WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 2025                                                                  10:41 A.M.



                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE HOUSE WILL

                    COME TO ORDER.  GOOD MORNING, COLLEAGUES.

                                 IN THE ABSENCE OF CLERGY, LET US PAUSE FOR A MOMENT OF

                    SILENCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, A MOMENT OF SILENCE WAS OBSERVED.)

                                 VISITORS ARE INVITED TO JOIN THE MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE

                    OF ALLEGIANCE.

                                 (WHEREUPON, ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER LED VISITORS AND

                    MEMBERS IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.)

                                 A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE CLERK WILL READ THE

                    JOURNAL OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11TH.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MADAM SPEAKER, I MOVE

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                    TO DISPENSE WITH THE FURTHER READING OF THE JOURNAL OF TUESDAY,

                    FEBRUARY THE 11TH AND THAT THE SAME STAND APPROVED.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WITHOUT OBJECTION,

                    SO ORDERED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER AND COLLEAGUES, FOR -- IN THE CHAMBERS, THOSE IN AND AROUND

                    THE CAPITOL, I KNOW THEY'RE -- WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE GETTING THE WORK

                    OF THE PEOPLE DONE.  BUT THESE WORDS I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU.  IT'S JUST

                    A FOLLOW-UP TO MR. DERUSO'S [SIC] RESOLUTION THAT HE DID ON YESTERDAY,

                    AND IT SAYS, LOVE AND KINDNESS ARE NEVER WASTED.  THEY ARE ALWAYS --

                    THEY ALWAYS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  THEY BLESS THE ONE WHO RECEIVES

                    THEM, AND THEY BLESS THE ONE WHO GIVES [SIC].  THESE -- THESE WORDS ARE

                    FROM BARBARA DEGELIS [SIC], WHO IS AN AMERICAN TV PERSONALITY AND A

                    RELATIONSHIP SPECIALIST.

                                 MADAM SPEAKER, MEMBERS DO HAVE ON THEIR DESKS A

                    MAIN CALENDAR, AND AFTER YOU HAVE DONE ANY HOUSEKEEPING AND/OR

                    INTRODUCTIONS WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN OUR FLOOR WORK BY TAKING UP

                    CALENDAR RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 3.  WE WILL THEN TAKE UP THE FOLLOWING

                    BILLS ON DEBATE:  RULES REPORT NO. 28 -- 38, MY APOLOGY, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 38 BY MR. OTIS, AND RULES REPORT NO. 55 BY MS. SHIMSKY.  WE

                    WILL ALSO CONSENT FOUR NEW BILLS TO THE CALENDAR, BEGINNING WITH RULES

                    REPORT NO. 97 ON PAGE 7.  IF THERE IS A NEED FOR FURTHER FLOOR ACTIVITY

                    TODAY, MADAM SPEAKER, WE WILL ADVISE AT THAT TIME.

                                 THAT'S A GENERAL OUTLINE OF WHERE WE'RE AT.  IF YOU CAN

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                    BEGIN WITH YOUR HOUSEKEEPING AND YOUR OPERATIONS, VERY MUCH

                    APPRECIATE IT.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.  WE

                    HAVE NO HOUSEKEEPING THIS MORNING AND WE HAVE A FEW INTRODUCTIONS.

                                 MR. COLTON FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. COLTON:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  I

                    WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TODAY A FEW MEMBERS WHO ARE VISITING US FROM

                    A MOSQUE THAT IS VERY PROMINENT IN MY DISTRICT.  WE HAVE IMAM HAFIZ

                    MAAZ ALI -- AND IF THEY CAN STAND -- AND CHAPLAIN MUAWAZ ALI.  HAFIZ

                    IS A TITLE WHICH INDICATES SOMEBODY WHO HAS MEMORIZED THE HOLY

                    QURAN AND CAN RECITE IT FROM MEMORY, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE MEMBERS

                    OF THE IQRA MASJID IN MY DISTRICT IN BROOKLYN.  THEY HAVE BEEN VERY

                    ACTIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WORKING TO BRING TOGETHER PEACE AND

                    UNDERSTANDING AMONG PEOPLE AND TO UNITE INTERFAITH COMMUNITIES,

                    SETTING AN EXAMPLE BY SERVING THOSE IN NEED WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION OF

                    RACE, COLOR OR FAITH.  THEY HAVE ACTUALLY, DURING COVID, SET UP MANY

                    FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS AND -- WHICH WERE OPEN TO ALL, AND EVEN AFTER

                    COVID THEY HAVE CONTINUED THOSE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS.  WE THANK IMAM

                    MAAZ AND CHAPLAIN MUAWAZ.  ACCOMPANYING THEM ALSO ARE AHMED

                    USMAN HABIB AND SHAHLA GUL, WHO ARE VISITING HERE AND STAYING IN THE

                    DISTRICT IN BROOKLYN.  AND I ASK THAT YOU EXTEND YOUR WARM WELCOME

                    AND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE TO THESE DISTINGUISHED VISITORS FROM MY

                    DISTRICT.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON BEHALF OF MR. COLTON, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE

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                    MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU TO THE CHAMBER, EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF

                    THE FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PROCEEDINGS TODAY.  THANK YOU SO

                    VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MS. KASSAY FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MS. KASSAY:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  I AM

                    VERY PROUD TO INTRODUCE TWO MEMBERS OF THE SUNY STUDENT ASSEMBLY

                    WHO ARE HERE IN THE CAPITOL TODAY, ALONG WITH 100 FELLOW STUDENT

                    ASSEMBLY MEMBERS FROM SUNY CAMPUSES THROUGHOUT THE GREAT STATE

                    OF NEW YORK.  THE SUNY STUDENT ASSEMBLY MEETS THROUGHOUT THE

                    YEAR TO SERVE AS THE OFFICIAL STATEWIDE SUNY STUDENT GOVERNANCE

                    ORGANIZATION, REPRESENTING THE OVER 1.3 MILLION STUDENTS ACROSS OUR

                    SUNY SYSTEM.  WE ARE -- HERE WITH US NOW ARE LUCA RALLIS AND STELLA

                    -- SARAH ELBAROUDY, WHO SERVE AS SHARED GOVERNANCE LEADERS AT STONY

                    BROOK UNIVERSITY.  THEY PLAY KEY ROLES IN REPRESENTING STUDENT

                    INTERESTS AND ADVOCATING FOR THE POLICIES AND INITIATIVES THAT BENEFIT THE

                    STUDENT BODIES.

                                 HAVING SERVED ON THE SUNY NEW PALTZ STUDENT

                    SENATE MYSELF, I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN HEARING AND

                    CELEBRATING THE VOICES OF THESE STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES, AS I HAVE NO

                    DOUBT THAT WE WILL BE WELCOMING THEM AS WELL AS THE OTHER SUNY

                    STUDENT ASSEMBLY MEMBERS TO OUR CHAMBERS AS OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE

                    FUTURE.

                                 MADAM SPEAKER, PLEASE WELCOME THESE DISTINGUISHED

                    GUESTS TO THE CHAMBERS AND EXTEND TO THEM THE CORDIALITIES OF THE

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                    HOUSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON BEHALF OF MS. KASSAY, THE SPEAKER AND ALL THE

                    MEMBERS, WELCOME, YOUNG PEOPLE FROM SUNY.  WE WELCOME YOU TO

                    THE CHAMBER, EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  HOPE YOU ENJOY OUR

                    PROCEEDINGS TODAY.  THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 MR. GRAY FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN INTRODUCTION.

                                 MR. GRAY:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  IT IS MY

                    PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE OF GUESTS THAT ARE WITH US TODAY.  FIRST IS

                    COREY FRAM.  HE'S FROM THE WONDERFUL THOUSAND ISLANDS IN THE 116TH

                    ASSEMBLY DISTRICT.  AS YOU KNOW, TOURISM IS ONE OF OUR MAJOR

                    INDUSTRIES IN NEW YORK STATE, AND COREY DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB IN

                    TERMS OF REPRESENTING TOURISM AND REPRESENTING THE THOUSAND ISLANDS.

                    WE ALSO HAVE WITH US EMILY SIMMONS, WHO COMES FROM CARRIE

                    WOERNER'S DISTRICT, ASSEMBLYWOMAN -- ASSEMBLYWOMAN WOERNER'S

                    DISTRICT, AND SHE IS WITH CAMPGROUND OWNERS OF NEW YORK.

                                 AND SO WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME THEM TO THE CHAMBER

                    AND OFFER THEM THE CORDIALITY OF THE FLOOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON BEHALF OF MR. GRAY, MS. WOERNER, THE SPEAKER

                    AND ALL THE MEMBERS, WE WELCOME YOU TO THE CHAMBER, EXTEND THE

                    PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR AND HOPE YOU ENJOY OUR PROCEEDINGS TODAY.

                    THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

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                                 RESOLUTIONS, PAGE 3, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 107, MR.

                    EACHUS.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 15, 2025 AS NATIONAL SCHOOL

                    RESOURCE OFFICER APPRECIATION DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE RESOLUTION,

                    ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THIS RESOLUTION

                    IS ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 108, MR.

                    MCDONALD.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 28, 2025 AS RARE DISEASE DAY IN

                    THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE RESOLUTION,

                    ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 109, MR.

                    RAGA.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING GOVERNOR

                    KATHY HOCHUL TO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 20, 2025 AS A DAY OF SOCIAL

                    JUSTICE IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE RESOLUTION,

                    ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS

                    ADOPTED.

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                                 PAGE 4, RULES REPORT NO. 38, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00433, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 38, OTIS, SANTABARBARA.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE STATE TECHNOLOGY

                    LAW AND THE CIVIL SERVICE LAW, IN RELATION TO THE DISCLOSURE OF

                    AUTOMATED EMPLOYMENT DECISION-MAKING TOOLS AND MAINTAINING AN

                    ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE INVENTORY; TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF

                    2024 AMENDING THE STATE TECHNOLOGY LAW RELATING TO AUTOMATED

                    DECISION-MAKING BY STATE AGENCIES, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS

                    NUMBERS S.7543-B AND A.9430-B, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS

                    THEREOF; TO REPEAL SECTIONS 1 AND 3 OF A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2024

                    AMENDING THE STATE TECHNOLOGY LAW RELATING TO AUTOMATED

                    DECISION-MAKING BY STATE AGENCIES, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS

                    NUMBERS S.7543-B AND A.9430-B, IN RELATION TO THE SHORT TITLE AND

                    DISCLOSURE; TO REPEAL SECTIONS 403 AND 404 OF THE STATE TECHNOLOGY

                    LAW RELATING TO IMPACT ASSESSMENTS AND SUBMISSION OF CERTAIN REPORTS;

                    AND PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS UPON EXPIRATION

                    THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    OTIS, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS ADVANCED.

                                 AN EXPLANATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED, MR. OTIS.

                                 MR. OTIS:  THANK YOU.  THIS LEGISLATION IS A CHAPTER

                    AMENDMENT TO A BILL THAT WE PASSED LAST YEAR AND THAT WAS SIGNED BY

                    THE GOVERNOR TO INSTITUTE SOME TRANSPARENCY RELATED TO THE USE OF AI BY

                    STATE AGENCIES.  WHAT THE CHAPTER AMENDMENT DOES IS THIS WILL COVER

                    AI USED IN EMPLOYMENT-MAKING DECISIONS BY STATE AGENCIES.  IT WILL

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                    PROVIDE THE OFFICE OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES WITH THE

                    RESPONSIBILITY OF POSTING THE -- AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF THE AI TOOLS THAT

                    ARE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.  THE ITS WILL PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO STATE

                    AGENCIES ON HOW TO PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR THAT INVENTORY, AND THE

                    PUBLIC WILL BE MADE AWARE, NUMBER ONE, ON STATE WEBSITES WHEN AI IS

                    USED FOR THESE PURPOSES, AND ACCESS TO THE INVENTORY WILL BE AVAILABLE

                    ON STATE WEBSITES AS WELL.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  WILL THE

                    SPONSOR YIELD FOR JUST A FEW QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 MR. OTIS:  OF COURSE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.  SO, I KNOW

                    THAT IN THE PAST THE -- HAS THE STATE IN THE PAST USED THINGS LIKE INDEED

                    OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR -- TO -- TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR WORK

                    WITH -- WITH THE STATE?

                                 MR. OTIS:  I REALLY DON'T HAVE A LIST OF THE TOOLS

                    THEY'VE USED.  THE IMPORTANT THING HERE AND WITH THIS LEGISLATION, THE

                    FIRST IN THE NATION WHERE BY STATUTE WE ARE REQUIRING STATE AGENCIES TO

                    PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY FOR THESE ACTIVITIES.  SO THAT'S A QUESTION WE CAN

                    ASK ITS.  THEY HAVEN'T DONE THE INVENTORY YET SINCE THE LAW IS NOT IN --

                    IN EFFECT YET, BUT I WOULD SAY MORE BROADLY THAT WE ARE DOING THIS FOR

                    STATE AGENCIES.  BUT AS I OFTEN SAY AS CHAIR OF THE SCIENCE AND

                    TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE, TO PRIVATE SECTOR GROUPS THAT COME IN THAT

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                    USING AI, LEAVING ASIDE WHETHER THERE'S FEDERAL OR STATE REGULATION AT

                    ALL, IF YOU'RE USING AN AI TOOL YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU'RE USING.

                    YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS, YOU SHOULD GIVE THAT THE KIND OF

                    SCRUTINY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE IMPLICATIONS AND

                    FUNCTIONALITY OF THE TOOL THAT YOU'D BE USING.  AND SO THIS IS A STEP IN

                    THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO HAVE THE STATE DO THAT AND PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY

                    TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY'RE USING.

                                 MS. WALSH:  AND YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS IS THE

                    FIRST IN THE NATION.  IS THERE -- SO YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO RELY UPON WHAT

                    ANY OTHER STATE WAS DOING IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT.  SO WHAT -- HOW --

                    HOW WAS THIS ORIGINAL LEGISLATION DEVELOPED AND THEN HOW WERE THE

                    CHANGE -- HOW WERE THE CHANGES MADE IN THE CHAPTER THOUGHT UP AND

                    PUT IN?

                                 MR. OTIS:  SO, THERE IS -- IS AI LEGISLATION FLOATING

                    AROUND IN OTHER STATE LEGISLATURES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SOME

                    LEGISLATION IN WASHINGTON.  MOST OF THOSE HAVE NOT PASSED.  BUT THIS IS

                    THE FIRST PASSED SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO STATE AGENCY USE OF AI.  AND SO

                    OTHER STATES ARE SORT OF DABBLING IN THE AREA OF AI USE IN THE PRIVATE

                    SECTOR AND -- AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO

                    LOOK AT.  BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER STATES ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS

                    OF DRAFTING AND LANGUAGE, AND THESE CHANGES WERE THROUGH CHAPTER

                    AMENDMENT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  AND WHAT WERE THE PRIMARY CONCERNS

                    ABOUT STATE AGENCY USE OF AI IN MAKING EMPLOYMENT DECISIONS?

                                 MR. OTIS:  WELL, I -- I THINK JUST GENERICALLY, THE

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                    PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW WHEN AI IS BEING USED.  STATE AGENCIES SHOULD BE

                    PROVIDING SOME LEVEL OF INTROSPECTION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE USING, HOW IT

                    WORKS, IS IT ACCURATE, IS IT DISCRIMINATORY.  THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE

                    SHOULD NOT BE JUST DEFAULTING ON; YOU'RE GOING TO BUY AN AI TOOL AND

                    JUST ASSUME IT DOES EVERYTHING AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

                    WE'RE GONNA WANT SOME ANALYSIS, AND THE INVENTORY WILL ALLOW THE

                    PUBLIC TO SAY, OH, YOU'RE USING THIS.  YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE ARE

                    FAULTS IN THAT -- THAT SYSTEM OR THAT METHODOLOGY.  AND STATE AGENCIES

                    ALREADY -- UNDER THE -- THE GOVERNOR POLICIES ALREADY HAS SOME

                    PROTOCOLS FOR RESPONSIBLE AI USE BY STATE AGENCIES THAT WERE NOT

                    STATUTORY, BUT THEY'RE IN PLAY AND THAT THE GOVERNOR AND HER TEAM HAVE

                    BEEN FORWARD-THINKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES AS WELL.

                                 MS. WALSH:  SO NOW THEY'LL BE STATUTORY, AND

                    THERE'LL ALSO HAVE TO BE THE TRANSPARENCY WHERE THEY'LL HAVE TO DISCLOSE

                    IT ON ANY AGENCY WEBSITE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE -- THAT THEY

                    ARE UTILIZING.

                                 MR. OTIS:  SO, STATE AGENCIES WOULD DISCLOSE ON

                    THEIR WEBSITE WHEN -- WHERE THEY'RE USING IT.  THE INVENTORY WOULD BE

                    PROVIDED THROUGH THE WORK OF ITS ON THEIR WEBSITE.

                                 MS. WALSH:  OKAY.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

                    OTIS.  I APPRECIATE IT.

                                 MR. OTIS:  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. BLUMENCRANZ:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER.  ON THE -- SORRY, TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.  THIS BILL MADE

                    SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE FIRST ROUND OF WHAT WE SAW LAST

                    YEAR AND AFTER OUR DEBATE AND PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

                    SPONSOR.  I APPRECIATE THE NEW LANGUAGE WITHIN THE BILL.  WHILE THERE

                    HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, I STILL THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE WORK

                    COLLABOR -- COLLABORATIVELY TO SEE THE CLARITY AND LANGUAGE WHEN IT'S SO

                    IMPORTANT AS WE ENTER THIS TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION AND THE USE OF

                    TECHNOLOGY IN IMPROVING GOVERNMENT AND EFFICIENCY.

                                 THANK YOU, AND ON THE BILL I'LL BE IN FAVOR.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  MR. BLUMENCRANZ IN

                    THE AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE

                    THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 PAGE 6, RULES REPORT NO. 55, THE CLERK WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  SENATE NO. S00759, RULES REPORT NO.

                    55, SENATOR HARCKHAM (A01679, SHIMSKY).  AN ACT TO AMEND THE

                    ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION LAW, IN RELATION TO EXPANDING THE FOOD

                    DONATION AND FOOD SCRAPS RECYCLING PROGRAM; AND TO AMEND A

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                    CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2024 AMENDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL

                    CONSERVATION LAW RELATING TO EXPANDING THE FOOD DONATION AND FOOD

                    SCRAPS RECYCLING PROGRAM, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS

                    S.5331-A AND A.5906-A, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  AN EXPLANATION HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED, MS. SHIMSKY.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  OKAY.  THIS BILL IS A CHAPTER

                    AMENDMENT WHICH WOULD DELAY BY ONE YEAR THE EXPANSION OF THE FOOD

                    DONATION AND FOOD SCRAPS RECYCLING PROGRAM AS ENACTED BY CHAPTER

                    552 OF THE LAWS OF 2024.  SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD DELAY UNTIL JANUARY OF

                    2027 THE INCLUSION OF BUSINESSES WITH ONE TON OF FOOD SCRAPS PER WEEK;

                    DELAY UNTIL JANUARY OF 2029 THE INCLUSION OF BUSINESSES WITH HALF A TON

                    OF FOOD SCRAPS PER WEEK; AND DELAY UNTIL JANUARY OF 2027 THE 50-MILE

                    DISTANCE RULE FOR FOOD SCRAPS RECYCLING.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  MR. SIMPSON.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.

                    WOULD THE BILL SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  SURE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  SO, OTHER THAN THE CHANGES THAT YOU

                    JUST CITED, WERE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES IN THIS BILL OTHER --

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  NO.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  WERE THERE ANY CHANGES FROM -- BY

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                    DEC AND THE METHODOLOGY USED TO CALCULATE THE AMOUNT OF WASTE?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  NO.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  SO, IT'S STILL --

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  ONLY THE NUMBERS CHANGED.  ONLY

                    THE DATES CHANGED, THAT WAS IT.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  OKAY.  COULD YOU TELL ME HOW

                    MANY NEW FACILITIES -- FIRST OF ALL, HOW MANY FACILITIES ARE THERE NOW

                    CURRENTLY IN NEW YORK THAT ACCEPT COMPOSTING MATERIAL?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  FORTY-FOUR.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  AND THAT WAS LAST YEAR'S NUMBER.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  IT'S THE SAME CURRENTLY?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  WELL, IT'S FAIRLY EARLY IN THE YEAR.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  SO THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY

                    IMPROVEMENT IN THE ACCESSIBILITY TO COMPOSTING FACILITIES?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  WE'RE -- WE DON'T HAVE AN UPDATED

                    MEASUREMENT AT THIS POINT.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY PROGRAMS THAT

                    HAVE BEEN DESIGNED BY DEC TO ENCOURAGE SMALL BUSINESSES OR OFFSET

                    THE COST IN IMPLEMENTING, PLANNING, FIGURING OUT HOW THEY'RE GONNA

                    COMPLY WITH THIS LAW?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  THERE -- THERE IS FUNDING FROM EPF

                    TO HELP EDUCATE BUSINESSES AND TO MORE FORWARD WITH COMPLIANCE, YES.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  HAS THAT MONEY ACTUALLY GOTTEN OUT

                    THE DOOR AND PRODUCED ANY RESULTS?

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                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  SO IN NEW FACILITIES OR NEW -- IT'S

                    ACTUALLY GOING TO THE BUSINESSES TO HELP OFFSET ANY COSTS IN PLANNING?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  IT'S AVAILABLE TO BUSINESSES.  IT'S

                    GOING TOWARD EDUCATION.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  OKAY.  DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON HOW

                    MANY PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE COMPOSTING

                    FACILITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT ARE CAPTURED UNDER THE -- THE CURRENT

                    LAW?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  UM, HOLD -- HOLD ON.  I BELIEVE WE

                    DO.  FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  FOR THE ENTIRE STATE?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  OKAY.  AND WE PRESUMABLY WOULD

                    KNOW HOW MANY TONS OF COMPOSTING MATERIAL, WE WOULD HAVE ALL THAT

                    DATA?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  WELL, UNDER THE METHODOLOGY WE

                    COULD DO THE MATH.  I CAN'T DO IT IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW, BUT WE DO HAVE

                    THE MATH.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MORE FAMILIAR

                    WITH THE PROGRAM AND WHERE NEW YORK STATE HAS GONE AS FAR AS THEIR

                    PLANNING TO ACCOMMODATE THIS LAW.  YOU KNOW, IN MY DISTRICT THERE'S A

                    BIG PUSH FOR COMPOSTING.  I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT IT, BUT ONE OF THE

                    ISSUES IS THE LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY TO A COMPOSTING FACILITY.  AND I THINK,

                    YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNOR STATED HER CONCERNS WITH THIS.  AND, YOU

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                    KNOW, FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS LAW I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW,

                    WHAT PROGRESSIVE THINGS ARE WE DOING SO THAT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND

                    FOOD GENERATORS OR WASTE GENERATORS CAN COMPLY WITH THIS LAW.

                    BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN A LAW IS PASSED, IF THERE ISN'T A GOOD

                    SUSTAINABLE PROGRAM THERE'S FAILURE AND WE HAVE THE OPPOSITE RESULT.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  WELL, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GIVING THE

                    EXTRA YEAR TO MAKE EXTRA SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED IN PLACE.  IN

                    OTHER STATES WHICH HAVE MOVED FURTHER ALONG THAN WE HAVE, MY

                    UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A COMBINATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ENTITIES

                    THAT STEP IN AND MAKE SURE THE COMPOSTING IS DONE.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  OKAY.  JUST CHECK TO SEE IF I HIT ALL

                    MY QUESTIONS.  I THINK I'VE HIT MY QUESTIONS.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  OKAY, THANK YOU.  AND THE ONE

                    THING I WOULD SAY IS IF THE CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE NOT FAR ENOUGH ALONG,

                    VOTING FOR A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD IDEA, BUT

                    THAT'S JUST ME.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  I'D LIKE TO GO ON THE BILL, PLEASE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. SIMPSON:  AGAIN, WE HAVE A -- A

                    WELL-MEANING, WELL-INTENTIONED PIECE OF LEGISLATION, A CHAPTER

                    AMENDMENT AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE GOVERNOR RIGHTLY CALLS OUT THE

                    ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLY WITH THIS LAW.  I'M NOT SO SURE THAT EVEN A

                    YEAR AND THE EXTENSIONS IN THIS CHAPTER WILL MAKE THIS ANY BETTER, ANY

                    EASIER FOR OUR RESTAURANTS AND OUR FOOD GENERATORS TO COMPLY.  I THINK

                    WE -- IT'S INCUMBENT ON US, AS THE LEGISLATURE, TO ENSURE THAT OUR

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                    AGENCIES HAVE DONE THE LEGWORK, HAVE DONE THE PLANNING, MADE THE

                    INVESTMENT ON BEHALF OF THE TAXPAYERS SO THAT THE INTENDED RESULTS ARE

                    ACTUALLY SEEN.  AND FAR TOO OFTEN IN THIS CHAMBER WE PASS LAWS THAT ARE

                    PREEMPTIVE, LACKING OF ANY PLANNING, ANY ENGINEERING, ANY REAL

                    THOUGHTFUL PROCESS INTO HOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS EASY.  AND WE'VE

                    SEEN IN OTHER GARBAGE SITUATIONS -- TAKE FOR INSTANCE THE TVS AND THE

                    ELECTRONICS.  WHEN THAT FIRST CAME OUT AND PEOPLE WERE FACED WITH THE

                    COST OF BRINGING BACK THEIR TV, WHERE DID WE FIND THOSE TVS?  ON THE

                    BACK ROADS, IN RAVINES, AND WE HAD A REAL PROBLEM IN A LOT OF OUR RURAL

                    COMMUNITIES.  AND THIS LAW WILL FORCE BUSINESSES IN RURAL COMMUNITIES

                    THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS WITHIN THE 50 MILES OR 25 MILES, IT'S GONNA FORCE

                    THEM TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS AND IT'S GONNA IMPACT THEIR BOTTOM LINE

                    AT A TIME WHEN WE KNOW THAT BUSINESSES ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING IN NEW

                    YORK.  EVERY NEW YORKER IS STRUGGLING WITH AFFORDABILITY.  THE LAST

                    THING WE SHOULD BE DOING IS PASSING A SCRAPPY, CRAPPY LAW.

                                 SO I VOTE NO AND I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN

                    THE CHAMBER TO TAKE A PAUSE.  LET'S NOT PASS THIS LAW RIGHT NOW, LET'S

                    JUST TAKE A BREAK AND WORK ON A PROGRAM THAT WORKS.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  MR. GANDOLFO.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.

                    WILL THE SPONSOR PLEASE YIELD FOR A COUPLE OF MORE QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  SURE.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

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                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  THANK YOU.  SO, I HAVE A COUPLE

                    OF QUESTIONS ON THE DONATIONS OF THE EDIBLE FOOD.  IS THERE A PROCEDURE

                    TO ENSURE THAT THE EDIBLE FOOD BEING DONATED IS SAFE TO EAT AND NOT

                    CONTAMINATED OR EXPIRED?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  THIS BILL DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT.

                    THERE ARE OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH AND OTHER REGULATIONS THAT DO.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  OKAY.  NOW, IN THAT VEIN, IS THERE

                    ANY RISK TO A BUSINESS THAT DONATES THESE FOODS, THE EDIBLE FOOD, AND

                    BUT BY THE TIME IT GETS TO ITS FINAL LOCATION SOMETHING -- SOMEONE GETS

                    SICK, SOMETHING'S NOT CORRECT, ARE THEY SHIELDED AT ALL FROM ANY

                    LIABILITY?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  THIS BILL STRICTLY DEALS WITH THE DATE

                    OF IMPLEMENTATION, SO THAT'S NOT -- THIS BILL -- THAT'S NOT RELEVANT TO THIS

                    BILL.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  WELL, I MEAN, IT'S -- IT DELAYS IT BY

                    A YEAR, SO I GUESS THEY WOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO GET READY.  MY

                    QUESTION WAS WITHIN THAT ONE-YEAR TIME FRAME, DO WE EXPECT ANY

                    REGULATIONS COMING FROM DEC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ANY -- ANYTHING

                    PROMULGATED TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE LIKE THAT?  BECAUSE I KNOW DEC IS

                    GIVEN -- THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET THE REPORTS ON THIS EVERY YEAR.  DO THEY

                    HAVE ANY REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO PROMULGATE ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES ON

                    THIS?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL AS TO WHAT

                    DEC MIGHT REGULATE, BUT AGAIN, THIS BASICALLY DEALS WITH THE ONE-YEAR

                    EXTENSION OF THE IMPLEMENTATION.

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                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  OKAY.  AND THE ONE-YEAR

                    EXTENSION, YOU BELIEVE THAT'S ENOUGH TIME FOR SOME OF THESE SMALLER

                    RESTAURANTS TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE AND EXECUTE THIS

                    PROPERLY?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  I SHOULD THINK IT -- I SHOULD THINK IT

                    WILL.  WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN OTHER STATES IS IT DOESN'T TAKE -- IT DOES NOT

                    TAKE VAST AMOUNTS OF TIME TO GET THIS DONE.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  OKAY.  AND THE ONE-YEAR DELAY,

                    WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE INDUSTRY, BY ANY OF THEIR

                    TRADE ASSOCIATIONS?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  IT WAS -- IT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE

                    GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  OKAY.  BUT SO, WAS -- IT'S NOT

                    SOMETHING THAT THE INDUSTRY -- WAS NEGOTIATED BY THE INDUSTRY OR BY THE

                    LEGISLATURE?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  IT WAS -- IT WAS NEGOTIATED BY THE

                    TWO POLITICAL BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, THE LEGISLATURE AND THE

                    GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  OKAY.  BECAUSE ONE -- ONE OF THE

                    CONCERNS THAT I HAVE EVEN WITH THE ONE YEAR DELAY, A LOT OF BUSINESSES

                    FEEL LIKE THERE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL COSTS IMPOSED ON THEM.  IT'S --

                    IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT.  SO WITH THE YEAR DELAY NOW, WHAT -- WHAT'S A

                    REASONABLE COST THAT SMALL BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, SHOULD EXPECT TO

                    INCUR COMPLYING WITH THIS?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  OKAY, THE ANSWER IS STILL THE SAME

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                    BUT IF IT'S HELPFUL, WE DID NOT GET ANY MEMOS OF OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  OKAY.  OKAY, THANK YOU.  THANK

                    YOU TO THE SPONSOR.

                                 MADAM SPEAKER, ON THE BILL BRIEFLY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. GANDOLFO:  IT -- IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE'RE

                    DELAYING THE -- THE ENACTMENT OF THIS PROGRAM BY A YEAR.  I THINK IT WILL

                    GIVE BUSINESSES MORE TIME TO COMPLY, BUT THE UNDERLYING ISSUE STILL

                    REMAINS THAT IT IS BURDENSOME ON A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES.  I KNOW THE

                    INDUSTRY HAS TAKEN SOME ISSUE WITH IT BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY

                    PREPARING FOR A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROGRAM.  AND NOW EVEN WITH THE

                    ONE-YEAR DELAY, ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT AND MONEY THEY PUT INTO THEIR

                    ORIGINAL PLANS IS NOW KIND OF NULL AND VOID.  SO, AGAIN, IT'S GREAT TO GIVE

                    THEM ONE MORE YEAR, BUT I -- I STILL THINK THE UNDERLYING PROGRAM HERE

                    MISSES THE MARK.

                                 THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. DURSO.

                                 MR. DURSO:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  WOULD

                    THE SPONSOR YIELD FOR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WILL THE SPONSOR

                    YIELD?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

                                 MR. DURSO:  THANK YOU, MA'AM.  JUST TO FOLLOW UP,

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                    YOU SAID CURRENTLY THERE'S 44 RECYCLING FACILITIES NOW THAT ARE TAKING

                    FOOD SCRAPS?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.  AND YOU SAID 594 RESTAURANTS

                    CURRENTLY ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM, ARE USING THE PROGRAM?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  CORRECT.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.  SO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF -- FOR

                    THIS AMENDMENT, EXCUSE ME, IS PUSHING IT -- THE IMPLEMENTATION BACK A

                    YEAR?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  CORRECT.

                                 MR. DURSO:  WHAT IS THE -- THE REASON THAT IT'S BEING

                    PUSHED BACK A YEAR?  I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE REASON WHY

                    IT'S PUSHED BACK A YEAR, RIGHT, IS TO GIVE RESTAURANTS MORE TIME TO

                    IMPLEMENT THIS, CORRECT?  AND --

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 MR. DURSO:  -- FOR MORE FACILITIES TO OPEN ALSO,

                    CORRECT?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.  HOW MANY FACILITIES DO WE --

                    DO WE THINK WILL BE OPEN WITHIN A YEAR'S TIME?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  WELL, THAT'S NOT A YES -- THAT'S NOT A

                    SIMPLE QUESTION BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE FACILITIES, THE

                    LOCATIONS OF THE FACILITIES, THAT NUMBER CAN DIFFER.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.  BUT -- BUT DOES DEC AND THE

                    STATE HAVE A IDEA OF MAYBE HOW MANY -- I MEAN, THERE'S ONLY 44 NOW,

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                    RIGHT, SO IF -- IF WE'RE PUSHING THIS BACK A YEAR TO GIVE RESTAURANTS MORE

                    TIME TO IMPLEMENT IT, WOULDN'T WE ALSO BE HOPING THAT IN THAT TIME

                    FRAME, MORE FACILITIES WOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN UP SO THAT THE RESTAURANTS

                    CAN COMPLY WITH THE LAW THAT'S BEING PUT IN PLACE?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  ONE WOULD THINK, BUT AGAIN, IN

                    TERMS OF TIMING, SUPPLY AND DEMAND CURVES ARE KIND OF A WIGGY THING.

                                 MR. DURSO:  SO -- SO WE HAVE -- WE -- WE HAVE NO

                    CLUE, REALLY, HOW MANY FACILITIES WE THINK COULD BE OPEN WITHIN THE

                    NEXT YEAR.  DO WE KNOW OF ANY PLANS OF OTHER FACILITIES BEING OPENED,

                    WHERE THEY ARE, DO THEY FALL WITHIN THE DISTANCE THAT IS REQUIRED IN THIS

                    LAW?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  WELL, UNDER THE LAWS OF ECONOMICS,

                    IF YOU WANTED TO OPEN A BUSINESS TO TAKE THESE MATERIALS, PRESUMABLY

                    THAT'S WHERE YOU'D OPENED THEM.  I MEAN, WE HAVE TO TRUST THE FREE

                    MARKET TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

                                 MR. DURSO:  SO -- SO WE HAVE NO IDEA OF HOW MANY

                    MORE FACILITIES WOULD BE OPENED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  THE ANSWER IS STILL NO.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  AND WE DON'T -- THERE'S NO SIMPLE

                    ANSWERS AS TO HOW MANY WE'D NEED, EITHER.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.  SO THIS BEING PUSHED BACK A

                    YEAR, THERE'S 44 FACILITIES.  DID THE DISTANCE -- THE DISTANCE PORTION OF

                    THIS LAW CHANGE IN THE AMENDMENT AT ALL?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  NO.

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                                 MR. DURSO:  NO.  SO IT'S JUST LITERALLY THE TIMELINE.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  CORRECT.

                                 MR. DURSO:  OKAY.  THANK YOU, MA'AM, I

                    APPRECIATE IT.

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. DURSO:  ON THE BILL, MADAM SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. DURSO:  SO, AGAIN, I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY, I

                    THINK THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND THE IDEA OF THE PROGRAM IS GOOD, AND I

                    APPRECIATE IT BEING PUSHED BACK ANOTHER YEAR TO IMPLEMENT IT.  BUT

                    AGAIN, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM THAT NOT EVERY RESTAURANT OR

                    FACILITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE PART IN, WHETHER IT BE DISTANCE OR

                    COSTS TO THE SMALL BUSINESS.  AND THE STATE ITSELF IS NOT SET UP WITH THE

                    PROPER FACILITIES AT THIS TIME THAT CAN TAKE IN THE FOOD SCRAPS AND DO

                    WHAT IS NECESSARY.

                                 SO AGAIN, I -- I FEEL THIS BILL MISSES THE MARK.  I

                    APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR TAKING THE QUESTIONS, AND I APPRECIATE THE BILL

                    PUSHING THE TIMELINE BACK, BUT AGAIN, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THE STATE'S

                    GONNA IMPLEMENT THIS.  SO I WILL BE A NO ON THIS.  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 MR. CHANG.

                                 MR. CHANG:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  WOULD

                    THE SPONSOR YIELD?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WILL THE SPONSOR

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                    YIELD?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  YES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE SPONSOR YIELDS.

                                 MR. CHANG:  THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING THIS BILL.

                    THERE IS WASTE, OVERALL.  BUT DOES THE BILL INCLUDES [SIC] COLLECTION OF

                    PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR BREAKFAST OR LUNCH?  THEY -- THEY USE QUITE A BIT OF

                    WASTE ON -- ON THE FOOD.  DOES IT INCLUDE THOSE FOOD SCRAPS FROM PUBLIC

                    SCHOOL?

                                 MS. SHIMSKY:  THIS BILL ONLY DEALS WITH THE DATE OF

                    IMPLEMENTATION.

                                 MR. CHANG:  OKAY.

                                 ON THE BILL, MA'AM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON THE BILL.

                                 MR. CHANG:  CERTAINLY.  IT'S GREAT FOR THIS BILL TO --

                    TO PRESERVE TO -- TO RECYCLE FOOD, BUT ALSO FROM MY PERSONAL

                    OBSERVATION AND EXPERIENCE GOING TO PUBLIC SCHOOL, THERE'S TREMENDOUS

                    AMOUNT OF FOOD WASTE GOING ON, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE SCHOOL POLICY

                    ARE THOSE FOOD -- THEY HAVE TO DESTROY THE FOOD, DESTROY IT.  AND MANY

                    KIDS -- AS WE -- AS BODY LEGISLATURE, WE -- WE AGREE ON PROVIDING FREE

                    LUNCH AND FREE BREAKFAST TO ALL STUDENTS, WHICH I DO SUPPORT THAT.  BUT

                    SOME -- MOST KIDS DO NOT EAT THOSE SCHOOL LUNCHES, AND WHATEVER THE

                    REASON ARE, AND THAT'S ANOTHER SOURCE OF SCRAP FOOD THAT WE CAN COLLECT

                    INSTEAD OF COMPLETELY DESTROYED [SIC] BY -- BY THE SCHOOL POLICY.

                                 SO IN [SIC] THIS BILL I WILL SUPPORT THAT.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  READ THE LAST

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                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  A PARTY VOTE HAS

                    BEEN REQUESTED.

                                 MS. WALSH.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  THE

                    MINORITY WILL GENERALLY BE IN THE NEGATIVE ON THIS CHAPTER AMENDMENT.

                    BUT IF MEMBERS DO WISH TO VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE THEY MAY DO SO AT

                    THEIR DESKS.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER.  THE MAJORITY VOTE IS GENERALLY GONNA BE IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL

                    THAT WORKS IN THE FAVOR OF PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE AISLES, SO I'M HOPING

                    THAT PEOPLE WILL STAY ON LINE AND BE WITH US ON THIS ONE, AND THAT IS TO

                    VOTE YES.  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 THE CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. WALSH TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  SO, I

                    THINK THAT THE -- THE IDEA OF RECYCLING FOOD SCRAPS IS A GOOD ONE.  WE

                    KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WASTE.  BUT I THINK ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FORMER

                    SPEAKERS RAISED A VERY INTERESTING POINT ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS AND THE

                    WASTE THAT MAY BE GOING ON IN OUR SCHOOLS.  I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF

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                    THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WHETHER WE'RE

                    TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EV MANDATES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE --

                    WHERE A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE REQUIRING EITHER PRIVATE BUSINESS OR IN THAT

                    CASE, SCHOOLS, TO GO AHEAD OF OUR STATE AGENCIES.  AND I THINK IT WOULD

                    BE REALLY INTERESTING IF WE REALLY DID WANT TO TAKE A LEAD AS A STATE, TO

                    HAVE OUR STATE AGENCIES GO FIRST OR HAVE OUR SCHOOLS IN THIS CASE WITH

                    FOOD SCRAPS GO FIRST RATHER THAN PUTTING THIS ON PRIVATE BUSINESS AND

                    RESTAURANTS TO HAVE TO COMPLY INITIALLY.  SO I -- I JUST -- I -- I THINK THAT

                    THE OVERALL IDEA OF REDUCING WASTE IS A GOOD ONE, IT'S A LAUDABLE ONE.  I

                    JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS BILL QUITE -- AND THE PROGRAM THAT IT CREATES IS

                    QUITE RIGHT YET.

                                 SO FOR THAT REASON I, ALONG WITH MANY OF MY

                    COLLEAGUES, WILL BE IN THE NEGATIVE.  THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.  MS.

                    WALSH IN THE NEGATIVE.

                                 MR. YEGER TO EXPLAIN HIS VOTE.

                                 MR. YEGER:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  I

                    APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION ON THE BUTTON.  I -- I GENERALLY BELIEVE THAT

                    -- THAT THE GENTLEWOMAN WHO SPOKE HERETOFORE ABOUT THE MANDATES THAT

                    WE PUT ON PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT ON

                    OURSELVES, ON THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, IS AN INCREDIBLY GOOD POINT.

                    AND IT'S A BATTLE THAT I FACED CONSISTENTLY IN THE CITY COUNCIL WHERE I

                    CAME FROM.  WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS A VOTE TO DELAY IMPLEMENTATION OF

                    A LAW THAT WE MAY NOT LIKE, AND I'LL TAKE THAT ANY DAY THAT I CAN GET IT.

                    IF WE HAVE A BAD LAW AND WE GET A CHANCE TO MAYBE REVISIT THIS, I THINK

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                    WE SHOULD REVISIT IT IN THE FUTURE.  PUTTING MANDATES ON BUSINESSES

                    WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF GOVERNMENT TO BE WILLING TO PUT ITS MONEY

                    WHERE ITS MOUTH IS, I THINK IS BAD PRACTICE.  IT HURTS BUSINESSES, IT HURTS

                    THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AND THE COST IS ULTIMATELY BORNE BY US AS CONSUMERS

                    BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ADDED COST

                    THAT WE'RE IMPOSING ON BUSINESSES.  I WOULD VOTE NO IF IT WERE TO -- IF

                    THIS WAS A QUESTION TO IMPOSE THIS, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS THE

                    OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE IMPLEMENTATION AND I REALLY DO HOPE WE

                    HAVE A CHANCE IN THIS BODY TO REVISIT WHETHER THIS WAS A WISE THING TO

                    DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.

                                 SO ON THAT I VOTE AYE.  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  MR. YEGER IN THE

                    AFFIRMATIVE.

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE

                    THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 ON CONSENT, PAGE 7, RULES REPORT NO. 97, THE CLERK

                    WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A00429, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 97, JACKSON.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE REAL PROPERTY LAW, IN RELATION

                    TO NOTICE TO CERTAIN TENANTS OF A BED BUG INFESTATION IN RESIDENTIAL RENTAL

                    PREMISES.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    JACKSON, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

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                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 30TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 MS. WALSH TO EXPLAIN HER VOTE.

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  SO, THIS

                    CHAPTER AMENDMENT MAKES SEVERAL, I THINK, VERY IMPORTANT CHANGES TO

                    THE ORIGINAL BILL THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR WITH -- WITH QUITE A BIT OF

                    OPPOSITION, I -- WHICH I THINK REALLY DOES MAKE THE BILL BETTER.  FOR --

                    FOR ONE THING, THE -- THE NOTICE TO THE TENANTS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY

                    OF THE BEDBUG INFESTATION RATHER THAN ALL TENANTS IS PART OF THE CHAPTER,

                    AND I THINK THAT THAT MAKE SENSE.  SO IF THERE IS INFESTATION IN ONE

                    APARTMENT, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING TO THOSE LIVING ABOVE, BELOW AND

                    ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT APARTMENT RATHER THAN EVERYBODY IN WHAT COULD

                    BE A VERY LARGE BUILDING.  I THINK THAT THAT'S A -- A GOOD CHANGE.  AND I

                    THINK ALSO THE AMOUNT OF TIME GIVEN FOR THE NOTICE, MOVING FROM 24

                    HOURS TO 72 HOURS, IS ALSO A VERY POSITIVE CHANGE.

                                 SO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS CHAPTER AMENDMENT

                    WHICH I DO THINK IMPROVES THE -- THE BILL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR.

                    THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.  MS.

                    WALSH IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

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                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE

                    THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN

                    INTRODUCTION.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER, FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERRUPT OUR PROCEEDINGS

                    FOR THE PURPOSES OF INTRODUCING A GUEST WHO HAS JUST ENTERED OUR

                    CHAMBERS.  ON BEHALF OF OUR COLLEAGUE MR. MEEKS -- IN FACT, MOST OF

                    OUR COLLEAGUES ON THIS SIDE OF THE AISLE WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOU ALL THAT

                    ROBERT RICKS, THE FATHER OF ROBERT BROOKS, SR. [SIC] IS HERE TO VISIT WITH

                    US.  MR. RICKS IS THE FOUNDER OF THE MENTORING INSPIRING BOYS AND

                    GIRLS CLUB.  HE INTRODUCE YOUTH TO MARTIAL ARTS AND ARTS.  HE WORKS

                    WITH LIFT EVERY VOICE YOUTH CHOIRS, AND THROUGH MANY PERFORMANCES

                    AND WORKING ON LITERARY ISSUES IN EDUCATION ISSUES, AND HE'S BEEN A

                    VERY POSITIVE EFFECT IN THE COMMUNITY OF ROCHESTER.  MR. RICKS IS HERE

                    TODAY FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF HIS SON ROBERT BROOKS AT MARCY

                    CORRECTIONAL FACILITY.  HE HAS BEEN MEETING WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE ACROSS

                    -- IN OUR CAPITOL TODAY, MADAM SPEAKER.  HE'S LOOKING TO BRING

                    AWARENESS TO A MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE ARE NOT NEW TO IN THE STATE OF NEW

                    YORK WHERE PEOPLE WILL GO SOMEWHERE TO PAY FOR WHATEVER SOCIETY

                    THINKS THEY'VE DONE WRONG AND END UP DEAD.

                                 SO I WOULD ASK YOU AND THE REST OF OUR COLLEAGUES IN

                    THE CHAMBERS TO HONOR THE PRESENCE OF MR. BROOKS [SIC].  HE IS -- MR.

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                    RICKS, I'M SORRY.  HE'S ACTUALLY DOING WHAT EVERY OTHER PARENT WOULD

                    DO:  WORKING AND ADVOCATING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN

                    AGAIN.  SO PLEASE WELCOME HIM TO OUR CHAMBERS.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON BEHALF OF MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES, MR. MEEKS, THE

                    SPEAKER AND ALL THE MEMBERS, SIR, MR. RICKS, WE WELCOME YOU TO THE

                    CHAMBER, EXTEND THE PRIVILEGES OF THE FLOOR.  HOPE YOU ENJOY OUR

                    PROCEEDINGS TODAY, AND WE THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

                    THANK YOU.

                                 (APPLAUSE)

                                 ON CONSENT, PAGE 7, RULES REPORT NO. 98, THE CLERK

                    WILL READ.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A01098, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 98, HUNTER.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW AND THE

                    PUBLIC AUTHORITIES LAW, IN RELATION TO INCLUDING PROVIDING ONSITE CHILD

                    CARE SERVICES OR FACILITATING NEW CHILD CARE SERVICE BY A PROJECT INTO A

                    UNIFORM TAX EXEMPTION POLICY; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF

                    2024 AMENDING THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW AND THE PUBLIC AUTHORITIES

                    LAW RELATING TO INCLUDING PROVIDING ONSITE CHILD DAYCARE FACILITIES BY A

                    PROJECT INTO A UNIFORM TAX EXEMPTION POLICY, AS PROPOSED IN LEGISLATIVE

                    BILLS NUMBERS S.2498-A AND A.5248-A, IN RELATION TO THE EFFECTIVENESS

                    THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  READ THE LAST

                    SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                               FEBRUARY 12, 2025

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE

                    THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A01473, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 99, STIRPE.  AN ACT TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2024

                    AMENDING THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW RELATING TO INCLUDING LAKES IN

                    ADOPT-A-MUNICIPAL PARK, SHORELINE OR ROADWAY PROGRAMS, AS PROPOSED

                    IN LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S.4636 AND A.4563, IN RELATION TO FEES FOR

                    ACTIVITIES UNDERTAKEN PURSUANT TO A LAKE PROGRAM.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON A MOTION BY MR.

                    STIRPE, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.

                                 READ THE LAST SECTION.

                                 THE CLERK:  THIS ACT SHALL TAKE EFFECT ON THE 60TH

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THE CLERK WILL

                    RECORD THE VOTE.

                                 (THE CLERK RECORDED THE VOTE.)

                                 ARE THERE ANY OTHER VOTES?  THE CLERK WILL ANNOUNCE

                    THE RESULTS.

                                 (THE CLERK ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS.)

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                               FEBRUARY 12, 2025

                                 THE BILL IS PASSED.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY NO. A03923, RULES REPORT

                    NO. 100, KASSAY.  AN ACT TO AMEND THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW, IN

                    RELATION TO REMOVING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR OFFICIAL WEBSITES OF

                    SMALL MUNICIPALITIES; AND TO AMEND A CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF 2024

                    AMENDING THE GENERAL MUNICIPAL LAW RELATING TO REQUIRING

                    MUNICIPALITIES TO MAINTAIN MUNICIPAL WEBSITES, AS PROPOSED IN

                    LEGISLATIVE BILLS NUMBERS S.3353-A AND A.2852-A, IN RELATION TO THE

                    EFFECTIVENESS THEREOF.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON A MOTION BY MS.

                    KASSAY, THE SENATE BILL IS BEFORE THE HOUSE.  THE SENATE BILL IS

                    ADVANCED.  THIS BILL IS LAID ASIDE.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  MADAM SPEAKER, DO YOU

                    HAVE ANY FURTHER HOUSEKEEPING OR RESOLUTIONS?

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  WE DO HAVE A FEW

                    RESOLUTIONS.

                                 MS. CLARK, A RESOLUTION -- MS. CLARK ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 ONE SECOND, WE NEED TO READ THE RESOLUTION FIRST.


                                 THE CLERK:  ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 110, MS.

                    CLARK.

                                 LEGISLATIVE RESOLUTION COMMEMORATING THE 21ST

                    ANNUAL SUSAN B. ANTHONY DAY IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  MS. CLARK ON THE

                    RESOLUTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                               FEBRUARY 12, 2025

                                 MS. CLARK:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  I RISE ON

                    -- IT'S THE WEEK WHERE WE CELEBRATE SUSAN B. ANTHONY'S BIRTHDAY.  THIS

                    -- IT FALLS ON FEBRUARY 15TH, SO IT WILL BE SATURDAY THIS YEAR, BUT BACK

                    HOME IN ROCHESTER WE WILL BE CELEBRATING IT TONIGHT.  BUT FOR ME,

                    GETTING THE MOMENT -- GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMEMORATE WHO

                    SHE WAS, WHAT SHE DID AND WHAT SHE MEANS TO US IN ROCHESTER, IN

                    UPSTATE NEW YORK AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL SO

                    HONORED TO DO EVERY YEAR.  SHE IS -- SHE HERSELF REPRESENTS SO MUCH THAT

                    IS WHAT WE LOOK FOR NOW, STRENGTH AND RESILIENCY AGAINST MANY

                    OBSTACLES AND MANY OF THOSE WHO WANTED TO -- WANTED NOTHING TO DO

                    WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT WOMEN'S RIGHTS TO VOTE.  HER CONTRIBUTION

                    TO WHAT ULTIMATELY BECAME THE 19TH AMENDMENT IS WHAT WE CELEBRATE;

                    HER REFUSING TO BACK DOWN ON COMPROMISE IS WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW

                    AS WE ALL FIGHT TO HAVE AN INCLUSIVE GOVERNMENT THAT REPRESENTS

                    EVERYONE, THAT ENSURES THAT ALL VOICES ARE AT THE TABLE WHEN WE'RE

                    DECIDING HOW AS A STATE OR A COUNTRY WE WANT TO LIVE.  I CAN THINK OF NO

                    OTHER MOMENT IN TIME WHERE IT FEELS SO NEEDED TO CHANNEL THAT KIND OF

                    STRENGTH AND TO CHANNEL THAT KIND OF COMMITMENT.  AS A COUNTRY AND AS

                    A STATE, OUR DIVERSITY IS OUR BIGGEST STRENGTH.  IT'S WHAT MAKES US A

                    VIBRANT COUNTRY.  I'M SO EXCITED THAT HER LEGACY LIVES IN ROCHESTER, BUT

                    I'M ALSO EXCITED TO ALWAYS SHARE IT HERE ON THE FLOOR AS WE CONTINUE OUR

                    FIGHT IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 MS. WALSH ON THE RESOLUTION.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                               FEBRUARY 12, 2025

                                 MS. WALSH:  THANK YOU, MADAM SPEAKER.  I WANT

                    TO THANK THE -- THE SPONSOR OF THIS RESOLUTION FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD

                    AGAIN THIS YEAR.  I AM ALWAYS HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT SUSAN B. ANTHONY,

                    PARTLY BECAUSE HAVING GONE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER, MOUNT

                    HOPE CEMETERY, THAT'S RIGHT WHERE SHE RESTS.  SHE HAD AN AMAZING,

                    LONG AND INCREDIBLY PRODUCTIVE LIFE.  SHE PASSED AWAY AT 86 AND WAS

                    SINGLE FOR HER WHOLE LIFE, WHICH SHE ATTRIBUTES TO A LOT OF HER

                    PRODUCTIVITY.  SHE -- SHE WASN'T GOING TO BE A DRUDGE OR A DOLL, SHE WAS

                    GONNA BE HER OWN WOMAN AND SHE -- AND SHE TRULY WAS.

                                 I -- I WANTED TO SPEAK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT THE AMAZING

                    COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP THAT SHE HAD WITH ELIZABETH CADY STANTON.  I

                    MEAN, THEY -- OFTEN -- ELIZABETH CADY STANTON'S HUSBAND SAID THAT

                    ELIZABETH FORGED THE THUNDERBOLTS AND SUSAN B. ANTHONY THREW THEM.

                    THAT -- THAT'S AN AMAZING RELATIONSHIP TO HAVE WITH ANYBODY, AND THEY

                    HAD JUST SUCH A LONG FRIENDSHIP AND -- WHERE SUSAN B. ANTHONY REALLY

                    BECAME LIKE ANOTHER MEMBER OF ELIZABETH CADY STANTON'S FAMILY;

                    WATCHED HER KIDS, HELPED -- HELPED TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS SO THAT

                    ELIZABETH COULD WRITE.  AND I THINK IT -- IT'S JUST REALLY A REAL LESSON

                    THAT, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER WE CAN ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH AND THAT

                    IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE PARTNERS AS WE IDENTIFY THINGS THAT NEED TO

                    CHANGE AND THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.  I THINK

                    THAT SHE ALSO REALLY PROVED THAT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE HAS A GREAT VALUE,

                    AND THAT ALTHOUGH THE ROAD CAN SOMETIMES BE VERY LONG TO GET WHAT WE

                    WANT, THAT IF WE JUST KIND OF KEEP PLUGGING AND KEEP WORKING AND

                    WORKING WE CAN GET THERE.  AND I -- I JUST THINK THAT SHE WAS AN

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                               FEBRUARY 12, 2025

                    AMAZING, REMARKABLE WOMAN -- AND I WOULD MENTION, A REPUBLICAN

                    WOMAN -- AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS RESOLUTION.

                                 THANK YOU.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  MRS. PEOPLES-

                    STOKES ON THE RESOLUTION.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  THANK YOU, MADAM

                    SPEAKER.  I, TOO, WANT TO RISE AND CONGRATULATE AND THANK THE SPONSOR

                    FOR AGAIN PUTTING THIS RESOLUTION IN.  SOMETIMES WE FORGET HOW MANY

                    SHOULDERS WE STAND ON WHEN WE LAND WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN OUR

                    CAREERS.  IT WAS PEOPLE LIKE THIS YOUNG LADY WHO FOUGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS

                    TO DO THESE THINGS, AND SO NO ONE COULD EVER -- SHOULD EVER FORGET THAT.

                    AS A PERSON WHO IS NOW SERVING ON THE SMITHSONIAN'S WOMEN'S

                    HISTORY MUSEUM THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, MUCH OF WHAT WE TALK

                    ABOUT IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AROUND THE TABLE IS HOW WOMEN'S

                    HISTORY OFTEN DISAPPEARS BECAUSE IT NEVER SHOWS UP.  IT'S LIKE WRITTEN IN

                    DISAPPEARING INK.  SO AS LONG AS WE CAN DO THESE THINGS IN OUR

                    CHAMBER AND HONOR WOMEN LIKE THIS, HER HISTORY WILL NEVER DISAPPEAR

                    AND THE INK WILL NEVER GO AWAY THAT SHE LAID OUT.

                                 SO, AGAIN, THANKS TO THE SPONSOR AND THANK YOU FOR THE

                    LIFE OF THIS AMAZING WOMAN.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  THANK YOU.

                                 ON THE RESOLUTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING

                    AYE; OPPOSED, NO.  THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.

                                 WE DO HAVE A NUMBER -- EXCUSE ME, ONE OTHER

                    RESOLUTION BEFORE THE HOUSE.

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                    NYS ASSEMBLY                                               FEBRUARY 12, 2025

                                 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE; OPPOSED, NO.

                    THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.


                                 (WHEREUPON, ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION NO. 111 WAS

                    UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.)

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES.

                                 MRS. PEOPLES-STOKES:  I NOW MOVE THAT THE

                    ASSEMBLY STAND ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE 13TH -- THAT'S A

                    LEGISLATIVE DAY, AND THAT'S TOMORROW -- AND THAT WE WILL RECONVENE AT

                    2:00 P.M. ON FEBRUARY 24TH --  I SHOULD REPEAT THAT -- THAT WE WILL

                    RECONVENE AT 2:00 P.M. ON FEBRUARY 24TH, MONDAY BEING A SESSION

                    DAY.

                                 ACTING SPEAKER HUNTER:  ON MRS. PEOPLES-

                    STOKES' MOTION, THE HOUSE STANDS ADJOURNED.

                                 (WHEREUPON, AT 11:46 A.M., THE HOUSE STOOD

                    ADJOURNED UNTIL THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, THAT BEING A LEGISLATIVE DAY,

                    AND TO RECONVENE ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH AT 2:00 P.M., THAT BEING A

                    SESSION DAY.)

















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