MONDAY, MAY 6, 2024                                                                             2:59 P.M.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE HOUSE WILL COME

                    TO ORDER.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

                    OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF FRIDAY, MAY THE 3RD.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I MOVE TO

                    DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF FRIDAY, MAY THE 3RD

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    AND THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

                    ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, SIR.  I'D LIKE

                    TO SHARE A QUOTE TODAY.  THIS ONE IS FROM THOMAS EDISON.  NEED NOT

                    TELL FOLKS WHO HE IS, MOST PEOPLE KNOW WHO THOMAS EDISON IS AND

                    WAS.  HIS WORDS FOR US TODAY, "OUR GREATEST WEAKNESS LIES IN GIVING UP.

                    THE MOST CERTAIN WAY TO SUCCEED IS ALWAYS TO TRY JUST ONE MORE TIME."

                    AGAIN, THE WORDS FROM THOMAS EDISON.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, MEMBERS HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A MAIN

                    CALENDAR WITH 19 NEW BILLS.  WE ALSO HAVE A DEBATE LIST, AND AFTER YOU

                    HAVE DONE ANY HOUSEKEEPING AND/OR INTRODUCT -- HOUSEKEEPING, WE ARE

                    GOING TO GO RIGHT TO PAGE 3 FOR CALENDAR RESOLUTIONS OF WHICH WE DO

                    HAVE A FEW MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK.  AFTERWARDS WE WILL

                    CONSENT THE 19 NEW BILLS BEGINNING WITH CALENDAR NO. 422 ON PAGE 5

                    AND GONNA GO STRAIGHT THROUGH TO CALENDAR NO. 440.  WE'RE GONNA TAKE

                    UP THE FOLLOWING BILLS ON DEBATE:  CALENDAR NO. 93 BY MR. CARROLL,

                    RULES REPORT NO. 18 BY MR. DINOWITZ, CALENDAR NO. 232 BY MS.

                    PAULIN, CALENDAR NO. 312 BY MS. PAULIN, AND CALENDAR NO. 379 BY MR.

                    WEPRIN.  I WILL ANNOUNCE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER FLOOR ACTIVITY WE NEED TO

                    TAKE CARE OF TODAY, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 SO WITH THAT, THAT'S THE GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE

                    ARE TODAY.  IF YOU HAVE INTRODUCTIONS OR HOUSEKEEPING, NOW WOULD BE

                    AN APPROPRIATE TIME, SIR.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE DO HAVE SOME

                    HOUSEKEEPING, MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. ROSENTHAL, PAGE 10, CALENDAR

                    NO. 3, BILL A.00048-B, THE AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 ON A MOTION BY MS. ROSENTHAL, PAGE 12, CALENDAR

                    NO. 21, BILL NO. A00517, AMENDMENTS ARE RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION, MS. STILLETTI [SIC].

                                 MS. SILLITTI:  ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    I'M HERE TODAY WITH TWO VERY SPECIAL GUESTS, BUT I THINK ONE OF THEM IS

                    A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIAL THAN THE OTHER ONE.  NO OFFENSE.  SO, I'VE BEEN

                    AWAY FROM ALBANY FOR A FEW MONTHS, BUT NOW I'M BACK WITH MY SON

                    WILLIAM BENEDETTO CLEMENCY -- NO RELATION TO MR. BENEDETTO, BUT IT'LL

                    HELP ME GET SOME EDUCATION AID, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER -- AND THIS LITTLE

                    ONE WAS A LONG TIME COMING.  MANY, MANY YEARS OF TRYING AND FAILING

                    AND HEARTACHE AND GIVING UP AND THEN STARTING OVER AND, YOU KNOW, WE

                    WERE JUST LIKE, EH, LET'S TRY ONE MORE TIME, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.  WELL,

                    THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL AND SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THANK YOU.  AND IF YOU CAN GIVE HIM THE PRIVILEGES OF

                    THE FLOOR.  HE'S AWAKE NOW.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON BEHALF OF YOUR

                    MOTHER AND FATHER --

                                 MS. SILLITTI:  BY THE WAY, AND THIS IS MY HUSBAND

                    KEVIN CLEMENCY.

                                 (LAUGHTER)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE THOUGHT HE HAD

                    SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS, RIGHT.

                                 ON BEHALF OF YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER, THE SPEAKER AND

                    ALL THE MEMBERS, WILLIAM, WE WELCOME YOU TO THE NEW YORK STATE

                    ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  AS A FAMILY

                    MEMBER YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A MEMBER, AND WE ARE DELIGHTED THAT

                    YOU'RE WITH US TODAY.  CONGRATULATIONS.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. JONES FOR THE PURPOSE OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. JONES:  MR. SPEAKER, IT'S A PLEASURE TO

                    INTRODUCE A GENTLEMAN I HAVE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS.  IT'S ADIRONDACK

                    DAY HERE IN THE NEW YORK STATE CAPITOL.  YOU CAN APPLAUD THAT, YES.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE HERE SHARING THE STORY OF THE

                    ADIRONDACKS, SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE WE'RE A HAVING RECEPTION 4 TO 6 -- I

                    WON'T GET INTO THAT -- IN THE WELL.  BUT WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN HERE BY

                    THE NAME OF MR. JIM MCKENNA.  JIM IS CURRENTLY THE CO-CHAIR OF THE

                    NORTH COUNTRY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, AND HAS BEEN

                    RECOGNIZED STATEWIDE AS A TOP ECONOMIC DEVELOPER.  HIS INITIATIVES AND

                    PROMOTION IN MARKETING TOURISM OF THE ADIRONDACKS ARE UNPARALLELED.

                    HE WAS ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN BRINGING THE 2023 WORLD UNIVERSITY

                    GAMES TO THE NORTH COUNTRY, AND CONTINUES PROMOTING AND MARKETING

                    OUR OLYMPIC LEGACY VENUES.  NOW, MR. MCKENNA WILL BE RETIRING AS

                    THE CEO AND PRESIDENT OF ROOST, THE REGIONAL OFFICE OF SUSTAINABLE

                    TOURISM.  THIS BEING HIS CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT, TURNING ROOST INTO

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    WHAT IT IS TODAY A POWERHOUSE ORGANIZATION IN THE TOURISM MARKETING

                    FIELD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND BEYOND.  WHEN I THINK OF TOP

                    INFLUENCERS IN OUR STATE FOR SPORT, TOURISM, ECONOMIC GROWTH, JIM

                    MCKENNA CERTAINLY IS AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST.

                                 NOW MR. SPEAKER, JIM IS NOT A FAN OF THE WORD

                    "RETIREMENT."  BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT HIS WORK WILL CONTINUE IN THE

                    ADIRONDACKS AND THROUGHOUT, AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM

                    FOR ALL OF HIS DEEDS AND ALL OF HIS GOOD WORKS HERE TODAY.  ON BEHALF OF

                    MEMBERS SMULLEN AND SIMPSON, WOULD YOU PLEASE EXTEND MR.

                    MCKENNA THE CORDIALITIES OF THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE AND EXTEND TO HIM ALL

                    THE DUE GRATITUDE THAT HE DESERVES?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. JONES, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, JIM, WE WELCOME YOU

                    HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE

                    YEARS OF SERVICE THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TO THE ADIRONDACKS, BUT ALSO TO

                    THE STATE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN IT -- IN THE STATE.  WE HOPE THAT YOUR

                    RETIREMENT, WELL DESERVED, IS FULL OF ENJOYMENT AND HAPPINESS AND THAT

                    YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PLAYER IN THE

                    DEVELOPMENT OF THIS STATE'S ECONOMIC BASE.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH,

                    SIR.  WE WELCOME YOU HERE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. DAIS.

                                 MR. DAIS:  MR. SPEAKER -- SORRY, MR. SPEAKER,

                    PLEASE, I HAVE SOME AMAZING GUESTS HERE TODAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO

                    INTRODUCE THE YANKASA ORGANIZATION [SIC].  THE YANKASA ORGANIZATION

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    [SIC] HAS BEEN SERVING MY COMMUNITY FOR OVER 40 YEARS.  THE MAJORITY

                    OF THEIR COMMUNITY IS FROM GHANA, BUT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE JUST

                    SIMILAR TO MANY OF US WHO IMMIGRATED FROM SOME COUNTRY OR LOCATION,

                    CREATED A TAPESTRY OF COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THEIR MEMBERS HAD A

                    PLACE TO STAY, A PLACE TO WORSHIP, A PLACE TO GO TO SCHOOL, FOOD IN THEIR

                    STOMACHS.  NO DIFFERENT FROM THAT FIRST DELEGATION FROM SWEDEN OR ITALY

                    OR IRELAND, IT WAS AN ORGANIZATION THAT SET ROOTS RIGHT HERE IN THE

                    CAPITOL ONE DAY.  I BRING THE YANKASA HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO LET THEM

                    KNOW IN MY COMMUNITY THEY ARE SEEN FOR THE TREMENDOUS WORK THAT

                    THEY DO.  IT DOES NOT MATER ABOUT YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEF, THEY HELP ALL OF

                    THOSE IN MY COMMUNITY.  SPECIFICALLY, I DO WANT TO THANK THE PRESIDENT

                    OF THE YANKASA ORGANIZATION [SIC], BROTHER IBRAHIM ABDULLAHI

                    MASIGAN; VICE PRESIDENT BASHIR KABORE; THE PR BROTHER IBRAHIM

                    AHMED; ALHAJI YAHUZA ABUBAKAR; VICE PRESIDENT BASHIR KABORE, WHO

                    IS ALSO THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF (INAUDIBLE); AND THE OTHER ELDERS OF THE

                    YANKASA.  THEY HAVE WELCOMED ME INTO THEIR PLACE OF WORSHIP, THEY

                    HAVE WELCOMED ME INTO THEIR HOME.  THEY HAVE SEEN AND DONE SO

                    MUCH GREAT WORK IN MY COMMUNITY, FROM -- FROM CLEANUPS TO ENSURING

                    THOSE WHO ARE NEEDY HAVE A PLACE TO STAY.  AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THEIR

                    ORGANIZATION FOR ALL THEY DO IN MY DISTRICT.

                                 GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU, AND PLEASE OFFER THE

                    CORDIALITIES OF THE FLOOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. DAIS, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, GENTLEMEN, WE

                    WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  OUR THANKS AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE WORK

                    THAT YOU'RE DOING IN OUR CITY.  PLEASE CONTINUE THAT GREAT WORK, AND

                    KNOW THAT YOU ALWAYS ARE WELCOME HERE AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE FRIENDS

                    HERE.  MY PLEASURE.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. DARLING FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. DARLING:  OKAY.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    FOR OVER 30 YEARS, THE REGIONAL ALLIANCE FOR SMALL CONTRACTORS, ALSO

                    KNOWN AS RASC, HAS BEEN A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP INCLUSIVE OF

                    LARGE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES SUCH AS THE PORT AUTHORITY OF NEW YORK

                    AND NEW JERSEY, MTA, AND MANY MORE THROUGHOUT NEW YORK STATE.

                    THE ORGANIZATION IS CATEGORIZED AS A 501(C)(3) NON-PROFIT, ESTABLISHED

                    TO ASSIST THE GROWTH OF SMALL MINORITY, WOMEN, DISADVANTAGED AND

                    LOCAL BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.  RASC ACHIEVES ITS OBJECTIVE BY PROMOTING

                    THE ADVANCEMENT OF THESE FIRMS AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND

                    MANAGEMENT.  THEY ALSO PROMOTE POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT IMPROVE

                    THE COMPETITIVE POSITION OF MINORITY BUSINESSES AND EXPAND THE

                    CAPACITY OF THESE FIRMS TO UNDERTAKE CONTRACTS OF INCREASING SIZE AND

                    COMPLEXITY.  AS WE RECOGNIZE OUR MWBES IN NEW YORK STATE HERE

                    TODAY IN ALBANY, I CANNOT THINK OF A BETTER TIME TO RECOGNIZE THIS

                    INCREDIBLE ORGANIZATION.

                                 MR. SPEAKER, WILL YOU PLEASE EXTEND THE CORDIALITIES

                    OF THE HOUSE TO MY BEAUTIFUL GUESTS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. DARLING, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    LADIES HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  WE EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  WE ARE SO PLEASED THAT YOU'RE SHARING YOUR DAY

                    WITH US.  I KNOW WE'VE HAD SPECIAL EVENTS TODAY.  UNDERSTAND HOW

                    IMPORTANT IT IS THAT YOU CONTINUE THE GREAT WORK THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION

                    IS DOING, AND WE'RE JUST DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU.  THANK YOU SO VERY

                    MUCH, AND BE WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE

                    TODAY TO INTRODUCE A SPECIAL GUEST, SANDRA WILKIN.  SHE WAS

                    REAPPOINTED BY GOVERNOR KATHY HOCHUL AS VICE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE

                    BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK IN JUNE OF 2023

                    AND CONFIRMED BY THE STATE SENATE.  SHE IS THE FIRST FEMALE GRADUATE OF

                    BOTH A CUNY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, KINGSBOROUGH, AND A SENIOR

                    COLLEGE, HUNTER, TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE BOARD.  SHE IS

                    CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF BRADFORD CONSTRUCTION.  THIS CONSTRUCTION

                    MANAGEMENT FIRM SHE FOUNDED IN 1989, BASED ON A MISSION TO

                    OPTIMIZE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS ON COMPLEX LARGE-SCALE BUILDING

                    PROJECTS.  SHE WAS THE COFOUNDER OF THE WOMEN'S BUILDERS COUNCIL, AN

                    ORGANIZATION THAT ADVANCES THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN THE BUILDING INDUSTRY,

                    AND THE FIRST WOMAN TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE EXECUTIVE

                    BOARD OF THE NEW YORK BUILDING CONGRESS.  SHE IS A GRADUATE OF

                    KINGSBOROUGH AND HUNTER COLLEGE WITH A DEGREE IN NURSING AND NEW

                    YORK UNIVERSITY.

                                 PLEASE WELCOME HER TO THE CHAMBER TODAY.  THANK

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MS. SEAWRIGHT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, SANDRA, WE

                    WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  THANKS FOR THAT GREAT CAREER THAT YOU'VE GIVEN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THE CITY OF NEW YORK.  CONTINUE YOUR GREAT

                    WORK, YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME HERE.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 AND AGAIN, MS. SEAWRIGHT.

                                 MS. SEAWRIGHT:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE

                    TO INTRODUCE A SPECIAL GUEST ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLYMAN HARVEY

                    EPSTEIN AND MYSELF.  I INTRODUCE MIKE SCHWEINSBURG, WHO HAS LIVED

                    AND WORKED SUCCESSFULLY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, EUROPE AND AFRICA

                    BEFORE DECIDING 25 YEARS AGO TO DEVOTE HIS LIFE TO ACTIVISM AND

                    COMMUNITY SERVICE.  ORIGINALLY A FULL-TIME VOLUNTEER FOR THE

                    ANTIVIOLENCE PROJECT, MIKE TURNED HIS ATTENTION TO POLITICAL ACTIVISM

                    AND COMMUNITY SERVICE WHICH LED HIM TO DISABILITY ADVOCACY,

                    SPECIFICALLY THE 504, THE NATION'S FIRST AND LARGEST ADVOCATING FOR THE

                    CIVIL RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.  HE ORGANIZED NEW YORK CITY'S

                    FIRST DISABILITY RIGHTS PARADE FOR EXCEEDING THE ADMINISTRATION'S

                    EXPECTATION OF 500 TO 800 PEOPLE ATTENDING, WHEN OVER 3,500 PROUD

                    PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY MARCHED AND ROLLED DOWN BROADWAY TO FURTHER

                    BE ENTERTAINED BY THREE HOURS OF MUSIC AND DANCE AT THE DISABILITY

                    PRIDE PARADE FESTIVAL.  SINCE THEN IT HAS BECOME AN ANNUAL EVENT.

                    MAYOR DE BLASIO PROCLAIMED DECLARING JULY AS DISABILITY PRIDE MONTH,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    AND THAT WAS AWARDED TO MIKE FOR HIS CONTINUED ADVOCACY TO MAKE IT

                    HAPPEN.

                                 PLEASE WELCOME HIM TO THE CHAMBER TODAY.  THANK

                    YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  AGAIN, ON

                    BEHALF OF MS. SEAWRIGHT, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE

                    WELCOME YOU HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY, EXTEND TO YOU THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  OUR THANKS AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE

                    CONTRIBUTIONS YOU'VE MADE TO THE CITY AND THE STATE.  CONTINUE THAT

                    WORK, KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALWAYS APPRECIATED HERE.  THANK YOU SO VERY

                    MUCH FOR BEING WITH US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 WE WILL TURN TO RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.  THE CLERK WILL

                    READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2085, MS.

                    HYNDMAN.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM APRIL 2024, AS MINORITY HEALTH MONTH IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2086, MR.

                    RAGA.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM APRIL 23, 2024, AS BOOK AND COPYRIGHT DAY

                    IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2087, MS.

                    ROSENTHAL.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 2024, AS BE KIND TO ANIMALS MONTH

                    IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2088, MR.

                    DURSO.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 3, 2024, AS SKILLED TRADES DAY IN THE

                    STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2089, MS.

                    BARRETT.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 4, 2024, AS VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS'

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    APPRECIATION DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. BARRETT ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. BARRETT:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I PROUDLY

                    -- PROUDLY RISE TODAY TO CELEBRATE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS' APPRECIATION

                    DAY IN RECOGNITION OF THE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN WHO VALIANTLY

                    SERVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.  IN MY OWN DISTRICT THERE ARE 42 FIRE

                    COMPANIES, MOST OF WHICH ARE VOLUNTEER-RUN.  THERE ARE MORE THAN

                    100,000 VOLUNTEER FIGHTER -- FIREFIGHTERS ACROSS NEW YORK STATE, AND

                    THEY ARE OFTEN FROM THE SAME FAMILIES FOR GENERATION AFTER GENERATION,

                    BELOVED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.  THE PEOPLE WHO RUN TOWARDS THE

                    FIRE, WHO RESCUE OUR FAMILY PETS, OUR FAMILY TREASURES AND OUR FAMILY

                    MEMBERS WHEN WE ARE IN CRISIS.  AND WHILE THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS IN THE

                    SENSE THAT THEY'RE NOT PAID, THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS WHO TRAIN, OFTEN AT

                    THEIR OWN EXPENSE, SACRIFICE TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS, AND SERVE IN

                    MANY, MANY CASES FOR DECADES.  VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS PROVIDE VITAL

                    LIFE-SAVING SERVICES WHILE SAVING NEW YORK STATE TAXPAYERS $4 BILLION

                    A YEAR.  WERE WE TO BE PAYING FOR THESE VOLUNTEERS FOR THEIR SERVICES, IT

                    WOULD COST US $4 BILLION IN ADDITIONAL TAXES.  AND MANY OF THESE

                    FIREFIGHTERS SUFFER FROM FINANCIAL INSTABILITY THEMSELVES, DESPITE THE

                    EFFORTS THAT THEY SERVE AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

                    OUR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS ARE DECLINING IN NUMBER, AND IT'S VITAL THAT

                    WE PROVIDE INCENTIVES TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN OUR NEXT GENERATION OF

                    VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.  AND WHILE IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND

                    SUPPORT THESE FIREFIGHTERS THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    THAT WE PASS OUR RESCUE EMS PACKAGE WHICH INCLUDES LEGISLATION THAT

                    I HAVE PROPOSED WHICH WOULD ALLOW VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS TO CLAIM

                    BOTH THE NEW YORK STATE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND AMBULANCE

                    WORKERS INCOME TAX CREDIT AS WELL AS A LOCAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION.

                    THIS PACKAGE OF BILLS WILL HELP ALL OUR COMMUNITIES, MANY OF WHOM

                    ARE -- ARE -- FIREFIGHTERS AND EMS WORKERS ARE PRECLUDED FROM SOME OF

                    THE BENEFITS THAT WE WANT TO SEE THEM HAVE THAT WILL ENCOURAGE AND

                    HELP WITH RECRUITMENT.

                                 IN MY DISTRICT AND ALL THROUGHOUT OUR STATE, WE ARE

                    IMMENSELY GRATEFUL FOR THE SACRIFICES AND HARD WORK OF THESE HEROIC

                    MEN AND WOMEN, AND I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME TODAY IN

                    HONORING OUR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MS. WALSH ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND THANK

                    YOU TO THE SPONSOR FOR BRINGING THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD.  THIS IS A

                    REALLY IMPORTANT ONE.  AS -- AS A MEMBER FROM THE UPSTATE AREA, OUR --

                    ALMOST ALL OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND FIRE SERVICES IN MY DISTRICT ARE

                    VOLUNTEER, AND AS THE -- AS THE SPONSOR SAID, SOME ARE DOING BETTER THAN

                    OTHERS.  THESE ARE FAMILY -- THESE ARE FAMILIES, MULTIGENERATIONAL

                    FAMILIES IN MANY INSTANCES THAT ARE GETTING INVOLVED.  SO MY -- MY

                    FATHER-IN-LAW WAS A -- A CHIEF IN WEST COLESVILLE, A REALLY SMALL DISTRICT

                    DOWN IN BROOME COUNTY, AND WHEN MY HUSBAND AND HIS BROTHER

                    TURNED 16 THEY BECAME JUNIOR FIREFIGHTERS.  AND THAT'S VERY OFTEN HOW

                    YOU SEE IT GO.  I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO THE FAMILIES OF

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    THESE VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A HOLIDAY -- THERE ARE

                    A LOT OF COLD MEALS, THERE ARE A LOT OF MEALS LEFT UNEATEN BECAUSE OF THE

                    CALLS.  AND WE, AS THE LEGISLATURE, OF COURSE WANT OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO BE

                    WELL-TRAINED, SO THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TRAINING

                    REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THESE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS.

                    SO NOT ONLY DO THEY HAVE TO MEET THEIR BASIC -- THE BASIC SKILLS, BUT

                    THEY HAVE TO GO ON FOR SO MUCH ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT IT IS ASKING AN

                    AWFUL LOT OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS.  BUT THEY DO IT, THEY DO IT PROUDLY.  WE'RE

                    -- WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM AND VERY HAPPY FOR THEM.

                                 SO I -- I WANT TO AGAIN THANK -- I DO -- I DO APPRECIATE

                    OUR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS AND I'M SURE THE MEMBERS OF THIS CHAMBER

                    DO AS WELL.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER, AND THANK YOU AGAIN

                    TO THE SPONSOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2090, MS.

                    BICHOTTE HERMELYN.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 6, 2024, AS MWBE ADVOCACY DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL

                    THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED?  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2091, MS.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    PHEFFER AMATO.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM MAY 7, 2024, AS POLICE MEMORIAL DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. PHEFFER AMATO

                    ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. PHEFFER AMATO:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                    I RISE TODAY TO HONOR THE LIVES OF THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO MADE THE

                    ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR OUR STATE AND COMMUNITY.  MAY 7TH IS POLICE

                    MEMORIAL DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, WHICH ALLOWS US TO

                    COMMEMORATE AND REFLECT ON THE SELFLESS CONTRIBUTIONS MADE EACH DAY

                    BY POLICE OFFICERS.  IN 2023 WE LOST 15 POLICE OFFICERS IN NEW YORK.

                    TO THE FAMILIES OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS, THE ONLY WORDS I COULD EXPRESS

                    IS HOW PROUD YOU MUST BE THAT YOU HAD A HUSBAND, WIFE, BROTHER, SISTER,

                    CHILD, SOMEONE WHO HAD THE CHARACTER TO STAND UP AND SAY, I WANT TO

                    PROTECT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY.  THERE IS NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE

                    ACTUALLY WILLING TO DO THAT.  TO THE FAMILIES OF OUR FALLEN OFFICERS, YOUR

                    LOVED ONES -- YOUR LOVED ONE WAS THE EMBODIMENT OF GOOD AND WHAT IT

                    TRULY MEANS TO BE A HERO.  LET ME BE CLEAR:  THE POLICE DO GOOD WORK.

                    AND TO THE OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES I SAY THANK YOU.  WHILE WE

                    CANNOT BRING THOSE HEROIC POLICE OFFICERS BACK, I HOPE THIS RESOLUTION

                    BRINGS SOME FORM OF COMFORT TO THE FAMILIES AS WE IN THIS CHAMBER ARE

                    SAYING WITH ONE LOUD UNIFIED VOICE, THANK YOU TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

                    THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, AND

                    THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE TO ENSURE ALL OF US ARE ABLE TO THRIVE IN A

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    SAFE, FREE AND JUST SOCIETY.

                                 ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE POLICE OFFICERS IN OUR

                    GREAT STATE.  TO THOSE WHO WE HAVE LOST, MAY THEIR MEMORIES ALWAYS

                    BE A BLESSING.  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. REILLY.

                                 MR. REILLY:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION,

                    SIR.

                                 MR. REILLY:  THANK YOU TO THE MEMBER FOR

                    SPONSORING THIS.  YOU KNOW, THERE'S 1,840 NAMES THAT ARE ETCHED ON

                    THAT POLICE MEMORIAL WALL IN OUR CAPITAL.  APPROXIMATELY -- I'M SORRY,

                    1,108 OF THOSE NAMES ETCHED IN THAT WALL WERE MEMBERS OF THE NEW

                    YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.  I WISH WE WOULD NEVER HAVE TO ADD

                    ANOTHER NAME TO THAT WALL, BUT THE SAD REALITY IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO

                    THAT EACH AND EVERY YEAR.  AND OVER THE PAST 22 YEARS, WE KEEP ADDING

                    NAMES WHO PERISHED DUE TO THE ATTACKS ON 9/11.  MANY OF THOSE NAMES

                    THAT ARE ETCHED INTO THAT WALL DIED SEVERAL YEARS AFTER THE ATTACK, AND

                    WE WILL CONTINUE, SADLY, TO ADD MORE NAMES EACH AND EVERY YEAR.  SO

                    IT'S OUR GRATITUDE TO THOSE FAMILIES, TO THOSE COLLEAGUES WHO SACRIFICED,

                    WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

                                 YOU KNOW, I HAD THE HONOR OF WEARING THE NEW YORK

                    CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT UNIFORM.  IT'S ONE OF THE PROUDEST THINGS I'VE

                    EVER DONE.  SO MANY OF THOSE NAMES, I KNEW THEM.  AND I WANT THEM

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    KNOW THAT THEY WILL REMEMBER THEM FOREVER.  FIDELIS AD MORTEM;

                    FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 ON PAGE 5, CALENDAR NO. 422, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03980-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 422, JACKSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    REQUIRING INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR LACTATION CONSULTANT SERVICES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, SIR.  I WILL BE

                    SUPPORTING THIS BILL BECAUSE I THINK THE COST IS VERY MODEST AND THE

                    BENEFITS CAN BE SIGNIFICANT.  I WOULD WANT TO POINT OUT TO MY

                    COLLEAGUES, HOWEVER, THAT EVERY YEAR WE ADD SEVERAL ADDITIONAL

                    MANDATES ON EVERY INSURANCE POLICY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.  AND AS

                    A RESULT, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK FOR HARDWORKING

                    MEN AND WOMEN OR EMPLOYERS TO BUY AN AFFORDABLE BASIC POLICY.

                    EVERY SINGLE POLICY OFFERED FOR SALE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK THROUGH

                    -- THROUGH OUR NORMAL SYSTEM REQUIRES YOU TO BUY ABORTION COVERAGE

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY NO LONGER BE OF CHILDBEARING AGE AND MAY NOT

                    EVEN SUPPORT ABORTION.  IT REQUIRES YOU TO PAY FOR A SERIES OF COVERAGES

                    THAT YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN BUYING WHATSOEVER.  AND THE

                    PROBLEM IS THE COST OF INSURANCE DRIVES -- IT KEEPS DRIVING UP.  WE HAVE

                    ONE OF THE HIGHEST INSURANCE COSTS IN THE NATION.  IT MAKES IT LESS AND

                    LESS AFFORDABLE FOR OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD

                    INSURANCE THAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS.  SO REMEMBER, EVERY TIME WE VOTE

                    FOR A NEW MANDATE, WE'RE VOTING TO INCREASE THE COST OF INSURANCE TO ALL

                    OF OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND ALL THE EMPLOYERS IN THE STATE OF NEW

                    YORK, AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO DO THAT COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND

                    MAYBE SAY YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO BUY THE INSURANCE COVERAGE THAT YOU

                    NEED FOR YOUR FAMILY, MEETING YOUR NEEDS, AND NOT BE FORCED TO PAY FOR

                    A CADILLAC SYSTEM THAT MANY OF OUR HARDWORKING FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS

                    CANNOT AFFORD.

                                 THIS ONE IS VERY CHEAP, I BELIEVE, AND SO I'VE DONE THE

                    COST-BENEFIT ANALYSIS AT LEAST IN MY OWN MIND.  I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT WE

                    NEED TO BE VERY MINDFUL THAT WE INCREMENTALLY ARE DRIVING THE COSTS OF

                    INSURANCE TO A POINT WHERE IT'S UNVOIDABLE -- UNAFFORDABLE FOR MANY OF

                    OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MS. JACKSON.

                                 MS. JACKSON:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  ON THIS

                    BILL.  THIS BILL IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING

                    PREGNANT WITH MY SON AND BEING IN THE HOSPITAL AND LEARNING HOW TO

                    BREASTFEED FOR THE FIRST TIME.  AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER,

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    BUT LAST YEAR, OR MAYBE IT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE, MR. SPEAKER, WE RAN OUT

                    OF FORMULA.  WE WERE RUNNING, HUNTING, ASKING PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT

                    CITIES AND STATES TO SEND US FORMULA IF THEY FOUND IT.  AND I THOUGHT THAT

                    IT WAS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THIS BILL, THAT PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO FEED

                    THEIR CHILDREN.  AND WE ALL KNOW THAT BREAST MILK IS THE BEST MILK,

                    RIGHT?  SO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MOMS THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE TO GET

                    THAT NOURISHMENT FOR THEIR CHILDREN.  SO I THOUGHT THIS BILL WAS

                    EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.  IT'S PERSONAL TO ME AND TO EVERY PARENT.  WE

                    WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE RAISED HEALTHY, AND WE WANT TO

                    MAKE SURE THAT MOMS KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILD AND FEED

                    THEIR CHILD IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF LIFE.  LACTATION CONSULTANTS ARE

                    EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THAT, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME

                    TO SPEAK ON THIS BILL.

                                 I VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04853, CALENDAR NO.

                    423, RAMOS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PARKS, RECREATION AND HISTORIC

                    PRESERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO PROHIBITING THE MANDATED USE OF CREDIT

                    CARDS AS A MEANS OF PAYMENT TO USE CERTAIN FACILITIES AT A STATE PARK,

                    RECREATIONAL FACILITY OR HISTORIC SITE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04921-C, CALENDAR

                    NO. 424, PAULIN, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE FAMILY COURT ACT, THE

                    DOMESTIC RELATIONS LAW AND THE GENERAL BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    SURROGACY PROGRAMS AND AGREEMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06026, CALENDAR NO.

                    425, CUNNINGHAM, BEEPHAN, DICKENS, ZEBROWSKI, TAYLOR, GUNTHER,

                    BURDICK, CONRAD, CLARK, SILLITTI, SAYEGH, ANDERSON, VANEL, WALLACE,

                    FALL, ARDILA, MCMAHON, SANTABARBARA, EACHUS, SHIMSKY, TAPIA,

                    HEVESI, SIMON, AUBRY, BUTTENSCHON, ALVAREZ, DE LOS SANTOS, GIBBS,

                    LUCAS, JACOBSON, MEEKS, BARRETT, RAGA, NOVAKHOV, BENDETT, DURSO,

                    GANDOLFO, MCDONOUGH, TAGUE, SLATER, MORINELLO, DIPIETRO, SIMPSON,

                    E. BROWN, MIKULIN, GRAY, MCGOWAN, MAHER, FLOOR, MILLER, HAWLEY,

                    ANGELINO, BLUMENCRANZ, BRABENEC, DESTEFANO, CHANG, SIMONE,

                    WEPRIN, KELLES, DINOWITZ, LEVENBERG.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE FAMILY

                    COURT ACT AND THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURE LAW, IN RELATION TO ORDERS OF

                    PROTECTION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A06992-A, CALENDAR

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    NO. 426, DICKENS, TAYLOR, REYES, AUBRY, SILLITTI, MCDONOUGH,

                    SMULLEN, SIMON, BURDICK, BUTTENSCHON, CUNNINGHAM.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE VETERANS' SERVICES LAW, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING CERTAIN

                    SUPPORT FOR VETERANS TO HELP ALTER THEIR DISCHARGED STATUS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. GIBBS.

                                 MR. GIBBS:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I RISE ON

                    BEHALF OF MEMBER INEZ DICKENS.  SHE SAYS SHE CALLED IN JUST TO SAY

                    THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.  THE VETERAN BILL IS VERY IMPORTANT TO

                    HER.  VETERAN SERVICES IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HER AND HER FAMILY AS WELL

                    AS HER DISTRICT.  SHE SAYS TO EACH AND EVERY MEMBER SHE LOVES EACH AND

                    EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS, AND THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF INEZ DICKENS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07194, CALENDAR NO.

                    427, DILAN, DICKENS, TAYLOR, WALKER, DAVILA, ARDILA, HYNDMAN,

                    LUCAS, SEPTIMO, REYES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO CERTIFICATES OF RELIEF FROM DISABILITIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07241-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 428, LAVINE, NORRIS, PIROZZOLO, JENSEN, WALLACE, BRABENEC,

                    GUNTHER, BRONSON, TAPIA, LUNSFORD, MCMAHON, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE EXECUTIVE LAW, IN RELATION TO LIMITING RECORDKEEPING AND

                    REPORTING DUTIES OF PUBLIC NOTARIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. NORRIS TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. NORRIS:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I WOULD

                    JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER MY SUPPORT OF THIS BILL, AND

                    ALSO SAY A LOT OF TIMES YOU HEAR NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PARTISANSHIP IN

                    WASHINGTON AND HERE IN ALBANY.  BUT THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF

                    WORKING TOGETHER ACROSS BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.  AND I WANT TO THANK

                    THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, CHUCK LAVINE, WHO WORKED

                    WITH ME ON THIS BILL.  AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT HAS THE EXEMPTION FOR THE

                    NOTARY PUBLICS SO THEY NO LONGER NEED TO KEEP A LOG EXCEPT FOR WHEN

                    THEY DO REMOTE NOTARIZATIONS.  AND THIS, I BELIEVE, IS A VERY GOOD BILL

                    PRIMARILY FOR OUR DEMOCRACY, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING OUT AND

                    GATHERING PETITIONS, BUT ALSO IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHERE WE HAVE NOTARY

                    PUBLICS ACTING IN LAW FIRMS AND OUR BANKS AND INSURANCE AGENCIES.

                    AND THIS HAS BEEN A BURDENSOME REGULATION WHEN, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY

                    TAKE AN OATH -- OATH OF OFFICE TO UPHOLD THAT BEING A NOTARY PUBLIC.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                                 SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD BILL.  IT WILL REDUCE THE

                    BURDENSOME REGULATIONS ON OUR NOTARY PUBLICS, PROMOTE DEMOCRACY,

                    AND I ALSO SAY AGAIN, MY THANKS TO THE CHAIR OF THE JUDICIARY

                    COMMITTEE, CHUCK LAVINE, FOR HIS BIPARTISAN WORK ON THIS VERY GOOD

                    BILL.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. NORRIS IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 MR. LAVINE TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  SO, I -- I USUALLY GET TO STAND AND

                    ARGUE WITH SOMETIMES PEOPLE ON MY OWN SIDE OF THE AISLE, AND VERY

                    OFTEN WITH PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE.  BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY

                    IMPORTANT FOR ANYONE WHO IS WATCHING OR PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS TO

                    REALIZE THAT THERE IS A STRONG SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY AMONGST US IN THIS

                    CHAMBER, NO MATTER WHERE WE SIT.  AND I WANT TO THANK MICHAEL

                    NORRIS FOR ACTUALLY THINKING UP THIS BILL BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK UP THIS

                    BILL.  AND I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF A LAVINE/NORRIS BILL, OR

                    MAYBE THIS IS A NORRIS/LAVINE BILL.  THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. LAVINE IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MR. GOODELL FOR THE PURPOSES OF A INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.  WE ARE

                    VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE VISITING WITH US SOME SPECIAL GUESTS.  WITH US

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    ARE THE WIFE, SON -- SONS AND MOTHER-IN-LAW OF OUR COLLEAGUE JARETT

                    GANDOLFO; HIS WIFE IS NATALIA, HIS SONS ARE LENNY AND BENJAMIN -- BOTH

                    BETTER DRESSED THAN I AM -- HIS MOTHER-IN-LAW DEBBIE.  AND IF YOU

                    WOULD PLEASE EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF OUR FLOOR.  BOTH SONS ARE READY

                    TO SPEAK ON THE NEXT BILL, NO DOUBT.  BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY HONORED

                    GUESTS HERE.  IF YOU'LL EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR TO THESE

                    DISTINGUISHED GUESTS.

                                 THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  CERTAINLY.  ON BEHALF

                    OF MR. GOODELL, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME LENNY

                    AND BENJAMIN HERE TO THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY.  IT'S APPEARED TO

                    US THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR YOUNGSTERS JOINING US TODAY, AT LEAST SOME OF

                    OUR YOUNGSTERS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR MOM AND STEPMOTHER

                    [SIC].  WE'RE PLEASED THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US TODAY, YOU ARE FAMILY,

                    YOU ARE ALWAYS GIVEN THE EXTENSION -- THE PLEASURES OF THE FLOOR.  AND

                    LENNY AND BENJAMIN, YOU WILL HAVE THEM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

                    THANK YOU AND WELCOME.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07790-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 429, SOLAGES, BICHOTTE HERMELYN, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    INSURANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO EXPANDING COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR

                    HUMAN DONOR MILK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08081-A, CALENDAR

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    NO. 430, BORES, LEE, BURDICK, SILLITTI, WEPRIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    CIVIL PRACTICE LAW AND RULES, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING PROOF OF SERVICE

                    TO INCLUDE THE SERVER'S PERCEPTION OF VARIOUS CHARACTERISTICS OF THE

                    RECIPIENT IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PERSON TO WHOM PERSONAL SERVICE OF

                    A SUMMONS WAS DELIVERED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08324, CALENDAR NO.

                    431, RAJKUMAR.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE COURT OF CLAIMS ACT, IN RELATION

                    TO ALLOWING FOR DISMISSAL OF A CLAIM BASED ON CLAIMANT'S FAILURE TO

                    COMPLY WITH PLEADING REQUIREMENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08452-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 432, O'DONNELL, COLTON, BURDICK, GUNTHER, THIELE.  AN ACT TO

                    DIRECT THE DEPARTMENTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION AND HEALTH TO

                    ESTABLISH ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS FOR AMBIENT LEAD AND LEAD

                    CONTAMINATION IN SOILS; AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF SUCH PROVISIONS

                    UPON EXPIRATION THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08978-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 433, WOERNER, GUNTHER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE ARTS -- ARTS AND

                    CULTURAL AFFAIRS LAW, IN RELATION TO REQUIRING THE COUNCIL ON THE ARTS

                    TO HAVE MEMBERS FROM EACH OF THE TEN REGIONS OF THE STATE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09169, CALENDAR NO.

                    434, BURDICK, RAGA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO ESTABLISHING AN ANNUAL HEAT MITIGATION PLAN; AND DIRECTING THE

                    EXTREME HEAT ACTION PLAN WORK GROUP OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

                    ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION TO ANALYZE THE IMPACT OF EXTREME HEAT ON

                    INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AND PEOPLE WORKING IN PRISONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09186-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 435, DILAN, DICKENS, TAYLOR, WALKER, DAVILA, ARDILA, HYNDMAN,

                    LUCAS, MCDONOUGH, REYES.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE CORRECTION LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO PROVIDING FOR THE RETURN OF ANY IDENTIFICATION MATERIALS TO AN

                    INDIVIDUAL UPON RELEASE FROM CUSTODY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. 93 --

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ONE MINUTE, ONE

                    MINUTE.  HELLO?  LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE CAN'T HEAR.  THANK YOU.

                                 PROCEED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09329, CALENDAR NO.

                    436, JACKSON, BURDICK.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO REQUIRING LANDLORDS AND LESSORS PROVIDE NOTICE TO TENANTS

                    ABOUT BED BUG INFESTATION.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09336, CALENDAR NO.

                    437, SEAWRIGHT.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE MENTAL HYGIENE LAW AND THE

                    STATE FINANCE LAW, IN RELATION TO EXPANDING THE LEGISLATIVE REPORTING

                    REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND THE OFFICE FOR PEOPLE

                    WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE BILL IS LAID ASIDE.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09386, CALENDAR NO.

                    438, PHEFFER AMATO, COLTON, DILAN, SANTABARBARA, DAVILA.  AN ACT TO

                    AMEND THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW, IN RELATION TO CREDITING OF PROVISIONAL

                    TIME FOR PROMOTIONAL EXAMINATIONS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    PHEFFER AMATO, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09827, CALENDAR NO.

                    439, BARRETT, SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC SERVICE LAW,

                    IN RELATION TO INFORMATION REQUIRED TO BE PUBLISHED PRIOR TO A MAJOR

                    RATE CHANGE BY A PUBLIC GAS OR ELECTRIC UTILITY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09850, CALENDAR NO.

                    440, JEAN-PIERRE, BURDICK, CUNNINGHAM.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    VETERANS' SERVICES LAW AND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    VETERANS RECEIVING INFORMATION ON BENEFITS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 WE WILL GO TO PAGE 18, CALENDAR NO. 93, THE CLERK

                    WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03499-B, CALENDAR

                    NO. 93, CARROLL, STIRPE, REYES, TAYLOR, DICKENS, DESTEFANO, RAMOS,

                    MIKULIN, SAYEGH, SMITH, WILLIAMS, COOK, SEAWRIGHT, REILLY, MILLER,

                    ROZIC, EPSTEIN, CRUZ, STECK, RA, BENEDETTO, JACOBSON, HYNDMAN,

                    THIELE, LAVINE, STERN, JONES, BUTTENSCHON, BRAUNSTEIN, FALL, PAULIN, L.

                    ROSENTHAL, WALLACE, DILAN, AUBRY, JEAN-PIERRE, DARLING, WALKER,

                    ANDERSON, JACKSON, RAGA, BURGOS.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL

                    BUSINESS LAW AND THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW, IN RELATION TO

                    AUTOMOBILE BROKER BUSINESSES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. CARROLL TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. CARROLL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  THIS BILL

                    WILL BRING MUCH-NEEDED TRANSPARENCY AND CONSUMER PROTECTIONS TO THE

                    AUTO BROKER BUSINESS, AND IN TURN WILL MAKE SURE THAT NEW YORK

                    CONSUMERS, WHEN THEY'RE USING A BROKER TO PURCHASE A CAR, THAT THEY'RE

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                    GETTING THE BEST PRICE, THAT THEIR FINANCIAL DATA IS PROTECTED, AND THAT

                    THEY CAN BE ASSURED THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE BEST VALUE FOR THIS MAJOR

                    PURCHASE.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND FOR THAT I RESCIND MY

                    VOTE -- I RESCIND MY ABSTENTION AND VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. CARROLL IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 9, RULES REPORT NO. 18.  WE ARE ON DEBATE.  THE

                    CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A04938-D, RULES

                    REPORT NO. 18, DINOWITZ, RAGA, HEVESI, COLTON, BORES, SIMON, GLICK,

                    SEAWRIGHT, OTIS, FAHY, LEE, WEPRIN, PRETLOW, FALL, L. ROSENTHAL,

                    LUPARDO, PHEFFER AMATO, ARDILA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL

                    BUSINESS LAW, IN RELATION TO THE MANUFACTURE AND SALE OF LITHIUM-ION

                    BATTERIES FOR USE IN LIGHT ELECTRIC-POWERED VEHICLES, PERSONAL ELECTRIC

                    MOBILITY DEVICES AND LIMITED-USE MOTORCYCLES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  AN EXPLANATION IS

                    REQUESTED.

                                 ONE MINUTE, MR. DINOWITZ.  WE WILL NEED A LITTLE

                    MORE QUIET WHILE WE'RE DEBATING, PLEASE.  MEMBERS TAKE THEIR SEATS,

                    SETTLE IN.

                                 PROCEED, MR. DINOWITZ.

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                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  SO THIS BILL PROHIBITS THE

                    MANUFACTURE, DISTRIBUTION, ASSEMBLY, RECONDITIONING, SALE OR OFFERING

                    FOR SALE OF A LITHIUM-ION BATTERY OR A SECOND-USE LITHIUM-ION BATTERY

                    INTENDED FOR USE IN AN E-BIKE, MOPED OR OTHER MICRO-MOBILITY DEVICE

                    UNLESS THE BATTERY -- UNLESS -- IT PROHIBITS -- UNLESS THE BATTERY IS

                    CERTIFIED BY AN ACCREDITED TESTING LABORATORY.  NOW, WE PASSED THE

                    C-VERSION OF THE BILL RECENTLY, AND THIS VERSION JUST MAKES A FEW VERY

                    MINOR TWEAKS TO THE BILL IN ORDER TO SECURE -- IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE IT

                    BECOMES LAW.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. GOODELL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  WOULD

                    THE SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. DINOWITZ, DO YOU

                    YIELD?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  YES, I DO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. DINOWITZ YIELDS.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, MR. DINOWITZ.  AM I

                    CORRECT THAT NEW YORK CITY ALREADY HAS A LOCAL LAW DEALING WITH THIS?

                    OR A CITYWIDE LAW?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  RIGHT.  WELL, NEW YORK STATE

                    DOESN'T HAVE THIS LAW.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  BUT NEW YORK CITY HAS SOMETHING

                    SIMILAR, DOESN'T IT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I'M NOT SURE THAT WHAT I WOULD

                    CHARACTERIZE WHAT NEW YORK STATE HAS AS SIMILAR.  THIS BILL ADDRESSES A

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                    SERIOUS PROBLEM, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME,

                    MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF DEFECTIVE LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES,

                    PARTICULARLY PEOPLE IN NEW YORK CITY.  IN FACT, THERE WAS JUST A FIRE

                    WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS IN THE BRONX AGAIN.  I DON'T KNOW THAT

                    ANYBODY DIED FROM THE FIRE, THANKFULLY.  BUT TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE

                    DIED AND HOPEFULLY THIS BILL CAN HELP ADDRESS THAT SITUATION.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  WELL, IN PARTICULAR, DOESN'T NEW

                    YORK CITY'S LOCAL LAW 39 DEAL WITH THIS SUBJECT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  NEW YORK STATE?

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NEW YORK CITY.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  NEW YORK CITY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  LOCAL LAW NO. 39.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  NEW YORK CITY -- I THOUGHT YOU

                    SAID NEW YORK STATE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NO, NEW YORK CITY, SORRY.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  OKAY.  WELL, YOU KNOW, NEW

                    YORK CITY IS ONE VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE STATE, BUT NOT THE WHOLE

                    STATE.  NEW YORK CITY DOES HAVE A LAW, BUT THIS COVERS THE WHOLE

                    STATE, AND IF I MUST SAY SO MYSELF I THINK IT'S EVEN BETTER.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND YOU'VE MENTIONED SOME

                    EXAMPLES OF THESE BATTERY FIRES IN NEW YORK CITY WHICH ALREADY HAS

                    SIMILAR PROVISIONS.  ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY BATTERY FIRES OUTSIDE OF NEW

                    YORK CITY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THIS LOCAL LAW?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, I DON'T HAVE DATA OR ANYTHING

                    LIKE THAT, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THESE FIRES ONLY HAPPEN IN NEW YORK

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                    CITY.  I MENTIONED NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

                    BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT OUTSIDE NEW YORK CITY, PEOPLE ARE NOT

                    IMMUNE TO THOSE FIRES THAT TAKE PLACE IN NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE THE

                    REASON FOR THE FIRE IS NOT THE FACT THAT IT'S IN NEW YORK CITY, BUT THE

                    FACT THAT THEY ARE DEFECTIVE LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, LOOKING AT NEW YORK CITY AS

                    THE EXAMPLE SINCE THEY PASSED A SIMILAR LAW, LOCAL LAW 39, HOW MANY

                    CITATIONS HAS NEW YORK CITY ISSUED UNDER ITS LOCAL LAW, DO YOU KNOW?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  NO, I DON'T.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  WELL, I NOTE THAT THE ENFORCEMENT

                    PROVISION OF THIS BILL RELIES SOLELY ON DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, COUNTY

                    ATTORNEYS AND CORPORATION COUNSEL.  LET ME START WITH DISTRICT

                    ATTORNEYS.  IS THERE ANY CRIMINAL SANCTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, LET ME CHECK.  BUT KEEP IN

                    MIND, WE ALREADY PASSED THE C-VERSION OF THE BILL AND THE CHANGES THAT

                    WERE MADE FROM C TO D DON'T INCLUDE THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING

                    ABOUT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND I APPRECIATE IT, AND I VOTED

                    AGAINST THE C-VERSION AS WELL.  BUT IN MY QUESTION, IS THERE ANY

                    CRIMINAL SANCTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE CRIMINAL

                    SANCTIONS -- WELL, LET'S SEE HERE, LET'S JUST CHECK.  THE DA, COUNTY

                    ATTORNEY AND CORP COUNSEL SHALL HAVE CONCURRENT AUTHORITY TO SEEK

                    RELIEF IN THIS SECTION, AND ALL CIVIL PENALTIES OBTAINED IN ANY SUCH ACTION

                    SHALL BE RETAINED BY SUCH MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO THIS IS NOT ENFORCED BY TRAFFIC

                    OFFICERS, POLICE OFFICERS OR ANYONE THAT CARRIES A BADGE, UNLESS MAYBE A

                    DISTRICT ATTORNEY CARRIES A BADGE; IS THAT CORRECT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, AGAIN, WHILE THAT'S NOT

                    RELEVANT TO THE AREAS THAT DIFFER BETWEEN THE TWO SECTIONS, I WOULD SAY

                    YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  I SEE.

                                 THIS ALSO APPLIES TO ALL EXISTING MICRO-MOBILITY

                    VEHICLES, IF YOU WILL, THAT HAVE BATTERIES THAT AREN'T UL OR EN CERTIFIED,

                    CORRECT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  YEAH.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO THAT MEANS, THEN, IF YOU ALREADY

                    OWN ONE OF THESE BICYCLES YOU CAN'T SELL IT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, I THINK IN THE PREVIOUS

                    DEBATE MS. WALSH BROUGHT UP THE VERY SAME ISSUE, AS I RECALL, AND THE

                    ANSWERS WOULD BE THE SAME.  SO I WOULD REFER YOU BACK TO THAT DEBATE,

                    YES.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO THE ANSWER IS YES, YOU CAN'T SELL

                    IT OR NO, YOU CAN'T SELL IT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  IF IT'S DEFECTIVE, NO.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND LIKEWISE --

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  N-O, NO.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  -- I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF

                    OPPORTUNITIES SOMETIMES IN CITIES WHERE YOU CAN RENT A BICYCLE, I THINK

                    YOU CAN ALSO RENT AN E-BIKE.  THIS WOULD BAR ANYONE FROM RENTING AN

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                    E-BIKE THAT HAS A BATTERY THAT'S NOT UL OR EN CERTIFIED, CORRECT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  YES.  YOU DO NOT WANT PEOPLE

                    USING ANY -- ANYTHING THAT HAS THESE DEFECTIVE BATTERIES WHICH CAN

                    CAUSE PEOPLE TO DIE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW, A LOT OF THE FIRES WERE

                    CAUSED, ACCORDING TO SOME EXPERTS, BECAUSE OF IMPROPER CHARGING.

                    DOES THIS ADDRESS IN ANY WAY THE CHARGERS OR A REQUIREMENT THAT THE

                    CHARGER BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER'S

                    RECOMMENDATIONS OR THAT IT BE CHARGED IN A CERTAIN WAY?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, FIRST, THE -- THE ANSWER I

                    BELIEVE IS NO.  BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE REASON FOR THESE FIRES IS

                    BECAUSE OF IMPROPER CHARGES OR EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE OF THAT.  THERE

                    MAY BE VARIOUS REASONS WHY WE'VE HAD THESE FIRES, BUT THE -- THE FACT IS

                    WE HAVE HAD THE FIRES AND PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM IT.  AND I THINK AS THE

                    LEGISLATURE WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE ACTION THAT WOULD HELP SAVE LIVES.

                    I'M SURE YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  DOES THIS PROVIDE -- DOES THIS

                    PROVIDE ANY COMPENSATION FOR ANY EXISTING CONSUMERS THAT MAY HAVE,

                    FOR EXAMPLE, JUST RE-BOUGHT OR REMANUFACTURED OR RECERTIFIED A BATTERY

                    THAT CAN NO LONGER USE THAT E-BIKE OR MICRO-MOBILITY VEHICLE?  DOES IT

                    PROVIDE ANY COMPENSATION TO OFFSET THE FACT THAT THEIR PURCHASE IS NOW

                    WORTHLESS?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  WELL, NO, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO

                    IMPOSE THAT KIND OF BURDEN ON THE -- ON THE TAXPAYERS WHO HAVE TO PAY

                    FOR THAT COMPENSATION, I'M SURE.

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                                 MR. GOODELL:  WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SAME

                    ARGUMENT THAT APPLIES IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROHIBITION AGAINST TAKING

                    GOVERNMENT -- IT BASICALLY SAYS IF YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE VALUE OF MY

                    PERSONAL PROPERTY, YOU HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATION TO PAY.  THAT'S

                    THE TAKING CLAUSE OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.  BUT THIS DOESN'T PROVIDE

                    ANY FUNDING FOR THAT, CORRECT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  OH, YOU MEAN FOR THE DEFECTIVE

                    BATTERIES?

                                 MR. GOODELL:  RIGHT.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  NO, IT DOESN'T.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DEFECTIVE, IT'S

                    NOT CERTIFIED -- NOT UL OR EN CERTIFIED, CORRECT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  YOU MEAN FOR THE POTENTIALLY

                    DEFECTIVE AND POSSIBLY DEATH-CAUSING BATTERIES?  THE ANSWER IS YOU'RE

                    CORRECT, THAT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE COMPENSATION.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  NOW OF ALL THE UNCERTIFIED

                    BATTERIES, THAT IS BATTERIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED, WHAT PERCENT OF

                    THEM HAVE IGNITED?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE

                    A FAIRLY LOW PERCENTAGE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE BATTERIES THAT

                    EXPLODE ON THEM, BUT SOME DO, AND MOST PEOPLE AREN'T DYING, BUT SOME

                    HAVE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SO THE LAST DATA I SAW IS THAT IN

                    NEW YORK CITY, WHICH HAS A COMPARABLE LAW IN PLACE, THERE WERE LIKE

                    25 FIRES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS; IS THAT RIGHT?

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                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE, BUT IT'S

                    -- BUT I'M SURE THAT'S NOT OUT OF THE BALLPARK.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  AND THAT'S OUT OF THE HUNDREDS OF

                    THOUSANDS OF BICYCLES -- OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HUNDREDS OF -- WELL,

                    YEAH, IT WAS -- IT WAS ESTIMATED AT 60,000 OF THESE BICYCLES OUT THERE,

                    RIGHT?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER, BUT I'M

                    PRETTY SURE 60,000 IS FEWER THAN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  YEAH, WELL, 60,000 JUST FOR

                    DELIVERY.  THAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT DID NOT INCLUDE PERSONAL USE.

                                 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION,

                    SIR.

                                 ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  ONE -- ONE THING YOU DIDN'T DO IS

                    ASK WHAT CHANGE BETWEEN C AND D, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S OKAY.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  WELL, I -- I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO

                    FEEL SLIGHTED IN ANY WAY, BUT SO WHAT IS THE CHANGE BETWEEN THE C-

                    VERSION AND THE D-VERSION?

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.  AND

                    I DON'T FEEL SLIGHTED.  SO THESE ARE THE MINOR DIFFERENCES:  SO, THE

                    DEFINITION OF LITHIUM-ION BATTERY WAS CHANGED BASED ON EXPERTS OF

                    GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY.  IN OTHER WORDS, WE SLIGHTLY ALTERED THE -- THE

                    DEFINITION IN THERE.  NUMBER 2, THE DEFINITION OF MOPED WAS REMOVED,

                    BUT MOPEDS ARE STILL COVERED IN THE BILL BUT THE REFERENCE IS TO THEIR

                    TERM OF -- TO THE TERM OF LIMITED-USE MOTORCYCLES, WHICH IS DEFINED IN

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                                              MAY 6, 2024

                    THE VEHICLE AND TRAFFIC LAW.  AND THIRD AND LAST, WE ADDED TO THE

                    PRODUCTS AND DEVICES COVERED -- COVERED BEING THOSE THAT ARE SOLD TO

                    ADD TO THOSE THAT ARE LEASED OR RENTED.  SO IT'S SOLD, LEASED OR RENTED.

                    AND THAT'S IT.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THANK YOU, AND I'M GLAD YOU

                    CLARIFIED THOSE DIFFERENCES.

                                 MR. DINOWITZ:  IT'S MY PLEASURE.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  SIR, ON -- ON THE BILL.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER LAVINE:  MR. GOODELL ON THE

                    BILL.

                                 MR. GOODELL:  THIS IS AN INTERESTING BILL BECAUSE

                    IT IN 90 DAYS WOULD BASICALLY ELIMINATE THE VALUE OF ANYBODY WHO HAS

                    AN E-BIKE OR A MICRO-MOBILITY DEVICE WHICH IS THE -- IS SIMILAR TO A

                    MOPED, BUT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AS MY COLLEAGUE NOTED.  AND IN 90 DAYS

                    YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LEASE THAT, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SELL IT, AND

                    THE VALUE WOULD DROP TO NEAR ZERO.

                                 NOW, WE KNOW THERE'S BEEN PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF

                    THESE BATTERIES.  THOSE HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.  WE'VE HAD ROUGHLY, I

                    THINK, 25 FIRES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN NEW YORK CITY, WHICH

                    ALREADY HAS THIS LAW.  IT ACTUALLY ALREADY HAS A STRICTER LAW THAN THIS.  SO

                    THIS IS AN INTERESTING PROPOSITION FOR US TO VOTE ON BECAUSE NEW YORK

                    CITY, LEADING THE WAY, HAS A STRICTER LAW, IT HASN'T BEEN EFFECTIVE AT ALL.

                    SO WE'RE ASKED TO RENDER ALL THESE PRIVATE E-BIKES AND MOBILITY DEVICES

                    THAT USE A BATTERY WHICH HASN'T GIVEN THEM ANY PROBLEM AND THERE'S

                    LIKELY OVER 100,000 OF THEM IN NEW YORK STATE, WE'RE ASKED TO RENDER

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                    THEM ALL WORTHLESS.  SO YOU CAN'T SELL THEM OR RENT THEM OR USE THEM.

                    BUT THE IRONY ON THIS WHOLE BILL IS THAT IT'S ONLY ENFORCED BY DISTRICT

                    ATTORNEYS, COUNTY ATTORNEYS OR CORPORATION COUNSELS.  WELL, HAVING

                    SERVED AS A COUNTY ATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU, WE DON'T HAVE AN

                    INVESTIGATORY STAFF THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE ROAD CHECKING E-BIKES.  NO

                    ONE DOES.  CITY CORPORATION COUNSEL DOESN'T HAVE AN INVESTIGATORY STAFF.

                    THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE -- MOST OF THEM DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY BADGE OR

                    ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO ARREST

                    OR MAKE ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.  AND THEN WE ASK DISTRICT ATTORNEYS

                    WHO ARE BUSY PROSECUTING LAWS AND TRYING TO GET CRIMINALS OFF THE

                    STREETS TO ENFORCE THIS?  WHAT, IS THE DA GONNA DO A NEIGHBORHOOD

                    SURVEY?  SO WE HAVE A BILL THAT'S COMPLETELY -- VIRTUALLY COMPLETELY

                    UNENFORCEABLE, THAT'S PROVEN AND PRACTICED TO BE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE,

                    THAT RENDERS MANY BICYCLES WORTHLESS AND ELIMINATES THE ABILITY OF

                    ANYONE TO SELL, LEASE OR RENT.

                                 SO FOR THOSE REASONS I'M NOT SUPPORTING IT.  BUT AS MY

                    COLLEAGUE NOTED EARLIER, A VERY SIMILAR VERSION OF THIS PASSED WITH

                    SUBSTANTIAL BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, AND I SUSPECT TO HIS GREAT PLEASURE IT

                    WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER LAVINE:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 90TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER LAVINE:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

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                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. PALMESANO TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. PALMESANO:  YES, MR. SPEAKER -- SPEAKER, TO

                    EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  I KNOW I DEBATED THE BILL LAST TIME, I DON'T THINK IT'S

                    NECESSARY TO DO IT AGAIN.  I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF POINTS

                    THAT I BROUGHT UP IN THE DEBATE AND REASONS FOR MY OPPOSITION.  I

                    UNDERSTAND WHY THE SPONSOR IS DOING THIS LEGISLATION.  I -- WE'VE SEEN

                    SIMILAR BILLS BECAUSE OF THE EV -- BECAUSE OF THE FIRES IN NEW YORK

                    CITY IN APARTMENTS WITH SCOOTERS AND E-BIKES BECAUSE OF THE

                    LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES.  THIS IS A BILL THAT'S REACTING TO THOSE TRAGEDIES.  I

                    WANT US TO BE PROACTIVE, AND IT'S TOO LATE TO BE PROACTIVE ON THIS SIDE OF

                    THE -- ON THESE ISSUES.  BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ELECTRIC

                    VEHICLES, OUR ELECTRIC SCHOOL BUSES THAT ARE ON THE ROAD AND THEY'RE

                    GONNA CONTINUE TO BE ON THE ROAD.  WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THE

                    PURITY, THE SAFETY OF THOSE BATTERIES?  WE ALREADY KNOW THAT COBALT IS

                    USED TO PRODUCE LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT COBALT IS

                    EXTRACTED IN THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO AND THAT THEY'RE USING

                    CHILD LABOR TO PRODUCE THESE LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES TO POWER ELECTRIC

                    VEHICLES, TO POWER OUR ELECTRIC SCHOOL BUSES.  SO WHY AREN'T WE TALKING

                    ABOUT THAT AND BEING PROACTIVE ON THAT SIDE OF THE EQUATION?  WE ALSO

                    KNOW THAT LITHIUM, AS THAT'S MINED IN AFRICAN COUNTRIES, ARE POISONING

                    WATER, RIVERS AND STREAMS.  IN THOSE COUNTRIES THERE IS BIRTH DEFECTS AND

                    OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON AND FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.  WHY AREN'T

                    WE BEING PROACTIVE ON THAT REGARD?  UNFORTUNATELY, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE

                    MORE AND MORE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE AND THE ADMINISTRATION

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                    WANTS TO PROMOTE THIS ELECTRIC -- FULL ELECTRIFICATION IN THIS SO-CALLED

                    "CLEAN AGENDA."  AND THERE'S NOTHING CLEAN ABOUT IT, YOU SHOULD KNOW

                    THAT.  AND YOU TALK ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO A -- REDUCING GLOBAL

                    EMISSIONS, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS NEW YORK ONLY CONTRIBUTES 0.4

                    PERCENT OF ALL GLOBAL EMISSIONS, 0.4, WHILE CHINA CONTRIBUTES 30

                    PERCENT, HAS 1,000 COAL PLANTS AND BUILDING MORE.  SO WE CAN TALK

                    ABOUT THIS, THIS IS A NICE BILL TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM WITH THE

                    SCOOTERS AND BIKES, BUT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES

                    AND OUR -- AND OUR SCHOOL BUSES THAT ARE GONNA HAPPEN.  THEY NEED TO

                    MAKE SURE THOSE BATTERIES ARE SAFE AND BEING SOURCED WITH PRODUCTS

                    THAT ARE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES INSTEAD OF THE CONGO AND OTHER

                    AFRICAN COUNTRIES.  AND ALSO WE GOT OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO BE

                    AWARE OF; BATTERY STORAGE FIELDS --

                                 (BUZZER SOUNDS)

                                 ACTING SPEAKER LAVINE:  MR. PALMESANO, HOW

                    DO YOU VOTE?

                                 MR. PALMESANO:  I WILL VOTE NO, MR. SPEAKER,

                    THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER LAVINE:  THANK YOU, MR.

                    PALMESANO.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ARE THERE ANY OTHER

                    VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 CALENDAR NO. 232, THE CLERK WILL READ.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A08232-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 232, PAULIN, SAYEGH.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO EXPANDING ELIGIBILITY FOR APPOINTMENT TO COUNTY BOARDS OF

                    HEALTH AND HEALTH SERVICES ADVISORY BOARDS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 30, CALENDAR NO. 312, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A07872-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 312, PAULIN.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO PROVIDING HEALTH CARE PROXY INFORMATION TO PALLIATIVE CARE PATIENTS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 34, CALENDAR NO. 379, THE CLERK WILL READ.

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                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A09407-A, CALENDAR

                    NO. 379, WEPRIN, LEVENBERG.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE INSURANCE LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO SUPPLEMENTAL SPOUSAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 180TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE CLERK WILL RECORD

                    THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, DO YOU

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  WE HAVE BOTH, MRS.

                    PEOPLES-STOKES.  WE'LL START WITH RESOLUTIONS [SIC].

                                 ON BEHALF OF MS. PAULIN, BILL A06034-A, ASSEMBLY

                    BILL RECALLED FROM THE SENATE.  THE CLERK WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE BILL.

                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY -- AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    PUBLIC HEALTH LAW.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MOTION TO RECONSIDER

                    THE VOTE BY WHICH THE BILL PASSED THE HOUSE.  THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE

                    VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

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                                 THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE AND THE AMENDMENTS ARE

                    RECEIVED AND ADOPTED.

                                 RESOLUTION 2093, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 2093, MR.

                    LAVINE.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION COMMEMORATING THE

                    OBSERVANCE OF HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK

                    ON MAY 6, 2024.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. LAVINE ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. LAVINE:  THANKS, MR. SPEAKER.  ACROSS THE

                    WORLD TODAY, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, JEWS AND NON-JEWS, ARE

                    LIGHTING CANDLES IN MEMORY OF THE SIX MILLION JEWISH LIVES LOST IN THE

                    HOLOCAUST.  WE SHOULD ALSO PAUSE TO REMEMBER ON THIS YOM HASHOAH

                    ALL THE ROMA, THE SLOVES, THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, LGBTQ INDIVIDUALS

                    AND OTHERS WHO WERE MURDERED IN THE NAZI GENOCIDE, THE RITUALIZED

                    SLAUGHTER OF THE OTHER.  BUT WE SHOULD ALSO REMEMBER, EVEN IN THE FACE

                    OF THIS TRAGEDY, THE MANY HEROES WHO ROSE DURING THOSE DARKEST OF

                    TIMES, INCLUDING THE ONE-AND-A-HALF MILLION JEWISH TROOPS WHO SERVED

                    IN THE SOVIET ARMY, IN THE AMERICAN ARMY, AND IN THE BRITISH ARMY,

                    AND THAT NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PARTISANS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES

                    FIGHTING THE NAZIS.  IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GHETTO FIGHTERS, AND THERE

                    WERE UPRISINGS IN EVERY ONE OF THE GHETTOS.  FOR THOSE WHO LOST THEIR

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                    LIVES IN THE UPRISINGS IN THE CAMPS.

                                 IN A WORLD THAT TODAY SEEMS TO FACE MORE THAN OUR FAIR

                    SHARE OF DESPAIR, WE MUST NEVER WAIVER IN OUR COMMITMENT TO FIGHT

                    HATRED WHEREVER IT EXISTS.  WE MUST SPEAK UP IN THE FACE OF OPPRESSION.

                    WE MUST SPEAK UP.  WE CANNOT BE INNOCENT BYSTANDERS.  THERE IS NO

                    SUCH THING AS AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER.  WE MUST BE UPSTANDERS.

                    WHEREVER WE SEE HATRED, WE MUST STAND UP AND WE MUST FIGHT.  WE

                    DON'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE; HISTORY TEACHES THAT -- TEACHES US THAT.  SO I

                    ASK THAT EACH OF US TAKE THIS MOMENT TO REFLECT ON ALL OF THOSE WHOSE

                    LIVES WERE ENDED NEEDLESSLY DURING THOSE NAZI YEARS, AND LET'S MAKE

                    SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

                                 NOW, WE HAVE RECENTLY SEEN A PROBLEMATIC SPIKE IN

                    JEW HATRED IN THE UNITED STATES AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD.

                    WE CANNOT STAND IDLY BY WHILE THAT OCCURS, NOR CAN WE STAND IDLY BY

                    WHILE HATRED IS EXPRESSED TOWARDS THE OTHER.  AND THE OTHER INCLUDE NOT

                    ONLY JEWS, BLACKS, LATINOS, MIGRANTS, IMMIGRANTS, LGBTQIA+, TRANS

                    KIDS.  LET US STAND STRONGLY.  THE HISTORY OF THE JEWS IN THE UNITED

                    STATES HAS LARGELY BEEN A GREAT HISTORY.  THERE HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONS IN

                    THE 20'S AND THE 30'S.  ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TURN ON A RADIO AND YOU

                    HEARD VEHEMENT ANTI-JEW HATRED.  WE THOUGHT WE HAD LEFT THOSE DAYS

                    BEHIND.  BUT UNLESS AND UNTIL ALL OF US STAND TOGETHER AND STAND UNITED,

                    WE ARE IN DANGER.  AMERICA IS BASED ON THE PROPOSITION THAT EACH OF US

                    IS INHERENTLY EQUAL.  TODAY, IN ORDER TO DEFEND AMERICA WE MUST STAND

                    UP FOR THE JEWS AND WE MUST STAND UP FOR THE OTHER AS WELL.  THE -- THE

                    FATE OF THE JEWS AND THE FATE OF AMERICA ARE INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED.

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                    AND THERE'S A JEWISH EXPRESSION THAT GOES BACK TO THE END OF THE

                    SECOND WORLD WAR.  IT'S (SPEAKING YIDDISH).  IT'S A YIDDISH EXPRESSION,

                    A HEBREW EXPRESSION.  IT MEANS THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, THE JEWS, SURVIVE.

                                 SO AS WE REFLECT ON THE HOLOCAUST ON YOM HASHOAH,

                    LET US KEEP IN MIND NOT ONLY AM YISRAEL CHAI, BUT AM AMERICA CHAI;

                    THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL MUST LIVE AND THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA MUST LIVE.

                    THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ADDRESS THIS -- THIS ISSUE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 MR. WEPRIN ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MR. WEPRIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  YOU KNOW,

                    EVERY YEAR HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, YOM HASHOAH, WE USE THE

                    EXPRESSION "NEVER AGAIN", THAT THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN, SHOULD

                    NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.  FOR MANY YEARS I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS

                    NOT EVEN A REMOTE POSSIBILITY.  BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE IN THE UNITED

                    STATES AND EVEN IN NEW YORK STATE SINCE OCTOBER 7TH, IS AN INCREASE IN

                    HATE CRIMES AGAINST JEWISH PEOPLE.  IN 2024 ALONE, I THINK NYPD CAME

                    OUT WITH A STATISTIC THAT HATE CRIMES AGAINST JEWS ARE UP 45 PERCENT JUST

                    THIS YEAR ALONE, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE HATE CRIMES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT

                    NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.  SO TO REMEMBER THE HOLOCAUST, YOU

                    KNOW, PEOPLE SAY THAT IF WE DON'T REMEMBER THE HOLOCAUST, IF WE DON'T

                    REMEMBER HISTORY AND WHAT HAPPENED, WE'RE -- WE'RE DUE TO REPEAT

                    HISTORY, AND IN THIS CASE THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.  OCTOBER 7TH

                    WAS THE WORST SINGLE DAY OF MURDER OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWISH

                    SINCE THE HOLOCAUST.  AND THE INCREASE IN HATE CRIMES AFTER THE HAMAS

                    MURDER AND TORTURE AND RAPE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU'D THINK

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                    THAT THAT WOULD PROVOKE SYMPATHY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE, FOR THE STATE

                    OF ISRAEL, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S THE OPPOSITE.  IT'S BROUGHT OUT HATE, AND

                    WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IN THE UNITED STATES IS SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED

                    IN NAZI GERMANY AND RELATED COUNTRIES PRIOR TO THE HOLOCAUST.  SO IT'S

                    VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL SPEAK OUT AGAINST HATE AGAINST ANYBODY OR

                    ANY GROUP.  BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE

                    HOLOCAUST AND TO PREVENT IT FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN.  AND WE NEED

                    TO BE VIGILANT AND NOT JUST SIT BY, BUT SPEAK OUT ABOUT ALL THE

                    ANTI-SEMITISM THAT IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT COLLEGE CAMPUSES, NOT TO

                    MENTION EVERYWHERE WE TURN IN NEW YORK AND THE UNITED STATES.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MS. LEVENBERG.

                                 MS. LEVENBERG:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  AS

                    WE RECOGNIZE THE SHOAH TODAY WITH A DAY OF REMEMBRANCE, I CANNOT

                    HELP BUT THINK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US TO LEARN LESSONS FROM

                    HISTORY, AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED.  I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY

                    IF NOT FOR THE KINDNESS OF RIGHTEOUS CHRISTIANS WHO TOOK IT UPON

                    THEMSELVES TO PUT THEIR OWN LIVES ON THE LINE TO SAVE MY FAMILY.  WE

                    KNOW OF MANY STORIES LIKE THESE, MANY, MANY, MANY STORIES.  FEAR OF

                    THOSE WHO ARE DIFFERENT THAN US OR HAVE DIFFERENT BELIEFS IS CRIPPLING

                    OUR WORLD.  ONLY THROUGH OPENING OUR ARMS, OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS

                    WE WILL BE EVER BE ABLE TO MOVE PAST TERRORISM AND WAR.  AND NOT JUST

                    HERE, NOT JUST IN ISRAEL, BUT THROUGHOUT OUR WORLD.  WE MUST REMEMBER

                    AND WE MUST DO MUCH, MUCH BETTER.

                                 THANK YOU.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MS. GLICK ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MS. GLICK:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER, ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.  THE HOLOCAUST DID NOT START WITH TRAINS HEADING TO

                    AUSCHWITZ.  IT STARTED MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE WITH LAWS THAT

                    RESTRICTED THE ABILITY OF JEWS TO BE TEACHERS, OF JEWS TO OWN BUSINESSES,

                    OF JEWS TO HAVE CERTAIN OTHER PROFESSIONS.  THOSE RESTRICTIONS WERE

                    EMBRACED BY A GOVERNMENT.  THOSE WERE GOVERNMENT ACTIONS, A

                    DETERMINATION BY A GOVERNMENT THAT A WHOLE PEOPLE SHOULD BE

                    EXTERMINATED.  THAT -- THAT IS WHAT GENOCIDE IS.  AND IT WAS SHOCKING

                    TO PEOPLE THAT THEIR NEIGHBORS TURNED ON THEM, PEOPLE THAT THEY HAD

                    BEEN FRIENDS WITH.  PEOPLE WHO THEIR KIDS HAD PLAYED WITH WERE NO

                    LONGER GOING TO PLAY WITH THEIR CHILDREN.  THAT CHASED THEM DOWN THE

                    STREET, THAT KNOCKED THEM DOWN.  THE BROWNSHIRTS WHO WOULD RUN

                    THROUGH THE STREETS AND BEAT UP OBVIOUS OBSERVANT JEWS.  AND THEN

                    CAME KRISTALLNACHT, THE NIGHT OF BROKEN GLASS, WHERE THE STOREFRONTS

                    WHICH HAD BEEN PAINTED OVER WITH SIGNS "JUDEN" SO EVERYBODY KNEW

                    WHAT BUSINESSES WERE OWNED BY JEWS.  THEN THEY CAME THROUGH AND

                    THEY BROKE THE WINDOWS.  FOR MANY OF US, THE SCENES THAT HAVE BEEN

                    HAPPENING ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES HAVE FELT LIKE AMERICA'S KRISTALLNACHT;

                    A SHOCK THAT SO MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES DON'T

                    UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS BUT ONE JEWISH STATE IN THE WORLD.  MANY OF US

                    DON'T LIVE THERE.  WE'VE BEEN DISBURSED.  WE'VE BEEN DISBURSED FROM

                    EVERYWHERE WE'VE LIVED BECAUSE WE'D BEEN DRIVEN OUT.  WE WERE

                    DRIVEN OUT BY THE POGROMS, WE WERE DRIVEN OUT FROM MANY CORNERS OF

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                    THE WORLD.

                                 ISRAEL STARTED AS A REFUGEE STATE.  AND NOW BECAUSE OF

                    TERRORISTS AND THE MOST HORRIFIC ATTACKS ON PEOPLE, YOUNGSTERS AT A

                    MUSIC FESTIVAL, JUST LIKE THE YOUNGSTERS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES, MOWED

                    DOWN, SHOT REPEATEDLY TO MAKE SURE.  LAST WEEK I WENT AND SAW SOME

                    FOOTAGE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE TERRORISTS' OWN PHONES THAT HAD BEEN

                    SEIZED BY ISRAELIS, THE DEFENSE FORCE.  AND THEN THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

                    IT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN ON TV.  AND I -- I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE OF

                    GAZA WHO ARE ALSO VICTIMS OF HAMAS.  BUT IT IS CHILLING, CHILLING TO US

                    TO THINK THAT IN OUR UNIVERSITIES, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE THE FUTURE

                    LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY, THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY THINK IS OKAY; TO SEE

                    YOUNGSTERS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES WEARING HAMAS BANDANAS.  I NEVER

                    THOUGHT OF ISRAEL AS PLAN B, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EUROPE DO.  AND IT IS

                    CALCULATED.  THIS SLAUGHTER WAS CALCULATED TO BRING ON THE ASSAULT BY

                    ISRAEL, THE RESPONSE BY ISRAEL, IN ORDER TO MAKE ISRAEL A PARIAH NATION,

                    AND WE CANNOT, CANNOT ALLOW THAT TO GO FORWARD AND UNCHALLENGED.

                    BECAUSE IT STARTED WITH THE TERRORISTS.

                                 NOW, NOT EVERYTHING THAT THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT HAS

                    DONE IS SOMETHING I AGREE WITH.  AND OF COURSE THE LOSS OF LIVES IN

                    GAZA IS HORRIFIC.  BUT IT STARTED WITH A TERRORIST ATTACK, AND THOSE OF US

                    WHO LIVE IN NEW YORK CITY AND LIVE IN NEW YORK STATE SHOULD

                    UNDERSTAND REALLY PERSONALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT STARTS WITH A

                    TERRORIST ATTACK AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESPOND.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. ARI BROWN.

                                 MR. A. BROWN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  AS THE

                    SON AND GRANDSON OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS, MY MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER

                    FROM ITALY, AND WHEN MUSSOLINI JOINED HITLER THEY HAD TO ESCAPE.  MY

                    MOTHER WAS BORN IN MILANO.  THEY ESCAPED TO SICILY AND EVENTUALLY

                    MADE THEIR WAY TO AMERICA THOROUGHLY VETTED, YET THEY WERE INTERRED

                    FOR 18 MONTHS RIGHT HERE IN OSWEGO, NEW YORK IN A BARBED WIRE

                    INTERMENT CAMP.  THEY WEREN'T LET OUT BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE JAPANESE,

                    THEY WEREN'T SURE OF THE LOYALTIES OF THE ITALIANS.  BUT GROWING UP I

                    HEARD THE FULL STORIES, MY MOTHER, IT'S MY GRANDMOTHER, IMMEDIATE

                    FAMILIES KILLED BABIES, KILLED BEFORE THEIR EYES.  AND WE ALWAYS HEARD

                    "NEVER AGAIN", BUT LIKE MY COLLEAGUE SAID, IT ACTUALLY JUST DID HAPPEN

                    AGAIN.  WE HAD THE LAND OF ISRAEL, WE ALWAYS DID.  WE WERE THERE FOR

                    THOUSANDS OF YEARS, BUT NOW WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL STATE THAT WE THOUGHT

                    WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE WORLD.  UNFORTUNATELY, WE REALIZED IT'S NOT

                    RECOGNIZED BY MANY.  I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE, YOU

                    KNOW, THOUGHT OF "NEVER AGAIN" AND THOUGHT ABOUT ALL THE ATROCITIES

                    AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE 15 MILLION PEOPLE, NOT A FRACTION OF A

                    PERCENT OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION, AND YET EVEN THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

                    THEY WANT TO DESTROY EVEN THAT.  WE HAVEN'T CONTRIBUTED ENOUGH TO THE

                    WORLD IN SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS AND EVERY FACET OF LIFE?  WHAT IS IT

                    ABOUT THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT THE WORLD LOOKS TO DESTROY?  IF IT WAS ANY

                    OTHER GROUP AND EVERY OTHER GROUP THAT JEWISH PEOPLE WERE THE FIRST

                    DURING TIMES OF SEGREGATION TO STAND UP FOR OTHERS, WHERE ARE THE

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                    PEOPLE STANDING UP FOR US?  IF THE KU KLUX KLAN WOULD HAVE COME INTO

                    COLUMBIA, BELIEVE ME, IT WOULD HAVE ENDED IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS.  BUT

                    JEWISH BLOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN CHEAP.  LET'S REMEMBER THAT AND REALLY

                    REMEMBER IT THIS TIME, NEVER AGAIN.

                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. SLATER.

                                 MR. SLATER:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  HARD TO

                    FOLLOW MY COLLEAGUE ARI BROWN, ASSEMBLYMAN BROWN AND HIS

                    COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND REMEMBER AND

                    RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING, ESTHER

                    GEIZHALS.  ESTHER GEIZHALS AND MY COLLEAGUE ASSEMBLYMAN WEPRIN

                    AND I HAVE A CONNECTION HERE.  BUT I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR OF

                    WELCOMING ESTHER TO THE YORKTOWN TOWN HALL DURING ONE OF OUR

                    HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE CEREMONIES, AND SHE DESCRIBED IN DETAIL THE

                    HARROWING EXPERIENCES THAT SHE HAD DURING THE HOLOCAUST.  AND I THINK

                    IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALL REMEMBER THE FACT THAT AS EACH YEAR

                    PASSES, WE'RE LOSING THOSE CONNECTIONS, WE'RE LOSING THOSE VOICES.  AND

                    TO THINK BACK TO HEAR THE FEAR STILL IN HER VOICE, TO SEE THE TEARS STILL

                    COMING DOWN HER CHEEKS.  I BROUGHT MY SIX-YEAR-OLD SON TO THAT

                    PRESENTATION, AND MY SON CHARLIE STILL REMEMBERS MAMA ESTHER TO THIS

                    DAY.  AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER AS A

                    SOCIETY, IS EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN OF THE REALITIES AND THE ATROCITIES OF

                    WHAT OCCURRED DURING THE HOLOCAUST.  THERE'S GONNA TO BE THESE TYPES

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                    OF CEREMONIES ACROSS NEW YORK STATE.  I KNOW THERE WERE SOME IN MY

                    DISTRICT OVER THE WEEKEND AND THERE WILL BE MORE IN THE COMING DAYS.

                    AND I JUST WANT TO URGE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO TAKE THE TIME, TAKE THE

                    TIME TO GO VISIT, TO GO HEAR STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVORS THEMSELVES

                    BECAUSE IT BRINGS A WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE, A WHOLE NEW EMOTION THAT

                    YOU MAY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE.

                                 AND WITH THAT I WANT TO THANK THE SPONSOR OF THE -- OF

                    THE RESOLUTION, AND ONCE AGAIN AS WE ALWAYS SAY, MAY WE NEVER FORGET

                    AND MAY WE ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE NEVER FORGET.

                    THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THANK YOU, SIR.

                                 MR. EPSTEIN.

                                 MR. EPSTEIN:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I JUST WANT

                    TO THANK THE SPONSOR OF THIS RESOLUTION.  YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF

                    INTERESTING, IN WORLD HISTORY I THINK JEWS HAVE ALWAYS HAD TOUGH TIMES

                    AND THIS FEELS LIKE ONE OF THOSE REALLY, REALLY TOUGH TIMES.  BUT THINKING

                    ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HOLOCAUST AND WHAT HAPPENED TO -- TO MY

                    ANCESTORS, TO MY FAMILY, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS DAY TO STAND UP

                    AND ACKNOWLEDGE HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY.  HARD TO IGNORE ALL

                    THE ATROCITIES THAT HAPPENED ACROSS THE GLOBE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE

                    INNOCENT, AND THE HOLOCAUST IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HORRIFIC ACTS BY

                    HUMANS ON OTHER HUMANS.  IN TODAY'S TIMES, THE MOMENT THAT WE

                    REMEMBER WHAT HUMANITY DID TO EACH OTHER, IT'S A MOMENT WE CAN'T

                    FORGET.  AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE HERE TO THINK ABOUT THE LIVES, THE

                    SIX MILLION JEWS, BUT THE MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO -- WHO WERE -- WHO

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                    PERISHED IN THE HOLOCAUST.  AND THE ABILITY OF ALL OF US NOW TO STAND UP

                    AGAINST HATE AND TOLERANCE AND BIGOTRY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO

                    TODAY.  AND I APPLAUD THE SPONSOR IN MOVING THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. BROOK-KRASNY.

                                 MR. BROOK-KRASNY:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I

                    JUST -- I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, MR. SPEAKER, AND WITH MY COLLEAGUES

                    A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD YESTERDAY.  I HAVE IN MY DISTRICT NOT TOO MANY

                    ANYMORE, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT A FEW HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS AND I HAD A

                    CONVERSATION WITH THEM YESTERDAY.  THEY HAD IN ONE OF THE

                    DEVELOPMENTS, LUNA PARK DEVELOPMENT, WE HAD -- WE HAVE A

                    HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS SYNAGOGUE.  SO I VISITED THEM AND I HAD A

                    CONVERSATION WITH THEM.  AND MR. SPEAKER, I HAVE -- I HAVE SOME

                    EXPERIENCE IN POLITICS AND I KNOW MY DISTRICT VERY WELL, AND USUALLY I

                    KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS FROM MY CONSTITUENTS.

                    YESTERDAY I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, BECAUSE THEY WERE ASKING ME

                    HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE COUNTRY AND THEY EXPRESSED THE LOVE FOR

                    THIS COUNTRY.  THEY EXPRESSED THE RESPECT FOR THE GOVERNMENT.  BUT

                    THEY WERE ASKING ME HOW THAT CAN -- COULD HAPPEN IN -- IN THE

                    UNIVERSITIES WHERE KIDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE SMARTEST.  I DIDN'T KNOW

                    HOW TO RESPOND.  AND THEN THEY -- THEY ASKED ME IF MY COLLEAGUES IN

                    THE PARLIAMENT, DO THEY UNDERSTAND IN THE STATE PARLIAMENT, DO YOU

                    UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN NEW YORK CITY, WHAT'S GOING ON IN -- IN

                    THIS COUNTRY?  I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.  I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER

                    THE QUESTION.  AND THEN THEY ASKED ME WHO IS GOING TO PROTECT US

                    AGAIN.  AND I'M SAYING IT NOW TO YOU, MR. SPEAKER, TO MY COLLEAGUES

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                    AND I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO THEM.

                    LET'S NEVER FORGET.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. STECK.

                                 MR. STECK:  VERY BRIEFLY, MR. SPEAKER.  SINCE WE

                    HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION OF CURRENT CONDITIONS, OF COURSE THE

                    HOLOCAUST OCCURRED IN EUROPE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A TEMPTATION TO SEE

                    THE STATE OF ISRAEL OTHER THAN IT IS.  IT IS NOT A EUROPEAN STATE.  FIFTY

                    PERCENT OF THE POPULATION OF ISRAEL ARE BROWN AND BLACK PEOPLE.

                    PEOPLE WHO WERE DRIVEN OUT OF COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST, IN NORTH

                    AFRICA, IN EASTERN AFRICA BECAUSE THEY WERE JEWISH.  AND THIS IS NOT A

                    -- STRICTLY A EUROPEAN WHITE PHENOMENON, IT EXTENDED TO JEWS ALL OVER

                    THE WORLD.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  MR. NOVAKHOV.

                                 MR. NOVAKHOV:  THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.  I'M

                    JEWISH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE JEWISH TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

                    LIGHT AND DARK, BETWEEN DARKNESS AND THE LIGHT.  AND I THINK EVERY

                    NORMAL PERSON SEES AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.  I

                    WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY THANK THOSE WHO FIGHT, THOSE WHO FOUGHT AGAINST

                    FASCISM IN THE COUNTRY I WAS BORN, IN THE SOVIET UNION, AND I HAVE A LOT

                    OF MANY, MANY VETERANS WHO FOUGHT IN RUSSIA.  I WOULD LIKE TO THANK

                    THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST FASCISM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO

                    THANK THOSE WHO FIGHT AGAINST THE MODERN FASCISM TODAY.  THANK YOU

                    VERY MUCH, VERY MUCH TO ALL THE FIGHTERS.

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                                 THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  ON THE RESOLUTION, I'D

                    ASK US ALL TO RISE.

                                 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED?

                    THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, WE HAVE NUMEROUS OTHER FINE

                    RESOLUTIONS WHICH WE WILL TAKE UP WITH ONE VOTE.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NOS. 2064-2084

                    AND 2092-2103 WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MR. SPEAKER, I WILL

                    NEVER FORGET.  HOWEVER, NOW I MOVE THAT ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED

                    AND THAT WE RECONVENE AT 2:00 P.M., TUESDAY, MAY THE 7TH, TOMORROW

                    BEING A SESSION DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER AUBRY:  THE ASSEMBLY STANDS

                    ADJOURNED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 5:20 P.M., THE HOUSE STOOD ADJOURNED

                    UNTIL TUESDAY, MAY 7TH AT 2:00 P.M., TUESDAY BEING A SESSION DAY.)











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