07364, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 413, OTIS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE

                    SECURITY AND CYBER SECURITY OF CERTAIN CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. OTIS TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. OTIS:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS BILL

                    TIGHTENS UP OUR RULES, OUR STATUTES RELATED TO CYBER-SECURITY BY MAKING

                    IT CLEAR THAT OUR HOMELAND SECURITY AGENCY IN THEIR REVIEW OF ENERGY

                    GENERATING AND TRANSMISSION FACILITIES, STORAGE FACILITIES FOR HAZARDOUS

                    SUBSTANCES, AND COMMERCIAL AVIATION PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS FUEL

                    TRANSMISSION FACILITIES THAT THEY WILL ALSO BE REVIEWING CYBER-SECURITY

                    VULNERABILITIES FOR THOSE AREAS.  IT'S A GOOD WAY TO CLEAN UP AND FURTHER

                    PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.  AND I SEE FROM BROAD SUPPORT ON THE

                    BOARD EVERYONE AGREES SO WE'RE DOING A GOOD THING FOR CYBER-SECURITY.

                    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I VOTE AYE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. OTIS IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

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                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07373, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 414, REYES.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 81 OF THE LAWS OF 1995,

                    AMENDING THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AND OTHER LAWS RELATING TO MEDICAL

                    REIMBURSEMENT AND WELFARE REFORM, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE

                    EFFECTIVENESS OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07383, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 415, MCMAHON.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 307 OF THE LAWS OF

                    2005 AMENDING THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW RELATING TO THE SPECIAL

                    POWERS OF THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL FACILITIES CORPORATION,

                    IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07394, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 416, GLICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO APPLICANTS ELIGIBLE FOR A RENT INCREASE EXEMPTION ORDER AND

                    ABATEMENT OF TAXES PURSUANT TO CERTAIN LOCAL LAW, ORDINANCE OR

                    RESOLUTION IN A CITY WITH A POPULATION OF ONE MILLION OR MORE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07398, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 417, ZEBROWSKI.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO EXTENDING LIMITATIONS ON THE SHIFT BETWEEN CLASSES OF

                    TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE TOWN OF ORANGETOWN, COUNTY OF ROCKLAND.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07399, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 418, ZEBROWSKI.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO EXTENDING LIMITATIONS ON THE SHIFT BETWEEN CLASSES OF

                    TAXABLE PROPERTY IN THE TOWN OF CLARKSTOWN, COUNTY OF ROCKLAND.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07400, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 419, PHEFFER AMATO.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 130 OF THE LAWS OF

                    1998, AMENDING THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW RELATING TO TEMPORARY

                    INVESTMENTS BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, IN RELATION TO EXTENDING THE

                    EXPIRATION OF THE PROVISIONS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07408, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 420, RAMOS.  AN ACT TO AMEND CHAPTER 719 OF THE LAWS OF 1980

                    AMENDING THE LOCAL FINANCE LAW RELATING TO THE PERIOD OF PROBABLE

                    USEFULNESS OF CERTAIN JUDGMENTS, COMPRISED CLAIMS OR SETTLED CLAIMS, IN

                    RELATION TO EXTENDING THE PROVISIONS OF SUCH CHAPTER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  ARE THERE ANY

                    OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07410, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 421, FITZPATRICK, STERN, SILLITTI.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE HIGHWAY

                    LAW, IN RELATION TO DESIGNATING A PORTION OF THE STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM

                    AS THE "PORT AUTHORITY POLICE OFFICER STEVEN J. TURSELLINO MEMORIAL

                    HIGHWAY."

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

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                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, TO

                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  PORT AUTHORITY POLICE OFFICER STEVEN J. TURSELLINO

                    PASSED AWAY ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2013 AT THE AGE OF 45.  OFFICER

                    TURSELLINO DIED AS A RESULT OF CANCER HE DEVELOPED FOLLOWING HIS

                    ASSIGNMENT TO THE SEARCH AND RECOVERY EFFORTS AT THE WORLD TRADE

                    CENTER AFTER THE SEPTEMBER 11TH TERRORIST ATTACKS.  OFFICER TURSELLINO,

                    WHO WAS AS ORIGINALLY SWORN IN AS A MEMBER OF THE NYPD, SPENT THE

                    MAJORITY OF HIS 20-YEAR CAREER WITH THE PORT AUTHORITY POLICE

                    DEPARTMENT.  HE LEFT BEHIND HIS BELOVED WIFE, LISA, AND FOUR BEAUTIFUL

                    CHILDREN, JAKE, RYAN, REGAN, AND THOMAS.  OFFICER TURSELLINO RESIDED

                    IN HAUPPAUGE, MY HOMETOWN, AND BOTH HIS FAMILY AND COLLEAGUES

                    WANTED TO RECOGNIZE HIS SACRIFICE BY RENAMING A PORTION OF A NEW

                    YORK STATE HIGHWAY IN HIS HONOR.  IN CONSULTATION WITH OFFICER

                    TURSELLINO'S FAMILY AND THE LONG ISLAND DOT REGIONAL DIRECTOR'S

                    OFFICE, IT WAS DECIDED THAT NEW YORK STATE ROUTE 111, BOUNDED TO THE

                    NORTH BY NEW YORK STATE ROUTE 347, AND BOUNDED TO THE SOUTH BY

                    NEW YORK STATE ROUTE 454 WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE STRETCH OF

                    ROADWAY.  IN HIS HONOR, I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, MR. SPEAKER, AND MAY

                    GOD BLESS OFFICER TURSELLINO AND HIS FAMILY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  MR. FITZPATRICK IN

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                    THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07431, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 422, WALKER.  AN ACT TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2022

                    AMENDING THE ELECTION LAW RELATING TO ESTABLISHING THE JOHN R. LEWIS

                    VOTING RIGHTS ACT OF NEW YORK, ESTABLISHING RIGHTS OF ACTION FOR

                    DENYING OR ABRIDGING OF THE RIGHT OF ANY MEMBER OF A PROTECTED CLASS TO

                    VOTE, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO LANGUAGE-MINORITY GROUPS, REQUIRING

                    CERTAIN POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO RECEIVE PRECLEARANCE FOR POTENTIAL

                    VIOLATIONS OF THE NYVRA, AND CREATING CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VOTER

                    INTIMIDATION, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S. 1046-E AND

                    A. 6678-E, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  ON A MOTION BY

                    MS. WALKER, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    LAID ASIDE -- THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED AND THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  I AM EXCITED ABOUT OUR PROGRESS HERE TODAY ON GETTING SOME

                    OF THESE BILLS DONE.  I WOULD ASK US TO BRING OUR ATTENTION NOW TO OUR

                    DEBATE LIST, CALENDAR -- FROM CALENDAR NO. 3.  WE'RE GOING TO START WITH

                    RULES REPORT NO. 139 BY MS. ROSENTHAL, FOLLOWED BY CALENDAR NO.

                    171 BY MR. EPSTEIN.  THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CALENDAR NO. 150 BY

                    MS. PAULIN, FOLLOWED BY -- I'M SORRY, MS. PAULIN'S IS CALENDAR NO. 4,

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                    FOLLOWED BY CALENDAR NO. 103 BY MR. DINOWITZ.  IF WE COULD GO IN

                    THAT ORDER, PLEASE, MR. SPEAKER.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  PAGE 5, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 139, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  SENATE NO. S01522, RULES REPORT NO.

                    139, SENATOR PERSAUD (A01296, L. ROSENTHAL).  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    CORRECTION LAW, THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW AND THE TAX LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO REPLACING ALL INSTANCES OF THE WORDS OR VARIATIONS OF THE WORDS

                    FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS AND SANITARY NAPKINS WITH THE WORDS

                    "MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS AND PADS", RESPECTIVELY, OR A VARIATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 38, CALENDAR NO. 171, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04504-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 171, EPSTEIN, CRUZ, SEAWRIGHT, GIBBS, COOK, DINOWITZ, COLTON,

                    GLICK, SANTABARBARA, REYES, SHIMSKY, STERN, CUNNINGHAM, RAGA,

                    ZINERMAN, LEVENBERG, KIM, BORES, ARDILA, GALLAGHER, DICKENS,

                    GONZÁLEZ-ROJAS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN

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                    RELATION TO REQUIRING ONE VOTING MEMBER OF THE METROPOLITAN

                    TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY BE A TRANSIT-DEPENDENT INDIVIDUAL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 29, CALENDAR NO. 4, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00150, CALENDAR NO.

                    4, PAULIN, CRUZ, JEAN-PIERRE, REYES, SAYEGH, DESTEFANO, WALLACE,

                    STECK, TAYLOR, FAHY, JACOBSON, ZEBROWSKI, DINOWITZ, SEAWRIGHT.  AN

                    ACT TO AMEND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION TO THE OPERATION

                    OF ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES BY MINORS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MS. PAULIN.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.  THE LEGISLATION PROMOTES

                    ENHANCED ATV SAFETY FOR MINORS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  MR. TAGUE.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WOULD THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD FOR SOME QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  THE SPONSOR

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                    YIELDS?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  THE SPONSOR

                    YIELDS.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  THANK YOU, MRS. [SIC]PAULIN.  YOU AND

                    I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS BILL PRIOR.  I'M JUST WONDERING, WHAT IS THE

                    DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND TODAY?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I'VE -- I'VE NEVER DEBATED THE BILL.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  I THINK WE MADE -- WE -- WE TALKED

                    ABOUT -- WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH -- WITH REGARDS TO AGRICULTURE.

                    WERE THOSE THINGS --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  THE DEBATE I THINK THAT WE HAD BEFORE

                    HAD TO DO WITH TIRES.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  NO, NO. WE -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS

                    BILL.  WHEN YOU BROUGHT THE BILL TOGETHER, YOU AND I HAD A PRIVATE

                    DISCUSSION --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  OH, OH, WE MIGHT HAVE.  (INAUDIBLE)

                                 MR. TAGUE:  -- ABOUT -- ABOUT AGRICULTURE AND THE

                    USE OF THE -- THESE ATVS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE BILL WITH

                    REGARDS TO THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU AND I HAD.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO MAYBE YOU CAN REMIND ME.  IT'S

                    BEEN AWHILE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR EXACTLY.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  WELL, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION

                    GIVEN TO ALLOWING YOUTHS UNDER 14 TO USE SMALLER, LESS POWERFUL ATVS

                    RATHER THAN JUST SIMPLY RAISING THE AGE?

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                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, RIGHT NOW UNDER THIS BILL SOMEONE

                    WHO'S 14 YEARS OLD COULD OPERATE AN ATV ON AGRICULTURAL LANDS OR

                    ANYWHERE ELSE.  SO, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T SEEM -- YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED

                    YOUNG ENOUGH, FRANKLY, TO ACCOMMODATE ANY -- ANY AGRICULTURAL USE OR

                    ANY USE ANYWHERE.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  WELL, SHOULDN'T THE PARENTS HAVE THE

                    RESPONSIBILITY AND DISCRETION IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THEIR

                    CHILDREN ARE CAPABLE OF OPERATING AN ATV?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, UNDER THIS BILL IF YOU ARE ON YOUR

                    OWN LAND YOU COULD -- A PARENT COULD HAVE THEIR SIX-MONTH-OLD DRIVE

                    THE ATV.  THERE'S NO RESTRICTION FOR AGE WHEN THE PARENT IS ON THE

                    PREMISES WITH THE -- ON THEIR OWN LAND.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  WELL, IF THE ATV CAN BE OPERATED BY A

                    PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 14 ON LANDS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE PARENTS,

                    WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR PROHIBITING SUCH OPERATION ON OTHER LANDS?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I THINK IT'S SIMILAR TO ANY KIND OF

                    MOTORIZED VEHICLE.  FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RULES FOR CARS

                    AND WE HAVE -- WE EVEN HAVE RULES FOR -- FOR BICYCLES.  SO THIS IS JUST

                    ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD RULES ON.  THE RULE THAT

                    WE HAD PRIOR WAS A LIMIT AT TEN YEARS OLD, SO IF SOMEBODY WAS TEN YEARS

                    OLD THEY COULD OPERATE THIS ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, YOU KNOW,

                    ON PUBLIC LAND THAT'S ALLOWED ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, THAT WAS

                    ALLOWED.  IT'S JUST THE ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER TIME.  THE --

                    ALL THE ACCIDENTS RELATING TO CHILDREN, FOR EXAMPLE, A QUARTER OF THEM

                    ARE -- ARE TEN TO 12.  SO YOU WANT TO PROTECT, YOU KNOW, KIDS, WHICH IS

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                    WHAT WE DO IN BICYCLE LAWS REQUIRING HELMETS, IN -- IN CARS REQUIRING

                    YOU TO HAVE A LEARNER'S PERMIT IN ORDER TO DRIVE.  SO THIS IS JUST -- OVER

                    TIME WE SAW THE ACCIDENTS TARGETED THIS AREA, THIS YOUNG AGE, SO IT WAS

                    TIME FOR AN AMENDMENT.  ALSO, I WILL NOTE THAT SURROUNDING STATES ALL

                    ARE AT THE SAME AGE AS 14.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  BUT THOSE STATISTICS THAT YOU'RE TALKING

                    ABOUT, HOW MANY OF THOSE ACCIDENTS IN YOUR STATISTICS HAPPENED IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I'M TALKING -- THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING

                    ABOUT, ONLY -- ONLY --

                                 MR. TAGUE:  ALL -- ALL THOSE ACCIDENTS WERE --

                    HAPPENED IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YEAH.  IN FACT, I CAN --

                                 MR. TAGUE:  AND DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ATVS

                    ARE OWNED IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I -- I DON'T, BUT IT -- IT'S REALLY THE

                    PERCENTAGE -- YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE WITH CARS, THERE'S A CERTAIN

                    PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, MORE CARS, MORE ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THE

                    PERCENTAGE HAS REMAINED THE SAME.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  SO SHOULD WE RAISE THE AGE FOR PEOPLE

                    TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE A VEHICLE ON THE ROAD?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I THINK SOME PEOPLE WOULD LIKELY

                    ARGUE FOR THAT, I'M NOT.  I THINK THAT WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS CARS IN A

                    CERTAIN WAY, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UPDATE THE LAW ON ATVS BECAUSE

                    WE HAVE LEARNED THAT THEY ARE DANGEROUS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.  FOR

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                    EXAMPLE, JUST IN THE LAST YEAR IN WAYNE COUNTY, A 13-YEAR-OLD BOY DIES

                    IN AUGUST.  THE TEEN WAS NOT WEARING A HELMET WHILE HE DROVE THE

                    ATV, DIED.  CRITICAL INJURY (INAUDIBLE), CAYUGA COUNTY, TWO

                    16-YEAR-OLDS INJURED.  WYNDHAM, GREENE COUNTY, A 13-YEAR-OLD GIRL

                    KILLED IN APRIL 2022.  OSWE -- OS -- I CAN'T -- SOME OTHER COUNTY, A

                    SEVEN-YEAR-OLD DIED IN AUGUST 2021.  BERNE, ALBANY COUNTY, EIGHT-

                    YEAR-OLD KILLED IN MAY OF 2020 WHEN AN ATV COLLIDED WITH A

                    BULLDOZER.  AND I HAVE A LONG LIST JUST IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW,

                    OF -- OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED IN NEW YORK.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  RIGHT.  BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE -- HOW

                    MANY OF THOSE KIDS WERE ACTUALLY OPERATING THE ATV AND AREN'T --

                    WEREN'T RIDING?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  ALL OF THE --

                                 MR. TAGUE:  ALL OF THOSE WERE (INAUDIBLE) --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  ALL OF THEM WERE OPERATING THE ATV.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  OKAY.  BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,

                    SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE IN AN ATV THAT HAS A ROLLOVER PROTECTED SYSTEM

                    YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A HELMET.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, IF THEY WERE IN A PROTECTED ATV

                    THAT DIDN'T ROLL OVER, PERHAPS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DEAD, BUT THEY

                    WERE.  SO THEY WEREN'T.  AND -- AND --

                                 MR. TAGUE:  YOU'RE SURE -- YOU'RE SURE OF THAT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  WELL, NO, BUT I -- YOU KNOW --

                                 MR. TAGUE:  OKAY.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  -- BUT WE CAN VERIFY, I CAN GIVE YOU

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                    THE LIST.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  OKAY.  SO THE PARKS AND RECREATION

                    AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION LAW ALLOWS OPERATORS AGE TEN OR OLDER, BUT

                    UNDER AGE 14, TO OPERATE SNOWMOBILES AS LONG AS THEY HOLD A

                    SNOWMOBILE SAFETY CERTIFICATE.  ARE ATVS MORE INHERENTLY DANGEROUS

                    THAN SNOWMOBILES?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I'VE NEVER RIDDEN EITHER, BUT YOU'RE

                    GIVING ME ANOTHER IDEA FOR A BILL.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  THAT'S WHAT I -- THAT'S WHAT I WAS

                    AFRAID OF.

                                 SO IN THE STUDY CITED IN YOUR MEMORANDUM, WAS THERE

                    ANY DATA DISTINGUISHING WHETHER OR NOT USE INJURED OR KILLED, IF ANY OF

                    THOSE CHILDREN HELD SAFETY CERTIFICATES?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, IN ORDER TO OPERATE YOU WOULD BE

                    REQUIRED UNDER CURRENT LAW TO -- TO HAVE A SAFETY CERTIFICATE.  YOU'RE

                    ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE UNDER CURRENT LAW IF YOU'RE TEN AND RIDE IT

                    ANYWHERE.  SO I DIDN'T -- THERE'S -- THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE NEWSPAPER

                    ARTICLES REGARDING THAT, BUT -- BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE AND THEY WOULD

                    HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE A SAFETY CERTIFICATE.  AND THAT'S -- FRANKLY,

                    YOU KNOW, IF KIDS ARE GOING TO DO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AFTER WE DO

                    THIS LAW, TOO, RIGHT?  SO -- SO WE CAN'T PROTECT THOSE KIDS, BUT WHAT WE

                    CAN SAY IS THAT AT AGE 14 NOW, YOU -- IN ORDER TO RIDE IT YOU HAVE TO

                    HAVE A SAFETY CERTIFICATE.  SO WE'RE SENDING THE MESSAGE THAT YOUNGER

                    THAN 14 ARE REALLY NOT EQUIPPED OR CAPABLE OF RIDING THESE VERY

                    COMPLEX --

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                                 MR. TAGUE:  I -- I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU THERE AND

                    I WILL SAVE THAT PART OF IT TO SPEAK ON THE BILL.  BUT I DO DISAGREE WITH

                    YOU THERE.  THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TEN- AND 12-YEAR-OLD KID

                    THAT LIVES IN RURAL UPSTATE NEW YORK THAN A TEN- OR 12-YEAR-OLD KID THAT

                    LIVES IN SUBURBIA.  BIG DIFFERENCE, BIG DIFFERENCE.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I -- AND I --

                                 MR. TAGUE:  AND I'LL -- I'LL ELABORATE -- I'LL ELABORATE

                    ON THAT WHEN I SPEAK ON THE BILL.

                                 I HAD JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SURE.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  -- IF YOU -- IF YOU DON'T MIND.  OUT OF

                    ALL THE ATV ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, HOW

                    MANY ADULTS WERE KILLED?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  WELL, THERE ARE A GREAT MANY MORE

                    ADULTS.  YOU KNOW, THE -- YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE STATS ARE THAT, YOU

                    KNOW, A QUARTER OF THEM ARE KIDS, SO THREE-QUARTERS ARE ADULTS.  I -- I GET

                    THAT, BUT IT'S STILL, AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, VERY -- VERY FEW --

                    FEWER NUMBER OF KIDS ARE ACTUALLY USING THEM, BUT YET THEY'RE A BIG

                    PORTION OF THE ACCIDENTS.  SO THEY'RE DISPROPORTIONATELY GETTING

                    IMPACTED, AND THAT'S THE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  WELL, AS WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY,

                    THERE ARE SOME ISSUES, OTHER ISSUES WITH THIS BILL, AND ONE OF THEM THAT'S

                    A LITTLE DISTURBING IS THE FACT THAT IT SAYS LEASED LAND OR OWNED LAND, BUT

                    SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE TO TRAVEL ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY TO GET

                    TO A FARM FIELD.  IN SOME AGRICULTURAL SITUATIONS IN RURAL UPSTATE NEW

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                    YORK, THESE ATVS ARE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE -- OF THE FAMILY

                    OPERATION.  AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVE KIDS EIGHT TO TEN YEARS OLD THAT

                    ARE PART OF THE FAMILY OPERATION, AND IN A CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, IT MAY

                    -- IT MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE SOMEBODY'S LIFE THAT A TEN-YEAR-OLD

                    KID DRIVES AN ATV OUT TO THE FARM FIELD TO EITHER GET HELP OR TO HELP

                    SOMEBODY.  THAT -- THAT'S A LITTLE DISTURBING TO ME THAT THEY WOULD BE IN

                    VIOLATION.

                                 AND I GUESS ONE OTHER QUESTION --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE IN VIOLATION

                    BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE ON THEIR OWN FARM.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  NO, THEY WOULDN'T.  THAT'S WHAT I'M

                    TRYING TO SAY TO YOU, THEY MAY HAVE TO TRAVEL ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S

                    PROPERTY TO GET FROM ONE OF THEIR FIELDS TO ANOTHER FIELD.  WE HAVE --

                    WHERE WE COME FROM, OKAY, YOU MAY OWN A FARM WITH 140 ACRES, BUT

                    YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER FIELD FOUR FIELDS OVER THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GO

                    ACROSS THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY TO GET TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HAY OR

                    CORNFIELD OVER THERE.  SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S

                    PROPERTY, OR YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TRAVEL ON A TOWN ROAD TO GET THERE.  SO, I

                    MEAN, THAT'S -- THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO I GUESS WOULD JUST ASK YOU HOW

                    COMMON IS IT TO HAVE -- HOW MANY FARMS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE WHERE

                    YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD GOING -- SAVING THE PARENT OR

                    SAVING THE CIRCUMSTANCE TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL ACROSS THE STREET?  I THINK

                    IT'S SUCH A NARROW WINDOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT MANY, MANY

                    MORE EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS AND TEN-YEAR-OLDS BY PREVENTING THEM FROM

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                    RIDING THEM FREE WILLING AROUND -- AROUND THEIR -- THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

                    YOU KNOW, SO -- SO I THINK IT'S A BALANCE ALWAYS IN THE LAW THAT YOU

                    HAVE TO STRIKE.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  HOW ARE WE GOING TO -- HOW ARE WE

                    GONG TO ENFORCE THIS?  ARE WE NOW GOING TO HAVE ATV COPS RUNNING

                    AROUND RURAL UPSTATE NEW YORK?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO -- NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU DO

                    NOW.  THE LAW -- WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING IN THE LAW EXCEPT RAISING

                    THE AGE FROM TEN TO 14, AT WHICH POINT YOU COULD FREELY RIDE ATVS

                    WITH A SAFETY CERTIFICATE.  SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE NATURES OF

                    ENFORCEMENT.  ENFORCEMENTS, IN FACT, COULD GET WEAKER BECAUSE YOU

                    MIGHT ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A -- THERE'S JUST -- THE

                    ENFORCEMENT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.  IT'S JUST NOT -- IT -- THERE'S -- THERE'S

                    NO REASON TO (INAUDIBLE).

                                 MR. TAGUE:  THEN WHY ARE WE -- WHY ARE WE

                    WASTING OUR TIME HERE DEBATING A BILL AND BRINGING A BILL IF WE'RE NOT

                    GOING TO ENFORCE THEM TO DO IT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WON'T ENFORCE

                    IT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT ENFORCEMENT WON'T CHANGE.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. TAGUE:  AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN RURAL

                    UPSTATE NEW YORK.  AT TEN YEARS OLD MY GRANDFATHER HAD ME OUT

                    PLOWING IN A TRACTOR WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD, MOWING HAY, BALING

                    HAY, CHOPPING CORN, CHOPPING HAYLAGE, TEN, 12 YEARS OLD, BECAUSE I

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                    WAS TAUGHT RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.  IN RURAL UPSTATE NEW

                    YORK, YOUNG KIDS, THESE VEHICLES SOMETIMES ARE SOMETHING THAT THEY

                    USE AT HOME ON THE FARM.  SOMETIMES FOR SAFETY REASONS, SOMETIMES FOR

                    BUSINESS, AND YES, SOMETIMES FOR PLEASURE AND RECREATION.  BUT THEY ARE

                    TAUGHT RESPONSIBILITY.  THEY ARE TAUGHT HOW TO OPERATE THESE PIECES OF

                    EQUIPMENT.  WE HAVE KIDS EIGHT, TEN YEARS OLD DRIVING STOCK CARS.

                    EIGHT TO TEN YEARS OLD, DRIVING MOTORCYCLES ON MOTOCROSS.  ARE WE

                    GOING TO CONTINUE TO WUSSIFY OUR CHILDREN OR ARE WE GOING TO LET THEM

                    LIVE LIKE AMERICANS?

                                 THIS BILL IS JUST AN OVERREACH.  THIS BILL IS AN

                    OVERREACH AND IT'S A BAD BILL.  IT WAS A BAD BILL A MONTH AGO, IT'S A BAD

                    BILL NOW.  I VOTE NO AND I ASK EVERYBODY TO JOIN ME, STOP WUSSIFYING

                    OUR KIDS AND LET'S VOTE NO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  MR. MANKTELOW.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  THANK YOU -- THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  WILL THE SPONSOR YIELD FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES, HAPPY TO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER ZACCARO:  THE SPONSOR

                    YIELDS.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  JUST TO -- THANK YOU VERY

                    MUCH.  JUST TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT EVEN THOUGH

                    WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ENFORCED?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO.  I SAID THAT -- I GUESS THE QUESTION

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                    TO ME WAS, YOU KNOW, IS ENFORCEMENT GOING TO CHANGE AND I SAID

                    ENFORCEMENT WILL BE RELATIVELY THE SAME.  I DON'T EXPECT ENFORCEMENT TO

                    CHANGE.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  AS -- AS -- AS WE

                    CHANGE OVER TO -- TO MORE AND MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, HOW WOULD AN

                    ELECTRIC ATV FALL INTO PLAY HERE?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  IT WOULD BE TREATED THE SAME WAY AS A

                    REGULAR GAS-DRIVEN ATV.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO -- SO DOES IT MATTER WHERE

                    THE ATV COMES FROM?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  AN ATV IS AN ATV.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  AN ATV IS AN ATV.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  AS FAR AS I KNOW.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU.  SO I

                    GUESS ONE OF MY FIRST QUESTIONS WOULD BE, WE ALL HAVE YOUNG KIDS, VERY

                    YOUNG KIDS.  WE SEE A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS HERE IN THE CHAMBER.  WE CAN

                    BUY THE -- THE ELECTRICAL ATVS, ONES THAT WE CHARGE AT OUR HOMES, AND

                    OUR LITTLE THREE- OR FOUR-YEAR OLD CAN RIDE THEM AROUND -- AROUND THE

                    LAWN.  THEY ARE AN ATV, THEY ARE CHARGEABLE.  WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT

                    POINT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  IF IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY THE THREE-YEAR-

                    OLD CAN STILL DO IT.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO LET'S SAY YOU AND I ARE

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                    NEIGHBORS.  YOU HAVE A THREE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, I HAVE A FOUR-YEAR-OLD

                    SON, THEY'RE BEST OF FRIENDS.  ARE YOU TELLING ME NOW THAT MY SON WHO'S

                    FOUR YEARS OLD CAN'T DRIVE HIS ATV OVER TO YOUR DAUGHTER'S HOUSE AND

                    RIDE THE ATV AROUND THE YARD TOGETHER?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  CURRENTLY, UNDER THE CURRENT LAW THEY

                    COULDN'T.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  THANK YOU FOR THAT.  I

                    APPRECIATE THAT -- THAT ANSWER.  I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE WITH IT, BUT WE'RE

                    -- AS MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID, SOMETIMES IN THIS HOUSE, SOMETIMES IN

                    THE STATE, WE PUSH THINGS WAY TOO FAR.  THERE ARE PRACTICAL WAYS OF

                    DOING THINGS.  I -- I APPLAUD THE IDEA OF SAVING OUR CHILDREN, ABSOLUTELY.

                    WE, AS PARENTS, DO THE SAME THING.  HAVE -- HAVE ANY OF YOUR CHILDREN

                    EVER RIDDEN AN ATV?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NOT WHEN I'VE EVER SEEN THEM.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS,

                    ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH GOVERNORS?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  WITH WHAT?  I'M SORRY.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  WITH GOVERNORS.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  GOVERNORS?

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  YES.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES, I'VE SERVED UNDER MANY.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  ALL RIGHT, I'LL REPHRASE THE

                    QUESTION.

                                 (LAUGHTER)

                                 ARE -- ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH --

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                                 MS. PAULIN:  WRONG ANSWER, (INAUDIBLE).

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER I WAS

                    LOOKING FOR, BUT I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THAT, SO

                    (INAUDIBLE).  MY SECOND QUESTION, THEN, IS TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.  SO, A

                    GOVERNOR REDUCES THE ABILITY OF A MOTORIZED VEHICLE TO GO FASTER AND TO

                    LOWER THE RPMS OF THAT VEHICLE.  ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT TYPE OF

                    GOVERNOR.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  RIGHT.  SO LET ME GIVE YOU

                    THIS.  A CERTAIN COMPANY MAKES A LITTLE GRIZZLY 90 -- I ALMOST SAID THE

                    COMPANY -- A 90 ATV, OKAY, AND ON THAT ATV THERE ARE GOVERNORS THAT

                    WE, AS PARENTS, CAN ADJUST.  SO I CAN ADJUST THAT GOVERNOR DOWN TO LESS

                    THAN ALMOST A CRAWL.  IF THESE VEHICLES ARE EQUIPPED WITH GOVERNORS,

                    WOULD WE THEN BE ABLE TO ALLOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO RIDE WITHOUT

                    DOING THIS LAW?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, I DO KNOW THAT THE -- ALL THE

                    MANUFACTURERS FOR ATVS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE THE LARGE KIND

                    OR THE SMALL KIND, ALL IN THEIR BROCHURE THAT THEY GIVE AND IN THEIR

                    ADVERTISEMENT THEY ACTUALLY SAY THESE VEHICLES ARE NOT SAFE FOR ANYONE

                    UNDER THE AGE OF 14 OR 16, DEPENDING ON THE VEHICLE.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  SO THERE'S A VFZ-50,

                    IT'S A 49CC.  YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT CCS ARE AND ALL THAT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  MM-HMM.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  IT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH

                    POWER IS IN THE ENGINE, OKAY?  TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.  THEY'RE DESIGNED

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                    FOR SIX YEARS OLD AND UP RIGHT NOW.  SO YOU AND I CAN GO OUT AND BUY

                    ONE THIS AFTERNOON FOR OUR SIX-YEAR-OLD.  WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN

                    THIS SITUATION?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, SIX-YEAR-OLDS ARE NOT CHANGED IN

                    THE LAW AT ALL.  SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE CHANGING IS TEN TO 14.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  TEN TO 14.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YEAH.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO, AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD CAN GO

                    AHEAD AND DRIVE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE LAW, BUT --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO, NO, AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD IS THE SAME

                    IN THIS LAW AND BEFORE -- IN THE CURRENT LAW AND IN THE PROPOSED LAW.

                    THE EIGHT-YEAR-OLD, IF THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT BEFORE UNDER WHATEVER

                    THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY CAN DO IT AGAIN.  IF THEY COULDN'T DO IT, THEY STILL

                    CAN'T DO IT.  THEY ARE TREATED THE SAME.  WHAT'S DIFFERENT IS THE TEN TO

                    14.  SO CURRENT LAW IS IF YOU'RE A TEN-YEAR-OLD YOU COULD HAVE GOTTEN

                    THE SAFETY COURSE, THEN YOU COULD HAVE DRIVEN THIS ATV DOWN THE

                    HIGHWAY, ACROSS THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE PLACE.  BUT NOW

                    UNDER CURRENT -- UNDER THE PROPOSED LAW YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO

                    THAT UNLESS YOU WERE BEING SUPERVISED BY SOMEONE WHO WAS 18 OR

                    MORE.  THEN YOU COULD STILL DO IT.  BUT -- BUT THAT'S THE -- THAT'S THE

                    DIFFERENCE, IT'S TEN TO 14.  THE EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS ARE STILL THE

                    EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS, THE SIX-YEAR-OLDS ARE STILL THE SIX-YEAR-OLDS.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  SO -- SO TO -- TO

                    PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT QUESTION, I HAVE ANOTHER ADD-ON TO WHAT MY

                    COLLEAGUE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.  IN WHERE WE FARM IN UPSTATE NEW

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                    YORK, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE CONTIGUOUS FIELDS.  THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS

                    CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER.  AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT MY CHILDREN USED

                    TO TAKE OUR FOUR-WHEELER AND GO OUT AND PICK UP ROCKS AND THEY

                    ABSOLUTELY LOVED DOING IT, ABSOLUTELY.  NOT REALLY, BUT I'M JUST BEING

                    FUNNY.  SOMETIMES SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR CHILDREN, THEY WANTED TO EARN

                    A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY, WE'RE TEACHING THEM HOW TO WORK, AND WE WOULD

                    ALLOW THEM TO GO WITH THEM, WITH THE PERMISSION FROM THEIR PARENTS.

                    IN THIS SITUATION THAT'S GOING TO STOP ALL OF THAT.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, A FOUR-WHEELER IS AN ATV?  I'M

                    ASKING.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  YES.  I'M SORRY, YES, A

                    FOUR-WHEELER IS AN ATV.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES, OKAY.  AND THE CHILDREN ARE --

                    WERE HOW OLD?

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  PROBABLY TEN YEARS OLD, EIGHT

                    YEARS OLD.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO WAS -- THE TEN-YEAR-OLD WAS THE

                    DRIVER, I'M ASSUMING, OR...

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  I WOULD -- I WOULD THINK SO,

                    YES.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  OKAY.  SO YOU'RE ASKING IF IT WOULD

                    CHANGE TO ALLOW A TEN-YEAR-OLD TO DRIVE WITH NEIGHBORS' CHILDREN WHO

                    WERE ALSO TEN AND YOUNGER.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OR COULD BE A YEAR OLDER.  MY

                    -- MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE AS A FARMER TO GO TO THE FIELD

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                    THAT'S OVER THERE AND I HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY, I HAVE

                    PERMISSION TO DRIVE THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY, THIS LAW WILL NOT ALLOW THAT

                    TO HAPPEN?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  WELL, WITH ADULT SUPERVISION IT WOULD.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO WITH ADULT SUPERVISION, THAT

                    MEANS I HAVE TO BE WITH THAT -- WITH THOSE TWO CHILDREN AT ALL TIMES?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, ADULT SUPERVISION IS NOT DEFINED AS

                    DIRECT ADULT SUPERVISION, IT'S JUST DEFINED AS SUPERVISION.  SO SIMILARLY

                    TO THE WAY WE HAVE EVOLVED IN TERMS OF TEACHING SOMEONE TO DRIVE,

                    RIGHT?  IT'LL GET LITIGATED, A JUDGE WILL DECIDE WHAT SUPERVISION MEANS.

                    SO I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SAY DIRECT SUPERVISION, IT'S

                    SUPERVISION.  IF A JUDGE LATER DECIDES THAT YOU WERE IN YOUR HOUSE AND

                    BUT WATCHING THEM, THAT COULD BE DEEMED SUPERVISION.  BUT AGAIN, A

                    JUDGE IS GOING TO DECIDE THAT, NOT ME, NOT US RIGHT HERE.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  ALL RIGHT.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  BUT MAYBE IF YOU WERE IN YOUR HOUSE

                    AND YOU WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION, THERE WAS NO SUPERVISION.  I MEAN,

                    THAT WOULD BE -- IF I WERE A JUDGE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I

                    WOULD THINK ABOUT, BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T DEFINE SUPERVISION IN THE -- IN

                    THE BILL.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO -- SO IT'S NOT DEFINED IN THE

                    BILL, SO IF I BELIEVE THAT MY CHILD IS CAPABLE OF OPERATING THAT VEHICLE,

                    THAT ATV, FOUR-WHEELER, WHATEVER YOU LIKE TO CALL IT, AND I'M FINE WITH

                    HIM OR HER GOING OUT TO THE FIELD TO DO WHAT THEY GOT TO DO, IN THIS BILL

                    THAT'S OKAY?

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                                 MS. PAULIN:  WELL, IT WOULD BE OKAY ANYWAY

                    BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ON YOUR FIELD.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  BUT WHAT IF IT'S A FIELD THAT I

                    LEASE?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  IT -- IT'S REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU

                    LEASE IT OR WHETHER YOU OWN IT, IT'S -- IT WOULD BE YOUR FIELD.  AND SO,

                    THEREFORE, ANY AGE CHILD, INCLUDING A BABY, COULD DRIVE AN ATV AS LONG

                    AS THEY WERE YOUR BABY ON YOUR LAND.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  AND JUST THINKING BACK

                    ON SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I SEE IN THE DISTRICT.  WE HAVE A LOT OF

                    HORSEBACK RIDERS BACK HOME.  IS THERE ANY -- IS THERE ANY AGE LIMITS FOR

                    RIDING HORSES?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I -- I DON'T KNOW.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  BECAUSE HORSEBACK RIDING IS

                    BY FAR THE NUMBER ONE HOSPITAL VISIT, BROKEN BONE, ABOVE ANYTHING

                    ELSE.  ABOVE SKATEBOARDS, ABOVE ATVS, ABOVE MOTORCYCLES, ABOVE

                    PLAYING FOOTBALL, ABOVE SKIING, AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE ARE

                    LOOKING AT ONLY ATVS OR WHY IS THE ATVS, FOUR-WHEELERS.  AND PLEASE

                    DON'T DO ANOTHER BILL.

                                 (LAUGHTER)

                                 IT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YOU READ MY MIND.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  IF WE'RE TRULY -- IF WE'RE TRULY

                    CONCERNED ABOUT THE YOUNG PERSON, WHY ARE WE HITTING THE ATVS FIRST

                    WHEN THAT'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ACCIDENTS, WITH THE MOST BEING ON

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                    HORSEBACK.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  THE REASON I HAVE THIS BILL IS BECAUSE

                    THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT IN ONE OF -- A COMMUNITY NEARBY, YORKTOWN,

                    WHERE A YOUNG PERSON DIED, AND SO IT WAS A -- A BIG DEAL IN

                    WESTCHESTER AND -- AND SOMEBODY WHO WAS FRIENDS WITH THIS FAMILY

                    ASKED ME TO CARRY THE BILL AND THAT'S WHY I CARRIED THE BILL.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  IS THERE ANY OTHER

                    CONSIDERATION JUST -- AND YOU -- AND YOU REFERENCED ONE UP IN WAYNE

                    COUNTY; THAT'S MY HOME COUNTY.  I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT ACCIDENT.

                    IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO DO THIS VERSUS POPULATION IN A RURAL AREA

                    WHERE WE NEED THEM AND USE THEM MORE VERSUS IN THE CITY?  LIKE, I'M

                    ASSUMING WHERE YOU LIVE IS PROBABLY MORE POPULATED THAN WHERE I

                    LIVE.  HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION OF SAYING, HEY, MAYBE IN THE

                    RURAL AREAS THEY CAN EXEMPT OUT OF THIS?  BECAUSE WE DO USE THEM FOR

                    -- FOR FARMING, FOR OTHER -- GOING OUT TO GET MAPLE SYRUP, YOU KNOW,

                    DOING ALL THOSE THINGS.  IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN A RURAL AREA.  AND AS MY

                    COLLEAGUE SAID AND I 100 PERCENT AGREE, AS A PARENT I AM DOING TO DARN

                    SURE MAKE SURE THAT MY CHILD KNOWS THE INS AND OUTS, THE RIGHTS AND

                    WRONGS ABOUT THAT INDIVIDUAL VEHICLE, THAT FOUR-WHEELER, THAT ATV,

                    BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE MY CHILD GET HURT OR ANY OTHER CHILD.  AND I

                    THINK THAT NEEDS TO GO BACK ON THE PARENTS, BACK ON THE -- THE ONES THAT

                    ARE SUPERVISING THE CHILDREN AND NOT SO MUCH BEING MANDATED BY THE

                    STATE THAT THIS HAS TO HAPPEN.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, I -- I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S GONNA

                    STILL BE THE -- THE RULE OF THE LAW, RIGHT?  THAT'S GONNA -- BECAUSE A

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                    CHILD CAN -- CAN RIDE THESE THINGS OR OPERATE THESE THINGS AT ANY AGE, IT

                    WILL BE UP TO THE PARENT TO DECIDE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE ON THEIR OWN LAND.

                    BUT WHERE THIS DRAWS THE LINE IS THAT THAT SAME PARENT CAN'T MAKE THAT

                    DECISION FOR THE NEIGHBOR'S CHILD, FOR SOMEONE'S WHO'S COMING ONTO

                    THEIR LAND.  THAT'S WHERE THIS BILL CHANGES IT.  SO THIS BILL WILL SAY YOU

                    WANT YOUR CHILD AGE EIGHT OR NINE OR TEN TO RIDE ON YOUR LAND, THAT'S

                    OKAY.  BUT WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IS DECIDE FOR MY CHILD.  MY CHILD CAN'T

                    VISIT YOU AND YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.  MY CHILD GOING TO YOUR PROPERTY

                    WOULD HAVE TO BE 14 WITH ONE OF THESE COURSES.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  I -- AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE

                    THIS CRYSTAL CLEAR.  SO IF YOUR CHILD WAS FRIENDS WITH MY CHILD AND YOUR

                    CHILD WANTS TO WORK ON OUR FARM AND I TALKED TO YOU AND I SAID, MOM,

                    AM I ALLOWED TO TAKE JOEY WITH MY CHILD TO GO WORK IN THAT FARM FIELD,

                    IF I GET PERMISSION FROM YOU IS THAT GOING TO BE OKAY?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, IF YOU'RE RIDING IT YOU'RE 18 AND

                    YOU COULD RIDE IT.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  NO, NOT THAT I'M RIDING IT.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I SEE.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  MY CHILD WHO IS VERY SKILLED

                    AT RIDING AND MANEUVERING, DRIVING, TAKING CARE OF THE ATV, USING IT

                    AND YOUR CHILD IS MY CHILD'S FRIEND AND HE OR SHE WANTS TO MAKE SOME

                    EXTRA MONEY AND IF I GET PERMISSION FROM THE PARENT TO ALLOW YOUR

                    CHILD TO RIDE WITH MY CHILD, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I HAD THE

                    PROGRAM AND COUNSEL PERSON FROM TRANSPORTATION, NOT LABOR, BUT I

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                    DON'T KNOW WHAT AGE YOU CAN ACTUALLY PAY SOMEONE TO WORK.  I DON'T

                    KNOW THAT IT'S TEN.  IF IT'S -- IF IT'S 14 THEN WE'RE GOOD.  IF YOU'RE PAYING

                    SOMEONE WHO'S 12 THEN I WOULD WANT THE PROGRAM AND COUNSEL PERSON

                    FROM LABOR TO ADVISE ME WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD ACTUALLY EMPLOY A

                    12-YEAR-OLD.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  THEN -- AND I'LL STOP

                    AFTER THIS QUESTION.  SO LET'S THROW OUT THE LABOR PART.  LET'S SAY THEY'RE

                    FRIENDS AGAIN, AND MY SON HAS A TRAP LINE OR HE WANTS TO GO CHECK THE

                    SUGAR, THE MAPLE SYRUP.  SAME SITUATION, HE WANTS TO TAKE HIS FRIEND

                    WITH HIM ON THE ATV TO GO CHECK THE MAPLE LINES.  IF I GET PERMISSION

                    FROM THE PARENT --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  AND THE MAPLE LINES ARE ON YOUR

                    PROPERTY?

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  YEAH, BUT ON SOME OF THE

                    FARMLAND, YES.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, IT'S ALL YOUR FARMLAND?

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  NO, WE'RE GOING THROUGH ONE

                    PERSON'S PROPERTY TO GET TO MY OTHER FIELD.  IS THAT GOING TO BE

                    ACCEPTABLE?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  AND YOUR CHILD IS LESS THAN 14?

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  ABSOLUTELY.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, IF THE CHILD'S LESS THAN 14 AND THEY

                    HAD A SAFETY CERTIFICATE AT TEN THEY COULD HAVE RIDDEN ACROSS SOMEBODY

                    ELSE'S PROPERTY.  BUT NOW THIS WILL CHANGE THAT AND THEY WILL NOT BE

                    ABLE TO RIDE ACROSS THE PERSON'S PROPERTY WITHOUT SUPERVISION OF

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                    SOMEONE WHO IS 18, BUT THEY CAN RIDE ON YOUR LAND AND, FRANKLY, THEY

                    CAN RIDE WITH ANY PASSENGER, A FRIEND OR WHATEVER.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  SO IT GOES BACK TO YOUR

                    DEFINITION OF WHAT SUPERVISION IS.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.

                                 MR. MANKTELOW:  OKAY.  I -- I THREW THOSE

                    SCENARIOS AT YOU BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK WE THINK HERE IN THIS

                    CHAMBER THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE, BUT THEY DO

                    HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE.  I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND.  I HAVE JUST AS MUCH

                    CONSIDERATION AND CARE ABOUT THAT CHILD RIDING WITH MY CHILD AS ANYONE

                    ELSE'S CHILD.  AND I -- I AGREE WITH THE -- THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO TAKE

                    THIS, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S ALWAYS NOT PRACTICAL, IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT

                    PEOPLE WANT THROUGHOUT AND ACROSS NEW YORK STATE.

                                 SO, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME IN ANSWERING MY

                    QUESTIONS AND, MR. SPEAKER, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE THE

                    TIME AS WELL.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GALLAHAN.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL

                    THE SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. PAULIN YIELDS.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  THANK YOU.  I'M GOING TO TAKE

                    THIS FROM THE AGRICULTURAL TWIST TO A LITTLE DIFFERENT TWIST WHERE IT'S

                    GOING TO COST SOME PEOPLE SOME MONEY.  CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE

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                    DEFINITION OF AN ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE IS?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I'M SURE IT'S IN THE LAW.  I CAN LOOK FOR

                    IT.  SEE IS IT IN THE BILL OR NOT?  YEAH, WE'LL FIND IT.

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 OKAY, WE'RE JUST -- STAFF IS LOOKING IT UP.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  OKAY.  THANK YOU.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I DON'T SEE IT IN ANY OF MY STUFF.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED AN

                    ELECTRIFIED VEHICLE AND IT --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I HAVE THE DEFINITION.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  -- RAISES SOME QUESTIONS.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  OKAY.  ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE, OR ATV,

                    MEANS ANY SELF-PROPELLED VEHICLE WHICH IS MANUFACTURED FOR SALE FOR

                    OPERATION PRIMARILY ON OFF-HIGHWAY TRAILS OR OFF-HIGHWAY COMPETITIONS,

                    AND ONLY INCIDENTALLY OPERATED ON PUBLIC HIGHWAYS PROVIDING THAT SUCH

                    VEHICLE DOES NOT EXCEED 70 INCHES IN WIDTH OR 1,000 POUNDS DRY

                    WEIGHT, PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THIS DEFINITION SHALL NOT INCLUDE A

                    SNOWMOBILE - WHOEVER MENTIONED THAT BEFORE - OR OTHER SELF-PROPELLED

                    VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FOR OFF-HIGHWAY USE EXPLICITLY DESIGNED FOR

                    TRAVEL ON SNOW OR ICE, STEERED BY SKIS OR RUNNERS, AND SUPPORTED IN

                    WHOLE OR IN PART BY ONE OR MORE SKIS, BELTS OR CLEATS WHICH UTILIZE AN

                    ENDLESS BELT THREAD -- TREAD.  THERE'S A LITTLE MORE, BUT MAYBE IT'S

                    ENOUGH?

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  THAT'S FINE.  THANK YOU VERY

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                    MUCH.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  OKAY.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  YOU MENTIONED COMPETITIONS,

                    AND THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH THIS.  UPSTATE WE HAVE MANY TRACKS,

                    DIRT TRACKS, WHERE THEY RACE ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLES AND GO-CARTS.  IS A

                    GO-CART CONSIDERED AN ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO, ACCORDING TO THIS IT COULD NOT BE

                    USED FOR COMPETITION, I BELIEVE.

                                 (PAUSE)

                                 SO -- I'M SORRY, SO ASK YOUR QUESTION.  I JUST READ IT

                    AGAIN.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  OKAY, SO I KNOW THE DEFINITION

                    NOW.  OR I -- I THINK I KNOW THE DEFINITION.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  THAT'S OKAY.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  SO, WE HAVE SEVERAL RACETRACKS

                    UPSTATE NEW YORK, DIRT TRACKS WHERE THEY RACE ATVS AND THEY RACE

                    GO-CARTS.  YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN- TO 14-YEAR-OLD CLASS AND EXCLUDE

                    THEM, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS RIGHT, FROM RACING ON THAT RACETRACK?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NOT IF THEIR PARENTS ARE THERE OR

                    ANYONE 18 OR OVER.  SO IF SOMEONE IS SUPERVISING THAT RACE, AND I

                    WOULD THINK THAT IF A TEN-YEAR-OLD IS ACTUALLY OPERATING AN ATV THAT --

                    AND RACING, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF ADULT

                    SUPERVISION.  BUT -- BUT HONESTLY, IT CAN BE AN OLDER BROTHER OR SISTER.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO. YES, ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY,

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                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  NOW I'M CONFUSED.

                                 MR. PAULIN:  SO, IF IT'S ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY,

                    IF THERE'S SUPERVISION OF A 18-YEAR-OLD, IT COULD BE ANYBODY DRIVING THE

                    THING AGAIN.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  SO MY COLLEAGUE CAN TAKE HIS

                    CHILD, A TEN-YEAR-OLD, PUT ON AN ATV, STAND OUT IN THE FIELD, DRIVES

                    ACROSS HIS FIELD AND ACROSS FOUR NEIGHBORS' FIELDS TO GET TO HIS FIELD,

                    THAT'S OKAY?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  IF -- IF HE'S WITH A 18-YEAR-OLD, YEAH.

                    IF THEY'RE BEING SUPERVISED.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  SO YOU CAN RIDE ON SOMEBODY

                    ELSE'S PROPERTY, THEN, IF YOU'RE SUPERVISED.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  OKAY.  SO THESE -- THESE

                    COMPETITIONS AND THESE RACES ARE NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS LAW

                    IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO.  NOT IF THEY'RE SUPERVISED.

                                 MR. GALLAHAN:  OKAY.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                    APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. PIROZZOLO.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WILL

                    THE SPONSOR YIELD, PLEASE?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. PAULIN?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  SHE YIELDS.

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                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  SO, THANK YOU.  I MEAN, I

                    APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO, BUT I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION, A

                    COUPLE OF THINGS POPPED INTO MY MIND THAT I'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF

                    CLARIFICATION.  SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MINORS BEING ANYONE UNDER 18

                    YEARS OF AGE.  SO WHETHER THEY'RE SIX TO EIGHT OR 14 TO 16 THEY'RE A

                    MINOR AND THEY -- THIS WOULD AFFECT THEM.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  ACTUALLY -- SORRY.  THE ONLY CATEGORY

                    THAT'S AFFECTED BY THIS BILL ARE TEN TO 14.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  TEN TO 14.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YES.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  GOOD ENOUGH.  YOU GAVE A

                    STATISTIC BEFORE ABOUT ONE-QUARTER OF THE INJURIES OR FATALITIES ARE

                    CHILDREN --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  RIGHT.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  -- MEANING THREE-QUARTERS OF THE

                    ADULTS OR THE REMAINING WOULD BE ADULTS.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  RIGHT.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  ADULTS WHO HAVE DIED FROM THIS,

                    WERE THEY WEARING SAFETY EQUIPMENT?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I DON'T KNOW.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  YOU DON'T KNOW.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  NO.  THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THE

                    LAW TO WEAR SAFETY EQUIPMENT WHETHER YOU'RE A CHILD OR AN ADULT.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  OKAY.  MAY I ASK WHO'S

                    RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE A SIX- OR AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD HAS TO WEAR

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                    THEIR HELMET?

                                 MS. PAULIN:  THERE WOULD BE A -- I MEAN, THERE'S NO

                    REQUIREMENT FOR A HELMET IN THE LAW FOR AN ATV.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  OKAY.  SO WHO'S GOING TO BE

                    RESPONSIBLE IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS BILL IS CARRIED OUT, THAT --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  WHOEVER'S RESPONSIBLE NOW.  I --

                    THAT'S WHY I SAID ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T CHANGE, BECAUSE ALL WE'RE DOING

                    IS WE'RE SAYING -- WE'RE CHANGING THE CURRENT LAW THAT IN THE PRIOR LAW

                    OR THE CURRENT LAW YOU COULD BE TEN AND GET A COURSE AND DRIVE

                    ANYWHERE.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  RIGHT.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  WE'RE NOW SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE 14

                    TO DO THAT.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  OKAY.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  SO WHOEVER ARE THE BIG ENFORCERS OUT

                    THERE, THEY REMAIN THE SAME.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  BUT I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT PARENTS?

                    ARE PARENTS GOING TO BE SAYING THAT YOUR CHILDREN SHOULD BE PROTECTED,

                    THOSE PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  (COUGHING) I'M SORRY.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  TAKE YOUR TIME, DON'T EVEN WORRY

                    ABOUT IT.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I -- I THINK I'M OKAY.  I'M JUST GOING TO

                    TALK A LITTLE LESS.  SO, SOMEBODY, WATER?  WATER?  THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

                    YEAH.

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                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  SO PARENTS WOULD BE --

                                 MS. PAULIN:  YEAH.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  OKAY.  SO (INAUDIBLE) TO MAKE

                    SURE THERE'S RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON PARENTS THAT THEY'RE EIGHT -- SIX TO

                    EIGHT YEARS OLD.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  IT -- IT'S THE SAME AS NOW.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  OKAY.  THAT'S IT.  THANK YOU, I --

                    I APPRECIATE IT, AND I HOPE YOU GET YOUR WATER AND YOU'RE GOOD.

                                 I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BILL, PLEASE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. PIROZZOLO:  OKAY.  SO, MY CONCERN IS THAT

                    WE'RE MAKING PARENTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, AND AS THEY SHOULD BE, OR IT'S

                    JUST THE SAME.  YET WE ALLOW ACCESS TO SEX CHANGES, GENDER AFFIRMING

                    COUNSELING, BIRTH CONTROL, ABORTION DRUGS, TO ANY CHILD, REGARDLESS OF

                    THEIR AGE.  IN SOME CASES WE HIDE THINGS FROM PARENTS WHERE A CHILD

                    MAY WANT TO HAVE A GENDER-CHANGING SURGERY OR DISCUSS OR HAVE ANY

                    CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT GENDER AFFIRMATION.  WE GO AS FAR AS TO TRY TO HIDE

                    THESE THINGS FROM PARENTS, YET WE'RE HERE TO HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR

                    YOUNG CHILDREN SIX TO EIGHT YEARS OLD ABOUT ATV SAFETY.  SO I JUST

                    WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT SOMETIMES I THINK THAT -- YOU KNOW,

                    WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC, BUT SOMETIMES AS LEGISLATORS WE REALLY

                    DO BECOME SELF-SERVING BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER

                    SPORTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WERE POINTED OUT THAT WE'RE NOT REGULATING

                    AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO REGULATE.  I JUST WANT TO REALLY POINT

                    OUT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY CRITICAL LIFE ISSUES THAT ARE HERE AS FAR AS

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                    TAKING CARE OF OUR CHILDREN AND OUR YOUTH, BUT WE GO AHEAD WITH THAT

                    AND WE'RE DEBATING FOR A VERY LONG TIME HERE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF ATVS

                    WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    PIROZZOLO.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 120TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  A PARTY VOTE HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  OUR SIDE OF

                    THE AISLE WILL GENERALLY BE AGAINST -- IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PIECE OF

                    LEGISLATION, BUT IF MEMBERS FEEL DIFFERENTLY THEY ARE FREE TO CERTAINLY

                    CAST THEIR VOTE ACCORDINGLY AT THEIR DESK.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF

                    THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION; HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE A FEW OF OUR

                    COLLEAGUES THAT WOULD DESIRE TO BE AN EXCEPTION.  THEY SHOULD FEEL FREE

                    TO CAST THEIR VOTE LIKEWISE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. NOVAKHOV, IF YOU -- ONE MINUTE -- IS GOING TO

                    EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. STERN?

                                 MR. NOVAKHOV:  THANK YOU.  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER, I'LL BE SHORTER THAN THAT.  I SUPPORT THIS BILL IN GENERAL BECAUSE

                    ILLEGAL AND UNDERAGE ATV USE IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN NEW YORK CITY.

                    BUT AT THE SAME TIME, MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE RURAL AREAS HAVE A POINT,

                    SOMETIMES IT IS JUST A NECESSITY.  SO ASSEMBLYMEMBERS FROM URBAN

                    AREAS, PLEASE CONSULT (CLEARING THROAT) -- EXCUSE ME -- PLEASE CONSULT

                    WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES FROM RURAL AREAS WHILE DRAFTING SUCH BILLS.

                                 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AND HOW ARE YOU

                    VOTING, MR. NOVAKHOV?

                                 MR. NOVAKHOV:  I'M VOTING YES.  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. NOVAKHOV IN THE

                    NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 MR. NOVAKHOV:  NO, NO, IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  OH, IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. NOVAKHOV:  YES, THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  OKAY.  THANK YOU,

                    SIR.

                                 MS. GLICK TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

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                                 MS. GLICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I -- I RISE TO

                    SUPPORT THE -- THE BILL AND TO BE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED AT THE NOTION THAT

                    WE WOULD TELL EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS THAT IF THEY'RE NOT -- WE DON'T WANT THEM

                    TO BE WIMPS, LIKE, GET ON THE ATV AND GO RIDE.  I UNDERSTAND THAT

                    PEOPLE MAY HAVE TO TRAVEL ACROSS FIELDS, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT AN EIGHT-

                    YEAR-OLD DRIVING DOWN A COUNTRY ROAD TO GET TO ANOTHER FIELD, MAYBE

                    THE SHERIFF SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULDN'T BE ON THIS ROAD.

                    SOMETIMES PEOPLE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH BACK ROADS DRIVE THEM PRETTY

                    DAMN FAST.  SO I -- I -- I UNDERSTAND THAT IF IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY OR IF

                    YOU'RE TRAVELING TO OTHER PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S -- I -- I GET THAT.

                    BUT I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE IMPLYING TO YOUNGSTERS

                    THAT IF THEY HAVE ANY HESITANCY THAT THEY BETTER STOP BEING WIMPS

                    BECAUSE WE WIND UP SEEING YOUNGSTERS FEELING LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO

                    THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETIMES.

                                 SO I WITHDRAW MY REQUEST AND VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. GLICK IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MS. PAULIN TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. PAULIN:  I -- I'M ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO DO A

                    CORRECTION.  THE STAFF LOOKED IT UP, AND ACTUALLY HELMETS ARE REQUIRED

                    FOR ATVS.  SO THEY ARE REQUIRED.  I DIDN'T WANT THAT TO GO WITHOUT

                    SAYING THAT.

                                 SO I WITHDRAW AND VOTE IN THE POSITIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. PAULIN

                    WITHDRAWS HER OBJECTION AND PROVIDES A CORRECTION AND VOTES IN THE

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                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 34, CALENDAR NO. 103, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A01731, CALENDAR NO.

                    103, DINOWITZ, WEPRIN, EPSTEIN, DICKENS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO RESTRICTING INSURERS FROM DEMANDING

                    INTRUSIVE PERSONAL, FINANCIAL AND TAX INFORMATION FROM INSURED AS A

                    STANDARD PRACTICE IN PROCESSING ORDINARY THEFT CLAIMS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED, MR. DINOWITZ.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  THIS LEGISLATION RESTRICTS INSURERS

                    -- RESTRICTS INSURERS FROM DEMANDING INTRUSIVE PERSONAL, FINANCIAL AND

                    TAX INFORMATION FROM AN INSURED AS A STANDARD PRACTICE IN ORDINARY

                    THEFT CLAIMS.  UNDER THE BILL, THOUGH, THE INSURERS MAY REQUEST SUCH

                    INFORMATION IF SPECIAL ARTICULABLE CIRCUMSTANCES EXIST WHICH DIRECTLY

                    RELATE TO THE INDIVIDUAL FACTS OF THE THEFT CLAIM AND WHICH WARRANT THE

                    MAKING OF SUCH DEMAND FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF DETERMINING IF SUCH

                    THEFT CLAIM IS FRAUDULENT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BLUMENCRANZ.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    WILL THE SPONSOR YIELD, PLEASE?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. DINOWITZ, WILL

                    YOU YIELD?

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                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I WILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS,

                    SIR.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  A FEW QUESTIONS.  SO MY

                    FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THIS BILL DIFFER COMPARED TO CURRENT DFS

                    REGULATIONS SURROUNDING UNFAIR CLAIM PRACTICES?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, CURRENTLY, OFTEN OR ALL TOO

                    OFTEN, INSURERS WILL DEMAND INFORMATION, VERY INTRUSIVE INFORMATION

                    TOTALLY IRRELEVANT TO THE CLAIM ITSELF.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU

                    DESCRIBE AS INTRUSIVE INFORMATION IN A FRAUD -- OR SORRY, A THEFT CLAIM?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I HAPPEN TO HAVE A LIST.  SO,

                    INTRUSIVE INFORMATION WHICH WOULD BE BARRED UNDER THIS LEGISLATION

                    WOULD INCLUDE COPIES OF THE INSURED'S PERSONAL AND BUSINESS TAX

                    RETURNS, PERMITS OR LICENSES WHICH THE INSURED HOLDS IN NEW YORK STATE

                    OTHER THAN A DRIVER'S LICENSE, LOAN APPLICATIONS WHICH THE INSURED FILED,

                    STATEMENTS SETTING FORTH THE COUNTY AND STATE IN WHICH THE INSURED HAS

                    BEEN REGISTERED TO VOTE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME OTHER THAN FROM HIS OR HER

                    PRESENT RESIDENCE, COPIES OF ANY BANK STATEMENTS OF BANKS IN WHICH THE

                    INSURED HAS ACCOUNTS, COPIES OF ANY DOING BUSINESS AS OR CERTIFICATES

                    OF INCORPORATION FOR ANY BUSINESS THE INSURED OWNS OR, LAST,

                    INFORMATION OR MATERIAL OF A SIMILAR PERSONAL, FINANCIAL, TAX OR PRIVATE

                    NATURE WHICH THE SUPERINTENDENT, BY REGULATION, FINDS TO BE INTRUSIVE OR

                    WHICH CONSTITUTES AN UNWARRANTED INVASION OF PRIVACY IN THE CONTEXT OF

                    A STANDARD OR ORDINARY THEFT CLAIM.

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                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  THANK YOU.  NOW, WHAT -- I

                    MEAN, YOU STATE IN THE BILL HERE THAT THE DISCOVERED MATERIALS -- IF

                    UNDER THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THE DISCOVERED MATERIALS NEED TO

                    DIRECTLY RELATE TO A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL FACTS OF THE CLAIM.  NOW, IF

                    SOMEONE HAS A VERY TROUBLED BUSINESS AND MAKES SEVERAL CLAIMS ON

                    THEIR PERSONAL INSURANCE, HOW WOULD THE INSURANCE COMPANY GO ABOUT

                    FINDING OUT THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO START LOOKING INTO A CLAIM IN THE

                    FIRST PLACE?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  THEY CAN DO THAT THROUGH THEIR

                    ORDINARY INVESTIGATORY PROCEDURES OTHER THAN ASKING THE IRRELEVANT AND

                    UNCONNECTED PERSONAL AND INTRUSIVE INFORMATION LISTED IN THE BILL.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  NOW, THIS BILL WAS WRITTEN

                    OR INTRODUCED MANY YEARS AGO, I THINK ALMOST -- ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO.

                    A LOT HAS CHANGED IN THE CLAIMS INVESTIGATIONS CONDUCTED BY ALMOST ALL

                    INSURANCE COMPANIES NOW.  IN MANY CASES, AND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW

                    YEARS (INAUDIBLE), AI ALGORITHMS ARE USED TO SCOUR THE INTERNET, TO LOOK

                    FOR INFORMATION RELATED TO A -- A CLAIMANT OR A CLAIM.  HOW -- HOW

                    WOULD THAT AFFECT THOSE COMPANIES USING THOSE ALGORITHMS IF THEY'RE

                    ABLE TO FIND ON THE INTERNET, SAY, INFORMATION ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL'S

                    BUSINESS THAT MAY PROMPT THEM TO WANT TO HAVE A FURTHER INVESTIGATION

                    OF A CLAIM?  WOULD THAT BE -- WOULD THEY BE VIOLATING THIS LAW IF THEY

                    WERE ABLE TO USE PUBLICLY-AVAILABLE INFORMATION, SAY, RELATED TO YOUR

                    BUSINESS THAT WOULD GIVE THEM PAUSE FOR -- FOR MAKING OR STARTING AN

                    INVESTIGATION WHERE THEY WOULD THEN INITIATE ASKING FOR MORE

                    INFORMATION (INAUDIBLE)?

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                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, THEY'RE -- THEY'RE CERTAINLY

                    FREE TO, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE SOMEBODY, GO ON -- ON THE INTERNET TO FIND

                    OUT INFORMATION, BUT THIS RELATES TO DEMANDING PERSONAL AND IRRELEVANT

                    INFORMATION.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  I GUESS MY ISSUE HERE IS THE

                    FACT THAT I JUST THINK YOU'D HAVE SOME -- SOME VERY LITIGIOUS ISSUES

                    SURROUNDING THIS DIRECTLY RELATES TO PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL FACTS RELATED TO

                    THE THEFT.  BECAUSE IF THESE ALGORITHMS START TO SEE ISSUES WITHIN

                    SOMEONE'S LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE RELEVANT FACTS THAT SPECIFIC CLAIM THAT MAY

                    WARRANT FURTHER INVESTIGATION, WOULD THAT NOT BE IN VIOLATION OF, YOU

                    KNOW, SOME OF THE LIMITS YOU TRY AND PLACE HERE WITHIN YOUR NEWER

                    VERSIONS OF THE GENERAL BUSINESS PRACTICES (INAUDIBLE) THE INSURANCE

                    LAW?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  THE -- THE BILL IS MEANT TO STOP

                    INSURANCE COMPANIES FROM ASKING FOR INFORMATION THAT, FRANKLY, THEY

                    HAVE NO BUSINESS ASKING FOR, THAT THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS KNOWING AND

                    THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ASKING.  I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I -- I SUPPOSE YOU

                    COULD SAY OFTEN THEY WOULD GO ON SOME KIND OF FISHING EXPEDITION, BUT

                    THAT'S NOT REALLY THEIR JOB.  I UNDERSTAND THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES DON'T

                    LIKE TO PAY OUT MONEY TO CLAIMANTS EVEN WHEN -- SOMETIMES WHEN THE

                    -- IT'S WELL-DESERVED, BUT THEY CERTAINLY CAN SEARCH FOR INFORMATION.

                    WHAT THEY CAN'T DO UNDER THIS LEGISLATION IS INSIST UPON INFORMATION

                    SUCH AS THE ONES I'VE LISTED, I WON'T LIST IT AGAIN, BECAUSE IF IT HAS

                    NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CLAIM THEN, FRANKLY, IT'S NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  NOW, I WOULD SAY ALMOST

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                    ALWAYS WHEN -- I'M AN INSURANCE BROKER -- WHEN I HAVE SOMEONE

                    SUBMITTING A CLAIM TO ME I ALWAYS ASK FOR A POLICE REPORT TO PROVIDE TO

                    THE INSURANCE COMPANY SO THEY CAN START THE CLAIMS PROCESS.  IF THOSE

                    POLICE REPORTS SHOW REASON FOR A CONCERN THAT THE MISSING ITEM MAY OR

                    MAY NOT BE THEFT, WOULD THAT WARRANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO ASK FOR SOME

                    OF THESE NECESSARY ITEMS?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE

                    INSURERS MAY REQUEST SUCH INFORMATION IF THERE IS SPECIALLY -- AND I'M

                    READING THE WORDS HERE -- ARTICULABLE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST WHICH

                    DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY, RELATE TO THE INDIVIDUAL FACTS OF A THEFT CLAIM AND

                    WHICH WARRANT THE MAKING OF SUCH DEMAND FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF

                    DETERMINING IF SUCH CLAIM IS FRAUDULENT.  SO THIS DOESN'T TOTALLY BAN

                    THEM FROM ASKING FOR CERTAIN INFORMATION, BUT SOMETHING WOULD HAVE

                    TO COME TO LIGHT.  IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES, THEN THEY CAN ASK

                    FOR INFORMATION, BUT THEY CAN'T JUST WILLY-NILLY ASK FOR INFORMATION

                    BECAUSE THEY'RE NOSEY.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  SO, HOW -- I'M GUESSING THE

                    DETERMINING FACTOR WOULD BE DFS WOULD DECIDE WHETHER THOSE

                    CIRCUMSTANCES ARE -- THOSE ARTICULABLE CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD BE

                    SUFFICIENT TO QUALIFY FOR THEM ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I GUESS IF THE INSURANCE COMPANY

                    WANTS TO BE EXTREMELY LITIGIOUS, THEY COULD TRY TO LITIGATE THE MATTER.

                    BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE OVERLY LITIGIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  WELL, THEN I'M -- I'M STILL

                    CURIOUS WHO -- WHO WOULD BE THE -- THE DETERMINANT THAT IT IS A SPECIAL

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                    CIRCUMSTANCE OR NOT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, I GUESS THE INSURANCE

                    COMPANY CAN TRY TO CLAIM THAT THERE ARE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND IF

                    THE INSURED SAYS, NO, NO SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS,

                    THEN THE INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LITIGATE

                    THAT.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  I WAS GOING TO SAY READING

                    BETWEEN THE LINES IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING EVERY TIME THEY

                    SUSPECT SOMETHING, THEY SHOULD SUE NOW.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I'M NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD SUE AT

                    ALL, AND NOR AM I SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD ALWAYS SUSPECT SOMETHING.

                    BUT LET'S BE HONEST HERE.  MOST INSURANCE COMPANIES MOST OF THE TIME

                    TRY TO DO EVERY LAST THING THEY CAN, WHETHER IT'S THEFT INSURANCE,

                    WHETHER IT'S CAR INSURANCE, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL INSURANCE, TO NOT PAY

                    OUT A PENNY TO THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING THEM LOTS OF MONEY TO

                    BE INSURED IN THE FIRST PLACE.  AND ALL THIS IS MEANT TO DO IS TO PREVENT,

                    BEST AS POSSIBLE, AND PROTECT PEOPLE FROM BEING ASKED INFORMATION

                    WHICH -- WHICH THE INSURANCE COMPANY REALLY HAS NO BUSINESS KNOWING

                    AND WHICH HAS NO DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE CLAIM THAT'S BEING MADE.  IF

                    THERE IS A REASON FOR THERE TO BE A CONNECTION, THEN, AS I SAID, THEY CAN

                    DO THAT.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  I -- ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU.

                    THANK YOU SO MUCH.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  YOU'RE WELCOME.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  MR. SPEAKER, ON THE BILL,

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                    PLEASE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE BILL, SIR.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  THIS BILL I THINK HAS VERY,

                    VERY LAUDABLE GOALS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON THE INSURANCE

                    CONSUMER WHO MAY MAKE A CLAIM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, ON -- ON ALL

                    INSURANCE LINES IN THE UNITED STATES THERE'S ABOUT 300 MILLION -- I'M

                    SORRY, $300 BILLION IN FALSE CLAIMS MADE EVERY YEAR.  THE LOSS TO

                    INSURANCE FRAUD PARTICULARLY RELATING TO THEFT, THE NUMBER IS NOT AS LARGE

                    BUT IT IS STILL VERY CONCERNING AND LEADS TO INCREASES IN OUR PREMIUMS.

                    IF SOMEONE IS NOT COMMITTING INSURANCE FRAUD, SIMPLY PROVIDING BASIC

                    FINANCIAL INFORMATION TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES WOULD HELP REDUCE

                    BAD ACTORS FROM BEING ABLE TO SUCCEED IN -- IN STEALING FROM INSURANCE

                    COMPANIES.  I BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WAY

                    THAT THE CLAIMS WITHIN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY IS EVOLVING AND WILL

                    CONTINUE TO EVOLVE, AND I WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEGATIVE.

                                 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  A PARTY VOTE HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THE

                    MINORITY CONFERENCE WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS PIECE OF

                    LEGISLATION.  IF MEMBERS WISH TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE THEY MAY DO SO

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                    AT THEIR DESKS.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY CONFERENCE IS GENERALLY GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF

                    THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION; HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE SOME COLLEAGUES THAT

                    WOULD DESIRE TO BE AN EXCEPTION.  AT THEIR DESKS THEY CAN TAKE THAT

                    OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. BLANKENBUSH FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN EXPLANATION

                    OF HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. BLANKENBUSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  IN

                    1986, I STARTED AN INDEPENDENT INSURANCE AGENCY AND JUST SOLD IT LAST

                    YEAR SO YOU DON'T HAVE OUTSIDE INCOME, BY THE WAY.  BUT A COUPLE OF

                    COMMENTS THAT THE SPONSOR SAID.  OF ALL THE YEARS THAT I WAS IN THE

                    BUSINESS, IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS, IN THE PROPERTY CASUALTY BUSINESS,

                    THERE MAY HAVE BEEN FIVE INCIDENTS ALL THOSE YEARS THAT I HAD A CLIENT

                    CALL ME AND TOLD ME, THE BIG BAD INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOT PAYING

                    MY CLAIM.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- I BELIEVE WHEN I TOOK MY CE CLASS,

                    BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A CE CLASS EVERY TWO YEARS TO GET YOUR --

                    KEEP YOUR LICENSE, THE ONE COURSE I TOOK WAS FRAUD.  AND IF YOU WANT TO

                    TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT CAUSES INSURANCE PREMIUMS TO GO UP, TAKE A COURSE

                    ON FRAUD.  BECAUSE WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT THAT'S -- THAT IS ALWAYS A

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                    PROBLEM IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.  BACK THEN THEY WERE TELLING US IN

                    THAT CLASS -- BY THE WAY, THE CLASS THAT NEW YORK STATE DID, IT WAS THEIR

                    COURSE -- NEW YORK STATE WAS TELLING ME BACK THEN, IT MIGHT BE

                    DIFFERENT NOW, $52 MILLION A YEAR IS SPENT ON FRAUDULENT CLAIMS.  A

                    MILLION A WEEK.  THE CONSUMER SOMETIMES SAYS, WELL, WE CAN CLAIM

                    THIS BECAUSE OF THE BIG BAD INSURANCE COMPANIES, AND THEN WHO --

                    WHO'S IT GOING TO AFFECT?  IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE CONSUMER.  IT'S GOING

                    TO AFFECT YOU.  SO IF WE PUT HANDCUFFS ON THE CLAIMS ADJUSTERS AND THE

                    INSURANCE COMPANIES, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE STATE OF NEW

                    YORK IS THAT FRAUDULENT CLAIMS WILL GO UP, MORE FRAUDULENT CLAIMS WILL

                    HIT US IN THE WALLET BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE PRICE OF INSURANCE,

                    THE PRICE TO THE CONSUMER IS GOING UP.  SO FOR ALL THE GOOD CONSUMERS

                    THAT HAVE PAID THEIR PREMIUMS OVER THE YEARS, THE BAD ACTORS ARE GOING

                    TO COME AT US WITH PREMIUM INCREASES BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE

                    INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL ADJUST THEIR LOSSES.  SO, $52 MILLION A YEAR.

                    THAT -- THAT WAS BACK WHEN I TOOK MY FRAUD CLASS.  I DON'T EVEN KNOW

                    WHAT IT WOULD BE NOW.  $1 MILLION A WEEK.  AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS

                    WE'RE ALLOWING THE INSURANCE COMPANIES NOT TO -- NOT TO EVEN

                    INVESTIGATE PROPERLY.  I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ORDINARY THEFT IS.  THEFT

                    IS THEFT, AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT ORDINARY THEFT.  AND THAT'S THE

                    PROBLEM WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING ACROSS OUR -- OUR SOCIETY WITH THAT,

                    ORDINARY THEFT.  SO MY TWO MINUTES IS UP?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  I THINK YOU'VE EXPEND

                    -- TELL US HOW YOU VOTE.

                                 MR. BLANKENBUSH:  I DIDN'T HEAR THE DING.  SO, I

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                    -- I WILL BE VOTING NO.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU SO VERY

                    MUCH, MR. BLANKENBUSH.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE, WITH A TIME LIMIT.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  OH, I GET A TIME LIMIT.  I HEARD THE

                    DING LOUDLY AND CLEARLY.  I'LL BE HONEST, I GET ANNOYED WHEN SPONSORS

                    HAVE TO EXPLAIN THEIR VOTE, BUT I DO HAVE TO CLARIFY ONE OR TWO THINGS.

                    I'LL SPEAK RAPIDLY SINCE I WILL STICK TO THE TWO MINUTES.  MAYBE THINGS

                    ARE DIFFERENT, YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT REALITY THAN I AM.  WE GET PEOPLE

                    COMING TO OUR OFFICE ALL THE TIME, NOT EVERY DAY, BUT WE GET A LOT OF IT

                    WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING DENIED BY INSURANCE COMPANIES.  AND, YOU

                    KNOW, WHEN AN INSURANCE COMPANY -- I'M NOT SAYING ALL THESE

                    COMPANIES ARE BAD BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE NOT, BUT WHEN AN INSURANCE

                    COMPANY DENIES AS A DEFAULT POSITION CLAIMS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT KIND

                    OF INSURANCE IT IS, TO ME, THAT'S A KIND OF FRAUD IF THE PERSON DESERVES TO

                    BE PAID.  SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FRAUD, THERE'S FRAUD ON ONE SIDE,

                    THERE'S FRAUD ON ANOTHER SIDE.  BUT NOT EVERYBODY IS COMMITTING FRAUD.

                    BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL ISN'T TO HURT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, IT'S TO

                    PROTECT OUR OWN CONSTITUENTS, PEOPLE WHO PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR

                    INSURANCE AND WHO ARE ENTITLED TO NOT BEING ASKED QUESTIONS THAT HAVE

                    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CLAIM THAT'S BEING MADE.  THIS IS NOT

                    GOING TO, IN MY OPINION, RAISE ANYBODY'S RATES UNLESS INSURANCE

                    COMPANIES DECIDE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO JUST RAISE PEOPLE'S

                    RATES.  BUT THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON IT.  BUT WHEN IT COMES TO

                    FRAUD, ONE CAN EASILY ARGUE THAT FRAUD IS NOT UNIQUE TO ONE SIDE.  YOU

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                    KNOW, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AREN'T ALL ANGELIC COMPANIES THAT ARE

                    OUT TO HELP PEOPLE, THEY'RE OUT TO MAKE MONEY.  AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT

                    TO MAKE MONEY, BUT NOT OFF THE BACKS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND CERTAINLY

                    NOT BY DOING THINGS THAT MANY OF US WOULD CONSIDER WRONG.  SO THIS

                    LEGISLATION CURES SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD WITH

                    BEING ASKED FOR INFORMATION IN ORDER TO BLOCK THEM FROM GETTING PAID

                    ON A CLAIM THAT -- TO WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED.

                                 SO BECAUSE TWO MINUTES IS PROBABLY APPROACHING, I

                    WILL STICK TO THE RULES AND VOTE YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. DINOWITZ IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE IN A TIMELY FASHION.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, IF WE COULD

                    NOW GO TO RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU VERY


                    MUCH.  PAGE 3, ASSEMBLY NO. 575, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 575, MS.

                    RAJKUMAR.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 28, 2023 AS NEPALI-AMERICAN HERITAGE

                    DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

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                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 576, MR.

                    BURDICK.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 22-28, 2023 AS PERIOD POVERTY

                    AWARENESS WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 577, MR.

                    MAGNARELLI.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 18-24, 2023 AS DIAPER NEED

                    AWARENESS WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 578, MR.

                    CUNNINGHAM.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2023 AS PERIPHERAL ARTERIAL

                    DISEASE AWARENESS MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

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                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 579, MR.

                    DESTEFANO.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2023 AS DYSTONIA AWARENESS

                    MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. DESTEFANO ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. DESTEFANO:  I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I'M

                    BACK.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO TALK ABOUT MY

                    RESOLUTION.  DYSTONIA IS A RELATIVELY UNKNOWN NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER

                    THAT AFFECTS MANY PEOPLE WORLDWIDE.  THE CONDITION CAUSES MUSCLE

                    SPASMS AND CON -- CONTRACTIONS THAT CAN BE PAINFUL AND DEBILITATING,

                    LEADING TO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PATIENTS' QUALITY OF LIFE.  DESPITE THIS,

                    DYSTONIA AWARENESS IS LIMITED, WITH MANY PEOPLE LIVING WITH THE

                    CONDITION UNDIAGNOSED AND UNTREATED.  DYSTONIA CAN AFFECT PEOPLE OF

                    ALL AGES, GENDERS AND ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS, AND MAY OCCUR IN ANY PART

                    OF THE BODY.  THE SYMPTOMS OF DYSTONIA VARY FROM MILD TO SEVERE, AND

                    THE CONDITION CAN BE PROGRESSIVELY WORSE OVER TIME.  SOME PATIENTS

                    FIND THEIR SYMPTOMS AND PRESENT ALL THE TIME, WHILE OTHERS EXPERIENCE

                    INTERMITTENTLY MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO PREDICT WHEN THEY WILL OCCUR.

                    DYSTONIA IS CAUSED BY AN AB -- ABNORMALITY IN THE BRAIN'S BASAL GANGLIA

                    WHICH CONTROLS MOVEMENT.  THE CONDITION MAY BE IDIOPATHIC, WHICH

                    MEANS THE CAUSE IS UNKNOWN.  OR IT CAN BE CAUSED BY OTHER FACTORS

                    SUCH AS TRAUMA, INFECTIONS, STROKE AND MEDICATIONS.  THE SYMPTOMS OF

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                    DYSTONIA CAN BE CHALLENGING TO MANAGE, AND MOST PATIENTS RECEIVE A

                    VARIETY OF TREATMENTS INCLUDING ORAL MEDICATIONS, INJECTIONS OR BOTOX,

                    SURGERY AND PHYSICAL THERAPY.  HOWEVER, DESPITE THESE TREATMENTS

                    MANY PEOPLE LIVING WITH DYSTONIA EXPERIENCE A QUALITY OF LIFE DUE TO

                    THE IMPACT OF THE CONDITION THEY FACE ON A DAILY BASIS.  THERE'S A CLEAR

                    -- THERE'S A CLEAR NEED FOR INCREASED DYSTONIA AWARENESS TO BETTER

                    MANAGE THE CONDITION AND IMPROVE PATIENT OUTCOMES.  AWARENESS CAN

                    LEAD TO A MORE SIGNIFICANT UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONDITION, INCREASE

                    RESEARCHING -- RESEARCH, FUNDING AND BETTER SUPPORT FOR THOSE AFFECTED

                    BY THE CONDITION.  TO INCREASE DYSTONIA AWARENESS, EDUCATION IS KEY.

                    HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS NEED TO BE MORE AWARE OF THE SIGNS AND

                    SYMPTOMS OF DYSTONIA TO IMPROVE EARLY DIAGNOSIS AND APPRECIATE --

                    APPROPRIATELY TREAT THEM.  ADDITIONALLY, THE GENERAL PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE

                    EDUCATED ABOUT THIS DISORDER, ITS CAUSES AND SYMPTOMS.  SOCIAL MEDIA

                    AND OTHER FORMS OF DIGITAL COMMUNICATION CAN BE VALUABLE TOOLS IN

                    RAISING AWARENESS OF DYSTONIA.  PATIENT GROUPS AND ADVOCACY

                    ORGANIZATIONS CAN UTILIZE THE PLATFORMS TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS

                    DISORDER, CONNECT WITH OTHER PATIENTS AND RAISE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT

                    THE SYMPTOMS, TREATMENTS, OPTIONS AND THE IMPACT OF THE CONDITION IN

                    THEIR PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.  ULTIMATELY, INCREASED DYSTONIA

                    AWARENESS CAN LEAD TO MORE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ON NEW

                    TREATMENTS TO MANAGE THE CONDITION BETTER, WHICH CAN HELP IMPROVE

                    PATIENT OUTCOMES.  IT ALSO CAN SUPPORT THOSE LIVING WITH THE CONDITION

                    TO REDUCE STIGMA, CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOCIAL SUPPORT AND

                    IMPROVING THEIR OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.

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                                 IN CONCLUSION, DYSTONIA AWARENESS IS ESSENTIAL TO

                    IMPROVE THE DIAGNOSIS, TREATMENT AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF PATIENTS LIVING

                    WITH THE CONDITION.  THROUGH EDUCATION, PATIENT GROUPS AND ADVOCACY

                    ORGANIZATIONS, WE CAN RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT DYSTONIA AND PROMOTE A

                    BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF ITS IMPACT ON PATIENTS, FAMILIES AND SOCIETY AS A

                    WHOLE.

                                 I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR ALLOWING ME TO

                    SPEAK ON THIS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.  AND THANK YOU AGAIN,

                    MR. SPEAKER.  I KNOW IT'S LONG SOMETIMES, BUT IT'S -- IT IS A VERY

                    IMPORTANT DISEASE THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR --

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK.  ON THE RESOLUTION, SIR?

                                 MR. FITZPATRICK:  ON THE RESOLUTION.  I WANT TO

                    THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING IT UP.  DYSTONIA IS AN AFFLICTION THAT HAS

                    AFFECTED MY MOTHER SINCE 1983.  SHE HAS WHAT'S CALLED SPASMODIC

                    TORTICOLLIS.  SHE WAS TAKING AN EXPERIMENTAL DRUG CALLED BOTOX BEFORE

                    FDA APPROVAL ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO GET SOME RELIEF.  SHE DID NOT GET

                    RELIEF.  SHE HAD TWO SURGERIES IN MONTREAL, CANADA TO GET SOME RELIEF,

                    IT WORKED FOR A WHILE.  IT'S A HORRIBLE AFFLICTION.  SHE SUFFERS WITH IT TO

                    THIS DAY.  AND I REALLY -- I THANK THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE

                    IT CAUSED GREAT PAIN TO MY MOTHER AND SHE STILL SUFFERS WITH IT TO THIS

                    DAY.  SO THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    FITZPATRICK.

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                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 580, MR.

                    HEVESI.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2023 AS KINSHIP CARE MONTH IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 581, MS.

                    JACKSON.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 9, 2023 AS SNEAKERS DAY IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. JACKSON ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. JACKSON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, FOR

                    ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION.  IT'S SNEAKER [SIC] DAY IN NEW

                    YORK.  I REMEMBER THE SONG, "MY ADIDAS" BY RUN DMC.  I'M SURE

                    SOME OF YOU REMEMBER THAT SONG AND THE MICHAEL JACK -- THE MICHAEL

                    JORDAN COMMERCIALS WHERE EVERYONE WANTED TO BE LIKE MIKE.  WE --

                    THE SNEAKER CULTURE HAS GONE MAINSTREAM.  IT HAS BECOME EXTREMELY

                    PROFITABLE.  WE ARE IN A TIME WHERE SNEAKERS HAVE MADE ITS WAY ONTO

                    THE OVAL OFFICE FLOOR, AND AGAINST OUR SERGEANT-AT-ARMS WAYNE

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                    JACKSON'S APPROVAL, SNEAKERS HAVE BEEN WORN IN HERE BY SOME

                    PROMINENT MEMBERS.  YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE ROCKING THEIR AIR FORCE

                    ONES AND THEIR RETRO JORDANS AND THEIR CHUCK TAYLORS.  YOU'LL HEAR

                    MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.  THEY'RE CHUCK TAYLORS AND YEEZYS AND SOME

                    OF US, OR EVEN OUR ALEXANDER MCQUEEN.  I ALSO RECALL A TIME, MR.

                    SPEAKER, NOT ME, BUT MY PEERS, WOULD SKIP SCHOOL TO GO GET A PAIR OF

                    SNEAKERS, AND PEOPLE WOULD STAND IN LINE FOR HOURS TO -- TO MAKE SURE

                    THEY GOT THAT EXCLUSIVE PAIR.  AND I REMEMBER A TIME, UNFORTUNATELY, OF

                    PEOPLE BEING ROBBED OF THEIR SNEAKERS, ALL BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTED TO

                    BE A PART OF THE CULTURE.  NOW WE SEE PEOPLE AT HOME ON APPS,

                    PURCHASING EXCLUSIVE PAIRS AND HOPING TO GET A WIN ON A PAIR OF

                    SNEAKERS.  I KNOW THIS -- THIS MAY SOUND LIKE FOREIGN LANGUAGE TO SOME

                    OF YOU ALL, BUT YOUR KIDS, IF YOU WERE TO ASK THEM, THEY WOULD KNOW A

                    LOT ABOUT IT.  THEY SIT ON THEIR COMPUTERS AND THEY WISH FOR THAT

                    EXCLUSIVE PAIR.  AND SO I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY A YOUNG WOMAN, A YOUNG

                    GIRL WAS ACTUALLY VISITING US IN ALBANY, AND SHE SAID, YOU ARE THE

                    COOLEST ASSEMBLYMEMBER BECAUSE YOU HAVE ON A PAIR OF SNEAKERS

                    WHEN EVERYONE ELSE WAS WEARING HEELS.  NOW, THE MEN MAY NOT

                    UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT WEARING HEELS FROM THE LOB TO THE CAPITOL IS

                    EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.  AND SO I'M GRATEFUL TODAY THAT WE ARE

                    ACKNOWLEDGING SNEAKER [SIC] DAY HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, MS.

                    JACKET.

                                 MS. GIGLIO ON THE RESOLUTION.

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                                 MS. GIGLIO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  AND I WANT

                    TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR THIS GREAT RESOLUTION.  AND ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO

                    MOM AND DADS IS IF YOU FIND A BOX AND THE SNEAKERS ARE NOT IN IT, DO

                    NOT THROW AWAY THE BOX.  THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.  THANK YOU, MR.

                    SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE WHO -- ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE;

                    OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 582, MR.

                    MAHER.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 23-29, 2023 AS RESPIRATORY CARE

                    WEEK IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. MAHER ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. MAHER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE TODAY

                    TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION.  IT'S VERY PERSONAL FOR ME.  THERE'S A LOT OF

                    FOLKS THAT ARE SUFFERING WITH COPD, ASTHMA.  MY FATHER-IN-LAW

                    SUFFERED FROM IDIOPATHIC PULMONARY FIBROSIS.  HIS NAME WAS JIM

                    MILLER, AND HE IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, AND HE IS

                    NO LONGER WITH US.  I JUST WANTED TO STAND UP HERE TODAY, SAY HIS NAME,

                    MEMORIALIZE HIM, AND ALSO JUST TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR THE DOCTORS,

                    NURSES AND RESPIRATORY THERAPISTS THAT DO SO MUCH HARD WORK TO REALLY

                    IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF PEOPLE LIKE MY FATHER-IN-LAW WHO WAS A

                    GREAT MAN, HARDWORKING MAN.  WE ALL WISH HE WAS HERE, BUT WE ARE SO

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                    THANKFUL FOR THESE PROFESSIONALS THAT HELPED IMPROVE HIS QUALITY OF LIFE

                    DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.  ALSO, BRODY WEDDELL-DEGROODT, WHO IS AN

                    INTERN OF MINE, SUFFERED FROM ASTHMA AND HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT

                    I MENTIONED THAT WE FOCUS ON THE EDUCATION COMPONENT BECAUSE IT WAS

                    THAT EDUCATION IN A CLASS THAT HE TOOK THAT ALLOWED HIM TO GET THE

                    EDUCATION HE NEEDED TO IMPROVE HIS DIET AND DO THINGS THAT ALLOWS HIM

                    TO NOT EVEN NEED AN INHALER THESE DAYS.  SO, BRODY AND OUR TEAM IS

                    GONNA WORK ON SOME EDUCATION EVENTS IN OCTOBER WHEN WE HAVE THIS

                    WEEK, AND WE ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR COLLEAGUES HERE TO DO THE SAME.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 583, MS.

                    JEAN-PIERRE.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 28, 2023 AS CHUCKS-N-PEARLS DAY

                    IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. JEAN-PIERRE ON

                    THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. JEAN-PIERRE:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WE

                    GO FROM CHUCKS TO SNEAKERS.  SNEAKERS ARE CHUCKS, BUT THEY'RE MUCH

                    MORE CLASSIER.  CHUCKS-N-SNEAKERS [SIC] DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW

                    YORK.  LATANGA RANEY FOUNDED CHUCKS-N-PEARLS DAY IN 2021.  IT'S

                    CELEBRATED ON OCTOBER 28TH EVERY YEAR TO HONOR THE SIMPLE BUT UNIQUE

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                    DRESSING STYLE OF KAMALA HARRIS, THE FIRST FEMALE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE

                    UNITED STATES AND FIRST WOMAN TO DELIVER A COMMENCEMENT SPEECH AT

                    WEST POINT, WHO IS TO KNOWN FOR WEARING -- WEARING HER CONVERSE

                    SNEAKERS AND PEARLS TO NUMEROUS NOTABLE EVENTS.  SO TODAY WE

                    CELEBRATE CHUCKS-N-PEARLS, AND I'M SO HONORED TO LEAD THE LEGISLATIVE

                    WOMEN'S CAUCUS WHERE WE'RE A BIPARTISAN ORGANIZATION OF 73 WOMEN,

                    AND I'M SO PROUD THAT WE ARE WEARING OUR CHUCKS AND OUR PEARLS.  AND

                    MANY ORGANIZATIONS WEAR THEIR PEARLS AND PEARLS SIGNIFICANT -- SIGNIF --

                    SIGNIFIES ELEGANCE, AND SO MANY WOMEN ORGANIZATIONS, SO MANY

                    SORORITY ORGANIZATIONS HONOR WEARING THEIR PEARLS.  SO KAMALA HARRIS

                    WEARS HER CHUCKS AND PEARLS, AND TODAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK WE

                    ALL WEAR OUR CHUCKS AND PEARLS ON OUR KAMALA HARRIS AND WE'LL

                    CELEBRATE AGAIN ON OCTOBER 28TH.

                                 AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 584, MR.

                    ZEBROWSKI.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2023 AS POLISH AMERICAN HERITAGE

                    MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION,

                    MS. GIGLIO.

                                 MS. GIGLIO:  YES.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  AS THE

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                    REPRESENTATIVE OF RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK, WHICH IS CONSIDERED POLISH

                    TOWN U.S.A., I AM HAPPY TO REPRESENT THE POLISH COMMUNITY AND THE

                    IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME TO NEW YORK STATE.  AND THE THIRD SATURDAY OF

                    AUGUST WE HAVE THE POLISH STREET FEST WHERE POLISH HALL WILL HAVE A

                    POLISH WEDDING, THEY'LL HAVE A POLISH RECEPTION.  THEY'LL HAVE THE

                    POLISH DANCERS, THEY'LL HAVE THE POLKA BANDS.  SO I INVITE YOU ALL TO

                    COME AND ENJOY SOME KIELBASA SANDWICHES WITH THE POLISH COMMUNITY

                    OF THE GREAT TOWN OF RIVERHEAD.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BROWN.

                                 MR. K.  BROWN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'LL BE

                    VERY BRIEF.  MY MOTHER WOULD KILL ME IF I DIDN'T STAND UP AND SAY

                    SOMETHING BECAUSE HER LAST NAME WAS TENCZA, WHICH MEANS "RAINBOW"

                    IN POLISH.  SO I WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKER -- THE SPONSOR OF THE

                    RESOLUTION FOR DOING THIS TODAY AND WHEN I WAS A KID I USED TO GO TO

                    POLISH TOWN EVERY YEAR FOR THAT FAIR, IT'S A WONDERFUL FAIR.  SO THANK

                    YOU VERY MUCH.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 585, MR.

                    BRONSON.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2023 AS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS

                    MONTH IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE HAVE BOTH, MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MR. EPSTEIN, PAGE 38, CALENDAR NO.

                    172, BILL NO. A.4750, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. RAJKUMAR, PAGE 14, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 338, BILL NO. A.3301, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 NUMEROUS FINE RESOLUTIONS, WE WILL TAKE THEM UP WITH

                    ONE VOTE.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 586-593

                    WERE UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I NOW

                    MOVE THAT THE ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED AND THAT WE RECONVENE AT

                    10:00 A.M., 10:00 A.M. ON JUNE THE 1ST, TOMORROW BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED UNTIL TOMORROW, 10:00 A.M.

                                 (WHEREUPON AT 5:49 P.M., THE HOUSE STOOD ADJOURNED

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